Are visa applications from Chinese citizens commonly refused for lack of ties?










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I am helping my girlfriend, who is a Chinese citizen living in China, to apply for a Swedish visa to come and visit me this summer. I visited her in China in the fall and had no trouble obtaining a Chinese visa with an invitation letter from her, but I suspect it may not be as simple the other way around. Specifically, I was troubled by reading this question and its answers.



Questions:



  1. Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China and refuse her visa application because they think she might not return?

  2. I have found lists of required documents for her application on these websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so, what kind of documents could help?

  3. Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big waste of money if the application is refused.)

Details:



  • I am a Swedish citizen with permanent full-time employment.

  • She is a Chinese citizen with permanent full-time employment.

  • She has a mother, a father (divorced) and a much younger brother living in China. She is especially close to her brother and and takes on some parental responsibilities for him, but I guess that would be a hard thing to prove.

  • She will stay with me during her whole visit and I intend to cover her expenses.









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  • I doubt there are publicly available statistics for the ranking of Swedish visa rejections for lack of ties by country, but even if there were they would not indicate anything very useful for one specific visa application.
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 22:38






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    @pnuts I didn't specifically ask for such detailed statistics, although that would have been nice. My impression is that immigration authorities generally show very different levels of suspicion in these matters depending on the citizenship of the applicant. Any information regarding weather a Chinese citizen would be treated more like a Kenyan citizen (as in the linked question) or say a US citizen would be appreciated. I don't expect anyone to be able predict the outcome of the application.
    – jkej
    Feb 5 '17 at 22:59










  • That is answerable, US citizens don't require a visa for a short visit to Sweden, so "More like a Kenyan".
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:06







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    For tickets the requirement is confirmation of the booking of an organised trip or any other appropriate document indicating the envisaged travel plans. The tickets need not have been paid for (Sweden recommends deferring purchase) though it is possible an applicant will be requested to show their ticket before a visa is released.
    – pnuts
    Feb 6 '17 at 0:10











  • I don't see how knowing common reasons for rejection is useful to you. Visa applications are judged on their own merits.
    – David Richerby
    Feb 6 '17 at 10:07















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I am helping my girlfriend, who is a Chinese citizen living in China, to apply for a Swedish visa to come and visit me this summer. I visited her in China in the fall and had no trouble obtaining a Chinese visa with an invitation letter from her, but I suspect it may not be as simple the other way around. Specifically, I was troubled by reading this question and its answers.



Questions:



  1. Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China and refuse her visa application because they think she might not return?

  2. I have found lists of required documents for her application on these websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so, what kind of documents could help?

  3. Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big waste of money if the application is refused.)

Details:



  • I am a Swedish citizen with permanent full-time employment.

  • She is a Chinese citizen with permanent full-time employment.

  • She has a mother, a father (divorced) and a much younger brother living in China. She is especially close to her brother and and takes on some parental responsibilities for him, but I guess that would be a hard thing to prove.

  • She will stay with me during her whole visit and I intend to cover her expenses.









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  • I doubt there are publicly available statistics for the ranking of Swedish visa rejections for lack of ties by country, but even if there were they would not indicate anything very useful for one specific visa application.
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 22:38






  • 1




    @pnuts I didn't specifically ask for such detailed statistics, although that would have been nice. My impression is that immigration authorities generally show very different levels of suspicion in these matters depending on the citizenship of the applicant. Any information regarding weather a Chinese citizen would be treated more like a Kenyan citizen (as in the linked question) or say a US citizen would be appreciated. I don't expect anyone to be able predict the outcome of the application.
    – jkej
    Feb 5 '17 at 22:59










  • That is answerable, US citizens don't require a visa for a short visit to Sweden, so "More like a Kenyan".
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:06







  • 1




    For tickets the requirement is confirmation of the booking of an organised trip or any other appropriate document indicating the envisaged travel plans. The tickets need not have been paid for (Sweden recommends deferring purchase) though it is possible an applicant will be requested to show their ticket before a visa is released.
    – pnuts
    Feb 6 '17 at 0:10











  • I don't see how knowing common reasons for rejection is useful to you. Visa applications are judged on their own merits.
    – David Richerby
    Feb 6 '17 at 10:07













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I am helping my girlfriend, who is a Chinese citizen living in China, to apply for a Swedish visa to come and visit me this summer. I visited her in China in the fall and had no trouble obtaining a Chinese visa with an invitation letter from her, but I suspect it may not be as simple the other way around. Specifically, I was troubled by reading this question and its answers.



Questions:



  1. Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China and refuse her visa application because they think she might not return?

