How can I address ECO's concerns about my employment?
I am going to reapply UK Standard Visitor Visa. What should I add in employer's letter that can be acceptable to ECO?
Page 1 of my refusal letter
Page 2 of my refusal letter
uk visa-refusals proof-of-employment
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I am going to reapply UK Standard Visitor Visa. What should I add in employer's letter that can be acceptable to ECO?
Page 1 of my refusal letter
Page 2 of my refusal letter
uk visa-refusals proof-of-employment
edited Feb 19 '17 at 16:33
JonathanReez♦
49.5k41237507
asked Aug 3 '16 at 23:01
aabbasaabbas
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What's "ECO"? Should we have a tag for it? Oh: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43268/…
– hippietrail
Aug 4 '16 at 12:30
2
@hippietrail If we had a tag "eco", people would use it mostly for environmental aspects of travel...
– David Richerby
Aug 5 '16 at 7:59
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I am going to reapply UK Standard Visitor Visa. What should I add in employer's letter that can be acceptable to ECO?
Page 1 of my refusal letter
Page 2 of my refusal letter
uk visa-refusals proof-of-employment
edited Feb 19 '17 at 16:33
JonathanReez♦
49.5k41237507
asked Aug 3 '16 at 23:01
aabbasaabbas
434
I am going to reapply UK Standard Visitor Visa. What should I add in employer's letter that can be acceptable to ECO?
Page 1 of my refusal letter
Page 2 of my refusal letter
uk visa-refusals proof-of-employment
uk visa-refusals proof-of-employment
edited Feb 19 '17 at 16:33
JonathanReez♦
49.5k41237507
asked Aug 3 '16 at 23:01
aabbasaabbas
434
edited Feb 19 '17 at 16:33
JonathanReez♦
49.5k41237507
asked Aug 3 '16 at 23:01
aabbasaabbas
434
edited Feb 19 '17 at 16:33
JonathanReez♦
49.5k41237507
edited Feb 19 '17 at 16:33
JonathanReez♦
49.5k41237507
edited Feb 19 '17 at 16:33
JonathanReez♦
49.5k41237507
49.5k41237507
asked Aug 3 '16 at 23:01
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434
asked Aug 3 '16 at 23:01
aabbasaabbas
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asked Aug 3 '16 at 23:01
aabbasaabbas
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434
What's "ECO"? Should we have a tag for it? Oh: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43268/…
– hippietrail
Aug 4 '16 at 12:30
2
@hippietrail If we had a tag "eco", people would use it mostly for environmental aspects of travel...
– David Richerby
Aug 5 '16 at 7:59
add a comment |
What's "ECO"? Should we have a tag for it? Oh: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43268/…
– hippietrail
Aug 4 '16 at 12:30
2
@hippietrail If we had a tag "eco", people would use it mostly for environmental aspects of travel...
– David Richerby
Aug 5 '16 at 7:59
What's "ECO"? Should we have a tag for it? Oh: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43268/…
– hippietrail
Aug 4 '16 at 12:30
What's "ECO"? Should we have a tag for it? Oh: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43268/…
– hippietrail
Aug 4 '16 at 12:30
2
2
@hippietrail If we had a tag "eco", people would use it mostly for environmental aspects of travel...
– David Richerby
Aug 5 '16 at 7:59
@hippietrail If we had a tag "eco", people would use it mostly for environmental aspects of travel...
– David Richerby
Aug 5 '16 at 7:59
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In short, your financials don't seem to make sense.
Your application says you earn PKR 78,000/month working for Punjab Beverage Company. Therefore, the ECO expects to see the same salary stated on the letter from your employer and he expects to see the same amount of money deposited into your bank account every month. Why is this not happening? If your income is actually irregular from "agricultural and cattle farming," why does your application say you earn this salary from Punjab Beverage Company? And if you do receive that salary from the Beverage Company, where is it going if not your bank account?
We have an answer here Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me?, which will tell you more about bank statements and what the ECO is looking to see from them.
Also, the ECO doesn't understand why your employer is promising to pay for the cost of your vacation. Normally, your employer would only pay for your trip if it was for business purposes.
