Is there ever any difference between using just a `foreign_key=` vs `foreign_key_id=` in Django's ORM?










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There does not appear to be a difference between the following:



ModelA.objects.filter(modelb_id=a_model_id)
ModelA.objects.filter(modelb=a_model_id)


Printing out the SQL that Django generates for both cases shows that it is the same. However, I haven't been able to find this officially documented anywhere, and I'm therefore concerned that there may be some case where using just modelb might result in something different from modelb_id.



I'm especially interested in someone pointing me to an official source that confirms these things are equivalent.










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    There does not appear to be a difference between the following:



    ModelA.objects.filter(modelb_id=a_model_id)
    ModelA.objects.filter(modelb=a_model_id)


    Printing out the SQL that Django generates for both cases shows that it is the same. However, I haven't been able to find this officially documented anywhere, and I'm therefore concerned that there may be some case where using just modelb might result in something different from modelb_id.



    I'm especially interested in someone pointing me to an official source that confirms these things are equivalent.










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      There does not appear to be a difference between the following:



      ModelA.objects.filter(modelb_id=a_model_id)
      ModelA.objects.filter(modelb=a_model_id)


      Printing out the SQL that Django generates for both cases shows that it is the same. However, I haven't been able to find this officially documented anywhere, and I'm therefore concerned that there may be some case where using just modelb might result in something different from modelb_id.



      I'm especially interested in someone pointing me to an official source that confirms these things are equivalent.










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      There does not appear to be a difference between the following:



      ModelA.objects.filter(modelb_id=a_model_id)
      ModelA.objects.filter(modelb=a_model_id)


      Printing out the SQL that Django generates for both cases shows that it is the same. However, I haven't been able to find this officially documented anywhere, and I'm therefore concerned that there may be some case where using just modelb might result in something different from modelb_id.



      I'm especially interested in someone pointing me to an official source that confirms these things are equivalent.







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          TLDR: It's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use model field names.




          Database Representation



          Behind the scenes, Django appends "_id" to the field name to create its database column name. In the above example, the database table for the Car model will have a manufacturer_id column. (You can change this explicitly by specifying db_column) However, your code should never have to deal with the database column name, unless you write custom SQL. You’ll always deal with the field names of your model object. Reference




          Model fields subclass django.db.models.fields.Field. The Field class has an attname field which is documented internally in the source code as the way to resolve the attribute to use on the model object.



          # A guide to Field parameters:
          #
          # * name: The name of the field specified in the model.
          # * attname: The attribute to use on the model object. This is the same as
          # "name", except in the case of ForeignKeys, where "_id" is
          # appended.
          # * db_column: The db_column specified in the model (or None).
          # * column: The database column for this field. This is the same as
          # "attname", except if db_column is specified.
          #
          # Code that introspects values, or does other dynamic things, should use
          # attname. For example, this gets the primary key value of object "obj":
          #
          # getattr(obj, opts.pk.attname)


          As part of the execution flow to converting the QuerySet.filter names in the kwargs for the compiled SQL query, the names are translated to PathInfo tuples containing the model fields for the respective names.



          On Line 1354 for django.db.models.sql.query.Query, is the following line:



          field = opts.get_field(name)


          Now opts is an instance of django.db.models.options.Options and the get_field method delegates to _forward_fields_map or fields_map cached properties.



          When you look at the implementation of those two properties, you see that they return a dictionary mapping field.name to field together with field.attname to field.



          This makes it so that modelb_id or modelb resolves to the model field from either of the cached properties.



          In my opinion, it doesn't matter that modelb_id or modelb is passed as a keyword argument to QuerySet.filter. Only that the former keyword requires knowledge of an implementation detail.



          However it's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use the model field names.






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            TLDR: It's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use model field names.




            Database Representation



            Behind the scenes, Django appends "_id" to the field name to create its database column name. In the above example, the database table for the Car model will have a manufacturer_id column. (You can change this explicitly by specifying db_column) However, your code should never have to deal with the database column name, unless you write custom SQL. You’ll always deal with the field names of your model object. Reference




            Model fields subclass django.db.models.fields.Field. The Field class has an attname field which is documented internally in the source code as the way to resolve the attribute to use on the model object.



            # A guide to Field parameters:
            #
            # * name: The name of the field specified in the model.
            # * attname: The attribute to use on the model object. This is the same as
            # "name", except in the case of ForeignKeys, where "_id" is
            # appended.
            # * db_column: The db_column specified in the model (or None).
            # * column: The database column for this field. This is the same as
            # "attname", except if db_column is specified.
            #
            # Code that introspects values, or does other dynamic things, should use
            # attname. For example, this gets the primary key value of object "obj":
            #
            # getattr(obj, opts.pk.attname)


            As part of the execution flow to converting the QuerySet.filter names in the kwargs for the compiled SQL query, the names are translated to PathInfo tuples containing the model fields for the respective names.



            On Line 1354 for django.db.models.sql.query.Query, is the following line:



            field = opts.get_field(name)


            Now opts is an instance of django.db.models.options.Options and the get_field method delegates to _forward_fields_map or fields_map cached properties.



            When you look at the implementation of those two properties, you see that they return a dictionary mapping field.name to field together with field.attname to field.



            This makes it so that modelb_id or modelb resolves to the model field from either of the cached properties.



            In my opinion, it doesn't matter that modelb_id or modelb is passed as a keyword argument to QuerySet.filter. Only that the former keyword requires knowledge of an implementation detail.



            However it's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use the model field names.






