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I'm from Malaysia and I have visa-free entry to the Schengen area for 90 days. On January 1st, my visa-free entry renews. I'm running an Internet start up and am based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.



I'm planning to enter the Schengen area again on the 31st since I want to celebrate New Year's Eve and my engagement ceremony on that day. My fiance and I aren't married yet but we are getting engaged on the 31st. He is Austrian, so that isn't an issue, but if I enter the Schengen area on the 31st, a day before my Visa free entry date starts, would that be a problem?



I've already applied for my Rot-Weis-ROT CARD so that I can establish my start-up in Austria. It's been 6 weeks since I applied for it in October (2nd or 3rd week) and they probably received my application in November. They have also had a recent election, which has slowed down the process according to my fiance.



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I'm from Malaysia and I have visa-free entry to the Schengen area for 90 days. On January 1st, my visa-free entry renews. I'm running an Internet start up and am based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.



I'm planning to enter the Schengen area again on the 31st since I want to celebrate New Year's Eve and my engagement ceremony on that day. My fiance and I aren't married yet but we are getting engaged on the 31st. He is Austrian, so that isn't an issue, but if I enter the Schengen area on the 31st, a day before my Visa free entry date starts, would that be a problem?



I've already applied for my Rot-Weis-ROT CARD so that I can establish my start-up in Austria. It's been 6 weeks since I applied for it in October (2nd or 3rd week) and they probably received my application in November. They have also had a recent election, which has slowed down the process according to my fiance.



Is this possible?










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I'm from Malaysia and I have visa-free entry to the Schengen area for 90 days. On January 1st, my visa-free entry renews. I'm running an Internet start up and am based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.



I'm planning to enter the Schengen area again on the 31st since I want to celebrate New Year's Eve and my engagement ceremony on that day. My fiance and I aren't married yet but we are getting engaged on the 31st. He is Austrian, so that isn't an issue, but if I enter the Schengen area on the 31st, a day before my Visa free entry date starts, would that be a problem?



I've already applied for my Rot-Weis-ROT CARD so that I can establish my start-up in Austria. It's been 6 weeks since I applied for it in October (2nd or 3rd week) and they probably received my application in November. They have also had a recent election, which has slowed down the process according to my fiance.



Is this possible?










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  • How does the Schengen 90/180 rule work?

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I'm from Malaysia and I have visa-free entry to the Schengen area for 90 days. On January 1st, my visa-free entry renews. I'm running an Internet start up and am based in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.



I'm planning to enter the Schengen area again on the 31st since I want to celebrate New Year's Eve and my engagement ceremony on that day. My fiance and I aren't married yet but we are getting engaged on the 31st. He is Austrian, so that isn't an issue, but if I enter the Schengen area on the 31st, a day before my Visa free entry date starts, would that be a problem?



I've already applied for my Rot-Weis-ROT CARD so that I can establish my start-up in Austria. It's been 6 weeks since I applied for it in October (2nd or 3rd week) and they probably received my application in November. They have also had a recent election, which has slowed down the process according to my fiance.



Is this possible?





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The day you entered the first time has no special significance. There is no 180-day period starting on that date that would roll over. And you don't get another 90 days or start another 180-day period by entering at a later date as implied by one of your comments.



The rule is simply that you can only ever be in the Schengen area for 90 days out of any 180-day period. This should typically be checked on entry and on exit but holds for any day you are present in the Schengen area.



It's true that if you stayed in the Schengen area for 90 days straight then you have to stay out of the area for 90 days before coming back again but that's just one special case. It's not really that a new 180-day period is starting or anything like that, it's just that after 90 full days out of the area, there are only 89 days of the previous stay that can possibly still count (because you are only ever considering 180 days: the day you would enter (that's 1) and the 179 days prior to that so 90 days spent out of the area + at most 89 days in the area).



For all other cases, you have to consider exactly how much you stayed and when and the easiest way to do that is to use the calculator. But as Henning explained in a comment: Unless you have stayed exactly 90 days between July 5th and December 31st, you can definitely enter on December 31st. That's also true if you stayed 89 days already. For how long we can't know as it depends on the details of your previous stays but you can enter.






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    The day you entered the first time has no special significance. There is no 180-day period starting on that date that would roll over. And you don't get another 90 days or start another 180-day period by entering at a later date as implied by one of your comments.



