Leaving Thailand after months-long overstay (can't pay fine)
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I missed my plane after staying just a couple weeks in Thailand and stayed with my girlfriend. I ended up out of money and no ticket home. I keep hearing about staying a day over here, but nothing about a few months over. I have stayed here for 6 months, so overstayed by about 5 months now.
I never had a visa, because I was only going to stay for a couple of weeks. Now I finally was able to get a ticket home and I'm not sure how to go about it.
I barely got enough money for a ticket and can't pay the fine, which I am sure is 20,000 baht by now.
What is there for me to do?
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I missed my plane after staying just a couple weeks in Thailand and stayed with my girlfriend. I ended up out of money and no ticket home. I keep hearing about staying a day over here, but nothing about a few months over. I have stayed here for 6 months, so overstayed by about 5 months now.
I never had a visa, because I was only going to stay for a couple of weeks. Now I finally was able to get a ticket home and I'm not sure how to go about it.
I barely got enough money for a ticket and can't pay the fine, which I am sure is 20,000 baht by now.
What is there for me to do?
us-citizens thailand overstaying
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Let us know when you got out of Thailand. Else we can place a banner around your user profile [DETAINED]. Good luck.
– Patrick Hofman
Jun 13 '16 at 12:33
74
Although it's a minor issue, I'm struggling to understand how a missed plane turned into multi-month over stay. You might reconsider using that as your excuse.
– NotMe
Jun 13 '16 at 19:44
38
@NotMe It may have started with a non-refundable non-changeable ticket and insufficient funds to buy a replacement. At that point belak should have immediately contacted their country's consulate or embassy to ask for help and advice.
– Patricia Shanahan
Jun 13 '16 at 21:50
19
Also note that you are not allowed to work in Thailand, like most countries, on a tourist visa. You would need some sort of Thai work permit for that. Working illegally could greatly compound your problems, plus you'd be working for the kind of people who hire illegal workers, which could leave you with little recourse if things go south.
– Zach Lipton
Jun 14 '16 at 5:26
17
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not had the fine money... thanks for all the info people
– belak
Aug 5 '16 at 3:35
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up vote
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I missed my plane after staying just a couple weeks in Thailand and stayed with my girlfriend. I ended up out of money and no ticket home. I keep hearing about staying a day over here, but nothing about a few months over. I have stayed here for 6 months, so overstayed by about 5 months now.
I never had a visa, because I was only going to stay for a couple of weeks. Now I finally was able to get a ticket home and I'm not sure how to go about it.
I barely got enough money for a ticket and can't pay the fine, which I am sure is 20,000 baht by now.
What is there for me to do?
us-citizens thailand overstaying
I missed my plane after staying just a couple weeks in Thailand and stayed with my girlfriend. I ended up out of money and no ticket home. I keep hearing about staying a day over here, but nothing about a few months over. I have stayed here for 6 months, so overstayed by about 5 months now.
I never had a visa, because I was only going to stay for a couple of weeks. Now I finally was able to get a ticket home and I'm not sure how to go about it.
I barely got enough money for a ticket and can't pay the fine, which I am sure is 20,000 baht by now.
What is there for me to do?
us-citizens thailand overstaying
us-citizens thailand overstaying
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asked Jun 13 '16 at 6:54
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Let us know when you got out of Thailand. Else we can place a banner around your user profile [DETAINED]. Good luck.
– Patrick Hofman
Jun 13 '16 at 12:33
74
Although it's a minor issue, I'm struggling to understand how a missed plane turned into multi-month over stay. You might reconsider using that as your excuse.
– NotMe
Jun 13 '16 at 19:44
38
@NotMe It may have started with a non-refundable non-changeable ticket and insufficient funds to buy a replacement. At that point belak should have immediately contacted their country's consulate or embassy to ask for help and advice.
– Patricia Shanahan
Jun 13 '16 at 21:50
19
Also note that you are not allowed to work in Thailand, like most countries, on a tourist visa. You would need some sort of Thai work permit for that. Working illegally could greatly compound your problems, plus you'd be working for the kind of people who hire illegal workers, which could leave you with little recourse if things go south.
– Zach Lipton
Jun 14 '16 at 5:26
17
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not had the fine money... thanks for all the info people
– belak
Aug 5 '16 at 3:35
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show 21 more comments
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Let us know when you got out of Thailand. Else we can place a banner around your user profile [DETAINED]. Good luck.
– Patrick Hofman
Jun 13 '16 at 12:33
74
Although it's a minor issue, I'm struggling to understand how a missed plane turned into multi-month over stay. You might reconsider using that as your excuse.
– NotMe
Jun 13 '16 at 19:44
38
@NotMe It may have started with a non-refundable non-changeable ticket and insufficient funds to buy a replacement. At that point belak should have immediately contacted their country's consulate or embassy to ask for help and advice.
– Patricia Shanahan
Jun 13 '16 at 21:50
19
Also note that you are not allowed to work in Thailand, like most countries, on a tourist visa. You would need some sort of Thai work permit for that. Working illegally could greatly compound your problems, plus you'd be working for the kind of people who hire illegal workers, which could leave you with little recourse if things go south.
