90 day Schengen rule when entering with non-European passport, but having a Schengen passport



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If I entered the Schengen area with a non-European passport. But I also posses a Schengen passport. Will staying over 90 days cause any troubles?



I have spoken with the migration department of the airport and they told me it's ok and that I have the right to stay over 90 days without exiting since I am Schengen citizen. But this time I would have to use the European passport to exit after the 90 days.



The question is: will my other passport having only an entry stamp but no exit cause me problems later on, if I am travelling without my European passport?



Both coming to Europe but specially visiting non-European countries: will non-European countries be paying attention that this passport has only an entry stamp to Europe but no exit? If they do notice will it suffice to explain it, or will I always have to carry both passports to prove that I was allowed to exit Schengen without a stamp.



I could always just do a same day trip to the UK to get the exit stamp if this means avoiding having troubles using my other passport later on. But I would rather avoid waisting money and time if not really necessary










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    You are asking two loosely related questions here. It is better to separate them.

    – Howdedo
    Apr 8 '16 at 17:00






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    Possible duplicate of I have two passports/nationalities. How do I use them when I travel?

    – blackbird
    Apr 8 '16 at 17:08






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    It's not a duplicate. This OP is asking if he will have problems because the entry/exit stamps in his non-EU passport will not be balanced. The canonical question is about which passport to present to the Immigration Officer.

    – Gayot Fow
    Apr 8 '16 at 19:33












  • @HenningMakholm This is a great answer, I suggest promoting it to one.

    – Gayot Fow
    Apr 9 '16 at 17:14


















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If I entered the Schengen area with a non-European passport. But I also posses a Schengen passport. Will staying over 90 days cause any troubles?



I have spoken with the migration department of the airport and they told me it's ok and that I have the right to stay over 90 days without exiting since I am Schengen citizen. But this time I would have to use the European passport to exit after the 90 days.



The question is: will my other passport having only an entry stamp but no exit cause me problems later on, if I am travelling without my European passport?



Both coming to Europe but specially visiting non-European countries: will non-European countries be paying attention that this passport has only an entry stamp to Europe but no exit? If they do notice will it suffice to explain it, or will I always have to carry both passports to prove that I was allowed to exit Schengen without a stamp.



I could always just do a same day trip to the UK to get the exit stamp if this means avoiding having troubles using my other passport later on. But I would rather avoid waisting money and time if not really necessary










share|improve this question



















  • 2





    You are asking two loosely related questions here. It is better to separate them.

    – Howdedo
    Apr 8 '16 at 17:00






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of I have two passports/nationalities. How do I use them when I travel?

    – blackbird
    Apr 8 '16 at 17:08






  • 2





    It's not a duplicate. This OP is asking if he will have problems because the entry/exit stamps in his non-EU passport will not be balanced. The canonical question is about which passport to present to the Immigration Officer.

    – Gayot Fow
    Apr 8 '16 at 19:33












  • @HenningMakholm This is a great answer, I suggest promoting it to one.

    – Gayot Fow
    Apr 9 '16 at 17:14














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5








If I entered the Schengen area with a non-European passport. But I also posses a Schengen passport. Will staying over 90 days cause any troubles?



I have spoken with the migration department of the airport and they told me it's ok and that I have the right to stay over 90 days without exiting since I am Schengen citizen. But this time I would have to use the European passport to exit after the 90 days.



The question is: will my other passport having only an entry stamp but no exit cause me problems later on, if I am travelling without my European passport?



Both coming to Europe but specially visiting non-European countries: will non-European countries be paying attention that this passport has only an entry stamp to Europe but no exit? If they do notice will it suffice to explain it, or will I always have to carry both passports to prove that I was allowed to exit Schengen without a stamp.



I could always just do a same day trip to the UK to get the exit stamp if this means avoiding having troubles using my other passport later on. But I would rather avoid waisting money and time if not really necessary










share|improve this question
















If I entered the Schengen area with a non-European passport. But I also posses a Schengen passport. Will staying over 90 days cause any troubles?



I have spoken with the migration department of the airport and they told me it's ok and that I have the right to stay over 90 days without exiting since I am Schengen citizen. But this time I would have to use the European passport to exit after the 90 days.



The question is: will my other passport having only an entry stamp but no exit cause me problems later on, if I am travelling without my European passport?



