Entering Russia on visa-exempt St Petersburg ferry: can I leave the city?
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If I enter Russia by taking a no-visa-needed Helsinki-St Petersburg ferry, can I take a day trip to Moscow, or do I have to stay in St Petersburg for my entire stay?
legal russia visa-free-entry moscow saint-petersburg
asked Apr 9 '16 at 11:19
davidvcdavidvc
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If I enter Russia by taking a no-visa-needed Helsinki-St Petersburg ferry, can I take a day trip to Moscow, or do I have to stay in St Petersburg for my entire stay?
legal russia visa-free-entry moscow saint-petersburg
asked Apr 9 '16 at 11:19
davidvcdavidvc
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I can't find documentation to prove it, but having been there myself on a cruise, I'm quite certain you'll not be allowed to leave the city. You'll also need to book a transfer into the city from the ferry for the visa to be valid, and if you're on a ferry, not a cruise, to have pre-booked accommodation in St. Petersburg. A train trip to Moscow without a proper visa could land you in jail.
– Claus Jørgensen
Apr 9 '16 at 12:55
Those day excursions to Moscow from Peter are uniformly demanding in terms of stamina and endurance. Take care that you're well rested and fit.
– Gayot Fow
Apr 9 '16 at 16:35
Two nearly-four-hour train rides does seem like it'd make for a long day, but I'd be willing to tough it out if it's allowed - not sure when I'll be in Russia next!
– davidvc
Apr 9 '16 at 17:00
Related: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/26909/…
– VMAtm
Apr 17 '17 at 19:33
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If I enter Russia by taking a no-visa-needed Helsinki-St Petersburg ferry, can I take a day trip to Moscow, or do I have to stay in St Petersburg for my entire stay?
legal russia visa-free-entry moscow saint-petersburg
asked Apr 9 '16 at 11:19
davidvcdavidvc
4,75422157
If I enter Russia by taking a no-visa-needed Helsinki-St Petersburg ferry, can I take a day trip to Moscow, or do I have to stay in St Petersburg for my entire stay?
legal russia visa-free-entry moscow saint-petersburg
legal russia visa-free-entry moscow saint-petersburg
asked Apr 9 '16 at 11:19
davidvcdavidvc
4,75422157
asked Apr 9 '16 at 11:19
davidvcdavidvc
4,75422157
asked Apr 9 '16 at 11:19
davidvcdavidvc
4,75422157
asked Apr 9 '16 at 11:19
davidvcdavidvc
4,75422157
asked Apr 9 '16 at 11:19
davidvcdavidvc
4,75422157
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I can't find documentation to prove it, but having been there myself on a cruise, I'm quite certain you'll not be allowed to leave the city. You'll also need to book a transfer into the city from the ferry for the visa to be valid, and if you're on a ferry, not a cruise, to have pre-booked accommodation in St. Petersburg. A train trip to Moscow without a proper visa could land you in jail.
– Claus Jørgensen
Apr 9 '16 at 12:55
Those day excursions to Moscow from Peter are uniformly demanding in terms of stamina and endurance. Take care that you're well rested and fit.
– Gayot Fow
Apr 9 '16 at 16:35
Two nearly-four-hour train rides does seem like it'd make for a long day, but I'd be willing to tough it out if it's allowed - not sure when I'll be in Russia next!
– davidvc
Apr 9 '16 at 17:00
Related: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/26909/…
– VMAtm
Apr 17 '17 at 19:33
add a comment |
I can't find documentation to prove it, but having been there myself on a cruise, I'm quite certain you'll not be allowed to leave the city. You'll also need to book a transfer into the city from the ferry for the visa to be valid, and if you're on a ferry, not a cruise, to have pre-booked accommodation in St. Petersburg. A train trip to Moscow without a proper visa could land you in jail.
– Claus Jørgensen
Apr 9 '16 at 12:55
Those day excursions to Moscow from Peter are uniformly demanding in terms of stamina and endurance. Take care that you're well rested and fit.
– Gayot Fow
Apr 9 '16 at 16:35
Two nearly-four-hour train rides does seem like it'd make for a long day, but I'd be willing to tough it out if it's allowed - not sure when I'll be in Russia next!