– Zach Lipton
Jun 14 '16 at 5:26
17
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not had the fine money... thanks for all the info people
– belak
Aug 5 '16 at 3:35
58
58
Let us know when you got out of Thailand. Else we can place a banner around your user profile [DETAINED]. Good luck.
– Patrick Hofman
Jun 13 '16 at 12:33
Let us know when you got out of Thailand. Else we can place a banner around your user profile [DETAINED]. Good luck.
– Patrick Hofman
Jun 13 '16 at 12:33
74
74
Although it's a minor issue, I'm struggling to understand how a missed plane turned into multi-month over stay. You might reconsider using that as your excuse.
– NotMe
Jun 13 '16 at 19:44
Although it's a minor issue, I'm struggling to understand how a missed plane turned into multi-month over stay. You might reconsider using that as your excuse.
– NotMe
Jun 13 '16 at 19:44
38
38
@NotMe It may have started with a non-refundable non-changeable ticket and insufficient funds to buy a replacement. At that point belak should have immediately contacted their country's consulate or embassy to ask for help and advice.
– Patricia Shanahan
Jun 13 '16 at 21:50
@NotMe It may have started with a non-refundable non-changeable ticket and insufficient funds to buy a replacement. At that point belak should have immediately contacted their country's consulate or embassy to ask for help and advice.
– Patricia Shanahan
Jun 13 '16 at 21:50
19
19
Also note that you are not allowed to work in Thailand, like most countries, on a tourist visa. You would need some sort of Thai work permit for that. Working illegally could greatly compound your problems, plus you'd be working for the kind of people who hire illegal workers, which could leave you with little recourse if things go south.
– Zach Lipton
Jun 14 '16 at 5:26
Also note that you are not allowed to work in Thailand, like most countries, on a tourist visa. You would need some sort of Thai work permit for that. Working illegally could greatly compound your problems, plus you'd be working for the kind of people who hire illegal workers, which could leave you with little recourse if things go south.
– Zach Lipton
Jun 14 '16 at 5:26
17
17
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not had the fine money... thanks for all the info people
– belak
Aug 5 '16 at 3:35
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not had the fine money... thanks for all the info people
– belak
Aug 5 '16 at 3:35
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This question has been asked many times, so I guess you've already found some nice resources (one, two) on this topic.
- You will pay the 20,000 THB fine. Possibly, more. Possibly, after imprisonment.
- You will receive the "overstay" stamp in your passport.
- Possibly, you'll get banned from entering the Kingdom, temporarily or permanently; The biggest issue is that you may not be informed about this right in place and get an unpleasant surprise on your next visit.
- Your goal is to try to avoid imprisonment.
If failed to pay the overstay fine, you'll most certainly get detained and imprisoned.
So, your actions are:
- Call your Embassy and ask for instructions as they know the thing better than strangers at StackExchange;
- Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends;
- Avoid exposing yourself to random police checks, even on your way to the airport. Don't drive the car/bike, don't visit places where random checks can occur (beer bars, disco, etc);
- Get safely to the airport; you will need several hours to get through all the process, so come early;
- Walk up to the Immigration counter, hand your return ticket, pay the fine.
- Expect for a shame of being handcuffs-escorted to the plane.
- Never ever overstay anymore.
P.S. Jail in Thailand usually means a small crowded room with no furniture or even fan, lots of mosquitoes, sleeping on a concrete floor, and foreigners even need to pay for their meals.
Don't expose yourself for that.
2
Indeed, the old 'pay the fine or do the time' applies here as in so many situations.
– jwenting
Jun 13 '16 at 13:15
63
"strangers at StackExchange" man, the combined first hand experiences here are much better than some embassy employees.
– Nean Der Thal
Jun 13 '16 at 13:58
42
"Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends" you'll need to find a way to make that request sound real because on first glance it will sound like a scam.
– Brad
Jun 13 '16 at 15:51
5
@Brad Google Hangouts (or the like), if you can.
– Wayne Werner
Jun 13 '16 at 18:07
7
@KlaymenDK I doubt total strangers on the internet will be running to provide funds for this situation.
– gerrit
Jun 14 '16 at 10:12
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If you voluntarily exit, you will be fined 500 baht per day of overstay (maximum amount of 20,000 baht), you will not go to jail.
If you are caught by police overstaying, you will face criminal charges and higher fines. Jail time tends to alloted primarily for really long overstays (as in years), not for minor overstays.
If your overstay is less than 90 days, your passport will be marked as an overstay and any future visits will be subjected to proving your tourist intentions (departing tickets, funding, hotel bookings).
If your overstay is more than 90 days you will be banned from the country for 1 year in situation one (voluntary) or 5 years in situation two (arrested). Overstaying by one year would be 3 and 10 year bans respectively.
http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
If you can't pay the fine, you will be at the mercy of the immigration officer handling your case. He could simply clean out your wallet and send you packing home, he could press legal charges against you, he could choose to deport you which could have ramifications on future visas or visits anywhere, etc. You really need to secure funds before going to the airport, contact friends family back home, ask your buddies in Thailand, contact your embassy about loans, etc.
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Yeah and most importantly, the immigration officer can detain you. Indefinitely if you cannot pay your ticket back.
– dan-klasson
Jun 14 '16 at 18:40
@dan-klasson OP has commented on the question that they do have a ticket home now.