  2. I have found lists of required documents for her application on these websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so, what kind of documents could help?

  3. Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big waste of money if the application is refused.)

Details:



  • I am a Swedish citizen with permanent full-time employment.

  • She is a Chinese citizen with permanent full-time employment.

  • She has a mother, a father (divorced) and a much younger brother living in China. She is especially close to her brother and and takes on some parental responsibilities for him, but I guess that would be a hard thing to prove.

  • She will stay with me during her whole visit and I intend to cover her expenses.









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I am helping my girlfriend, who is a Chinese citizen living in China, to apply for a Swedish visa to come and visit me this summer. I visited her in China in the fall and had no trouble obtaining a Chinese visa with an invitation letter from her, but I suspect it may not be as simple the other way around. Specifically, I was troubled by reading this question and its answers.



Questions:



  1. Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China and refuse her visa application because they think she might not return?

  2. I have found lists of required documents for her application on these websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so, what kind of documents could help?

  3. Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big waste of money if the application is refused.)

Details:



  • I am a Swedish citizen with permanent full-time employment.

  • She is a Chinese citizen with permanent full-time employment.

  • She has a mother, a father (divorced) and a much younger brother living in China. She is especially close to her brother and and takes on some parental responsibilities for him, but I guess that would be a hard thing to prove.

  • She will stay with me during her whole visit and I intend to cover her expenses.






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  • I doubt there are publicly available statistics for the ranking of Swedish visa rejections for lack of ties by country, but even if there were they would not indicate anything very useful for one specific visa application.
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 22:38






  • 1




    @pnuts I didn't specifically ask for such detailed statistics, although that would have been nice. My impression is that immigration authorities generally show very different levels of suspicion in these matters depending on the citizenship of the applicant. Any information regarding weather a Chinese citizen would be treated more like a Kenyan citizen (as in the linked question) or say a US citizen would be appreciated. I don't expect anyone to be able predict the outcome of the application.
    – jkej
    Feb 5 '17 at 22:59










  • That is answerable, US citizens don't require a visa for a short visit to Sweden, so "More like a Kenyan".
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:06







  • 1




    For tickets the requirement is confirmation of the booking of an organised trip or any other appropriate document indicating the envisaged travel plans. The tickets need not have been paid for (Sweden recommends deferring purchase) though it is possible an applicant will be requested to show their ticket before a visa is released.
    – pnuts
    Feb 6 '17 at 0:10











  • I don't see how knowing common reasons for rejection is useful to you. Visa applications are judged on their own merits.
    – David Richerby
    Feb 6 '17 at 10:07
















  • I doubt there are publicly available statistics for the ranking of Swedish visa rejections for lack of ties by country, but even if there were they would not indicate anything very useful for one specific visa application.
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 22:38






  • 1




    @pnuts I didn't specifically ask for such detailed statistics, although that would have been nice. My impression is that immigration authorities generally show very different levels of suspicion in these matters depending on the citizenship of the applicant. Any information regarding weather a Chinese citizen would be treated more like a Kenyan citizen (as in the linked question) or say a US citizen would be appreciated. I don't expect anyone to be able predict the outcome of the application.
    – jkej
    Feb 5 '17 at 22:59










  • That is answerable, US citizens don't require a visa for a short visit to Sweden, so "More like a Kenyan".
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:06







  • 1




    For tickets the requirement is confirmation of the booking of an organised trip or any other appropriate document indicating the envisaged travel plans. The tickets need not have been paid for (Sweden recommends deferring purchase) though it is possible an applicant will be requested to show their ticket before a visa is released.
    – pnuts
    Feb 6 '17 at 0:10











  • I don't see how knowing common reasons for rejection is useful to you. Visa applications are judged on their own merits.
    – David Richerby
    Feb 6 '17 at 10:07















I doubt there are publicly available statistics for the ranking of Swedish visa rejections for lack of ties by country, but even if there were they would not indicate anything very useful for one specific visa application.
– pnuts
Feb 5 '17 at 22:38




I doubt there are publicly available statistics for the ranking of Swedish visa rejections for lack of ties by country, but even if there were they would not indicate anything very useful for one specific visa application.
– pnuts
Feb 5 '17 at 22:38




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@pnuts I didn't specifically ask for such detailed statistics, although that would have been nice. My impression is that immigration authorities generally show very different levels of suspicion in these matters depending on the citizenship of the applicant. Any information regarding weather a Chinese citizen would be treated more like a Kenyan citizen (as in the linked question) or say a US citizen would be appreciated. I don't expect anyone to be able predict the outcome of the application.
– jkej
Feb 5 '17 at 22:59




