When travelling through Dagestan by car, how far can risks of crime, harassment or political/cultural trouble be managed?










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Is it currently safe to travel with a car through Dagestan?



The car has a Russian license plate and both of us travellers (one guy, one girl) look European (with dark hair in case this matters). The proposed route goes from Astrakhan along the coast of the Caspian sea to Lagan, Artezian, Kizlyar, Makhachkala, Derbent and on to Baku with a possible overnight stay in a hotel/guesthouse in Makhachkala.



Considering how close Chechnya and South Ossetia are, how safe would such a trip be?

What exactly are the political, ethnic or cultural problems and such possible risks, and how should one behave to reduce the risk of being a victim of crime or harassment?










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    FYI, some people had voted to close this question, presumably based on the title alone because you do explain what sorts of safety you're concerned about in the final paragraph. I've edited the title so it's super-obvious what sort of risk management you're asking about.
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  • @user568458 Thanks, although there seem to be hundreds of questions on this site which only consist of "Is it safe to travel in [insert region of choice]"
    – ahemmetter
    Apr 7 '17 at 18:25






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    From Smartraveller: "We strongly advise you not to travel to the North Caucasus, in particular the regions of Chechnya, Dagestan, [...]"
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    Apr 7 '17 at 18:27






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    @andynitrox I agree, it's a weird and horribly inconsistent policy. These are among the most interesting and useful questions on the site in my opinion. Ping me as well as mts if this does get closed and we'll try to reopen it as quickly as possible
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 21:34






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    Another potential problem is that, assuming you're foreigners, you're most probably not going to get any consular services while you're there, so you can't rely on your country's consulate if your passports or money are lost or stolen or anything else that goes wrong where you'd need consular assistance.
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Is it currently safe to travel with a car through Dagestan?



The car has a Russian license plate and both of us travellers (one guy, one girl) look European (with dark hair in case this matters). The proposed route goes from Astrakhan along the coast of the Caspian sea to Lagan, Artezian, Kizlyar, Makhachkala, Derbent and on to Baku with a possible overnight stay in a hotel/guesthouse in Makhachkala.



Considering how close Chechnya and South Ossetia are, how safe would such a trip be?

What exactly are the political, ethnic or cultural problems and such possible risks, and how should one behave to reduce the risk of being a victim of crime or harassment?










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    FYI, some people had voted to close this question, presumably based on the title alone because you do explain what sorts of safety you're concerned about in the final paragraph. I've edited the title so it's super-obvious what sort of risk management you're asking about.
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 17:31










  • @user568458 Thanks, although there seem to be hundreds of questions on this site which only consist of "Is it safe to travel in [insert region of choice]"
    – ahemmetter
    Apr 7 '17 at 18:25






  • 3




    From Smartraveller: "We strongly advise you not to travel to the North Caucasus, in particular the regions of Chechnya, Dagestan, [...]"
    – mts
    Apr 7 '17 at 18:27






  • 3




    @andynitrox I agree, it's a weird and horribly inconsistent policy. These are among the most interesting and useful questions on the site in my opinion. Ping me as well as mts if this does get closed and we'll try to reopen it as quickly as possible
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 21:34






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    Another potential problem is that, assuming you're foreigners, you're most probably not going to get any consular services while you're there, so you can't rely on your country's consulate if your passports or money are lost or stolen or anything else that goes wrong where you'd need consular assistance.
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Is it currently safe to travel with a car through Dagestan?



The car has a Russian license plate and both of us travellers (one guy, one girl) look European (with dark hair in case this matters). The proposed route goes from Astrakhan along the coast of the Caspian sea to Lagan, Artezian, Kizlyar, Makhachkala, Derbent and on to Baku with a possible overnight stay in a hotel/guesthouse in Makhachkala.



Considering how close Chechnya and South Ossetia are, how safe would such a trip be?

What exactly are the political, ethnic or cultural problems and such possible risks, and how should one behave to reduce the risk of being a victim of crime or harassment?










share|improve this question















Is it currently safe to travel with a car through Dagestan?



The car has a Russian license plate and both of us travellers (one guy, one girl) look European (with dark hair in case this matters). The proposed route goes from Astrakhan along the coast of the Caspian sea to Lagan, Artezian, Kizlyar, Makhachkala, Derbent and on to Baku with a possible overnight stay in a hotel/guesthouse in Makhachkala.



Considering how close Chechnya and South Ossetia are, how safe would such a trip be?

What exactly are the political, ethnic or cultural problems and such possible risks, and how should one behave to reduce the risk of being a victim of crime or harassment?







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    FYI, some people had voted to close this question, presumably based on the title alone because you do explain what sorts of safety you're concerned about in the final paragraph. I've edited the title so it's super-obvious what sort of risk management you're asking about.
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 17:31










  • @user568458 Thanks, although there seem to be hundreds of questions on this site which only consist of "Is it safe to travel in [insert region of choice]"
    – ahemmetter
    Apr 7 '17 at 18:25






  • 3




    From Smartraveller: "We strongly advise you not to travel to the North Caucasus, in particular the regions of Chechnya, Dagestan, [...]"
    – mts
    Apr 7 '17 at 18:27






  • 3




    @andynitrox I agree, it's a weird and horribly inconsistent policy. These are among the most interesting and useful questions on the site in my opinion. Ping me as well as mts if this does get closed and we'll try to reopen it as quickly as possible
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 21:34






  • 1




    Another potential problem is that, assuming you're foreigners, you're most probably not going to get any consular services while you're there, so you can't rely on your country's consulate if your passports or money are lost or stolen or anything else that goes wrong where you'd need consular assistance.
    – Zach Lipton
    Apr 8 '17 at 4:16












