Enhanced New York State License with name not in proper order
My brother received his Enhanced New York State driver's licence and his name is not displayed properly- (First name is where Last name should be - Middle name where First name should be and Last name where Middle name should be. There is a comma separating Middle and Last names however).
Is this document valid for entry into Canada and back into the United States, or must it be corrected to be valid? Checked with New York State D M V, but they could not furnish a definite answer. I could not contact either the U S or Canadian border Patrols for any clarification. We are traveling this coming Friday.
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edited Apr 15 '17 at 8:24
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My brother received his Enhanced New York State driver's licence and his name is not displayed properly- (First name is where Last name should be - Middle name where First name should be and Last name where Middle name should be. There is a comma separating Middle and Last names however).
Is this document valid for entry into Canada and back into the United States, or must it be corrected to be valid? Checked with New York State D M V, but they could not furnish a definite answer. I could not contact either the U S or Canadian border Patrols for any clarification. We are traveling this coming Friday.
usa canada international-travel paperwork driving-licenses
edited Apr 15 '17 at 8:24
Ali Awan
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asked Apr 14 '17 at 23:20
Ed Schmitt
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You mean something like this? Billy Bob Jones -> Bob Jones, Billy?
– Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Apr 14 '17 at 23:39
4
Is this the same license that you cancelled? Or are these two separate, but closely related, problems, one for you and one for your brother?
– Zach Lipton
Apr 15 '17 at 0:24
2
When you say "should be" are you taking into account the fact that NY licenses show names as LAST on the line above FIRST, MIDDLE (in other words, does your license say FIRST on the line above MIDDLE, LAST? I suppose the names are also in that order in the machine readable zone on the back; are they?
– phoog
Apr 15 '17 at 2:53
1
Separate, but closely related. Should read Jones on first line then Billy,Bob on second line. License reads Billy on first line then Bob,Jones on second line.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 2:57
Yes I am. However his has the first name where the last name should be, his middle name where his first name should be and his last name where his middle name should be. It is most likely that the application was not filled out correctly, and the clerk at the DMV copied what was on it, (and no one caught the error) until the permanent license arrived. And that is how the names are in the readable zone on the back.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 3:14
|
show 5 more comments
My brother received his Enhanced New York State driver's licence and his name is not displayed properly- (First name is where Last name should be - Middle name where First name should be and Last name where Middle name should be. There is a comma separating Middle and Last names however).
Is this document valid for entry into Canada and back into the United States, or must it be corrected to be valid? Checked with New York State D M V, but they could not furnish a definite answer. I could not contact either the U S or Canadian border Patrols for any clarification. We are traveling this coming Friday.
usa canada international-travel paperwork driving-licenses
edited Apr 15 '17 at 8:24
Ali Awan
10.6k85099
asked Apr 14 '17 at 23:20
Ed Schmitt
261
My brother received his Enhanced New York State driver's licence and his name is not displayed properly- (First name is where Last name should be - Middle name where First name should be and Last name where Middle name should be. There is a comma separating Middle and Last names however).
Is this document valid for entry into Canada and back into the United States, or must it be corrected to be valid? Checked with New York State D M V, but they could not furnish a definite answer. I could not contact either the U S or Canadian border Patrols for any clarification. We are traveling this coming Friday.
usa canada international-travel paperwork driving-licenses
usa canada international-travel paperwork driving-licenses
edited Apr 15 '17 at 8:24
Ali Awan
10.6k85099
asked Apr 14 '17 at 23:20
Ed Schmitt
261
edited Apr 15 '17 at 8:24
Ali Awan
10.6k85099
asked Apr 14 '17 at 23:20
Ed Schmitt
261
edited Apr 15 '17 at 8:24
Ali Awan
10.6k85099
edited Apr 15 '17 at 8:24
Ali Awan
10.6k85099
edited Apr 15 '17 at 8:24
Ali Awan
10.6k85099
10.6k85099
asked Apr 14 '17 at 23:20
Ed Schmitt
261
asked Apr 14 '17 at 23:20
Ed Schmitt
261
asked Apr 14 '17 at 23:20
Ed Schmitt
261
261
2
You mean something like this? Billy Bob Jones -> Bob Jones, Billy?
– Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Apr 14 '17 at 23:39
4
Is this the same license that you cancelled? Or are these two separate, but closely related, problems, one for you and one for your brother?