– davidvc
Apr 9 '16 at 17:00
Related: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/26909/…
– VMAtm
Apr 17 '17 at 19:33
I can't find documentation to prove it, but having been there myself on a cruise, I'm quite certain you'll not be allowed to leave the city. You'll also need to book a transfer into the city from the ferry for the visa to be valid, and if you're on a ferry, not a cruise, to have pre-booked accommodation in St. Petersburg. A train trip to Moscow without a proper visa could land you in jail.
– Claus Jørgensen
Apr 9 '16 at 12:55
I can't find documentation to prove it, but having been there myself on a cruise, I'm quite certain you'll not be allowed to leave the city. You'll also need to book a transfer into the city from the ferry for the visa to be valid, and if you're on a ferry, not a cruise, to have pre-booked accommodation in St. Petersburg. A train trip to Moscow without a proper visa could land you in jail.
– Claus Jørgensen
Apr 9 '16 at 12:55
Those day excursions to Moscow from Peter are uniformly demanding in terms of stamina and endurance. Take care that you're well rested and fit.
– Gayot Fow
Apr 9 '16 at 16:35
Those day excursions to Moscow from Peter are uniformly demanding in terms of stamina and endurance. Take care that you're well rested and fit.
– Gayot Fow
Apr 9 '16 at 16:35
Two nearly-four-hour train rides does seem like it'd make for a long day, but I'd be willing to tough it out if it's allowed - not sure when I'll be in Russia next!
– davidvc
Apr 9 '16 at 17:00
Two nearly-four-hour train rides does seem like it'd make for a long day, but I'd be willing to tough it out if it's allowed - not sure when I'll be in Russia next!
– davidvc
Apr 9 '16 at 17:00
Related: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/26909/…
– VMAtm
Apr 17 '17 at 19:33
Related: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/26909/…
– VMAtm
Apr 17 '17 at 19:33
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Here's the actual legal basis for visa-free travel: http://base.garant.ru/195505 . It says you can stay for 72 hours, have to leave by the same port where you entered, and most importantly (point #6) it says you may only be located on the territory declared in the "official tourist program" filed by your cruise line with the Russian government.
There may be some "official tourist programs" that include other cities like Moscow (see e.g. the article at http://www.rostourunion.ru/ob_rst/novosti/news_archive/pervyyi_bezvizovyyi_parom.html )
Some articles online imply that this requirement is just a formality. For example, this article ( http://www.myestonia.ru/publ/72_chasa_bezvizovogo_schastja/13-1-0-572 ) implies you can go to other cities as long as you still pay for your St. Petersburg "official" hotel. However, the legality of this is very questionable. I would strongly recommend getting an actual Russian visa if you want to do any real exploring, especially given the current tense political situation.
answered Apr 9 '16 at 14:48
Eugene OEugene O
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Thanks. None of the tours offered on the St Peter Line website (at least on my travel dates) go to Moscow, so I guess I'm staying in St Petersburg.
– davidvc
Apr 10 '16 at 11:54
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Here's the actual legal basis for visa-free travel: http://base.garant.ru/195505 . It says you can stay for 72 hours, have to leave by the same port where you entered, and most importantly (point #6) it says you may only be located on the territory declared in the "official tourist program" filed by your cruise line with the Russian government.
There may be some "official tourist programs" that include other cities like Moscow (see e.g. the article at http://www.rostourunion.ru/ob_rst/novosti/news_archive/pervyyi_bezvizovyyi_parom.html )
Some articles online imply that this requirement is just a formality. For example, this article ( http://www.myestonia.ru/publ/72_chasa_bezvizovogo_schastja/13-1-0-572 ) implies you can go to other cities as long as you still pay for your St. Petersburg "official" hotel. However, the legality of this is very questionable. I would strongly recommend getting an actual Russian visa if you want to do any real exploring, especially given the current tense political situation.
answered Apr 9 '16 at 14:48
Eugene OEugene O
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Thanks. None of the tours offered on the St Peter Line website (at least on my travel dates) go to Moscow, so I guess I'm staying in St Petersburg.
– davidvc
Apr 10 '16 at 11:54
add a comment |
Here's the actual legal basis for visa-free travel: http://base.garant.ru/195505 . It says you can stay for 72 hours, have to leave by the same port where you entered, and most importantly (point #6) it says you may only be located on the territory declared in the "official tourist program" filed by your cruise line with the Russian government.