@pnuts I didn't specifically ask for such detailed statistics, although that would have been nice. My impression is that immigration authorities generally show very different levels of suspicion in these matters depending on the citizenship of the applicant. Any information regarding weather a Chinese citizen would be treated more like a Kenyan citizen (as in the linked question) or say a US citizen would be appreciated. I don't expect anyone to be able predict the outcome of the application.
– jkej
Feb 5 '17 at 22:59












That is answerable, US citizens don't require a visa for a short visit to Sweden, so "More like a Kenyan".
– pnuts
Feb 5 '17 at 23:06





That is answerable, US citizens don't require a visa for a short visit to Sweden, so "More like a Kenyan".
– pnuts
Feb 5 '17 at 23:06





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For tickets the requirement is confirmation of the booking of an organised trip or any other appropriate document indicating the envisaged travel plans. The tickets need not have been paid for (Sweden recommends deferring purchase) though it is possible an applicant will be requested to show their ticket before a visa is released.
– pnuts
Feb 6 '17 at 0:10





For tickets the requirement is confirmation of the booking of an organised trip or any other appropriate document indicating the envisaged travel plans. The tickets need not have been paid for (Sweden recommends deferring purchase) though it is possible an applicant will be requested to show their ticket before a visa is released.
– pnuts
Feb 6 '17 at 0:10













I don't see how knowing common reasons for rejection is useful to you. Visa applications are judged on their own merits.
– David Richerby
Feb 6 '17 at 10:07




I don't see how knowing common reasons for rejection is useful to you. Visa applications are judged on their own merits.
– David Richerby
Feb 6 '17 at 10:07










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Do Chinese people have lack of homeland ties such that their applications are 'commonly' refused?



First, let's have a look at the statistics as taken from Visa Statistics from Consulates 2013 and filter it for China...



enter image description here



...and it indicates an overall refusal rate of about 4%, or roughly 1 in 25 applicants were refused versus about 96% were successful. That's about 1,500,000 Chinese visitors for 2013. There are comparable figures for 2014, but these have not been formally admitted into the EU archives yet.



So there is nothing in these figures that indicate a prejudicial treatment towards the Chinese on face value. Referring to the same sheet, we can get the figures for Sweden...



enter image description here



...and see that Sweden has one of the higher refusal rates (about 8%) of the 24 members reporting their statistic.



From these we can conclude that Sweden is a tougher member than most of the others but there's nothing to indicate that the Chinese are subjected to prejudice one way or the other.



Finally, looking at the two Swedish consulates in China that accept Schengen applications...



enter image description here



...the refusal rates are broadly in line with Sweden's overall refusal rate. So your assumptions (i.e., "commonly rejected") are not supported on a broad level.



Your question then distils down to the individual reasons for each of the people who were not successful. We only know from empirical data that many refusals are caused by the lack of apparent ties which is in turn caused by genuine cases where the applicant lacks sufficient ties AND applicants who had sufficient ties to their homeland but failed to make this clear in their application.



On to your specific questions...




Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China
and refuse her visa application because they think she might not
return?




They will absolutely examine her ties to China and if she does not qualify they will refuse. This is a matter of law and they are required to refuse when an individual does not qualify. The onus is on her to show that she qualifies (see Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me? for any applicability it may have to visa assessment within the Schengen regime)




I have found lists of required documents for her application on these
websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in
her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so,
what kind of documents could help?




The required documents are usually sufficient but if you have something of particular significance, like an employment contract with the Chinese government, then by all means include it.




Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies
of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies
intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big
waste of money if the application is refused.)




You need to read the Required Documents page again, where it says...




A booked return ticket (we advise you to delay payment until your visa
has been granted). Please note that this is not required for visas
for business purposes, short professional training, sports/culture,
and visiting family/friends.







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    A minor point about presentation: As the grand total line seems to indicate the grand total of each filtered column, it does not provide any additional information and could be removed. In fact, I would argue it should be removed, as it could otherwise be mistaken for the overall grand total (of the unfiltered list), leading to the most likely incorrect conclusion that China is exactly on average.
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:34











  • @O.R.Mapper I know, but how to do that without polluting the results?
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:36






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    I thought of simply removing the grand total row from the tables, either before creating the screenshot, or afterwards (by cropping the image from the bottom).
    – O. R. Mapper
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  • @O.R.Mapper I will check if I can do that without making a mess out of it.
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    Feb 5 '17 at 23:39










  • Simply hide the relevant row before capturing the image? (Select it, right-click, Hide)
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I will answer question 3.



Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? No it is an unnecessary risk to buy a return ticket ahead of time, hoping it provides proof of intent to return. The truth is that most international tickets are cheaper than buying one way thus buying a return trip is a weak evidence of intent to return. Many absconders/overstayers routinely buy return tickets but don't return. The ability and willingness to buy a return ticket proves nothing.






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  • Are you sure about "most" (seems may not be the case between China and Sweden)?
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After seeing the numbers in Gayot Fow's answer I thought it would be interesting to compare the numbers for different countries. Using the same data set, I made some figures to visualize the differences between countries.



The map below shows the total C visa refusal rate for each country with at least one Schengen consulate. I have set the maximum value to 30% even though some countries are significantly above that. There is obviously something strange going on with some of the Schengen countries themselves (For instance Denmark and Sweden has the highest refusal rates of all but there only a few hundred of them and they are almost all from the Norwegian consulates.), but apart from that I think this gives a general idea of how applicants from different countries are viewed on an aggregate level.



Total C visa refusal rate for all Schengen countries



Below is a similar map but only for Swedish consulates. Obviously there are much fewer consulates so this may not add so much information compared to the previous one. The differences may be more noise than signal.



Total C visa refusal rate for Swedish consulates



Of course, as was pointed out by pnuts, we cannot know how many of these visa refusals were due to "lack of ties". We also don't know anything about the "quality" of applications from different countries, i.e. the applicants' individual circumstances and how well they were documented. Hence, these statistics cannot necessarily answer my question directly.



Finally, I made a figure showing the refusal rate for each country from all the individual Schengen countries.



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  • You seem to accept, this does not answer your question.
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Do Chinese people have lack of homeland ties such that their applications are 'commonly' refused?



First, let's have a look at the statistics as taken from Visa Statistics from Consulates 2013 and filter it for China...



enter image description here



...and it indicates an overall refusal rate of about 4%, or roughly 1 in 25 applicants were refused versus about 96% were successful. That's about 1,500,000 Chinese visitors for 2013. There are comparable figures for 2014, but these have not been formally admitted into the EU archives yet.



So there is nothing in these figures that indicate a prejudicial treatment towards the Chinese on face value. Referring to the same sheet, we can get the figures for Sweden...



enter image description here



...and see that Sweden has one of the higher refusal rates (about 8%) of the 24 members reporting their statistic.



From these we can conclude that Sweden is a tougher member than most of the others but there's nothing to indicate that the Chinese are subjected to prejudice one way or the other.



Finally, looking at the two Swedish consulates in China that accept Schengen applications...



enter image description here



...the refusal rates are broadly in line with Sweden's overall refusal rate. So your assumptions (i.e., "commonly rejected") are not supported on a broad level.



Your question then distils down to the individual reasons for each of the people who were not successful. We only know from empirical data that many refusals are caused by the lack of apparent ties which is in turn caused by genuine cases where the applicant lacks sufficient ties AND applicants who had sufficient ties to their homeland but failed to make this clear in their application.



On to your specific questions...




Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China
and refuse her visa application because they think she might not
return?




They will absolutely examine her ties to China and if she does not qualify they will refuse. This is a matter of law and they are required to refuse when an individual does not qualify. The onus is on her to show that she qualifies (see Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me? for any applicability it may have to visa assessment within the Schengen regime)




I have found lists of required documents for her application on these
websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in
her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so,
what kind of documents could help?




The required documents are usually sufficient but if you have something of particular significance, like an employment contract with the Chinese government, then by all means include it.




Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies
of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies
intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big
waste of money if the application is refused.)




You need to read the Required Documents page again, where it says...




A booked return ticket (we advise you to delay payment until your visa
has been granted). Please note that this is not required for visas
for business purposes, short professional training, sports/culture,
and visiting family/friends.







share|improve this answer


















  • 3




    A minor point about presentation: As the grand total line seems to indicate the grand total of each filtered column, it does not provide any additional information and could be removed. In fact, I would argue it should be removed, as it could otherwise be mistaken for the overall grand total (of the unfiltered list), leading to the most likely incorrect conclusion that China is exactly on average.
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:34











  • @O.R.Mapper I know, but how to do that without polluting the results?
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:36






  • 1




    I thought of simply removing the grand total row from the tables, either before creating the screenshot, or afterwards (by cropping the image from the bottom).
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:37










  • @O.R.Mapper I will check if I can do that without making a mess out of it.
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:39










  • Simply hide the relevant row before capturing the image? (Select it, right-click, Hide)
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:56
















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Do Chinese people have lack of homeland ties such that their applications are 'commonly' refused?