– a CVn
Jun 15 '16 at 10:58
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@MichaelKjörling: Yes, but maybe he loses this ticket, if arrested, and have to buy a new one.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 12:47
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@QuoraFeans - one could argue a million whatifs, but that doesn't address the OP's specific questions.
– user13044
Jun 15 '16 at 15:24
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@Tom: getting delayed by immigration and missing a flight at an airline company that does not allow re-schedule implies losing a ticket. I don't mean just a casual possibility, but something pretty probable.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:18
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Here's what actually happened to the OP (as indicated in a comment):
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and
that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got
a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not
had the fine money... thanks for all the info people.
Someone suggested to the OP that this information is so valuable that it shouldn't be a mere comment, but edited into OP itself. I think OP should actually make this an answer himself, but until he does, I'm putting it here as a Community Wiki answer.
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I never saw the update, so thanks for highlighting it here. Glad the OP got out.
– Zach Lipton
Sep 18 '16 at 7:44
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OP, if you see this answer, please consider making your own answer where you provide even more details. You can then comment on this answer and I will delete it.
– Revetahw
Sep 18 '16 at 7:56
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Let the US consulate know, when you plan to fly back.
Also ask them for advice. I am pretty sure this happens to other people.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
Do everything possible to gather the money. 20,000 bht is $600. Whatever you can sell to get these $600 will be worthwhile.
Report the situation to the nearest immigration office by yourself and come clean. If they catch you, things will be different. Do this with enough time before the flight, not just 2-3 hours before the flight. Otherwise, you could miss your flight.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html They draw a line between surrendering and being caught.
Do not approach immigration before you gathered the money.
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Why the US consulate? Will they help the OP if he is not American?
– AndyBrown
Jun 15 '16 at 13:55
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@AndyBrown: the OP is American.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 13:56
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$600 is not much. Get it. Even dirt poor and broke as hell in the USA $600 is much better then jail time in a foreign prison. Borrow it, use a credit card or three, sell everything you own. Sell your car, your cloths, your house, your dog, everything if that's what it takes. If you end up in prison, it's just gonna make it so much worse.
– coteyr
Jun 15 '16 at 14:35
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@coteyr: yes, and he will still need to pay to get out of prison. So, to pay or not to pay is not an option.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:20
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@VladimirGamalian: was he the punching bag?
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This question has been asked many times, so I guess you've already found some nice resources (one, two) on this topic.
- You will pay the 20,000 THB fine. Possibly, more. Possibly, after imprisonment.
- You will receive the "overstay" stamp in your passport.
- Possibly, you'll get banned from entering the Kingdom, temporarily or permanently; The biggest issue is that you may not be informed about this right in place and get an unpleasant surprise on your next visit.
- Your goal is to try to avoid imprisonment.
If failed to pay the overstay fine, you'll most certainly get detained and imprisoned.
So, your actions are:
- Call your Embassy and ask for instructions as they know the thing better than strangers at StackExchange;
- Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends;
- Avoid exposing yourself to random police checks, even on your way to the airport. Don't drive the car/bike, don't visit places where random checks can occur (beer bars, disco, etc);
- Get safely to the airport; you will need several hours to get through all the process, so come early;
- Walk up to the Immigration counter, hand your return ticket, pay the fine.
- Expect for a shame of being handcuffs-escorted to the plane.
- Never ever overstay anymore.
P.S. Jail in Thailand usually means a small crowded room with no furniture or even fan, lots of mosquitoes, sleeping on a concrete floor, and foreigners even need to pay for their meals.
Don't expose yourself for that.
2
Indeed, the old 'pay the fine or do the time' applies here as in so many situations.
– jwenting
Jun 13 '16 at 13:15
63
"strangers at StackExchange" man, the combined first hand experiences here are much better than some embassy employees.
– Nean Der Thal
Jun 13 '16 at 13:58
42
"Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends" you'll need to find a way to make that request sound real because on first glance it will sound like a scam.
– Brad
Jun 13 '16 at 15:51
5
@Brad Google Hangouts (or the like), if you can.
– Wayne Werner
Jun 13 '16 at 18:07
7
@KlaymenDK I doubt total strangers on the internet will be running to provide funds for this situation.
– gerrit
Jun 14 '16 at 10:12
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show 7 more comments
up vote
127
down vote
This question has been asked many times, so I guess you've already found some nice resources (one, two) on this topic.
- You will pay the 20,000 THB fine. Possibly, more. Possibly, after imprisonment.
- You will receive the "overstay" stamp in your passport.
- Possibly, you'll get banned from entering the Kingdom, temporarily or permanently; The biggest issue is that you may not be informed about this right in place and get an unpleasant surprise on your next visit.
- Your goal is to try to avoid imprisonment.
If failed to pay the overstay fine, you'll most certainly get detained and imprisoned.
So, your actions are:
- Call your Embassy and ask for instructions as they know the thing better than strangers at StackExchange;
- Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends;
- Avoid exposing yourself to random police checks, even on your way to the airport. Don't drive the car/bike, don't visit places where random checks can occur (beer bars, disco, etc);
- Get safely to the airport; you will need several hours to get through all the process, so come early;
- Walk up to the Immigration counter, hand your return ticket, pay the fine.