Most importantly though, is the first paragraph. You applied previously, and the ECO found that "there is no evidence to show there has been any significant change in your circumstances since then." For a new application to be successful, you would need to show significantly different personal circumstances, such as greater ties to your home country. I would not apply again unless and until you are able to do so.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
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answered Aug 3 '16 at 23:53
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
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+1, but the OP is focused on the wrong thing! please remember that they got the OP mainly on change of circumstances (dot point 1) from his previous application. The situation where the OP is going for a compassionate and the employer is paying is strange and probably related to his previous application also. Getting an employer's confirmation will not amount to the change of circumstances he needs to show. In other words, he should save the £87 and not apply, and thus avoid a 3rd back-to-back refusal :) Also, a great link in your answer :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:03
@GayotFow Great points. If you want to advise the OP not to advise again, that would be a useful answer too.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 4 '16 at 0:05
1
You have covered it, but it wouldn't hurt to mention that he's focused on a paragraph that is not the show-stopper :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:06
I mentioned 78000 as gross monthly salary on the form, my net monthly salary after deductions is 50,000. I earn this from Punjab beverages company. Apart from that I do have irregular agricultural income which I did not declare on my application. I have about 20,00000 in my personal bank account but I do not have formal evidence of that income. Shall I include this in my next application and explain why in Pakistan we do not have proper evidence in black and white.
– aabbas
Aug 4 '16 at 8:43
3
@aabbas, you asked your question and got your answer. This site is not designed to go on and on in comments raising new questions. If you have a new question about what constitutes a change of circumstances, ask a new question. Please read stackoverflow.com/help/someone-answers and mark this answer as 'accepted'
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 10:42
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In short, your financials don't seem to make sense.
Your application says you earn PKR 78,000/month working for Punjab Beverage Company. Therefore, the ECO expects to see the same salary stated on the letter from your employer and he expects to see the same amount of money deposited into your bank account every month. Why is this not happening? If your income is actually irregular from "agricultural and cattle farming," why does your application say you earn this salary from Punjab Beverage Company? And if you do receive that salary from the Beverage Company, where is it going if not your bank account?
We have an answer here Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me?, which will tell you more about bank statements and what the ECO is looking to see from them.
Also, the ECO doesn't understand why your employer is promising to pay for the cost of your vacation. Normally, your employer would only pay for your trip if it was for business purposes.
Most importantly though, is the first paragraph. You applied previously, and the ECO found that "there is no evidence to show there has been any significant change in your circumstances since then." For a new application to be successful, you would need to show significantly different personal circumstances, such as greater ties to your home country. I would not apply again unless and until you are able to do so.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
answered Aug 3 '16 at 23:53
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
60.4k10184244
5
+1, but the OP is focused on the wrong thing! please remember that they got the OP mainly on change of circumstances (dot point 1) from his previous application. The situation where the OP is going for a compassionate and the employer is paying is strange and probably related to his previous application also. Getting an employer's confirmation will not amount to the change of circumstances he needs to show. In other words, he should save the £87 and not apply, and thus avoid a 3rd back-to-back refusal :) Also, a great link in your answer :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:03
@GayotFow Great points. If you want to advise the OP not to advise again, that would be a useful answer too.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 4 '16 at 0:05
1
You have covered it, but it wouldn't hurt to mention that he's focused on a paragraph that is not the show-stopper :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:06
I mentioned 78000 as gross monthly salary on the form, my net monthly salary after deductions is 50,000. I earn this from Punjab beverages company. Apart from that I do have irregular agricultural income which I did not declare on my application. I have about 20,00000 in my personal bank account but I do not have formal evidence of that income. Shall I include this in my next application and explain why in Pakistan we do not have proper evidence in black and white.
– aabbas
Aug 4 '16 at 8:43
3
@aabbas, you asked your question and got your answer. This site is not designed to go on and on in comments raising new questions. If you have a new question about what constitutes a change of circumstances, ask a new question. Please read stackoverflow.com/help/someone-answers and mark this answer as 'accepted'
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 10:42
|
show 2 more comments
In short, your financials don't seem to make sense.
Your application says you earn PKR 78,000/month working for Punjab Beverage Company. Therefore, the ECO expects to see the same salary stated on the letter from your employer and he expects to see the same amount of money deposited into your bank account every month. Why is this not happening? If your income is actually irregular from "agricultural and cattle farming," why does your application say you earn this salary from Punjab Beverage Company? And if you do receive that salary from the Beverage Company, where is it going if not your bank account?
We have an answer here Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me?, which will tell you more about bank statements and what the ECO is looking to see from them.
Also, the ECO doesn't understand why your employer is promising to pay for the cost of your vacation. Normally, your employer would only pay for your trip if it was for business purposes.