    The rule is simply that you can only ever be in the Schengen area for 90 days out of any 180-day period. This should typically be checked on entry and on exit but holds for any day you are present in the Schengen area.



    It's true that if you stayed in the Schengen area for 90 days straight then you have to stay out of the area for 90 days before coming back again but that's just one special case. It's not really that a new 180-day period is starting or anything like that, it's just that after 90 full days out of the area, there are only 89 days of the previous stay that can possibly still count (because you are only ever considering 180 days: the day you would enter (that's 1) and the 179 days prior to that so 90 days spent out of the area + at most 89 days in the area).



    For all other cases, you have to consider exactly how much you stayed and when and the easiest way to do that is to use the calculator. But as Henning explained in a comment: Unless you have stayed exactly 90 days between July 5th and December 31st, you can definitely enter on December 31st. That's also true if you stayed 89 days already. For how long we can't know as it depends on the details of your previous stays but you can enter.






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      The day you entered the first time has no special significance. There is no 180-day period starting on that date that would roll over. And you don't get another 90 days or start another 180-day period by entering at a later date as implied by one of your comments.



      The rule is simply that you can only ever be in the Schengen area for 90 days out of any 180-day period. This should typically be checked on entry and on exit but holds for any day you are present in the Schengen area.



      It's true that if you stayed in the Schengen area for 90 days straight then you have to stay out of the area for 90 days before coming back again but that's just one special case. It's not really that a new 180-day period is starting or anything like that, it's just that after 90 full days out of the area, there are only 89 days of the previous stay that can possibly still count (because you are only ever considering 180 days: the day you would enter (that's 1) and the 179 days prior to that so 90 days spent out of the area + at most 89 days in the area).



      For all other cases, you have to consider exactly how much you stayed and when and the easiest way to do that is to use the calculator. But as Henning explained in a comment: Unless you have stayed exactly 90 days between July 5th and December 31st, you can definitely enter on December 31st. That's also true if you stayed 89 days already. For how long we can't know as it depends on the details of your previous stays but you can enter.






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        The day you entered the first time has no special significance. There is no 180-day period starting on that date that would roll over. And you don't get another 90 days or start another 180-day period by entering at a later date as implied by one of your comments.



        The rule is simply that you can only ever be in the Schengen area for 90 days out of any 180-day period. This should typically be checked on entry and on exit but holds for any day you are present in the Schengen area.



        It's true that if you stayed in the Schengen area for 90 days straight then you have to stay out of the area for 90 days before coming back again but that's just one special case. It's not really that a new 180-day period is starting or anything like that, it's just that after 90 full days out of the area, there are only 89 days of the previous stay that can possibly still count (because you are only ever considering 180 days: the day you would enter (that's 1) and the 179 days prior to that so 90 days spent out of the area + at most 89 days in the area).



        For all other cases, you have to consider exactly how much you stayed and when and the easiest way to do that is to use the calculator. But as Henning explained in a comment: Unless you have stayed exactly 90 days between July 5th and December 31st, you can definitely enter on December 31st. That's also true if you stayed 89 days already. For how long we can't know as it depends on the details of your previous stays but you can enter.






        share|improve this answer















        The day you entered the first time has no special significance. There is no 180-day period starting on that date that would roll over. And you don't get another 90 days or start another 180-day period by entering at a later date as implied by one of your comments.



        The rule is simply that you can only ever be in the Schengen area for 90 days out of any 180-day period. This should typically be checked on entry and on exit but holds for any day you are present in the Schengen area.



        It's true that if you stayed in the Schengen area for 90 days straight then you have to stay out of the area for 90 days before coming back again but that's just one special case. It's not really that a new 180-day period is starting or anything like that, it's just that after 90 full days out of the area, there are only 89 days of the previous stay that can possibly still count (because you are only ever considering 180 days: the day you would enter (that's 1) and the 179 days prior to that so 90 days spent out of the area + at most 89 days in the area).



        For all other cases, you have to consider exactly how much you stayed and when and the easiest way to do that is to use the calculator. But as Henning explained in a comment: Unless you have stayed exactly 90 days between July 5th and December 31st, you can definitely enter on December 31st. That's also true if you stayed 89 days already. For how long we can't know as it depends on the details of your previous stays but you can enter.







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