Both coming to Europe but specially visiting non-European countries: will non-European countries be paying attention that this passport has only an entry stamp to Europe but no exit? If they do notice will it suffice to explain it, or will I always have to carry both passports to prove that I was allowed to exit Schengen without a stamp.



I could always just do a same day trip to the UK to get the exit stamp if this means avoiding having troubles using my other passport later on. But I would rather avoid waisting money and time if not really necessary







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  • 2





    You are asking two loosely related questions here. It is better to separate them.

    – Howdedo
    Apr 8 '16 at 17:00






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of I have two passports/nationalities. How do I use them when I travel?

    – blackbird
    Apr 8 '16 at 17:08






  • 2





    It's not a duplicate. This OP is asking if he will have problems because the entry/exit stamps in his non-EU passport will not be balanced. The canonical question is about which passport to present to the Immigration Officer.

    – Gayot Fow
    Apr 8 '16 at 19:33












  • @HenningMakholm This is a great answer, I suggest promoting it to one.

    – Gayot Fow
    Apr 9 '16 at 17:14













  • 2





    You are asking two loosely related questions here. It is better to separate them.

    – Howdedo
    Apr 8 '16 at 17:00






  • 1





    Possible duplicate of I have two passports/nationalities. How do I use them when I travel?

    – blackbird
    Apr 8 '16 at 17:08






  • 2





    It's not a duplicate. This OP is asking if he will have problems because the entry/exit stamps in his non-EU passport will not be balanced. The canonical question is about which passport to present to the Immigration Officer.

    – Gayot Fow
    Apr 8 '16 at 19:33












  • @HenningMakholm This is a great answer, I suggest promoting it to one.

    – Gayot Fow
    Apr 9 '16 at 17:14








2




2





You are asking two loosely related questions here. It is better to separate them.

– Howdedo
Apr 8 '16 at 17:00





You are asking two loosely related questions here. It is better to separate them.

– Howdedo
Apr 8 '16 at 17:00




1




1





Possible duplicate of I have two passports/nationalities. How do I use them when I travel?

– blackbird
Apr 8 '16 at 17:08





Possible duplicate of I have two passports/nationalities. How do I use them when I travel?

– blackbird
Apr 8 '16 at 17:08




2




2





It's not a duplicate. This OP is asking if he will have problems because the entry/exit stamps in his non-EU passport will not be balanced. The canonical question is about which passport to present to the Immigration Officer.

– Gayot Fow
Apr 8 '16 at 19:33






It's not a duplicate. This OP is asking if he will have problems because the entry/exit stamps in his non-EU passport will not be balanced. The canonical question is about which passport to present to the Immigration Officer.

– Gayot Fow
Apr 8 '16 at 19:33














@HenningMakholm This is a great answer, I suggest promoting it to one.

– Gayot Fow
Apr 9 '16 at 17:14






@HenningMakholm This is a great answer, I suggest promoting it to one.

– Gayot Fow
Apr 9 '16 at 17:14











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In general, border guards in third countries have no business trying to determine based on your passport if you have complied with the Schengen rules in earlier visits. Passports don't consistently contain enough information for them to do that -- for example, non-EEA nationals with residence permits in a Schengen country will routinely have widely separated Schengen entry and exit stamps in their passport, and I haven't heard about anyone needing to carry around their long-expired residence permits just for the purpose of satisfy third-country border guards' curiosity.



So in general you probably don't need to worry about entering non-EEA countries.



On the other hand, if you leave the Schengen area without bringing your EEA passport, you can probably expect some trouble at the border coming back after your trip, since it will then look like you're returning shortly after having spent a long time inside Schengen, which will raise a something of a suspicion that you're intending to stay inside for such a long time again (not to mention that you won't have any balance on your 90/180 day clock). Without any documents to prove that you're entitled to do that, getting admitted will be problematic.



Most probably those problems can be resolved eventually -- if you claim to be an EEA citizen you shouldn't be sent back against your will, but will instead be detained while the authorities try to check out your story. But there's still a large chance that your day will be ruined completely along the way, and isn't it much easier simply to bring the EEA passport with you from the beginning?



(In practical terms a missing exit stamp will probably raise more eyebrows than a late one, since a late one implies that someone has already considered whether your stay was legal or not -- so what I would do in your situation would be to use the "non-EEA passports" lane the next time you leave Schengen, show both passports to the border guard and ask nicely to have an exit stamp in the non-EEA one so it matches up with the entry stamp already there).