  • 2




    FYI, some people had voted to close this question, presumably based on the title alone because you do explain what sorts of safety you're concerned about in the final paragraph. I've edited the title so it's super-obvious what sort of risk management you're asking about.
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 17:31










  • @user568458 Thanks, although there seem to be hundreds of questions on this site which only consist of "Is it safe to travel in [insert region of choice]"
    – ahemmetter
    Apr 7 '17 at 18:25






  • 3




    From Smartraveller: "We strongly advise you not to travel to the North Caucasus, in particular the regions of Chechnya, Dagestan, [...]"
    – mts
    Apr 7 '17 at 18:27






  • 3




    @andynitrox I agree, it's a weird and horribly inconsistent policy. These are among the most interesting and useful questions on the site in my opinion. Ping me as well as mts if this does get closed and we'll try to reopen it as quickly as possible
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 21:34






  • 1




    Another potential problem is that, assuming you're foreigners, you're most probably not going to get any consular services while you're there, so you can't rely on your country's consulate if your passports or money are lost or stolen or anything else that goes wrong where you'd need consular assistance.
    – Zach Lipton
    Apr 8 '17 at 4:16







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FYI, some people had voted to close this question, presumably based on the title alone because you do explain what sorts of safety you're concerned about in the final paragraph. I've edited the title so it's super-obvious what sort of risk management you're asking about.
– user568458
Apr 7 '17 at 17:31




FYI, some people had voted to close this question, presumably based on the title alone because you do explain what sorts of safety you're concerned about in the final paragraph. I've edited the title so it's super-obvious what sort of risk management you're asking about.
– user568458
Apr 7 '17 at 17:31












@user568458 Thanks, although there seem to be hundreds of questions on this site which only consist of "Is it safe to travel in [insert region of choice]"
– ahemmetter
Apr 7 '17 at 18:25




@user568458 Thanks, although there seem to be hundreds of questions on this site which only consist of "Is it safe to travel in [insert region of choice]"
– ahemmetter
Apr 7 '17 at 18:25




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From Smartraveller: "We strongly advise you not to travel to the North Caucasus, in particular the regions of Chechnya, Dagestan, [...]"
– mts
Apr 7 '17 at 18:27




From Smartraveller: "We strongly advise you not to travel to the North Caucasus, in particular the regions of Chechnya, Dagestan, [...]"
– mts
Apr 7 '17 at 18:27




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@andynitrox I agree, it's a weird and horribly inconsistent policy. These are among the most interesting and useful questions on the site in my opinion. Ping me as well as mts if this does get closed and we'll try to reopen it as quickly as possible
– user568458
Apr 7 '17 at 21:34




@andynitrox I agree, it's a weird and horribly inconsistent policy. These are among the most interesting and useful questions on the site in my opinion. Ping me as well as mts if this does get closed and we'll try to reopen it as quickly as possible
– user568458
Apr 7 '17 at 21:34




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Another potential problem is that, assuming you're foreigners, you're most probably not going to get any consular services while you're there, so you can't rely on your country's consulate if your passports or money are lost or stolen or anything else that goes wrong where you'd need consular assistance.
– Zach Lipton
Apr 8 '17 at 4:16




Another potential problem is that, assuming you're foreigners, you're most probably not going to get any consular services while you're there, so you can't rely on your country's consulate if your passports or money are lost or stolen or anything else that goes wrong where you'd need consular assistance.
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This is challenging task, especially if you do not know the Russian. Moreover, it'd be considered as dangerous even for native Russians. North Caucasus is a place for unclaimed civil war for years, and each week something happen.



Here you may find unofficial news portal about current situation. In some cases the fact that you are tourist can help you, but in general it's not a place you should take a drive. If you can, find a local guide so some situation could be resolved, but if I were you, I wouldn't go there.



Even if you're European looking people, it will be easy to understand that you're not locals, as you probably do not have a beard, and your trip partner doesn't wear appropriate (from local point of view) women clothes. It's a high risk to became a victim of robbery, kidnapping or get a health damage.






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  • Great answer. My understanding is that Dagestan used to be considered one of the relatively safer North Caucasus republics, but since the crackdown in Chechnya, a lot of the trouble from there has spilled over and it's now one of the more dangerous. Does that sound right to you?
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    Yes, that's right. But I've been only once in Grozny (Chechnya' capital), and never have been in Dagestan, so it's only my opinion, as from official point of view it's a small bandit groups, and that's it
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Not safe at all. I don't know what's going on right now, but I remember seeing on news how local police cars were bombed, how someone drove a car to a police checkpoint and it exploded and how some random/police cars were shot near Mahachkala. Its usually local bands/rebels/boeviks from Dagestan/Chechnya and they usually target Russian police. However it doesn't mean you can be 100% safe. There are many cases of abduction/ransom even nowadays. Just be careful.






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I think you know that it is not safe because you had to ask this question...



Your government (Germany I believe?) can provide you the explicit answer. Always check your national travel advisories!!



On their website, in regards to Northern Caucaus, the German government specifically states:




Traveling to the North Caucasus
Federal District and adjacent regions is an indication of the
increased security risk. In particular, not necessarily required trips
to Ingushetia, Chechnya and Dagestan is strongly discouraged. In the
above mentioned regions there is a higher security risk due to
attacks, armed conflicts and kidnapping cases than in other Russian
parts of the country. Persons who travel to the above-mentioned
regions despite the high risks can expect only limited assistance from
the German Embassy in Moscow in the event of an emergency. Short-term
restrictions on the right of travel for foreigners can not be ruled
out.