There may be some "official tourist programs" that include other cities like Moscow (see e.g. the article at http://www.rostourunion.ru/ob_rst/novosti/news_archive/pervyyi_bezvizovyyi_parom.html )
Some articles online imply that this requirement is just a formality. For example, this article ( http://www.myestonia.ru/publ/72_chasa_bezvizovogo_schastja/13-1-0-572 ) implies you can go to other cities as long as you still pay for your St. Petersburg "official" hotel. However, the legality of this is very questionable. I would strongly recommend getting an actual Russian visa if you want to do any real exploring, especially given the current tense political situation.
answered Apr 9 '16 at 14:48
Eugene OEugene O
8,17123352
Thanks. None of the tours offered on the St Peter Line website (at least on my travel dates) go to Moscow, so I guess I'm staying in St Petersburg.
– davidvc
Apr 10 '16 at 11:54
add a comment |
Here's the actual legal basis for visa-free travel: http://base.garant.ru/195505 . It says you can stay for 72 hours, have to leave by the same port where you entered, and most importantly (point #6) it says you may only be located on the territory declared in the "official tourist program" filed by your cruise line with the Russian government.
There may be some "official tourist programs" that include other cities like Moscow (see e.g. the article at http://www.rostourunion.ru/ob_rst/novosti/news_archive/pervyyi_bezvizovyyi_parom.html )
Some articles online imply that this requirement is just a formality. For example, this article ( http://www.myestonia.ru/publ/72_chasa_bezvizovogo_schastja/13-1-0-572 ) implies you can go to other cities as long as you still pay for your St. Petersburg "official" hotel. However, the legality of this is very questionable. I would strongly recommend getting an actual Russian visa if you want to do any real exploring, especially given the current tense political situation.
answered Apr 9 '16 at 14:48
Eugene OEugene O
8,17123352
Here's the actual legal basis for visa-free travel: http://base.garant.ru/195505 . It says you can stay for 72 hours, have to leave by the same port where you entered, and most importantly (point #6) it says you may only be located on the territory declared in the "official tourist program" filed by your cruise line with the Russian government.
There may be some "official tourist programs" that include other cities like Moscow (see e.g. the article at http://www.rostourunion.ru/ob_rst/novosti/news_archive/pervyyi_bezvizovyyi_parom.html )
Some articles online imply that this requirement is just a formality. For example, this article ( http://www.myestonia.ru/publ/72_chasa_bezvizovogo_schastja/13-1-0-572 ) implies you can go to other cities as long as you still pay for your St. Petersburg "official" hotel. However, the legality of this is very questionable. I would strongly recommend getting an actual Russian visa if you want to do any real exploring, especially given the current tense political situation.
answered Apr 9 '16 at 14:48
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8,17123352
answered Apr 9 '16 at 14:48
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answered Apr 9 '16 at 14:48
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Thanks. None of the tours offered on the St Peter Line website (at least on my travel dates) go to Moscow, so I guess I'm staying in St Petersburg.
– davidvc
Apr 10 '16 at 11:54
add a comment |
Thanks. None of the tours offered on the St Peter Line website (at least on my travel dates) go to Moscow, so I guess I'm staying in St Petersburg.
– davidvc
Apr 10 '16 at 11:54
Thanks. None of the tours offered on the St Peter Line website (at least on my travel dates) go to Moscow, so I guess I'm staying in St Petersburg.
– davidvc
Apr 10 '16 at 11:54
Thanks. None of the tours offered on the St Peter Line website (at least on my travel dates) go to Moscow, so I guess I'm staying in St Petersburg.
– davidvc
Apr 10 '16 at 11:54
add a comment |
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I can't find documentation to prove it, but having been there myself on a cruise, I'm quite certain you'll not be allowed to leave the city. You'll also need to book a transfer into the city from the ferry for the visa to be valid, and if you're on a ferry, not a cruise, to have pre-booked accommodation in St. Petersburg. A train trip to Moscow without a proper visa could land you in jail.
– Claus Jørgensen
Apr 9 '16 at 12:55
Those day excursions to Moscow from Peter are uniformly demanding in terms of stamina and endurance. Take care that you're well rested and fit.
– Gayot Fow
Apr 9 '16 at 16:35
Two nearly-four-hour train rides does seem like it'd make for a long day, but I'd be willing to tough it out if it's allowed - not sure when I'll be in Russia next!
– davidvc
Apr 9 '16 at 17:00
Related: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/26909/…
– VMAtm
Apr 17 '17 at 19:33