– Zach Lipton
Apr 15 '17 at 0:24
2
When you say "should be" are you taking into account the fact that NY licenses show names as LAST on the line above FIRST, MIDDLE (in other words, does your license say FIRST on the line above MIDDLE, LAST? I suppose the names are also in that order in the machine readable zone on the back; are they?
– phoog
Apr 15 '17 at 2:53
1
Separate, but closely related. Should read Jones on first line then Billy,Bob on second line. License reads Billy on first line then Bob,Jones on second line.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 2:57
Yes I am. However his has the first name where the last name should be, his middle name where his first name should be and his last name where his middle name should be. It is most likely that the application was not filled out correctly, and the clerk at the DMV copied what was on it, (and no one caught the error) until the permanent license arrived. And that is how the names are in the readable zone on the back.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 3:14
|
show 5 more comments
2
You mean something like this? Billy Bob Jones -> Bob Jones, Billy?
– Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Apr 14 '17 at 23:39
4
Is this the same license that you cancelled? Or are these two separate, but closely related, problems, one for you and one for your brother?
– Zach Lipton
Apr 15 '17 at 0:24
2
When you say "should be" are you taking into account the fact that NY licenses show names as LAST on the line above FIRST, MIDDLE (in other words, does your license say FIRST on the line above MIDDLE, LAST? I suppose the names are also in that order in the machine readable zone on the back; are they?
– phoog
Apr 15 '17 at 2:53
1
Separate, but closely related. Should read Jones on first line then Billy,Bob on second line. License reads Billy on first line then Bob,Jones on second line.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 2:57
Yes I am. However his has the first name where the last name should be, his middle name where his first name should be and his last name where his middle name should be. It is most likely that the application was not filled out correctly, and the clerk at the DMV copied what was on it, (and no one caught the error) until the permanent license arrived. And that is how the names are in the readable zone on the back.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 3:14
2
2
You mean something like this? Billy Bob Jones -> Bob Jones, Billy?
– Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Apr 14 '17 at 23:39
You mean something like this? Billy Bob Jones -> Bob Jones, Billy?
– Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Apr 14 '17 at 23:39
4
4
Is this the same license that you cancelled? Or are these two separate, but closely related, problems, one for you and one for your brother?
– Zach Lipton
Apr 15 '17 at 0:24
Is this the same license that you cancelled? Or are these two separate, but closely related, problems, one for you and one for your brother?
– Zach Lipton
Apr 15 '17 at 0:24
2
2
When you say "should be" are you taking into account the fact that NY licenses show names as LAST on the line above FIRST, MIDDLE (in other words, does your license say FIRST on the line above MIDDLE, LAST? I suppose the names are also in that order in the machine readable zone on the back; are they?
– phoog
Apr 15 '17 at 2:53
When you say "should be" are you taking into account the fact that NY licenses show names as LAST on the line above FIRST, MIDDLE (in other words, does your license say FIRST on the line above MIDDLE, LAST? I suppose the names are also in that order in the machine readable zone on the back; are they?
– phoog
Apr 15 '17 at 2:53
1
1
Separate, but closely related. Should read Jones on first line then Billy,Bob on second line. License reads Billy on first line then Bob,Jones on second line.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 2:57
Separate, but closely related. Should read Jones on first line then Billy,Bob on second line. License reads Billy on first line then Bob,Jones on second line.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 2:57
Yes I am. However his has the first name where the last name should be, his middle name where his first name should be and his last name where his middle name should be. It is most likely that the application was not filled out correctly, and the clerk at the DMV copied what was on it, (and no one caught the error) until the permanent license arrived. And that is how the names are in the readable zone on the back.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 3:14
Yes I am. However his has the first name where the last name should be, his middle name where his first name should be and his last name where his middle name should be. It is most likely that the application was not filled out correctly, and the clerk at the DMV copied what was on it, (and no one caught the error) until the permanent license arrived. And that is how the names are in the readable zone on the back.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 3:14
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Please see my answer to your other question. In general, Canada admits US citizens with any proof of identity and citizenship. This should include an enhanced license with a clerical error.
In fact, when your brother shows the license, they may not even notice that the name is reversed. But, if they do, he may want to be prepared with independent photographic proof of identity, if he has it, as well as his birth certificate.
To get back into the US, as noted in the other answer, he is nominally supposed to have one of several documents specified by the WHTI. But in fact US citizens have a fundamental right to enter the country, so if he can prove his US citizenship by any means, such as a birth certificate, then CBP has to let him in. "Any means" may well also include an enhanced driver's license with a clerical error. The only caveat is that entry without a WHTI-specified document could take longer. Your brother should be prepared for the possibility that he will have to spend some time in secondary inspection as CBP considers his evidence of US citizenship.