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  • Why would one need to use the non-EEA lane? It's also possible to show both passports at the EEA lane and ask the border guard to stamp the non-EEA one. The border guard's reaction should not be any different in one lane or the other.

    – phoog
    Apr 11 '16 at 21:47






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    @phoog: Mostly because I'm not sure the guard in the EEA lane would even have an exit stamp ready -- since EEA passports are not supposed to be stamped at all.

    – Henning Makholm
    Apr 11 '16 at 22:11











  • There are circumstances under which non-EEA passport holders can use the EEA lanes (family members, for example). These people can require passport stamps (family members without an 2004/38/EC residence permit, for example). I can speak from experience with such examples that the inspectors in the EEA lanes do have stamps.

    – phoog
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Whenever you travel without your Schengen passport, you run the risk of being treated as someone who does not possess the right of free movement within the European union (and non-EU Schengen countries).



Nobody can predict what trouble might arise. You could be "banned" from the Schengen area if you cannot prove your Schengen nationality, though the ban would be meaningless as soon as you produce documents to prove that you are in fact a citizen of a Schengen country.



To enjoy your right of free movement, you must be able to convince the authorities that you possess the nationality of your Schengen country. The only reliable way to do that is with a passport or ID card from that country.



In other words, it is not a good idea to travel around Europe without your European passport. Whether a simple unsubstantiated "explanation" will suffice is unknowable; it depends on the official to whom you are talking, and perhaps on what kind of day the official has been having. It's pretty likely that such an official will not be pleased with having to verify your claim of European citizenship without proper documentation.






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    The original poster seems to be concerned about the reaction of third countries to the "incomplete paper trail" on his non-EU passport, e.g. when he submits it for a visa application.When a country looks for previous travel history, they might look for entry and exist stamps.

    – o.m.
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In general, border guards in third countries have no business trying to determine based on your passport if you have complied with the Schengen rules in earlier visits. Passports don't consistently contain enough information for them to do that -- for example, non-EEA nationals with residence permits in a Schengen country will routinely have widely separated Schengen entry and exit stamps in their passport, and I haven't heard about anyone needing to carry around their long-expired residence permits just for the purpose of satisfy third-country border guards' curiosity.



So in general you probably don't need to worry about entering non-EEA countries.



On the other hand, if you leave the Schengen area without bringing your EEA passport, you can probably expect some trouble at the border coming back after your trip, since it will then look like you're returning shortly after having spent a long time inside Schengen, which will raise a something of a suspicion that you're intending to stay inside for such a long time again (not to mention that you won't have any balance on your 90/180 day clock). Without any documents to prove that you're entitled to do that, getting admitted will be problematic.



Most probably those problems can be resolved eventually -- if you claim to be an EEA citizen you shouldn't be sent back against your will, but will instead be detained while the authorities try to check out your story. But there's still a large chance that your day will be ruined completely along the way, and isn't it much easier simply to bring the EEA passport with you from the beginning?



(In practical terms a missing exit stamp will probably raise more eyebrows than a late one, since a late one implies that someone has already considered whether your stay was legal or not -- so what I would do in your situation would be to use the "non-EEA passports" lane the next time you leave Schengen, show both passports to the border guard and ask nicely to have an exit stamp in the non-EEA one so it matches up with the entry stamp already there).






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  • Why would one need to use the non-EEA lane? It's also possible to show both passports at the EEA lane and ask the border guard to stamp the non-EEA one. The border guard's reaction should not be any different in one lane or the other.

    – phoog
    Apr 11 '16 at 21:47






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    @phoog: Mostly because I'm not sure the guard in the EEA lane would even have an exit stamp ready -- since EEA passports are not supposed to be stamped at all.

    – Henning Makholm
    Apr 11 '16 at 22:11











  • There are circumstances under which non-EEA passport holders can use the EEA lanes (family members, for example). These people can require passport stamps (family members without an 2004/38/EC residence permit, for example). I can speak from experience with such examples that the inspectors in the EEA lanes do have stamps.

    – phoog
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In general, border guards in third countries have no business trying to determine based on your passport if you have complied with the Schengen rules in earlier visits. Passports don't consistently contain enough information for them to do that -- for example, non-EEA nationals with residence permits in a Schengen country will routinely have widely separated Schengen entry and exit stamps in their passport, and I haven't heard about anyone needing to carry around their long-expired residence permits just for the purpose of satisfy third-country border guards' curiosity.