- Expect for a shame of being handcuffs-escorted to the plane.
- Never ever overstay anymore.
P.S. Jail in Thailand usually means a small crowded room with no furniture or even fan, lots of mosquitoes, sleeping on a concrete floor, and foreigners even need to pay for their meals.
Don't expose yourself for that.
2
Indeed, the old 'pay the fine or do the time' applies here as in so many situations.
– jwenting
Jun 13 '16 at 13:15
63
"strangers at StackExchange" man, the combined first hand experiences here are much better than some embassy employees.
– Nean Der Thal
Jun 13 '16 at 13:58
42
"Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends" you'll need to find a way to make that request sound real because on first glance it will sound like a scam.
– Brad
Jun 13 '16 at 15:51
5
@Brad Google Hangouts (or the like), if you can.
– Wayne Werner
Jun 13 '16 at 18:07
7
@KlaymenDK I doubt total strangers on the internet will be running to provide funds for this situation.
– gerrit
Jun 14 '16 at 10:12
|
show 7 more comments
up vote
127
down vote
up vote
127
down vote
This question has been asked many times, so I guess you've already found some nice resources (one, two) on this topic.
- You will pay the 20,000 THB fine. Possibly, more. Possibly, after imprisonment.
- You will receive the "overstay" stamp in your passport.
- Possibly, you'll get banned from entering the Kingdom, temporarily or permanently; The biggest issue is that you may not be informed about this right in place and get an unpleasant surprise on your next visit.
- Your goal is to try to avoid imprisonment.
If failed to pay the overstay fine, you'll most certainly get detained and imprisoned.
So, your actions are:
- Call your Embassy and ask for instructions as they know the thing better than strangers at StackExchange;
- Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends;
- Avoid exposing yourself to random police checks, even on your way to the airport. Don't drive the car/bike, don't visit places where random checks can occur (beer bars, disco, etc);
- Get safely to the airport; you will need several hours to get through all the process, so come early;
- Walk up to the Immigration counter, hand your return ticket, pay the fine.
- Expect for a shame of being handcuffs-escorted to the plane.
- Never ever overstay anymore.
P.S. Jail in Thailand usually means a small crowded room with no furniture or even fan, lots of mosquitoes, sleeping on a concrete floor, and foreigners even need to pay for their meals.
Don't expose yourself for that.
This question has been asked many times, so I guess you've already found some nice resources (one, two) on this topic.
- You will pay the 20,000 THB fine. Possibly, more. Possibly, after imprisonment.
- You will receive the "overstay" stamp in your passport.
- Possibly, you'll get banned from entering the Kingdom, temporarily or permanently; The biggest issue is that you may not be informed about this right in place and get an unpleasant surprise on your next visit.
- Your goal is to try to avoid imprisonment.
If failed to pay the overstay fine, you'll most certainly get detained and imprisoned.
So, your actions are:
- Call your Embassy and ask for instructions as they know the thing better than strangers at StackExchange;
- Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends;
- Avoid exposing yourself to random police checks, even on your way to the airport. Don't drive the car/bike, don't visit places where random checks can occur (beer bars, disco, etc);
- Get safely to the airport; you will need several hours to get through all the process, so come early;
- Walk up to the Immigration counter, hand your return ticket, pay the fine.
- Expect for a shame of being handcuffs-escorted to the plane.
- Never ever overstay anymore.
P.S. Jail in Thailand usually means a small crowded room with no furniture or even fan, lots of mosquitoes, sleeping on a concrete floor, and foreigners even need to pay for their meals.
Don't expose yourself for that.
answered Jun 13 '16 at 10:32
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Indeed, the old 'pay the fine or do the time' applies here as in so many situations.
– jwenting
Jun 13 '16 at 13:15
63
"strangers at StackExchange" man, the combined first hand experiences here are much better than some embassy employees.
– Nean Der Thal
Jun 13 '16 at 13:58
42
"Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends" you'll need to find a way to make that request sound real because on first glance it will sound like a scam.
– Brad
Jun 13 '16 at 15:51
5
@Brad Google Hangouts (or the like), if you can.
– Wayne Werner
Jun 13 '16 at 18:07
7
@KlaymenDK I doubt total strangers on the internet will be running to provide funds for this situation.
– gerrit
Jun 14 '16 at 10:12
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show 7 more comments
2
Indeed, the old 'pay the fine or do the time' applies here as in so many situations.
– jwenting
Jun 13 '16 at 13:15
63
"strangers at StackExchange" man, the combined first hand experiences here are much better than some embassy employees.
– Nean Der Thal
Jun 13 '16 at 13:58
42
"Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends" you'll need to find a way to make that request sound real because on first glance it will sound like a scam.
– Brad
Jun 13 '16 at 15:51
5
@Brad Google Hangouts (or the like), if you can.
– Wayne Werner
Jun 13 '16 at 18:07
7
@KlaymenDK I doubt total strangers on the internet will be running to provide funds for this situation.
– gerrit
Jun 14 '16 at 10:12
2
2
Indeed, the old 'pay the fine or do the time' applies here as in so many situations.
– jwenting
Jun 13 '16 at 13:15
Indeed, the old 'pay the fine or do the time' applies here as in so many situations.