Most importantly though, is the first paragraph. You applied previously, and the ECO found that "there is no evidence to show there has been any significant change in your circumstances since then." For a new application to be successful, you would need to show significantly different personal circumstances, such as greater ties to your home country. I would not apply again unless and until you are able to do so.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
answered Aug 3 '16 at 23:53
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
60.4k10184244
5
+1, but the OP is focused on the wrong thing! please remember that they got the OP mainly on change of circumstances (dot point 1) from his previous application. The situation where the OP is going for a compassionate and the employer is paying is strange and probably related to his previous application also. Getting an employer's confirmation will not amount to the change of circumstances he needs to show. In other words, he should save the £87 and not apply, and thus avoid a 3rd back-to-back refusal :) Also, a great link in your answer :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:03
@GayotFow Great points. If you want to advise the OP not to advise again, that would be a useful answer too.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 4 '16 at 0:05
1
You have covered it, but it wouldn't hurt to mention that he's focused on a paragraph that is not the show-stopper :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:06
I mentioned 78000 as gross monthly salary on the form, my net monthly salary after deductions is 50,000. I earn this from Punjab beverages company. Apart from that I do have irregular agricultural income which I did not declare on my application. I have about 20,00000 in my personal bank account but I do not have formal evidence of that income. Shall I include this in my next application and explain why in Pakistan we do not have proper evidence in black and white.
– aabbas
Aug 4 '16 at 8:43
3
@aabbas, you asked your question and got your answer. This site is not designed to go on and on in comments raising new questions. If you have a new question about what constitutes a change of circumstances, ask a new question. Please read stackoverflow.com/help/someone-answers and mark this answer as 'accepted'
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 10:42
|
show 2 more comments
In short, your financials don't seem to make sense.
Your application says you earn PKR 78,000/month working for Punjab Beverage Company. Therefore, the ECO expects to see the same salary stated on the letter from your employer and he expects to see the same amount of money deposited into your bank account every month. Why is this not happening? If your income is actually irregular from "agricultural and cattle farming," why does your application say you earn this salary from Punjab Beverage Company? And if you do receive that salary from the Beverage Company, where is it going if not your bank account?
We have an answer here Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me?, which will tell you more about bank statements and what the ECO is looking to see from them.
Also, the ECO doesn't understand why your employer is promising to pay for the cost of your vacation. Normally, your employer would only pay for your trip if it was for business purposes.
Most importantly though, is the first paragraph. You applied previously, and the ECO found that "there is no evidence to show there has been any significant change in your circumstances since then." For a new application to be successful, you would need to show significantly different personal circumstances, such as greater ties to your home country. I would not apply again unless and until you are able to do so.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
answered Aug 3 '16 at 23:53
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
60.4k10184244
In short, your financials don't seem to make sense.
Your application says you earn PKR 78,000/month working for Punjab Beverage Company. Therefore, the ECO expects to see the same salary stated on the letter from your employer and he expects to see the same amount of money deposited into your bank account every month. Why is this not happening? If your income is actually irregular from "agricultural and cattle farming," why does your application say you earn this salary from Punjab Beverage Company? And if you do receive that salary from the Beverage Company, where is it going if not your bank account?
We have an answer here Should I submit bank statements when applying for a UK Visa? What do they say about me?, which will tell you more about bank statements and what the ECO is looking to see from them.
Also, the ECO doesn't understand why your employer is promising to pay for the cost of your vacation. Normally, your employer would only pay for your trip if it was for business purposes.
Most importantly though, is the first paragraph. You applied previously, and the ECO found that "there is no evidence to show there has been any significant change in your circumstances since then." For a new application to be successful, you would need to show significantly different personal circumstances, such as greater ties to your home country. I would not apply again unless and until you are able to do so.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
answered Aug 3 '16 at 23:53
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
60.4k10184244
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
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1
answered Aug 3 '16 at 23:53
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
60.4k10184244
answered Aug 3 '16 at 23:53
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
60.4k10184244
answered Aug 3 '16 at 23:53
Zach LiptonZach Lipton
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60.4k10184244
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+1, but the OP is focused on the wrong thing! please remember that they got the OP mainly on change of circumstances (dot point 1) from his previous application. The situation where the OP is going for a compassionate and the employer is paying is strange and probably related to his previous application also. Getting an employer's confirmation will not amount to the change of circumstances he needs to show. In other words, he should save the £87 and not apply, and thus avoid a 3rd back-to-back refusal :) Also, a great link in your answer :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:03
@GayotFow Great points. If you want to advise the OP not to advise again, that would be a useful answer too.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 4 '16 at 0:05
1
You have covered it, but it wouldn't hurt to mention that he's focused on a paragraph that is not the show-stopper :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:06
I mentioned 78000 as gross monthly salary on the form, my net monthly salary after deductions is 50,000. I earn this from Punjab beverages company. Apart from that I do have irregular agricultural income which I did not declare on my application. I have about 20,00000 in my personal bank account but I do not have formal evidence of that income. Shall I include this in my next application and explain why in Pakistan we do not have proper evidence in black and white.