First, let's have a look at the statistics as taken from Visa Statistics from Consulates 2013 and filter it for China...



enter image description here



...and it indicates an overall refusal rate of about 4%, or roughly 1 in 25 applicants were refused versus about 96% were successful. That's about 1,500,000 Chinese visitors for 2013. There are comparable figures for 2014, but these have not been formally admitted into the EU archives yet.



So there is nothing in these figures that indicate a prejudicial treatment towards the Chinese on face value. Referring to the same sheet, we can get the figures for Sweden...



enter image description here



...and see that Sweden has one of the higher refusal rates (about 8%) of the 24 members reporting their statistic.



From these we can conclude that Sweden is a tougher member than most of the others but there's nothing to indicate that the Chinese are subjected to prejudice one way or the other.



Finally, looking at the two Swedish consulates in China that accept Schengen applications...



enter image description here



...the refusal rates are broadly in line with Sweden's overall refusal rate. So your assumptions (i.e., "commonly rejected") are not supported on a broad level.



Your question then distils down to the individual reasons for each of the people who were not successful. We only know from empirical data that many refusals are caused by the lack of apparent ties which is in turn caused by genuine cases where the applicant lacks sufficient ties AND applicants who had sufficient ties to their homeland but failed to make this clear in their application.



On to your specific questions...




Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China
and refuse her visa application because they think she might not
return?




They will absolutely examine her ties to China and if she does not qualify they will refuse. This is a matter of law and they are required to refuse when an individual does not qualify. The onus is on her to show that she qualifies (see Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me? for any applicability it may have to visa assessment within the Schengen regime)




I have found lists of required documents for her application on these
websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in
her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so,
what kind of documents could help?




The required documents are usually sufficient but if you have something of particular significance, like an employment contract with the Chinese government, then by all means include it.




Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies
of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies
intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big
waste of money if the application is refused.)




You need to read the Required Documents page again, where it says...




A booked return ticket (we advise you to delay payment until your visa
has been granted). Please note that this is not required for visas
for business purposes, short professional training, sports/culture,
and visiting family/friends.







share|improve this answer


















  • 3




    A minor point about presentation: As the grand total line seems to indicate the grand total of each filtered column, it does not provide any additional information and could be removed. In fact, I would argue it should be removed, as it could otherwise be mistaken for the overall grand total (of the unfiltered list), leading to the most likely incorrect conclusion that China is exactly on average.
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:34











  • @O.R.Mapper I know, but how to do that without polluting the results?
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:36






  • 1




    I thought of simply removing the grand total row from the tables, either before creating the screenshot, or afterwards (by cropping the image from the bottom).
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:37










  • @O.R.Mapper I will check if I can do that without making a mess out of it.
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:39










  • Simply hide the relevant row before capturing the image? (Select it, right-click, Hide)
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:56














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Do Chinese people have lack of homeland ties such that their applications are 'commonly' refused?



First, let's have a look at the statistics as taken from Visa Statistics from Consulates 2013 and filter it for China...



enter image description here



...and it indicates an overall refusal rate of about 4%, or roughly 1 in 25 applicants were refused versus about 96% were successful. That's about 1,500,000 Chinese visitors for 2013. There are comparable figures for 2014, but these have not been formally admitted into the EU archives yet.



So there is nothing in these figures that indicate a prejudicial treatment towards the Chinese on face value. Referring to the same sheet, we can get the figures for Sweden...



enter image description here



...and see that Sweden has one of the higher refusal rates (about 8%) of the 24 members reporting their statistic.



From these we can conclude that Sweden is a tougher member than most of the others but there's nothing to indicate that the Chinese are subjected to prejudice one way or the other.



Finally, looking at the two Swedish consulates in China that accept Schengen applications...



enter image description here



...the refusal rates are broadly in line with Sweden's overall refusal rate. So your assumptions (i.e., "commonly rejected") are not supported on a broad level.



Your question then distils down to the individual reasons for each of the people who were not successful. We only know from empirical data that many refusals are caused by the lack of apparent ties which is in turn caused by genuine cases where the applicant lacks sufficient ties AND applicants who had sufficient ties to their homeland but failed to make this clear in their application.



On to your specific questions...




Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China
and refuse her visa application because they think she might not
return?