– jwenting
Jun 13 '16 at 13:15
63
63
"strangers at StackExchange" man, the combined first hand experiences here are much better than some embassy employees.
– Nean Der Thal
Jun 13 '16 at 13:58
"strangers at StackExchange" man, the combined first hand experiences here are much better than some embassy employees.
– Nean Der Thal
Jun 13 '16 at 13:58
42
42
"Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends" you'll need to find a way to make that request sound real because on first glance it will sound like a scam.
– Brad
Jun 13 '16 at 15:51
"Ask for a money transfer from your family or friends" you'll need to find a way to make that request sound real because on first glance it will sound like a scam.
– Brad
Jun 13 '16 at 15:51
5
5
@Brad Google Hangouts (or the like), if you can.
– Wayne Werner
Jun 13 '16 at 18:07
@Brad Google Hangouts (or the like), if you can.
– Wayne Werner
Jun 13 '16 at 18:07
7
7
@KlaymenDK I doubt total strangers on the internet will be running to provide funds for this situation.
– gerrit
Jun 14 '16 at 10:12
@KlaymenDK I doubt total strangers on the internet will be running to provide funds for this situation.
– gerrit
Jun 14 '16 at 10:12
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If you voluntarily exit, you will be fined 500 baht per day of overstay (maximum amount of 20,000 baht), you will not go to jail.
If you are caught by police overstaying, you will face criminal charges and higher fines. Jail time tends to alloted primarily for really long overstays (as in years), not for minor overstays.
If your overstay is less than 90 days, your passport will be marked as an overstay and any future visits will be subjected to proving your tourist intentions (departing tickets, funding, hotel bookings).
If your overstay is more than 90 days you will be banned from the country for 1 year in situation one (voluntary) or 5 years in situation two (arrested). Overstaying by one year would be 3 and 10 year bans respectively.
http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
If you can't pay the fine, you will be at the mercy of the immigration officer handling your case. He could simply clean out your wallet and send you packing home, he could press legal charges against you, he could choose to deport you which could have ramifications on future visas or visits anywhere, etc. You really need to secure funds before going to the airport, contact friends family back home, ask your buddies in Thailand, contact your embassy about loans, etc.
3
Yeah and most importantly, the immigration officer can detain you. Indefinitely if you cannot pay your ticket back.
– dan-klasson
Jun 14 '16 at 18:40
@dan-klasson OP has commented on the question that they do have a ticket home now.
– a CVn
Jun 15 '16 at 10:58
1
@MichaelKjörling: Yes, but maybe he loses this ticket, if arrested, and have to buy a new one.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 12:47
2
@QuoraFeans - one could argue a million whatifs, but that doesn't address the OP's specific questions.
– user13044
Jun 15 '16 at 15:24
6
@Tom: getting delayed by immigration and missing a flight at an airline company that does not allow re-schedule implies losing a ticket. I don't mean just a casual possibility, but something pretty probable.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:18
add a comment |
up vote
80
down vote
If you voluntarily exit, you will be fined 500 baht per day of overstay (maximum amount of 20,000 baht), you will not go to jail.
If you are caught by police overstaying, you will face criminal charges and higher fines. Jail time tends to alloted primarily for really long overstays (as in years), not for minor overstays.
If your overstay is less than 90 days, your passport will be marked as an overstay and any future visits will be subjected to proving your tourist intentions (departing tickets, funding, hotel bookings).
If your overstay is more than 90 days you will be banned from the country for 1 year in situation one (voluntary) or 5 years in situation two (arrested). Overstaying by one year would be 3 and 10 year bans respectively.
http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
If you can't pay the fine, you will be at the mercy of the immigration officer handling your case. He could simply clean out your wallet and send you packing home, he could press legal charges against you, he could choose to deport you which could have ramifications on future visas or visits anywhere, etc. You really need to secure funds before going to the airport, contact friends family back home, ask your buddies in Thailand, contact your embassy about loans, etc.
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Yeah and most importantly, the immigration officer can detain you. Indefinitely if you cannot pay your ticket back.
– dan-klasson
Jun 14 '16 at 18:40
@dan-klasson OP has commented on the question that they do have a ticket home now.
– a CVn
Jun 15 '16 at 10:58
1
@MichaelKjörling: Yes, but maybe he loses this ticket, if arrested, and have to buy a new one.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 12:47
2
@QuoraFeans - one could argue a million whatifs, but that doesn't address the OP's specific questions.
– user13044
Jun 15 '16 at 15:24
6
@Tom: getting delayed by immigration and missing a flight at an airline company that does not allow re-schedule implies losing a ticket. I don't mean just a casual possibility, but something pretty probable.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:18
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If you voluntarily exit, you will be fined 500 baht per day of overstay (maximum amount of 20,000 baht), you will not go to jail.
If you are caught by police overstaying, you will face criminal charges and higher fines. Jail time tends to alloted primarily for really long overstays (as in years), not for minor overstays.
If your overstay is less than 90 days, your passport will be marked as an overstay and any future visits will be subjected to proving your tourist intentions (departing tickets, funding, hotel bookings).