Border traffic with Georgia and Azerbaijan The Dariali / Hoher Lars
border crossing on the A 301 ("Georgian Military Route"), which
connects North Ossetia (Russia) with Georgia, as well as the border
crossing between Samur on the border between Dagestan (Russia) and
Azerbaijan are now back for the international Travel opened. However,
capacity-related difficulties in crossing the border can not be ruled
out. An entry via the Georgian-Russian border into the Georgian
conflict areas Abkhazia and South Ossetia will continue to be punished
by the Georgian authorities as an illegal border crossing.



Regarding the security situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the
travel and security information of the Foreign Office for Georgia has
to be observed.




So, basically what they're trying to tell you is, do not go there unless it is essential. It is up to you to decide what is essential and if its worth the risk. Keep in mind that the German consulate in Moscow is very, very far away when you're sitting in a Dagestan jail or held for ransom. Just give it thought.



In regards to Georgia (and South Ossetia you asked about), as it is referenced by the Russian section above, the German government also specifically states:




Entry by land is possible via Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia.
Foreigners wishing to enter Russia from Georgia must use the Dariali /
Hoher Lars border crossing on the M3, the so-called "Georgian Army
Route". Capacity-related difficulties at border crossing and resulting
waiting times can not be excluded. Above all, however, the security
situation in the North Caucasus should be taken into account: Travel
to Ingushetia, Chechnya, Dagestan, North Ossetia and
Kabardino-Balkaria is strongly discouraged (see Travel and Security
Policy Russian Federation ).



South Ossetia and Abkhazia Travel to Abkhazia and South Ossetia and
the immediate vicinity of the conflict region are strongly
discouraged. Consular protection can not currently be granted to
German nationals for lack of access. Even the feasibility of a rescue
flight to these areas is not ensured in an emergency.



Entry into Georgia - defected areas of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from
Russia continues to be prosecuted by Georgian authorities as illegal
border crossing, South Ossetia is closed to international travel, the
administrative border with South Ossetia is restricted area, since the
2008 war there is an increased danger from mines and unexploded
ammunition.



Due to the unpredictable security situation near the administrative
borders, it is strongly recommended that the area be avoided or that
Georgian authorities obtain prior approval. Abkhazia and South
Ossetia are not under the control of the Georgian government. Russian
troops are stationed in the areas and at their administrative borders.
The situation in the conflict regions is currently stable, but it can
change at any time. Therefore, inform yourself about the local media.



The Georgian "Occupied Territories Act" prohibits travel, economic
activity, land acquisition or real estate, as well as other activities
in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, with few exceptions. Infringements can
result in fines or imprisonment of up to five years.



Also on later trips to Georgia threatens the refusal of entry, it
should emerge from the pass that previously an illegal entry into
Abkhazia or South Ossetia / Georgia has taken place. Therefore, it is
strongly advised to be informed about the relevant regulations in a
timely manner, and to obtain the necessary approval from the Georgian
government. The Georgian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Minister
of State for Reconciliation and Civil Equality provide information and
permission to enter the country .




I recently visited Krasnodar, Sochi, Maykop, Stavropol and Tbilisi/Stepstanminda Georgia which is not too terribly far from these areas you are asking about. My Russian fiancee works for one of the large oil companies in Russia and they send her to Krasnodar region for work often, and its completely not safe at all for her. They must be off the streets at sunset and she must cover her blonde hair, to avoid trouble. I traveled through Georgia this past January, in the snow, and many trucks were lined up, unable to move. Keep this in mind, that the weather can greatly impact any travel to the Northern Caucasus mountains.



I also know my country (USA) specifically states that any travel is forbidden to Dagestan. USA state department outlines it here:




North Caucasus (including Chechnya and Mount Elbrus)



Civil unrest and terrorist attacks continue throughout the North
Caucasus region including in Chechnya, North Ossetia, Ingushetia,
Dagestan, Stavropol, Karachayevo-Cherkessiya, and Kabardino-Balkariya.
Local gangs have kidnapped U.S. citizens and other foreigners for
ransom. There have been credible reports of arrest, torture, and
extrajudicial killing of gay men in Chechnya allegedly conducted by
Chechen regional authorities.



Do not attempt to climb Mount Elbrus, as travelers must pass close to
volatile and insecure areas of the North Caucasus region.



The U.S. government is unable to provide emergency services to U.S.
citizens traveling in the North Caucasus region, including Mount
Elbrus, as U.S. government employees are prohibited from traveling to
the region.



Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas.







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    This is challenging task, especially if you do not know the Russian. Moreover, it'd be considered as dangerous even for native Russians. North Caucasus is a place for unclaimed civil war for years, and each week something happen.



    Here you may find unofficial news portal about current situation. In some cases the fact that you are tourist can help you, but in general it's not a place you should take a drive. If you can, find a local guide so some situation could be resolved, but if I were you, I wouldn't go there.



    Even if you're European looking people, it will be easy to understand that you're not locals, as you probably do not have a beard, and your trip partner doesn't wear appropriate (from local point of view) women clothes. It's a high risk to became a victim of robbery, kidnapping or get a health damage.






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    • Great answer. My understanding is that Dagestan used to be considered one of the relatively safer North Caucasus republics, but since the crackdown in Chechnya, a lot of the trouble from there has spilled over and it's now one of the more dangerous. Does that sound right to you?
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      Yes, that's right. But I've been only once in Grozny (Chechnya' capital), and never have been in Dagestan, so it's only my opinion, as from official point of view it's a small bandit groups, and that's it
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    This is challenging task, especially if you do not know the Russian. Moreover, it'd be considered as dangerous even for native Russians. North Caucasus is a place for unclaimed civil war for years, and each week something happen.



    Here you may find unofficial news portal about current situation. In some cases the fact that you are tourist can help you, but in general it's not a place you should take a drive. If you can, find a local guide so some situation could be resolved, but if I were you, I wouldn't go there.