So in general you probably don't need to worry about entering non-EEA countries.



On the other hand, if you leave the Schengen area without bringing your EEA passport, you can probably expect some trouble at the border coming back after your trip, since it will then look like you're returning shortly after having spent a long time inside Schengen, which will raise a something of a suspicion that you're intending to stay inside for such a long time again (not to mention that you won't have any balance on your 90/180 day clock). Without any documents to prove that you're entitled to do that, getting admitted will be problematic.



Most probably those problems can be resolved eventually -- if you claim to be an EEA citizen you shouldn't be sent back against your will, but will instead be detained while the authorities try to check out your story. But there's still a large chance that your day will be ruined completely along the way, and isn't it much easier simply to bring the EEA passport with you from the beginning?



(In practical terms a missing exit stamp will probably raise more eyebrows than a late one, since a late one implies that someone has already considered whether your stay was legal or not -- so what I would do in your situation would be to use the "non-EEA passports" lane the next time you leave Schengen, show both passports to the border guard and ask nicely to have an exit stamp in the non-EEA one so it matches up with the entry stamp already there).






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  • Why would one need to use the non-EEA lane? It's also possible to show both passports at the EEA lane and ask the border guard to stamp the non-EEA one. The border guard's reaction should not be any different in one lane or the other.

    – phoog
    Apr 11 '16 at 21:47






  • 1





    @phoog: Mostly because I'm not sure the guard in the EEA lane would even have an exit stamp ready -- since EEA passports are not supposed to be stamped at all.

    – Henning Makholm
    Apr 11 '16 at 22:11











  • There are circumstances under which non-EEA passport holders can use the EEA lanes (family members, for example). These people can require passport stamps (family members without an 2004/38/EC residence permit, for example). I can speak from experience with such examples that the inspectors in the EEA lanes do have stamps.

    – phoog
    Apr 12 '16 at 23:12













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In general, border guards in third countries have no business trying to determine based on your passport if you have complied with the Schengen rules in earlier visits. Passports don't consistently contain enough information for them to do that -- for example, non-EEA nationals with residence permits in a Schengen country will routinely have widely separated Schengen entry and exit stamps in their passport, and I haven't heard about anyone needing to carry around their long-expired residence permits just for the purpose of satisfy third-country border guards' curiosity.



So in general you probably don't need to worry about entering non-EEA countries.



On the other hand, if you leave the Schengen area without bringing your EEA passport, you can probably expect some trouble at the border coming back after your trip, since it will then look like you're returning shortly after having spent a long time inside Schengen, which will raise a something of a suspicion that you're intending to stay inside for such a long time again (not to mention that you won't have any balance on your 90/180 day clock). Without any documents to prove that you're entitled to do that, getting admitted will be problematic.



Most probably those problems can be resolved eventually -- if you claim to be an EEA citizen you shouldn't be sent back against your will, but will instead be detained while the authorities try to check out your story. But there's still a large chance that your day will be ruined completely along the way, and isn't it much easier simply to bring the EEA passport with you from the beginning?



(In practical terms a missing exit stamp will probably raise more eyebrows than a late one, since a late one implies that someone has already considered whether your stay was legal or not -- so what I would do in your situation would be to use the "non-EEA passports" lane the next time you leave Schengen, show both passports to the border guard and ask nicely to have an exit stamp in the non-EEA one so it matches up with the entry stamp already there).






share|improve this answer













In general, border guards in third countries have no business trying to determine based on your passport if you have complied with the Schengen rules in earlier visits. Passports don't consistently contain enough information for them to do that -- for example, non-EEA nationals with residence permits in a Schengen country will routinely have widely separated Schengen entry and exit stamps in their passport, and I haven't heard about anyone needing to carry around their long-expired residence permits just for the purpose of satisfy third-country border guards' curiosity.



So in general you probably don't need to worry about entering non-EEA countries.



On the other hand, if you leave the Schengen area without bringing your EEA passport, you can probably expect some trouble at the border coming back after your trip, since it will then look like you're returning shortly after having spent a long time inside Schengen, which will raise a something of a suspicion that you're intending to stay inside for such a long time again (not to mention that you won't have any balance on your 90/180 day clock). Without any documents to prove that you're entitled to do that, getting admitted will be problematic.