If your overstay is more than 90 days you will be banned from the country for 1 year in situation one (voluntary) or 5 years in situation two (arrested). Overstaying by one year would be 3 and 10 year bans respectively.
http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
If you can't pay the fine, you will be at the mercy of the immigration officer handling your case. He could simply clean out your wallet and send you packing home, he could press legal charges against you, he could choose to deport you which could have ramifications on future visas or visits anywhere, etc. You really need to secure funds before going to the airport, contact friends family back home, ask your buddies in Thailand, contact your embassy about loans, etc.
If you voluntarily exit, you will be fined 500 baht per day of overstay (maximum amount of 20,000 baht), you will not go to jail.
If you are caught by police overstaying, you will face criminal charges and higher fines. Jail time tends to alloted primarily for really long overstays (as in years), not for minor overstays.
If your overstay is less than 90 days, your passport will be marked as an overstay and any future visits will be subjected to proving your tourist intentions (departing tickets, funding, hotel bookings).
If your overstay is more than 90 days you will be banned from the country for 1 year in situation one (voluntary) or 5 years in situation two (arrested). Overstaying by one year would be 3 and 10 year bans respectively.
http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
If you can't pay the fine, you will be at the mercy of the immigration officer handling your case. He could simply clean out your wallet and send you packing home, he could press legal charges against you, he could choose to deport you which could have ramifications on future visas or visits anywhere, etc. You really need to secure funds before going to the airport, contact friends family back home, ask your buddies in Thailand, contact your embassy about loans, etc.
edited Jun 13 '16 at 23:38
Zach Lipton
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answered Jun 13 '16 at 13:11
user13044
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Yeah and most importantly, the immigration officer can detain you. Indefinitely if you cannot pay your ticket back.
– dan-klasson
Jun 14 '16 at 18:40
@dan-klasson OP has commented on the question that they do have a ticket home now.
– a CVn
Jun 15 '16 at 10:58
1
@MichaelKjörling: Yes, but maybe he loses this ticket, if arrested, and have to buy a new one.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 12:47
2
@QuoraFeans - one could argue a million whatifs, but that doesn't address the OP's specific questions.
– user13044
Jun 15 '16 at 15:24
6
@Tom: getting delayed by immigration and missing a flight at an airline company that does not allow re-schedule implies losing a ticket. I don't mean just a casual possibility, but something pretty probable.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:18
add a comment |
3
Yeah and most importantly, the immigration officer can detain you. Indefinitely if you cannot pay your ticket back.
– dan-klasson
Jun 14 '16 at 18:40
@dan-klasson OP has commented on the question that they do have a ticket home now.
– a CVn
Jun 15 '16 at 10:58
1
@MichaelKjörling: Yes, but maybe he loses this ticket, if arrested, and have to buy a new one.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 12:47
2
@QuoraFeans - one could argue a million whatifs, but that doesn't address the OP's specific questions.
– user13044
Jun 15 '16 at 15:24
6
@Tom: getting delayed by immigration and missing a flight at an airline company that does not allow re-schedule implies losing a ticket. I don't mean just a casual possibility, but something pretty probable.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:18
3
3
Yeah and most importantly, the immigration officer can detain you. Indefinitely if you cannot pay your ticket back.
– dan-klasson
Jun 14 '16 at 18:40
Yeah and most importantly, the immigration officer can detain you. Indefinitely if you cannot pay your ticket back.
– dan-klasson
Jun 14 '16 at 18:40
@dan-klasson OP has commented on the question that they do have a ticket home now.
– a CVn
Jun 15 '16 at 10:58
@dan-klasson OP has commented on the question that they do have a ticket home now.
– a CVn
Jun 15 '16 at 10:58
1
1
@MichaelKjörling: Yes, but maybe he loses this ticket, if arrested, and have to buy a new one.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 12:47
@MichaelKjörling: Yes, but maybe he loses this ticket, if arrested, and have to buy a new one.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 12:47
2
2
@QuoraFeans - one could argue a million whatifs, but that doesn't address the OP's specific questions.
– user13044
Jun 15 '16 at 15:24
@QuoraFeans - one could argue a million whatifs, but that doesn't address the OP's specific questions.
– user13044
Jun 15 '16 at 15:24
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6
@Tom: getting delayed by immigration and missing a flight at an airline company that does not allow re-schedule implies losing a ticket. I don't mean just a casual possibility, but something pretty probable.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:18
@Tom: getting delayed by immigration and missing a flight at an airline company that does not allow re-schedule implies losing a ticket. I don't mean just a casual possibility, but something pretty probable.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:18
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Here's what actually happened to the OP (as indicated in a comment):
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and
that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got
a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not
had the fine money... thanks for all the info people.
Someone suggested to the OP that this information is so valuable that it shouldn't be a mere comment, but edited into OP itself. I think OP should actually make this an answer himself, but until he does, I'm putting it here as a Community Wiki answer.
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I never saw the update, so thanks for highlighting it here. Glad the OP got out.
– Zach Lipton
Sep 18 '16 at 7:44
2
OP, if you see this answer, please consider making your own answer where you provide even more details. You can then comment on this answer and I will delete it.
– Revetahw
Sep 18 '16 at 7:56
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up vote
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down vote
Here's what actually happened to the OP (as indicated in a comment):
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and
that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got
a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not
had the fine money... thanks for all the info people.