They will absolutely examine her ties to China and if she does not qualify they will refuse. This is a matter of law and they are required to refuse when an individual does not qualify. The onus is on her to show that she qualifies (see Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me? for any applicability it may have to visa assessment within the Schengen regime)




I have found lists of required documents for her application on these
websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in
her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so,
what kind of documents could help?




The required documents are usually sufficient but if you have something of particular significance, like an employment contract with the Chinese government, then by all means include it.




Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies
of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies
intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big
waste of money if the application is refused.)




You need to read the Required Documents page again, where it says...




A booked return ticket (we advise you to delay payment until your visa
has been granted). Please note that this is not required for visas
for business purposes, short professional training, sports/culture,
and visiting family/friends.







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Do Chinese people have lack of homeland ties such that their applications are 'commonly' refused?



First, let's have a look at the statistics as taken from Visa Statistics from Consulates 2013 and filter it for China...



enter image description here



...and it indicates an overall refusal rate of about 4%, or roughly 1 in 25 applicants were refused versus about 96% were successful. That's about 1,500,000 Chinese visitors for 2013. There are comparable figures for 2014, but these have not been formally admitted into the EU archives yet.



So there is nothing in these figures that indicate a prejudicial treatment towards the Chinese on face value. Referring to the same sheet, we can get the figures for Sweden...



enter image description here



...and see that Sweden has one of the higher refusal rates (about 8%) of the 24 members reporting their statistic.



From these we can conclude that Sweden is a tougher member than most of the others but there's nothing to indicate that the Chinese are subjected to prejudice one way or the other.



Finally, looking at the two Swedish consulates in China that accept Schengen applications...



enter image description here



...the refusal rates are broadly in line with Sweden's overall refusal rate. So your assumptions (i.e., "commonly rejected") are not supported on a broad level.



Your question then distils down to the individual reasons for each of the people who were not successful. We only know from empirical data that many refusals are caused by the lack of apparent ties which is in turn caused by genuine cases where the applicant lacks sufficient ties AND applicants who had sufficient ties to their homeland but failed to make this clear in their application.



On to your specific questions...




Is it likely that the migration agency will question her ties to China
and refuse her visa application because they think she might not
return?




They will absolutely examine her ties to China and if she does not qualify they will refuse. This is a matter of law and they are required to refuse when an individual does not qualify. The onus is on her to show that she qualifies (see Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me? for any applicability it may have to visa assessment within the Schengen regime)




I have found lists of required documents for her application on these
websites. Should we include additional proof of her ties to China in
her application or is it enough with the required documents? If so,
what kind of documents could help?




The required documents are usually sufficient but if you have something of particular significance, like an employment contract with the Chinese government, then by all means include it.




Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies
of them in the application? (I guess the return ticket signifies
intent and economic feasibility of returning, but it would be a big
waste of money if the application is refused.)




You need to read the Required Documents page again, where it says...




A booked return ticket (we advise you to delay payment until your visa
has been granted). Please note that this is not required for visas
for business purposes, short professional training, sports/culture,
and visiting family/friends.








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    A minor point about presentation: As the grand total line seems to indicate the grand total of each filtered column, it does not provide any additional information and could be removed. In fact, I would argue it should be removed, as it could otherwise be mistaken for the overall grand total (of the unfiltered list), leading to the most likely incorrect conclusion that China is exactly on average.
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:34











  • @O.R.Mapper I know, but how to do that without polluting the results?
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:36






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    I thought of simply removing the grand total row from the tables, either before creating the screenshot, or afterwards (by cropping the image from the bottom).
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:37










  • @O.R.Mapper I will check if I can do that without making a mess out of it.
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:39










  • Simply hide the relevant row before capturing the image? (Select it, right-click, Hide)
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:56













  • 3




    A minor point about presentation: As the grand total line seems to indicate the grand total of each filtered column, it does not provide any additional information and could be removed. In fact, I would argue it should be removed, as it could otherwise be mistaken for the overall grand total (of the unfiltered list), leading to the most likely incorrect conclusion that China is exactly on average.
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:34











  • @O.R.Mapper I know, but how to do that without polluting the results?
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:36






  • 1




    I thought of simply removing the grand total row from the tables, either before creating the screenshot, or afterwards (by cropping the image from the bottom).
    – O. R. Mapper
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:37










  • @O.R.Mapper I will check if I can do that without making a mess out of it.
    – Gayot Fow
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:39










  • Simply hide the relevant row before capturing the image? (Select it, right-click, Hide)
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:56








3




3




A minor point about presentation: As the grand total line seems to indicate the grand total of each filtered column, it does not provide any additional information and could be removed. In fact, I would argue it should be removed, as it could otherwise be mistaken for the overall grand total (of the unfiltered list), leading to the most likely incorrect conclusion that China is exactly on average.
– O. R. Mapper
Feb 5 '17 at 23:34