    Even if you're European looking people, it will be easy to understand that you're not locals, as you probably do not have a beard, and your trip partner doesn't wear appropriate (from local point of view) women clothes. It's a high risk to became a victim of robbery, kidnapping or get a health damage.






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    • Great answer. My understanding is that Dagestan used to be considered one of the relatively safer North Caucasus republics, but since the crackdown in Chechnya, a lot of the trouble from there has spilled over and it's now one of the more dangerous. Does that sound right to you?
      – user568458
      Apr 7 '17 at 21:37






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      Yes, that's right. But I've been only once in Grozny (Chechnya' capital), and never have been in Dagestan, so it's only my opinion, as from official point of view it's a small bandit groups, and that's it
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    This is challenging task, especially if you do not know the Russian. Moreover, it'd be considered as dangerous even for native Russians. North Caucasus is a place for unclaimed civil war for years, and each week something happen.



    Here you may find unofficial news portal about current situation. In some cases the fact that you are tourist can help you, but in general it's not a place you should take a drive. If you can, find a local guide so some situation could be resolved, but if I were you, I wouldn't go there.



    Even if you're European looking people, it will be easy to understand that you're not locals, as you probably do not have a beard, and your trip partner doesn't wear appropriate (from local point of view) women clothes. It's a high risk to became a victim of robbery, kidnapping or get a health damage.






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    This is challenging task, especially if you do not know the Russian. Moreover, it'd be considered as dangerous even for native Russians. North Caucasus is a place for unclaimed civil war for years, and each week something happen.



    Here you may find unofficial news portal about current situation. In some cases the fact that you are tourist can help you, but in general it's not a place you should take a drive. If you can, find a local guide so some situation could be resolved, but if I were you, I wouldn't go there.



    Even if you're European looking people, it will be easy to understand that you're not locals, as you probably do not have a beard, and your trip partner doesn't wear appropriate (from local point of view) women clothes. It's a high risk to became a victim of robbery, kidnapping or get a health damage.







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    • Great answer. My understanding is that Dagestan used to be considered one of the relatively safer North Caucasus republics, but since the crackdown in Chechnya, a lot of the trouble from there has spilled over and it's now one of the more dangerous. Does that sound right to you?
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      Yes, that's right. But I've been only once in Grozny (Chechnya' capital), and never have been in Dagestan, so it's only my opinion, as from official point of view it's a small bandit groups, and that's it
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    • I second the idea of a local guide. Better yet, have a local driver with his own car.
      – Alexander
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    • Great answer. My understanding is that Dagestan used to be considered one of the relatively safer North Caucasus republics, but since the crackdown in Chechnya, a lot of the trouble from there has spilled over and it's now one of the more dangerous. Does that sound right to you?
      – user568458
      Apr 7 '17 at 21:37






    • 1




      Yes, that's right. But I've been only once in Grozny (Chechnya' capital), and never have been in Dagestan, so it's only my opinion, as from official point of view it's a small bandit groups, and that's it
      – VMAtm
      Apr 7 '17 at 23:10










    • I second the idea of a local guide. Better yet, have a local driver with his own car.
      – Alexander
      Apr 7 '17 at 23:35















    Great answer. My understanding is that Dagestan used to be considered one of the relatively safer North Caucasus republics, but since the crackdown in Chechnya, a lot of the trouble from there has spilled over and it's now one of the more dangerous. Does that sound right to you?
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 21:37




    Great answer. My understanding is that Dagestan used to be considered one of the relatively safer North Caucasus republics, but since the crackdown in Chechnya, a lot of the trouble from there has spilled over and it's now one of the more dangerous. Does that sound right to you?
    – user568458
    Apr 7 '17 at 21:37




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    Yes, that's right. But I've been only once in Grozny (Chechnya' capital), and never have been in Dagestan, so it's only my opinion, as from official point of view it's a small bandit groups, and that's it
    – VMAtm
    Apr 7 '17 at 23:10




    Yes, that's right. But I've been only once in Grozny (Chechnya' capital), and never have been in Dagestan, so it's only my opinion, as from official point of view it's a small bandit groups, and that's it
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    I second the idea of a local guide. Better yet, have a local driver with his own car.
    – Alexander
    Apr 7 '17 at 23:35




    I second the idea of a local guide. Better yet, have a local driver with his own car.
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    Not safe at all. I don't know what's going on right now, but I remember seeing on news how local police cars were bombed, how someone drove a car to a police checkpoint and it exploded and how some random/police cars were shot near Mahachkala. Its usually local bands/rebels/boeviks from Dagestan/Chechnya and they usually target Russian police. However it doesn't mean you can be 100% safe. There are many cases of abduction/ransom even nowadays. Just be careful.






    share|improve this answer
















    • 1




      Just be careful - isn't enough at all
      – VMAtm
      Apr 9 '17 at 15:45















    5














    Not safe at all. I don't know what's going on right now, but I remember seeing on news how local police cars were bombed, how someone drove a car to a police checkpoint and it exploded and how some random/police cars were shot near Mahachkala. Its usually local bands/rebels/boeviks from Dagestan/Chechnya and they usually target Russian police. However it doesn't mean you can be 100% safe. There are many cases of abduction/ransom even nowadays. Just be careful.






    share|improve this answer
















    • 1




      Just be careful - isn't enough at all
      – VMAtm
      Apr 9 '17 at 15:45













    5












    5








    5






    Not safe at all. I don't know what's going on right now, but I remember seeing on news how local police cars were bombed, how someone drove a car to a police checkpoint and it exploded and how some random/police cars were shot near Mahachkala. Its usually local bands/rebels/boeviks from Dagestan/Chechnya and they usually target Russian police. However it doesn't mean you can be 100% safe. There are many cases of abduction/ransom even nowadays. Just be careful.