Someone suggested to the OP that this information is so valuable that it shouldn't be a mere comment, but edited into OP itself. I think OP should actually make this an answer himself, but until he does, I'm putting it here as a Community Wiki answer.
8
I never saw the update, so thanks for highlighting it here. Glad the OP got out.
– Zach Lipton
Sep 18 '16 at 7:44
2
OP, if you see this answer, please consider making your own answer where you provide even more details. You can then comment on this answer and I will delete it.
– Revetahw
Sep 18 '16 at 7:56
add a comment |
up vote
38
down vote
up vote
38
down vote
Here's what actually happened to the OP (as indicated in a comment):
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and
that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got
a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not
had the fine money... thanks for all the info people.
Someone suggested to the OP that this information is so valuable that it shouldn't be a mere comment, but edited into OP itself. I think OP should actually make this an answer himself, but until he does, I'm putting it here as a Community Wiki answer.
Here's what actually happened to the OP (as indicated in a comment):
So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and
that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got
a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not
had the fine money... thanks for all the info people.
Someone suggested to the OP that this information is so valuable that it shouldn't be a mere comment, but edited into OP itself. I think OP should actually make this an answer himself, but until he does, I'm putting it here as a Community Wiki answer.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
community wiki
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Fiksdal
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I never saw the update, so thanks for highlighting it here. Glad the OP got out.
– Zach Lipton
Sep 18 '16 at 7:44
2
OP, if you see this answer, please consider making your own answer where you provide even more details. You can then comment on this answer and I will delete it.
– Revetahw
Sep 18 '16 at 7:56
add a comment |
8
I never saw the update, so thanks for highlighting it here. Glad the OP got out.
– Zach Lipton
Sep 18 '16 at 7:44
2
OP, if you see this answer, please consider making your own answer where you provide even more details. You can then comment on this answer and I will delete it.
– Revetahw
Sep 18 '16 at 7:56
8
8
I never saw the update, so thanks for highlighting it here. Glad the OP got out.
– Zach Lipton
Sep 18 '16 at 7:44
I never saw the update, so thanks for highlighting it here. Glad the OP got out.
– Zach Lipton
Sep 18 '16 at 7:44
2
2
OP, if you see this answer, please consider making your own answer where you provide even more details. You can then comment on this answer and I will delete it.
– Revetahw
Sep 18 '16 at 7:56
OP, if you see this answer, please consider making your own answer where you provide even more details. You can then comment on this answer and I will delete it.
– Revetahw
Sep 18 '16 at 7:56
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Let the US consulate know, when you plan to fly back.
Also ask them for advice. I am pretty sure this happens to other people.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
Do everything possible to gather the money. 20,000 bht is $600. Whatever you can sell to get these $600 will be worthwhile.
Report the situation to the nearest immigration office by yourself and come clean. If they catch you, things will be different. Do this with enough time before the flight, not just 2-3 hours before the flight. Otherwise, you could miss your flight.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html They draw a line between surrendering and being caught.
Do not approach immigration before you gathered the money.
1
Why the US consulate? Will they help the OP if he is not American?
– AndyBrown
Jun 15 '16 at 13:55
2
@AndyBrown: the OP is American.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 13:56
12
$600 is not much. Get it. Even dirt poor and broke as hell in the USA $600 is much better then jail time in a foreign prison. Borrow it, use a credit card or three, sell everything you own. Sell your car, your cloths, your house, your dog, everything if that's what it takes. If you end up in prison, it's just gonna make it so much worse.
– coteyr
Jun 15 '16 at 14:35
2
@coteyr: yes, and he will still need to pay to get out of prison. So, to pay or not to pay is not an option.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:20
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@VladimirGamalian: was he the punching bag?
– Quora Feans
Jun 22 '16 at 17:49
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up vote
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down vote
Let the US consulate know, when you plan to fly back.
Also ask them for advice. I am pretty sure this happens to other people.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
Do everything possible to gather the money. 20,000 bht is $600. Whatever you can sell to get these $600 will be worthwhile.
Report the situation to the nearest immigration office by yourself and come clean. If they catch you, things will be different. Do this with enough time before the flight, not just 2-3 hours before the flight. Otherwise, you could miss your flight.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html They draw a line between surrendering and being caught.
Do not approach immigration before you gathered the money.
1
Why the US consulate? Will they help the OP if he is not American?
– AndyBrown
Jun 15 '16 at 13:55
2
@AndyBrown: the OP is American.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 13:56
12
$600 is not much. Get it. Even dirt poor and broke as hell in the USA $600 is much better then jail time in a foreign prison. Borrow it, use a credit card or three, sell everything you own. Sell your car, your cloths, your house, your dog, everything if that's what it takes. If you end up in prison, it's just gonna make it so much worse.
– coteyr
Jun 15 '16 at 14:35
2
@coteyr: yes, and he will still need to pay to get out of prison. So, to pay or not to pay is not an option.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:20
4
@VladimirGamalian: was he the punching bag?
– Quora Feans
Jun 22 '16 at 17:49
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show 1 more comment
up vote
9
down vote
up vote
9
down vote
Let the US consulate know, when you plan to fly back.
Also ask them for advice. I am pretty sure this happens to other people.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
Do everything possible to gather the money. 20,000 bht is $600. Whatever you can sell to get these $600 will be worthwhile.