– aabbas
Aug 4 '16 at 8:43
3
@aabbas, you asked your question and got your answer. This site is not designed to go on and on in comments raising new questions. If you have a new question about what constitutes a change of circumstances, ask a new question. Please read stackoverflow.com/help/someone-answers and mark this answer as 'accepted'
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 10:42
|
show 2 more comments
5
+1, but the OP is focused on the wrong thing! please remember that they got the OP mainly on change of circumstances (dot point 1) from his previous application. The situation where the OP is going for a compassionate and the employer is paying is strange and probably related to his previous application also. Getting an employer's confirmation will not amount to the change of circumstances he needs to show. In other words, he should save the £87 and not apply, and thus avoid a 3rd back-to-back refusal :) Also, a great link in your answer :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:03
@GayotFow Great points. If you want to advise the OP not to advise again, that would be a useful answer too.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 4 '16 at 0:05
1
You have covered it, but it wouldn't hurt to mention that he's focused on a paragraph that is not the show-stopper :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:06
I mentioned 78000 as gross monthly salary on the form, my net monthly salary after deductions is 50,000. I earn this from Punjab beverages company. Apart from that I do have irregular agricultural income which I did not declare on my application. I have about 20,00000 in my personal bank account but I do not have formal evidence of that income. Shall I include this in my next application and explain why in Pakistan we do not have proper evidence in black and white.
– aabbas
Aug 4 '16 at 8:43
3
@aabbas, you asked your question and got your answer. This site is not designed to go on and on in comments raising new questions. If you have a new question about what constitutes a change of circumstances, ask a new question. Please read stackoverflow.com/help/someone-answers and mark this answer as 'accepted'
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 10:42
5
5
+1, but the OP is focused on the wrong thing! please remember that they got the OP mainly on change of circumstances (dot point 1) from his previous application. The situation where the OP is going for a compassionate and the employer is paying is strange and probably related to his previous application also. Getting an employer's confirmation will not amount to the change of circumstances he needs to show. In other words, he should save the £87 and not apply, and thus avoid a 3rd back-to-back refusal :) Also, a great link in your answer :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:03
+1, but the OP is focused on the wrong thing! please remember that they got the OP mainly on change of circumstances (dot point 1) from his previous application. The situation where the OP is going for a compassionate and the employer is paying is strange and probably related to his previous application also. Getting an employer's confirmation will not amount to the change of circumstances he needs to show. In other words, he should save the £87 and not apply, and thus avoid a 3rd back-to-back refusal :) Also, a great link in your answer :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:03
@GayotFow Great points. If you want to advise the OP not to advise again, that would be a useful answer too.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 4 '16 at 0:05
@GayotFow Great points. If you want to advise the OP not to advise again, that would be a useful answer too.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 4 '16 at 0:05
1
1
You have covered it, but it wouldn't hurt to mention that he's focused on a paragraph that is not the show-stopper :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:06
You have covered it, but it wouldn't hurt to mention that he's focused on a paragraph that is not the show-stopper :)
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 0:06
I mentioned 78000 as gross monthly salary on the form, my net monthly salary after deductions is 50,000. I earn this from Punjab beverages company. Apart from that I do have irregular agricultural income which I did not declare on my application. I have about 20,00000 in my personal bank account but I do not have formal evidence of that income. Shall I include this in my next application and explain why in Pakistan we do not have proper evidence in black and white.
– aabbas
Aug 4 '16 at 8:43
I mentioned 78000 as gross monthly salary on the form, my net monthly salary after deductions is 50,000. I earn this from Punjab beverages company. Apart from that I do have irregular agricultural income which I did not declare on my application. I have about 20,00000 in my personal bank account but I do not have formal evidence of that income. Shall I include this in my next application and explain why in Pakistan we do not have proper evidence in black and white.
– aabbas
Aug 4 '16 at 8:43
3
3
@aabbas, you asked your question and got your answer. This site is not designed to go on and on in comments raising new questions. If you have a new question about what constitutes a change of circumstances, ask a new question. Please read stackoverflow.com/help/someone-answers and mark this answer as 'accepted'
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 10:42
@aabbas, you asked your question and got your answer. This site is not designed to go on and on in comments raising new questions. If you have a new question about what constitutes a change of circumstances, ask a new question. Please read stackoverflow.com/help/someone-answers and mark this answer as 'accepted'
– Gayot Fow
Aug 4 '16 at 10:42
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What's "ECO"? Should we have a tag for it? Oh: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/43268/…
– hippietrail
Aug 4 '16 at 12:30
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@hippietrail If we had a tag "eco", people would use it mostly for environmental aspects of travel...
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