    share|improve this answer












    Not safe at all. I don't know what's going on right now, but I remember seeing on news how local police cars were bombed, how someone drove a car to a police checkpoint and it exploded and how some random/police cars were shot near Mahachkala. Its usually local bands/rebels/boeviks from Dagestan/Chechnya and they usually target Russian police. However it doesn't mean you can be 100% safe. There are many cases of abduction/ransom even nowadays. Just be careful.







    share|improve this answer












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    answered Apr 8 '17 at 4:08









    k1rushqa

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    • 1




      Just be careful - isn't enough at all
      – VMAtm
      Apr 9 '17 at 15:45












    • 1




      Just be careful - isn't enough at all
      – VMAtm
      Apr 9 '17 at 15:45







    1




    1




    Just be careful - isn't enough at all
    – VMAtm
    Apr 9 '17 at 15:45




    Just be careful - isn't enough at all
    – VMAtm
    Apr 9 '17 at 15:45











    -1














    I think you know that it is not safe because you had to ask this question...



    Your government (Germany I believe?) can provide you the explicit answer. Always check your national travel advisories!!



    On their website, in regards to Northern Caucaus, the German government specifically states:




    Traveling to the North Caucasus
    Federal District and adjacent regions is an indication of the
    increased security risk. In particular, not necessarily required trips
    to Ingushetia, Chechnya and Dagestan is strongly discouraged. In the
    above mentioned regions there is a higher security risk due to
    attacks, armed conflicts and kidnapping cases than in other Russian
    parts of the country. Persons who travel to the above-mentioned
    regions despite the high risks can expect only limited assistance from
    the German Embassy in Moscow in the event of an emergency. Short-term
    restrictions on the right of travel for foreigners can not be ruled
    out.



    Border traffic with Georgia and Azerbaijan The Dariali / Hoher Lars
    border crossing on the A 301 ("Georgian Military Route"), which
    connects North Ossetia (Russia) with Georgia, as well as the border
    crossing between Samur on the border between Dagestan (Russia) and
    Azerbaijan are now back for the international Travel opened. However,
    capacity-related difficulties in crossing the border can not be ruled
    out. An entry via the Georgian-Russian border into the Georgian
    conflict areas Abkhazia and South Ossetia will continue to be punished
    by the Georgian authorities as an illegal border crossing.



    Regarding the security situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the
    travel and security information of the Foreign Office for Georgia has
    to be observed.




    So, basically what they're trying to tell you is, do not go there unless it is essential. It is up to you to decide what is essential and if its worth the risk. Keep in mind that the German consulate in Moscow is very, very far away when you're sitting in a Dagestan jail or held for ransom. Just give it thought.



    In regards to Georgia (and South Ossetia you asked about), as it is referenced by the Russian section above, the German government also specifically states:




    Entry by land is possible via Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia.
    Foreigners wishing to enter Russia from Georgia must use the Dariali /
    Hoher Lars border crossing on the M3, the so-called "Georgian Army
    Route". Capacity-related difficulties at border crossing and resulting
    waiting times can not be excluded. Above all, however, the security
    situation in the North Caucasus should be taken into account: Travel
    to Ingushetia, Chechnya, Dagestan, North Ossetia and
    Kabardino-Balkaria is strongly discouraged (see Travel and Security
    Policy Russian Federation ).



    South Ossetia and Abkhazia Travel to Abkhazia and South Ossetia and
    the immediate vicinity of the conflict region are strongly
    discouraged. Consular protection can not currently be granted to
    German nationals for lack of access. Even the feasibility of a rescue
    flight to these areas is not ensured in an emergency.



    Entry into Georgia - defected areas of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from
    Russia continues to be prosecuted by Georgian authorities as illegal
    border crossing, South Ossetia is closed to international travel, the
    administrative border with South Ossetia is restricted area, since the
    2008 war there is an increased danger from mines and unexploded
    ammunition.



    Due to the unpredictable security situation near the administrative
    borders, it is strongly recommended that the area be avoided or that
    Georgian authorities obtain prior approval. Abkhazia and South
    Ossetia are not under the control of the Georgian government. Russian
    troops are stationed in the areas and at their administrative borders.
    The situation in the conflict regions is currently stable, but it can
    change at any time. Therefore, inform yourself about the local media.



    The Georgian "Occupied Territories Act" prohibits travel, economic
    activity, land acquisition or real estate, as well as other activities
    in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, with few exceptions. Infringements can
    result in fines or imprisonment of up to five years.



    Also on later trips to Georgia threatens the refusal of entry, it
    should emerge from the pass that previously an illegal entry into
    Abkhazia or South Ossetia / Georgia has taken place. Therefore, it is
    strongly advised to be informed about the relevant regulations in a
    timely manner, and to obtain the necessary approval from the Georgian
    government. The Georgian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Minister
    of State for Reconciliation and Civil Equality provide information and
    permission to enter the country .




    I recently visited Krasnodar, Sochi, Maykop, Stavropol and Tbilisi/Stepstanminda Georgia which is not too terribly far from these areas you are asking about. My Russian fiancee works for one of the large oil companies in Russia and they send her to Krasnodar region for work often, and its completely not safe at all for her. They must be off the streets at sunset and she must cover her blonde hair, to avoid trouble. I traveled through Georgia this past January, in the snow, and many trucks were lined up, unable to move. Keep this in mind, that the weather can greatly impact any travel to the Northern Caucasus mountains.