Report the situation to the nearest immigration office by yourself and come clean. If they catch you, things will be different. Do this with enough time before the flight, not just 2-3 hours before the flight. Otherwise, you could miss your flight.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html They draw a line between surrendering and being caught.
Do not approach immigration before you gathered the money.
Let the US consulate know, when you plan to fly back.
Also ask them for advice. I am pretty sure this happens to other people.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html
Do everything possible to gather the money. 20,000 bht is $600. Whatever you can sell to get these $600 will be worthwhile.
Report the situation to the nearest immigration office by yourself and come clean. If they catch you, things will be different. Do this with enough time before the flight, not just 2-3 hours before the flight. Otherwise, you could miss your flight.
This is the official Thai gov advice: http://overstay.immigration.go.th/advice.html They draw a line between surrendering and being caught.
Do not approach immigration before you gathered the money.
edited Jun 15 '16 at 13:03
answered Jun 15 '16 at 12:56
Quora Feans
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1,85111127
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Why the US consulate? Will they help the OP if he is not American?
– AndyBrown
Jun 15 '16 at 13:55
2
@AndyBrown: the OP is American.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 13:56
12
$600 is not much. Get it. Even dirt poor and broke as hell in the USA $600 is much better then jail time in a foreign prison. Borrow it, use a credit card or three, sell everything you own. Sell your car, your cloths, your house, your dog, everything if that's what it takes. If you end up in prison, it's just gonna make it so much worse.
– coteyr
Jun 15 '16 at 14:35
2
@coteyr: yes, and he will still need to pay to get out of prison. So, to pay or not to pay is not an option.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:20
4
@VladimirGamalian: was he the punching bag?
– Quora Feans
Jun 22 '16 at 17:49
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show 1 more comment
1
Why the US consulate? Will they help the OP if he is not American?
– AndyBrown
Jun 15 '16 at 13:55
2
@AndyBrown: the OP is American.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 13:56
12
$600 is not much. Get it. Even dirt poor and broke as hell in the USA $600 is much better then jail time in a foreign prison. Borrow it, use a credit card or three, sell everything you own. Sell your car, your cloths, your house, your dog, everything if that's what it takes. If you end up in prison, it's just gonna make it so much worse.
– coteyr
Jun 15 '16 at 14:35
2
@coteyr: yes, and he will still need to pay to get out of prison. So, to pay or not to pay is not an option.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:20
4
@VladimirGamalian: was he the punching bag?
– Quora Feans
Jun 22 '16 at 17:49
1
1
Why the US consulate? Will they help the OP if he is not American?
– AndyBrown
Jun 15 '16 at 13:55
Why the US consulate? Will they help the OP if he is not American?
– AndyBrown
Jun 15 '16 at 13:55
2
2
@AndyBrown: the OP is American.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 13:56
@AndyBrown: the OP is American.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 13:56
12
12
$600 is not much. Get it. Even dirt poor and broke as hell in the USA $600 is much better then jail time in a foreign prison. Borrow it, use a credit card or three, sell everything you own. Sell your car, your cloths, your house, your dog, everything if that's what it takes. If you end up in prison, it's just gonna make it so much worse.
– coteyr
Jun 15 '16 at 14:35
$600 is not much. Get it. Even dirt poor and broke as hell in the USA $600 is much better then jail time in a foreign prison. Borrow it, use a credit card or three, sell everything you own. Sell your car, your cloths, your house, your dog, everything if that's what it takes. If you end up in prison, it's just gonna make it so much worse.
– coteyr
Jun 15 '16 at 14:35
2
2
@coteyr: yes, and he will still need to pay to get out of prison. So, to pay or not to pay is not an option.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:20
@coteyr: yes, and he will still need to pay to get out of prison. So, to pay or not to pay is not an option.
– Quora Feans
Jun 15 '16 at 17:20
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4
@VladimirGamalian: was he the punching bag?
– Quora Feans
Jun 22 '16 at 17:49
@VladimirGamalian: was he the punching bag?
– Quora Feans
Jun 22 '16 at 17:49
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Let us know when you got out of Thailand. Else we can place a banner around your user profile [DETAINED]. Good luck.
– Patrick Hofman
Jun 13 '16 at 12:33
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Although it's a minor issue, I'm struggling to understand how a missed plane turned into multi-month over stay. You might reconsider using that as your excuse.
– NotMe
Jun 13 '16 at 19:44
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@NotMe It may have started with a non-refundable non-changeable ticket and insufficient funds to buy a replacement. At that point belak should have immediately contacted their country's consulate or embassy to ask for help and advice.
– Patricia Shanahan
Jun 13 '16 at 21:50
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Also note that you are not allowed to work in Thailand, like most countries, on a tourist visa. You would need some sort of Thai work permit for that. Working illegally could greatly compound your problems, plus you'd be working for the kind of people who hire illegal workers, which could leave you with little recourse if things go south.
– Zach Lipton
Jun 14 '16 at 5:26
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So I got to the airport and paid the fine and signed some papers and that was it... booted for a year, but that was it... last minute I got a loan for the fine... I'm sure it would've been different had I not had the fine money... thanks for all the info people
– belak
Aug 5 '16 at 3:35