A minor point about presentation: As the grand total line seems to indicate the grand total of each filtered column, it does not provide any additional information and could be removed. In fact, I would argue it should be removed, as it could otherwise be mistaken for the overall grand total (of the unfiltered list), leading to the most likely incorrect conclusion that China is exactly on average.
– O. R. Mapper
Feb 5 '17 at 23:34













@O.R.Mapper I know, but how to do that without polluting the results?
– Gayot Fow
Feb 5 '17 at 23:36




@O.R.Mapper I know, but how to do that without polluting the results?
– Gayot Fow
Feb 5 '17 at 23:36




1




1




I thought of simply removing the grand total row from the tables, either before creating the screenshot, or afterwards (by cropping the image from the bottom).
– O. R. Mapper
Feb 5 '17 at 23:37




I thought of simply removing the grand total row from the tables, either before creating the screenshot, or afterwards (by cropping the image from the bottom).
– O. R. Mapper
Feb 5 '17 at 23:37












@O.R.Mapper I will check if I can do that without making a mess out of it.
– Gayot Fow
Feb 5 '17 at 23:39




@O.R.Mapper I will check if I can do that without making a mess out of it.
– Gayot Fow
Feb 5 '17 at 23:39












Simply hide the relevant row before capturing the image? (Select it, right-click, Hide)
– pnuts
Feb 5 '17 at 23:56





Simply hide the relevant row before capturing the image? (Select it, right-click, Hide)
– pnuts
Feb 5 '17 at 23:56














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I will answer question 3.



Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? No it is an unnecessary risk to buy a return ticket ahead of time, hoping it provides proof of intent to return. The truth is that most international tickets are cheaper than buying one way thus buying a return trip is a weak evidence of intent to return. Many absconders/overstayers routinely buy return tickets but don't return. The ability and willingness to buy a return ticket proves nothing.






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  • Are you sure about "most" (seems may not be the case between China and Sweden)?
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:40















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I will answer question 3.



Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? No it is an unnecessary risk to buy a return ticket ahead of time, hoping it provides proof of intent to return. The truth is that most international tickets are cheaper than buying one way thus buying a return trip is a weak evidence of intent to return. Many absconders/overstayers routinely buy return tickets but don't return. The ability and willingness to buy a return ticket proves nothing.






share|improve this answer




















  • Are you sure about "most" (seems may not be the case between China and Sweden)?
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:40













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I will answer question 3.



Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? No it is an unnecessary risk to buy a return ticket ahead of time, hoping it provides proof of intent to return. The truth is that most international tickets are cheaper than buying one way thus buying a return trip is a weak evidence of intent to return. Many absconders/overstayers routinely buy return tickets but don't return. The ability and willingness to buy a return ticket proves nothing.






share|improve this answer












I will answer question 3.



Is it a good idea to buy flight tickets in advance and include copies of them in the application? No it is an unnecessary risk to buy a return ticket ahead of time, hoping it provides proof of intent to return. The truth is that most international tickets are cheaper than buying one way thus buying a return trip is a weak evidence of intent to return. Many absconders/overstayers routinely buy return tickets but don't return. The ability and willingness to buy a return ticket proves nothing.







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  • Are you sure about "most" (seems may not be the case between China and Sweden)?
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:40
















  • Are you sure about "most" (seems may not be the case between China and Sweden)?
    – pnuts
    Feb 5 '17 at 23:40















Are you sure about "most" (seems may not be the case between China and Sweden)?
– pnuts
Feb 5 '17 at 23:40




Are you sure about "most" (seems may not be the case between China and Sweden)?
– pnuts
Feb 5 '17 at 23:40











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After seeing the numbers in Gayot Fow's answer I thought it would be interesting to compare the numbers for different countries. Using the same data set, I made some figures to visualize the differences between countries.



The map below shows the total C visa refusal rate for each country with at least one Schengen consulate. I have set the maximum value to 30% even though some countries are significantly above that. There is obviously something strange going on with some of the Schengen countries themselves (For instance Denmark and Sweden has the highest refusal rates of all but there only a few hundred of them and they are almost all from the Norwegian consulates.), but apart from that I think this gives a general idea of how applicants from different countries are viewed on an aggregate level.



Total C visa refusal rate for all Schengen countries



Below is a similar map but only for Swedish consulates. Obviously there are much fewer consulates so this may not add so much information compared to the previous one. The differences may be more noise than signal.