    I also know my country (USA) specifically states that any travel is forbidden to Dagestan. USA state department outlines it here:




    North Caucasus (including Chechnya and Mount Elbrus)



    Civil unrest and terrorist attacks continue throughout the North
    Caucasus region including in Chechnya, North Ossetia, Ingushetia,
    Dagestan, Stavropol, Karachayevo-Cherkessiya, and Kabardino-Balkariya.
    Local gangs have kidnapped U.S. citizens and other foreigners for
    ransom. There have been credible reports of arrest, torture, and
    extrajudicial killing of gay men in Chechnya allegedly conducted by
    Chechen regional authorities.



    Do not attempt to climb Mount Elbrus, as travelers must pass close to
    volatile and insecure areas of the North Caucasus region.



    The U.S. government is unable to provide emergency services to U.S.
    citizens traveling in the North Caucasus region, including Mount
    Elbrus, as U.S. government employees are prohibited from traveling to
    the region.



    Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas.







    share|improve this answer

























      -1














      I think you know that it is not safe because you had to ask this question...



      Your government (Germany I believe?) can provide you the explicit answer. Always check your national travel advisories!!



      On their website, in regards to Northern Caucaus, the German government specifically states:




      Traveling to the North Caucasus
      Federal District and adjacent regions is an indication of the
      increased security risk. In particular, not necessarily required trips
      to Ingushetia, Chechnya and Dagestan is strongly discouraged. In the
      above mentioned regions there is a higher security risk due to
      attacks, armed conflicts and kidnapping cases than in other Russian
      parts of the country. Persons who travel to the above-mentioned
      regions despite the high risks can expect only limited assistance from
      the German Embassy in Moscow in the event of an emergency. Short-term
      restrictions on the right of travel for foreigners can not be ruled
      out.



      Border traffic with Georgia and Azerbaijan The Dariali / Hoher Lars
      border crossing on the A 301 ("Georgian Military Route"), which
      connects North Ossetia (Russia) with Georgia, as well as the border
      crossing between Samur on the border between Dagestan (Russia) and
      Azerbaijan are now back for the international Travel opened. However,
      capacity-related difficulties in crossing the border can not be ruled
      out. An entry via the Georgian-Russian border into the Georgian
      conflict areas Abkhazia and South Ossetia will continue to be punished
      by the Georgian authorities as an illegal border crossing.



      Regarding the security situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the
      travel and security information of the Foreign Office for Georgia has
      to be observed.




      So, basically what they're trying to tell you is, do not go there unless it is essential. It is up to you to decide what is essential and if its worth the risk. Keep in mind that the German consulate in Moscow is very, very far away when you're sitting in a Dagestan jail or held for ransom. Just give it thought.



      In regards to Georgia (and South Ossetia you asked about), as it is referenced by the Russian section above, the German government also specifically states:




      Entry by land is possible via Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia.
      Foreigners wishing to enter Russia from Georgia must use the Dariali /
      Hoher Lars border crossing on the M3, the so-called "Georgian Army
      Route". Capacity-related difficulties at border crossing and resulting
      waiting times can not be excluded. Above all, however, the security
      situation in the North Caucasus should be taken into account: Travel
      to Ingushetia, Chechnya, Dagestan, North Ossetia and
      Kabardino-Balkaria is strongly discouraged (see Travel and Security
      Policy Russian Federation ).



      South Ossetia and Abkhazia Travel to Abkhazia and South Ossetia and
      the immediate vicinity of the conflict region are strongly
      discouraged. Consular protection can not currently be granted to
      German nationals for lack of access. Even the feasibility of a rescue
      flight to these areas is not ensured in an emergency.



      Entry into Georgia - defected areas of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from
      Russia continues to be prosecuted by Georgian authorities as illegal
      border crossing, South Ossetia is closed to international travel, the
      administrative border with South Ossetia is restricted area, since the
      2008 war there is an increased danger from mines and unexploded
      ammunition.



      Due to the unpredictable security situation near the administrative
      borders, it is strongly recommended that the area be avoided or that
      Georgian authorities obtain prior approval. Abkhazia and South
      Ossetia are not under the control of the Georgian government. Russian
      troops are stationed in the areas and at their administrative borders.
      The situation in the conflict regions is currently stable, but it can
      change at any time. Therefore, inform yourself about the local media.



      The Georgian "Occupied Territories Act" prohibits travel, economic
      activity, land acquisition or real estate, as well as other activities
      in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, with few exceptions. Infringements can
      result in fines or imprisonment of up to five years.



      Also on later trips to Georgia threatens the refusal of entry, it
      should emerge from the pass that previously an illegal entry into
      Abkhazia or South Ossetia / Georgia has taken place. Therefore, it is
      strongly advised to be informed about the relevant regulations in a
      timely manner, and to obtain the necessary approval from the Georgian
      government. The Georgian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Minister
      of State for Reconciliation and Civil Equality provide information and
      permission to enter the country .




      I recently visited Krasnodar, Sochi, Maykop, Stavropol and Tbilisi/Stepstanminda Georgia which is not too terribly far from these areas you are asking about. My Russian fiancee works for one of the large oil companies in Russia and they send her to Krasnodar region for work often, and its completely not safe at all for her. They must be off the streets at sunset and she must cover her blonde hair, to avoid trouble. I traveled through Georgia this past January, in the snow, and many trucks were lined up, unable to move. Keep this in mind, that the weather can greatly impact any travel to the Northern Caucasus mountains.



      I also know my country (USA) specifically states that any travel is forbidden to Dagestan. USA state department outlines it here:




      North Caucasus (including Chechnya and Mount Elbrus)



      Civil unrest and terrorist attacks continue throughout the North
      Caucasus region including in Chechnya, North Ossetia, Ingushetia,
      Dagestan, Stavropol, Karachayevo-Cherkessiya, and Kabardino-Balkariya.
      Local gangs have kidnapped U.S. citizens and other foreigners for
      ransom. There have been credible reports of arrest, torture, and
      extrajudicial killing of gay men in Chechnya allegedly conducted by
      Chechen regional authorities.