Most probably those problems can be resolved eventually -- if you claim to be an EEA citizen you shouldn't be sent back against your will, but will instead be detained while the authorities try to check out your story. But there's still a large chance that your day will be ruined completely along the way, and isn't it much easier simply to bring the EEA passport with you from the beginning?



(In practical terms a missing exit stamp will probably raise more eyebrows than a late one, since a late one implies that someone has already considered whether your stay was legal or not -- so what I would do in your situation would be to use the "non-EEA passports" lane the next time you leave Schengen, show both passports to the border guard and ask nicely to have an exit stamp in the non-EEA one so it matches up with the entry stamp already there).







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  • Why would one need to use the non-EEA lane? It's also possible to show both passports at the EEA lane and ask the border guard to stamp the non-EEA one. The border guard's reaction should not be any different in one lane or the other.

    – phoog
    Apr 11 '16 at 21:47






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    @phoog: Mostly because I'm not sure the guard in the EEA lane would even have an exit stamp ready -- since EEA passports are not supposed to be stamped at all.

    – Henning Makholm
    Apr 11 '16 at 22:11











  • There are circumstances under which non-EEA passport holders can use the EEA lanes (family members, for example). These people can require passport stamps (family members without an 2004/38/EC residence permit, for example). I can speak from experience with such examples that the inspectors in the EEA lanes do have stamps.

    – phoog
    Apr 12 '16 at 23:12

















  • Why would one need to use the non-EEA lane? It's also possible to show both passports at the EEA lane and ask the border guard to stamp the non-EEA one. The border guard's reaction should not be any different in one lane or the other.

    – phoog
    Apr 11 '16 at 21:47






  • 1





    @phoog: Mostly because I'm not sure the guard in the EEA lane would even have an exit stamp ready -- since EEA passports are not supposed to be stamped at all.

    – Henning Makholm
    Apr 11 '16 at 22:11











  • There are circumstances under which non-EEA passport holders can use the EEA lanes (family members, for example). These people can require passport stamps (family members without an 2004/38/EC residence permit, for example). I can speak from experience with such examples that the inspectors in the EEA lanes do have stamps.

    – phoog
    Apr 12 '16 at 23:12
















Why would one need to use the non-EEA lane? It's also possible to show both passports at the EEA lane and ask the border guard to stamp the non-EEA one. The border guard's reaction should not be any different in one lane or the other.

– phoog
Apr 11 '16 at 21:47





Why would one need to use the non-EEA lane? It's also possible to show both passports at the EEA lane and ask the border guard to stamp the non-EEA one. The border guard's reaction should not be any different in one lane or the other.

– phoog
Apr 11 '16 at 21:47




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@phoog: Mostly because I'm not sure the guard in the EEA lane would even have an exit stamp ready -- since EEA passports are not supposed to be stamped at all.

– Henning Makholm
Apr 11 '16 at 22:11





@phoog: Mostly because I'm not sure the guard in the EEA lane would even have an exit stamp ready -- since EEA passports are not supposed to be stamped at all.

– Henning Makholm
Apr 11 '16 at 22:11













There are circumstances under which non-EEA passport holders can use the EEA lanes (family members, for example). These people can require passport stamps (family members without an 2004/38/EC residence permit, for example). I can speak from experience with such examples that the inspectors in the EEA lanes do have stamps.

– phoog
Apr 12 '16 at 23:12





There are circumstances under which non-EEA passport holders can use the EEA lanes (family members, for example). These people can require passport stamps (family members without an 2004/38/EC residence permit, for example). I can speak from experience with such examples that the inspectors in the EEA lanes do have stamps.

– phoog
Apr 12 '16 at 23:12













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Whenever you travel without your Schengen passport, you run the risk of being treated as someone who does not possess the right of free movement within the European union (and non-EU Schengen countries).



Nobody can predict what trouble might arise. You could be "banned" from the Schengen area if you cannot prove your Schengen nationality, though the ban would be meaningless as soon as you produce documents to prove that you are in fact a citizen of a Schengen country.



To enjoy your right of free movement, you must be able to convince the authorities that you possess the nationality of your Schengen country. The only reliable way to do that is with a passport or ID card from that country.