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              TLDR: It's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use model field names.




              Database Representation



              Behind the scenes, Django appends "_id" to the field name to create its database column name. In the above example, the database table for the Car model will have a manufacturer_id column. (You can change this explicitly by specifying db_column) However, your code should never have to deal with the database column name, unless you write custom SQL. You’ll always deal with the field names of your model object. Reference




              Model fields subclass django.db.models.fields.Field. The Field class has an attname field which is documented internally in the source code as the way to resolve the attribute to use on the model object.



              # A guide to Field parameters:
              #
              # * name: The name of the field specified in the model.
              # * attname: The attribute to use on the model object. This is the same as
              # "name", except in the case of ForeignKeys, where "_id" is
              # appended.
              # * db_column: The db_column specified in the model (or None).
              # * column: The database column for this field. This is the same as
              # "attname", except if db_column is specified.
              #
              # Code that introspects values, or does other dynamic things, should use
              # attname. For example, this gets the primary key value of object "obj":
              #
              # getattr(obj, opts.pk.attname)


              As part of the execution flow to converting the QuerySet.filter names in the kwargs for the compiled SQL query, the names are translated to PathInfo tuples containing the model fields for the respective names.



              On Line 1354 for django.db.models.sql.query.Query, is the following line:



              field = opts.get_field(name)


              Now opts is an instance of django.db.models.options.Options and the get_field method delegates to _forward_fields_map or fields_map cached properties.



              When you look at the implementation of those two properties, you see that they return a dictionary mapping field.name to field together with field.attname to field.



              This makes it so that modelb_id or modelb resolves to the model field from either of the cached properties.



              In my opinion, it doesn't matter that modelb_id or modelb is passed as a keyword argument to QuerySet.filter. Only that the former keyword requires knowledge of an implementation detail.



              However it's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use the model field names.






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                TLDR: It's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use model field names.




                Database Representation



                Behind the scenes, Django appends "_id" to the field name to create its database column name. In the above example, the database table for the Car model will have a manufacturer_id column. (You can change this explicitly by specifying db_column) However, your code should never have to deal with the database column name, unless you write custom SQL. You’ll always deal with the field names of your model object. Reference




                Model fields subclass django.db.models.fields.Field. The Field class has an attname field which is documented internally in the source code as the way to resolve the attribute to use on the model object.



                # A guide to Field parameters:
                #
                # * name: The name of the field specified in the model.
                # * attname: The attribute to use on the model object. This is the same as
                # "name", except in the case of ForeignKeys, where "_id" is
                # appended.
                # * db_column: The db_column specified in the model (or None).
                # * column: The database column for this field. This is the same as
                # "attname", except if db_column is specified.
                #
                # Code that introspects values, or does other dynamic things, should use
                # attname. For example, this gets the primary key value of object "obj":
                #
                # getattr(obj, opts.pk.attname)


                As part of the execution flow to converting the QuerySet.filter names in the kwargs for the compiled SQL query, the names are translated to PathInfo tuples containing the model fields for the respective names.



                On Line 1354 for django.db.models.sql.query.Query, is the following line:



                field = opts.get_field(name)


                Now opts is an instance of django.db.models.options.Options and the get_field method delegates to _forward_fields_map or fields_map cached properties.



                When you look at the implementation of those two properties, you see that they return a dictionary mapping field.name to field together with field.attname to field.



                This makes it so that modelb_id or modelb resolves to the model field from either of the cached properties.



                In my opinion, it doesn't matter that modelb_id or modelb is passed as a keyword argument to QuerySet.filter. Only that the former keyword requires knowledge of an implementation detail.



                However it's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use the model field names.






                share|improve this answer














                TLDR: It's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use model field names.




                Database Representation



                Behind the scenes, Django appends "_id" to the field name to create its database column name. In the above example, the database table for the Car model will have a manufacturer_id column. (You can change this explicitly by specifying db_column) However, your code should never have to deal with the database column name, unless you write custom SQL. You’ll always deal with the field names of your model object. Reference




                Model fields subclass django.db.models.fields.Field. The Field class has an attname field which is documented internally in the source code as the way to resolve the attribute to use on the model object.



                # A guide to Field parameters:
                #
                # * name: The name of the field specified in the model.
                # * attname: The attribute to use on the model object. This is the same as
                # "name", except in the case of ForeignKeys, where "_id" is
                # appended.
                # * db_column: The db_column specified in the model (or None).
                # * column: The database column for this field. This is the same as
                # "attname", except if db_column is specified.
                #
                # Code that introspects values, or does other dynamic things, should use
                # attname. For example, this gets the primary key value of object "obj":
                #
                # getattr(obj, opts.pk.attname)


                As part of the execution flow to converting the QuerySet.filter names in the kwargs for the compiled SQL query, the names are translated to PathInfo tuples containing the model fields for the respective names.



                On Line 1354 for django.db.models.sql.query.Query, is the following line:



                field = opts.get_field(name)


                Now opts is an instance of django.db.models.options.Options and the get_field method delegates to _forward_fields_map or fields_map cached properties.



                When you look at the implementation of those two properties, you see that they return a dictionary mapping field.name to field together with field.attname to field.



                This makes it so that modelb_id or modelb resolves to the model field from either of the cached properties.



                In my opinion, it doesn't matter that modelb_id or modelb is passed as a keyword argument to QuerySet.filter. Only that the former keyword requires knowledge of an implementation detail.



                However it's better to consider the recommendation of the authors of the framework and use the model field names.







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