      Do not attempt to climb Mount Elbrus, as travelers must pass close to
      volatile and insecure areas of the North Caucasus region.



      The U.S. government is unable to provide emergency services to U.S.
      citizens traveling in the North Caucasus region, including Mount
      Elbrus, as U.S. government employees are prohibited from traveling to
      the region.



      Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas.







      share|improve this answer























        -1












        -1








        -1






        I think you know that it is not safe because you had to ask this question...



        Your government (Germany I believe?) can provide you the explicit answer. Always check your national travel advisories!!



        On their website, in regards to Northern Caucaus, the German government specifically states:




        Traveling to the North Caucasus
        Federal District and adjacent regions is an indication of the
        increased security risk. In particular, not necessarily required trips
        to Ingushetia, Chechnya and Dagestan is strongly discouraged. In the
        above mentioned regions there is a higher security risk due to
        attacks, armed conflicts and kidnapping cases than in other Russian
        parts of the country. Persons who travel to the above-mentioned
        regions despite the high risks can expect only limited assistance from
        the German Embassy in Moscow in the event of an emergency. Short-term
        restrictions on the right of travel for foreigners can not be ruled
        out.



        Border traffic with Georgia and Azerbaijan The Dariali / Hoher Lars
        border crossing on the A 301 ("Georgian Military Route"), which
        connects North Ossetia (Russia) with Georgia, as well as the border
        crossing between Samur on the border between Dagestan (Russia) and
        Azerbaijan are now back for the international Travel opened. However,
        capacity-related difficulties in crossing the border can not be ruled
        out. An entry via the Georgian-Russian border into the Georgian
        conflict areas Abkhazia and South Ossetia will continue to be punished
        by the Georgian authorities as an illegal border crossing.



        Regarding the security situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the
        travel and security information of the Foreign Office for Georgia has
        to be observed.




        So, basically what they're trying to tell you is, do not go there unless it is essential. It is up to you to decide what is essential and if its worth the risk. Keep in mind that the German consulate in Moscow is very, very far away when you're sitting in a Dagestan jail or held for ransom. Just give it thought.



        In regards to Georgia (and South Ossetia you asked about), as it is referenced by the Russian section above, the German government also specifically states:




        Entry by land is possible via Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia.
        Foreigners wishing to enter Russia from Georgia must use the Dariali /
        Hoher Lars border crossing on the M3, the so-called "Georgian Army
        Route". Capacity-related difficulties at border crossing and resulting
        waiting times can not be excluded. Above all, however, the security
        situation in the North Caucasus should be taken into account: Travel
        to Ingushetia, Chechnya, Dagestan, North Ossetia and
        Kabardino-Balkaria is strongly discouraged (see Travel and Security
        Policy Russian Federation ).



        South Ossetia and Abkhazia Travel to Abkhazia and South Ossetia and
        the immediate vicinity of the conflict region are strongly
        discouraged. Consular protection can not currently be granted to
        German nationals for lack of access. Even the feasibility of a rescue
        flight to these areas is not ensured in an emergency.



        Entry into Georgia - defected areas of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from
        Russia continues to be prosecuted by Georgian authorities as illegal
        border crossing, South Ossetia is closed to international travel, the
        administrative border with South Ossetia is restricted area, since the
        2008 war there is an increased danger from mines and unexploded
        ammunition.



        Due to the unpredictable security situation near the administrative
        borders, it is strongly recommended that the area be avoided or that
        Georgian authorities obtain prior approval. Abkhazia and South
        Ossetia are not under the control of the Georgian government. Russian
        troops are stationed in the areas and at their administrative borders.
        The situation in the conflict regions is currently stable, but it can
        change at any time. Therefore, inform yourself about the local media.



        The Georgian "Occupied Territories Act" prohibits travel, economic
        activity, land acquisition or real estate, as well as other activities
        in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, with few exceptions. Infringements can
        result in fines or imprisonment of up to five years.



        Also on later trips to Georgia threatens the refusal of entry, it
        should emerge from the pass that previously an illegal entry into
        Abkhazia or South Ossetia / Georgia has taken place. Therefore, it is
        strongly advised to be informed about the relevant regulations in a
        timely manner, and to obtain the necessary approval from the Georgian
        government. The Georgian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Minister
        of State for Reconciliation and Civil Equality provide information and
        permission to enter the country .




        I recently visited Krasnodar, Sochi, Maykop, Stavropol and Tbilisi/Stepstanminda Georgia which is not too terribly far from these areas you are asking about. My Russian fiancee works for one of the large oil companies in Russia and they send her to Krasnodar region for work often, and its completely not safe at all for her. They must be off the streets at sunset and she must cover her blonde hair, to avoid trouble. I traveled through Georgia this past January, in the snow, and many trucks were lined up, unable to move. Keep this in mind, that the weather can greatly impact any travel to the Northern Caucasus mountains.



        I also know my country (USA) specifically states that any travel is forbidden to Dagestan. USA state department outlines it here:




        North Caucasus (including Chechnya and Mount Elbrus)



        Civil unrest and terrorist attacks continue throughout the North
        Caucasus region including in Chechnya, North Ossetia, Ingushetia,
        Dagestan, Stavropol, Karachayevo-Cherkessiya, and Kabardino-Balkariya.
        Local gangs have kidnapped U.S. citizens and other foreigners for
        ransom. There have been credible reports of arrest, torture, and
        extrajudicial killing of gay men in Chechnya allegedly conducted by
        Chechen regional authorities.



        Do not attempt to climb Mount Elbrus, as travelers must pass close to
        volatile and insecure areas of the North Caucasus region.