In other words, it is not a good idea to travel around Europe without your European passport. Whether a simple unsubstantiated "explanation" will suffice is unknowable; it depends on the official to whom you are talking, and perhaps on what kind of day the official has been having. It's pretty likely that such an official will not be pleased with having to verify your claim of European citizenship without proper documentation.






share|improve this answer


















  • 1





    The original poster seems to be concerned about the reaction of third countries to the "incomplete paper trail" on his non-EU passport, e.g. when he submits it for a visa application.When a country looks for previous travel history, they might look for entry and exist stamps.

    – o.m.
    Apr 9 '16 at 6:58















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Whenever you travel without your Schengen passport, you run the risk of being treated as someone who does not possess the right of free movement within the European union (and non-EU Schengen countries).



Nobody can predict what trouble might arise. You could be "banned" from the Schengen area if you cannot prove your Schengen nationality, though the ban would be meaningless as soon as you produce documents to prove that you are in fact a citizen of a Schengen country.



To enjoy your right of free movement, you must be able to convince the authorities that you possess the nationality of your Schengen country. The only reliable way to do that is with a passport or ID card from that country.



In other words, it is not a good idea to travel around Europe without your European passport. Whether a simple unsubstantiated "explanation" will suffice is unknowable; it depends on the official to whom you are talking, and perhaps on what kind of day the official has been having. It's pretty likely that such an official will not be pleased with having to verify your claim of European citizenship without proper documentation.






share|improve this answer


















  • 1





    The original poster seems to be concerned about the reaction of third countries to the "incomplete paper trail" on his non-EU passport, e.g. when he submits it for a visa application.When a country looks for previous travel history, they might look for entry and exist stamps.

    – o.m.
    Apr 9 '16 at 6:58













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Whenever you travel without your Schengen passport, you run the risk of being treated as someone who does not possess the right of free movement within the European union (and non-EU Schengen countries).



Nobody can predict what trouble might arise. You could be "banned" from the Schengen area if you cannot prove your Schengen nationality, though the ban would be meaningless as soon as you produce documents to prove that you are in fact a citizen of a Schengen country.



To enjoy your right of free movement, you must be able to convince the authorities that you possess the nationality of your Schengen country. The only reliable way to do that is with a passport or ID card from that country.



In other words, it is not a good idea to travel around Europe without your European passport. Whether a simple unsubstantiated "explanation" will suffice is unknowable; it depends on the official to whom you are talking, and perhaps on what kind of day the official has been having. It's pretty likely that such an official will not be pleased with having to verify your claim of European citizenship without proper documentation.






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Whenever you travel without your Schengen passport, you run the risk of being treated as someone who does not possess the right of free movement within the European union (and non-EU Schengen countries).



Nobody can predict what trouble might arise. You could be "banned" from the Schengen area if you cannot prove your Schengen nationality, though the ban would be meaningless as soon as you produce documents to prove that you are in fact a citizen of a Schengen country.



To enjoy your right of free movement, you must be able to convince the authorities that you possess the nationality of your Schengen country. The only reliable way to do that is with a passport or ID card from that country.



In other words, it is not a good idea to travel around Europe without your European passport. Whether a simple unsubstantiated "explanation" will suffice is unknowable; it depends on the official to whom you are talking, and perhaps on what kind of day the official has been having. It's pretty likely that such an official will not be pleased with having to verify your claim of European citizenship without proper documentation.







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    The original poster seems to be concerned about the reaction of third countries to the "incomplete paper trail" on his non-EU passport, e.g. when he submits it for a visa application.When a country looks for previous travel history, they might look for entry and exist stamps.

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    The original poster seems to be concerned about the reaction of third countries to the "incomplete paper trail" on his non-EU passport, e.g. when he submits it for a visa application.When a country looks for previous travel history, they might look for entry and exist stamps.

    – o.m.
    Apr 9 '16 at 6:58







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The original poster seems to be concerned about the reaction of third countries to the "incomplete paper trail" on his non-EU passport, e.g. when he submits it for a visa application.When a country looks for previous travel history, they might look for entry and exist stamps.

– o.m.
Apr 9 '16 at 6:58





The original poster seems to be concerned about the reaction of third countries to the "incomplete paper trail" on his non-EU passport, e.g. when he submits it for a visa application.When a country looks for previous travel history, they might look for entry and exist stamps.

– o.m.
Apr 9 '16 at 6:58

















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