Total C visa refusal rate for Swedish consulates



Of course, as was pointed out by pnuts, we cannot know how many of these visa refusals were due to "lack of ties". We also don't know anything about the "quality" of applications from different countries, i.e. the applicants' individual circumstances and how well they were documented. Hence, these statistics cannot necessarily answer my question directly.



Finally, I made a figure showing the refusal rate for each country from all the individual Schengen countries.



enter image description here






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  • You seem to accept, this does not answer your question.
    – pnuts
    Feb 6 '17 at 20:19















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After seeing the numbers in Gayot Fow's answer I thought it would be interesting to compare the numbers for different countries. Using the same data set, I made some figures to visualize the differences between countries.



The map below shows the total C visa refusal rate for each country with at least one Schengen consulate. I have set the maximum value to 30% even though some countries are significantly above that. There is obviously something strange going on with some of the Schengen countries themselves (For instance Denmark and Sweden has the highest refusal rates of all but there only a few hundred of them and they are almost all from the Norwegian consulates.), but apart from that I think this gives a general idea of how applicants from different countries are viewed on an aggregate level.



Total C visa refusal rate for all Schengen countries



Below is a similar map but only for Swedish consulates. Obviously there are much fewer consulates so this may not add so much information compared to the previous one. The differences may be more noise than signal.



Total C visa refusal rate for Swedish consulates



Of course, as was pointed out by pnuts, we cannot know how many of these visa refusals were due to "lack of ties". We also don't know anything about the "quality" of applications from different countries, i.e. the applicants' individual circumstances and how well they were documented. Hence, these statistics cannot necessarily answer my question directly.



Finally, I made a figure showing the refusal rate for each country from all the individual Schengen countries.



enter image description here






share|improve this answer






















  • You seem to accept, this does not answer your question.
    – pnuts
    Feb 6 '17 at 20:19













1












1








1






After seeing the numbers in Gayot Fow's answer I thought it would be interesting to compare the numbers for different countries. Using the same data set, I made some figures to visualize the differences between countries.



The map below shows the total C visa refusal rate for each country with at least one Schengen consulate. I have set the maximum value to 30% even though some countries are significantly above that. There is obviously something strange going on with some of the Schengen countries themselves (For instance Denmark and Sweden has the highest refusal rates of all but there only a few hundred of them and they are almost all from the Norwegian consulates.), but apart from that I think this gives a general idea of how applicants from different countries are viewed on an aggregate level.



Total C visa refusal rate for all Schengen countries



Below is a similar map but only for Swedish consulates. Obviously there are much fewer consulates so this may not add so much information compared to the previous one. The differences may be more noise than signal.



Total C visa refusal rate for Swedish consulates



Of course, as was pointed out by pnuts, we cannot know how many of these visa refusals were due to "lack of ties". We also don't know anything about the "quality" of applications from different countries, i.e. the applicants' individual circumstances and how well they were documented. Hence, these statistics cannot necessarily answer my question directly.



Finally, I made a figure showing the refusal rate for each country from all the individual Schengen countries.



enter image description here






share|improve this answer














After seeing the numbers in Gayot Fow's answer I thought it would be interesting to compare the numbers for different countries. Using the same data set, I made some figures to visualize the differences between countries.



The map below shows the total C visa refusal rate for each country with at least one Schengen consulate. I have set the maximum value to 30% even though some countries are significantly above that. There is obviously something strange going on with some of the Schengen countries themselves (For instance Denmark and Sweden has the highest refusal rates of all but there only a few hundred of them and they are almost all from the Norwegian consulates.), but apart from that I think this gives a general idea of how applicants from different countries are viewed on an aggregate level.



Total C visa refusal rate for all Schengen countries



Below is a similar map but only for Swedish consulates. Obviously there are much fewer consulates so this may not add so much information compared to the previous one. The differences may be more noise than signal.



Total C visa refusal rate for Swedish consulates



Of course, as was pointed out by pnuts, we cannot know how many of these visa refusals were due to "lack of ties". We also don't know anything about the "quality" of applications from different countries, i.e. the applicants' individual circumstances and how well they were documented. Hence, these statistics cannot necessarily answer my question directly.



Finally, I made a figure showing the refusal rate for each country from all the individual Schengen countries.



enter image description here







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  • You seem to accept, this does not answer your question.
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    Feb 6 '17 at 20:19
















  • You seem to accept, this does not answer your question.
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    Feb 6 '17 at 20:19















You seem to accept, this does not answer your question.
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You seem to accept, this does not answer your question.
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