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Please see my answer to your other question. In general, Canada admits US citizens with any proof of identity and citizenship. This should include an enhanced license with a clerical error.
In fact, when your brother shows the license, they may not even notice that the name is reversed. But, if they do, he may want to be prepared with independent photographic proof of identity, if he has it, as well as his birth certificate.
To get back into the US, as noted in the other answer, he is nominally supposed to have one of several documents specified by the WHTI. But in fact US citizens have a fundamental right to enter the country, so if he can prove his US citizenship by any means, such as a birth certificate, then CBP has to let him in. "Any means" may well also include an enhanced driver's license with a clerical error. The only caveat is that entry without a WHTI-specified document could take longer. Your brother should be prepared for the possibility that he will have to spend some time in secondary inspection as CBP considers his evidence of US citizenship.
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Please see my answer to your other question. In general, Canada admits US citizens with any proof of identity and citizenship. This should include an enhanced license with a clerical error.
In fact, when your brother shows the license, they may not even notice that the name is reversed. But, if they do, he may want to be prepared with independent photographic proof of identity, if he has it, as well as his birth certificate.
To get back into the US, as noted in the other answer, he is nominally supposed to have one of several documents specified by the WHTI. But in fact US citizens have a fundamental right to enter the country, so if he can prove his US citizenship by any means, such as a birth certificate, then CBP has to let him in. "Any means" may well also include an enhanced driver's license with a clerical error. The only caveat is that entry without a WHTI-specified document could take longer. Your brother should be prepared for the possibility that he will have to spend some time in secondary inspection as CBP considers his evidence of US citizenship.
answered May 13 '17 at 14:46
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Please see my answer to your other question. In general, Canada admits US citizens with any proof of identity and citizenship. This should include an enhanced license with a clerical error.
In fact, when your brother shows the license, they may not even notice that the name is reversed. But, if they do, he may want to be prepared with independent photographic proof of identity, if he has it, as well as his birth certificate.
To get back into the US, as noted in the other answer, he is nominally supposed to have one of several documents specified by the WHTI. But in fact US citizens have a fundamental right to enter the country, so if he can prove his US citizenship by any means, such as a birth certificate, then CBP has to let him in. "Any means" may well also include an enhanced driver's license with a clerical error. The only caveat is that entry without a WHTI-specified document could take longer. Your brother should be prepared for the possibility that he will have to spend some time in secondary inspection as CBP considers his evidence of US citizenship.
answered May 13 '17 at 14:46
phoog
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Please see my answer to your other question. In general, Canada admits US citizens with any proof of identity and citizenship. This should include an enhanced license with a clerical error.
In fact, when your brother shows the license, they may not even notice that the name is reversed. But, if they do, he may want to be prepared with independent photographic proof of identity, if he has it, as well as his birth certificate.
To get back into the US, as noted in the other answer, he is nominally supposed to have one of several documents specified by the WHTI. But in fact US citizens have a fundamental right to enter the country, so if he can prove his US citizenship by any means, such as a birth certificate, then CBP has to let him in. "Any means" may well also include an enhanced driver's license with a clerical error. The only caveat is that entry without a WHTI-specified document could take longer. Your brother should be prepared for the possibility that he will have to spend some time in secondary inspection as CBP considers his evidence of US citizenship.
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You mean something like this? Billy Bob Jones -> Bob Jones, Billy?
– Roddy of the Frozen Peas
Apr 14 '17 at 23:39
4
Is this the same license that you cancelled? Or are these two separate, but closely related, problems, one for you and one for your brother?
– Zach Lipton
Apr 15 '17 at 0:24
2
When you say "should be" are you taking into account the fact that NY licenses show names as LAST on the line above FIRST, MIDDLE (in other words, does your license say FIRST on the line above MIDDLE, LAST? I suppose the names are also in that order in the machine readable zone on the back; are they?
– phoog
Apr 15 '17 at 2:53
1
Separate, but closely related. Should read Jones on first line then Billy,Bob on second line. License reads Billy on first line then Bob,Jones on second line.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 2:57
Yes I am. However his has the first name where the last name should be, his middle name where his first name should be and his last name where his middle name should be. It is most likely that the application was not filled out correctly, and the clerk at the DMV copied what was on it, (and no one caught the error) until the permanent license arrived. And that is how the names are in the readable zone on the back.
– Ed Schmitt
Apr 15 '17 at 3:14