        The U.S. government is unable to provide emergency services to U.S.
        citizens traveling in the North Caucasus region, including Mount
        Elbrus, as U.S. government employees are prohibited from traveling to
        the region.



        Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas.







        share|improve this answer












        I think you know that it is not safe because you had to ask this question...



        Your government (Germany I believe?) can provide you the explicit answer. Always check your national travel advisories!!



        On their website, in regards to Northern Caucaus, the German government specifically states:




        Traveling to the North Caucasus
        Federal District and adjacent regions is an indication of the
        increased security risk. In particular, not necessarily required trips
        to Ingushetia, Chechnya and Dagestan is strongly discouraged. In the
        above mentioned regions there is a higher security risk due to
        attacks, armed conflicts and kidnapping cases than in other Russian
        parts of the country. Persons who travel to the above-mentioned
        regions despite the high risks can expect only limited assistance from
        the German Embassy in Moscow in the event of an emergency. Short-term
        restrictions on the right of travel for foreigners can not be ruled
        out.



        Border traffic with Georgia and Azerbaijan The Dariali / Hoher Lars
        border crossing on the A 301 ("Georgian Military Route"), which
        connects North Ossetia (Russia) with Georgia, as well as the border
        crossing between Samur on the border between Dagestan (Russia) and
        Azerbaijan are now back for the international Travel opened. However,
        capacity-related difficulties in crossing the border can not be ruled
        out. An entry via the Georgian-Russian border into the Georgian
        conflict areas Abkhazia and South Ossetia will continue to be punished
        by the Georgian authorities as an illegal border crossing.



        Regarding the security situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia, the
        travel and security information of the Foreign Office for Georgia has
        to be observed.




        So, basically what they're trying to tell you is, do not go there unless it is essential. It is up to you to decide what is essential and if its worth the risk. Keep in mind that the German consulate in Moscow is very, very far away when you're sitting in a Dagestan jail or held for ransom. Just give it thought.



        In regards to Georgia (and South Ossetia you asked about), as it is referenced by the Russian section above, the German government also specifically states:




        Entry by land is possible via Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Russia.
        Foreigners wishing to enter Russia from Georgia must use the Dariali /
        Hoher Lars border crossing on the M3, the so-called "Georgian Army
        Route". Capacity-related difficulties at border crossing and resulting
        waiting times can not be excluded. Above all, however, the security
        situation in the North Caucasus should be taken into account: Travel
        to Ingushetia, Chechnya, Dagestan, North Ossetia and
        Kabardino-Balkaria is strongly discouraged (see Travel and Security
        Policy Russian Federation ).



        South Ossetia and Abkhazia Travel to Abkhazia and South Ossetia and
        the immediate vicinity of the conflict region are strongly
        discouraged. Consular protection can not currently be granted to
        German nationals for lack of access. Even the feasibility of a rescue
        flight to these areas is not ensured in an emergency.



        Entry into Georgia - defected areas of Abkhazia and South Ossetia from
        Russia continues to be prosecuted by Georgian authorities as illegal
        border crossing, South Ossetia is closed to international travel, the
        administrative border with South Ossetia is restricted area, since the
        2008 war there is an increased danger from mines and unexploded
        ammunition.



        Due to the unpredictable security situation near the administrative
        borders, it is strongly recommended that the area be avoided or that
        Georgian authorities obtain prior approval. Abkhazia and South
        Ossetia are not under the control of the Georgian government. Russian
        troops are stationed in the areas and at their administrative borders.
        The situation in the conflict regions is currently stable, but it can
        change at any time. Therefore, inform yourself about the local media.



        The Georgian "Occupied Territories Act" prohibits travel, economic
        activity, land acquisition or real estate, as well as other activities
        in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, with few exceptions. Infringements can
        result in fines or imprisonment of up to five years.



        Also on later trips to Georgia threatens the refusal of entry, it
        should emerge from the pass that previously an illegal entry into
        Abkhazia or South Ossetia / Georgia has taken place. Therefore, it is
        strongly advised to be informed about the relevant regulations in a
        timely manner, and to obtain the necessary approval from the Georgian
        government. The Georgian Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the Minister
        of State for Reconciliation and Civil Equality provide information and
        permission to enter the country .




        I recently visited Krasnodar, Sochi, Maykop, Stavropol and Tbilisi/Stepstanminda Georgia which is not too terribly far from these areas you are asking about. My Russian fiancee works for one of the large oil companies in Russia and they send her to Krasnodar region for work often, and its completely not safe at all for her. They must be off the streets at sunset and she must cover her blonde hair, to avoid trouble. I traveled through Georgia this past January, in the snow, and many trucks were lined up, unable to move. Keep this in mind, that the weather can greatly impact any travel to the Northern Caucasus mountains.



        I also know my country (USA) specifically states that any travel is forbidden to Dagestan. USA state department outlines it here:




        North Caucasus (including Chechnya and Mount Elbrus)



        Civil unrest and terrorist attacks continue throughout the North
        Caucasus region including in Chechnya, North Ossetia, Ingushetia,
        Dagestan, Stavropol, Karachayevo-Cherkessiya, and Kabardino-Balkariya.
        Local gangs have kidnapped U.S. citizens and other foreigners for
        ransom. There have been credible reports of arrest, torture, and
        extrajudicial killing of gay men in Chechnya allegedly conducted by
        Chechen regional authorities.



        Do not attempt to climb Mount Elbrus, as travelers must pass close to
        volatile and insecure areas of the North Caucasus region.



        The U.S. government is unable to provide emergency services to U.S.
        citizens traveling in the North Caucasus region, including Mount
        Elbrus, as U.S. government employees are prohibited from traveling to
        the region.



        Visit our website for Travel to High-Risk Areas.








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