What happens to my existing visa if I get another visa from the same country?
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I am holding a C type Schengen visa received from Italy, valid from August 2017 to February 2018. On November 2017, I received another visa from Italy, this time D type National visa (not Schengen); it's for work purposes and it is valid for 1 year. Did my C type visa lose its validity after the issue of the National visa?
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I am holding a C type Schengen visa received from Italy, valid from August 2017 to February 2018. On November 2017, I received another visa from Italy, this time D type National visa (not Schengen); it's for work purposes and it is valid for 1 year. Did my C type visa lose its validity after the issue of the National visa?
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I presume they did not cancel the C visa by writing or stamping on it. My question to you is why do you want to know? The C visa expires before the D visa, so you derive no benefit from the C visa.
– phoog
Dec 28 '17 at 19:13
No they didn't do anything on it, no stamp or no indication about cancelling it. I would like to know because according to the Italian law before receiving "permesso di soggiorno" I am not allowed to move around in Schengen zone with the D visa as it is my first application for it.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:39
poliziadistato.it/articolo/10722 It's written in the website of the state police
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Dec 29 '17 at 8:56
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I am holding a C type Schengen visa received from Italy, valid from August 2017 to February 2018. On November 2017, I received another visa from Italy, this time D type National visa (not Schengen); it's for work purposes and it is valid for 1 year. Did my C type visa lose its validity after the issue of the National visa?
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I am holding a C type Schengen visa received from Italy, valid from August 2017 to February 2018. On November 2017, I received another visa from Italy, this time D type National visa (not Schengen); it's for work purposes and it is valid for 1 year. Did my C type visa lose its validity after the issue of the National visa?
visas schengen italy long-stay-visas visa-cancellation
visas schengen italy long-stay-visas visa-cancellation
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I presume they did not cancel the C visa by writing or stamping on it. My question to you is why do you want to know? The C visa expires before the D visa, so you derive no benefit from the C visa.
– phoog
Dec 28 '17 at 19:13
No they didn't do anything on it, no stamp or no indication about cancelling it. I would like to know because according to the Italian law before receiving "permesso di soggiorno" I am not allowed to move around in Schengen zone with the D visa as it is my first application for it.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:39
poliziadistato.it/articolo/10722 It's written in the website of the state police
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:56
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I presume they did not cancel the C visa by writing or stamping on it. My question to you is why do you want to know? The C visa expires before the D visa, so you derive no benefit from the C visa.
– phoog
Dec 28 '17 at 19:13
No they didn't do anything on it, no stamp or no indication about cancelling it. I would like to know because according to the Italian law before receiving "permesso di soggiorno" I am not allowed to move around in Schengen zone with the D visa as it is my first application for it.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:39
poliziadistato.it/articolo/10722 It's written in the website of the state police
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:56
I presume they did not cancel the C visa by writing or stamping on it. My question to you is why do you want to know? The C visa expires before the D visa, so you derive no benefit from the C visa.
– phoog
Dec 28 '17 at 19:13
I presume they did not cancel the C visa by writing or stamping on it. My question to you is why do you want to know? The C visa expires before the D visa, so you derive no benefit from the C visa.
– phoog
Dec 28 '17 at 19:13
No they didn't do anything on it, no stamp or no indication about cancelling it. I would like to know because according to the Italian law before receiving "permesso di soggiorno" I am not allowed to move around in Schengen zone with the D visa as it is my first application for it.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:39
No they didn't do anything on it, no stamp or no indication about cancelling it. I would like to know because according to the Italian law before receiving "permesso di soggiorno" I am not allowed to move around in Schengen zone with the D visa as it is my first application for it.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:39
poliziadistato.it/articolo/10722 It's written in the website of the state police
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:56
poliziadistato.it/articolo/10722 It's written in the website of the state police
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Dec 29 '17 at 8:56
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It does not matter.
Your D visa gives you extended rights to stay in Italy and has for all practical purposes the same validity as a C visa in all other Schengen countries.
answered Dec 29 '17 at 0:56
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Unfortunately not. As I mentioned on my reply to @phoog 's comment, the italian law doesn't let the first-time applicants to go around schengen zone even with the receipt issued by the Italian post office after the application for "permesso di soggiorno". So C type visa would make the difference at this point when I go some other country in schengen zone. But i can't really confirm if it's still valid or not. Some resources say after the second visa was issued, the first one loses its validity; some say it is still valid.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:49
@cleo456 The web page you are lnking to states correctly, that you are not allowed to enter other Schengen states only holding an Italian receipt for your residence permit application. It does not say that applying for a residence permit invalidates your D visa, with which you (independent of Italian law) is entitled to enter other Schengen states as if you had a C visa.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Dec 29 '17 at 9:57
Applying for a residence permit doesn't invalidate my D visa, yes that's right. D visa itself is the one that lets me stay in Italy for 1 year, so in this time period I can do the procedures to get the residence card.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:42
But i don't know whether the issuance of D visa caused my C visa to get invalidated (because both are issued by Italy). And if the C visa is invalid, it means I am not able to travel to other schengen countries. I may even need to apply for a schengen visa from another country in order to be able to move around schengen zone.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:44
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@cleo456 you can go to other Schengen countries with the D visa. Nothing on the page you linked to contradicts that.
– phoog
Dec 29 '17 at 12:58
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1 Answer
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It does not matter.
Your D visa gives you extended rights to stay in Italy and has for all practical purposes the same validity as a C visa in all other Schengen countries.
answered Dec 29 '17 at 0:56
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
28.1k270107
Unfortunately not. As I mentioned on my reply to @phoog 's comment, the italian law doesn't let the first-time applicants to go around schengen zone even with the receipt issued by the Italian post office after the application for "permesso di soggiorno". So C type visa would make the difference at this point when I go some other country in schengen zone. But i can't really confirm if it's still valid or not. Some resources say after the second visa was issued, the first one loses its validity; some say it is still valid.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:49
@cleo456 The web page you are lnking to states correctly, that you are not allowed to enter other Schengen states only holding an Italian receipt for your residence permit application. It does not say that applying for a residence permit invalidates your D visa, with which you (independent of Italian law) is entitled to enter other Schengen states as if you had a C visa.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Dec 29 '17 at 9:57
Applying for a residence permit doesn't invalidate my D visa, yes that's right. D visa itself is the one that lets me stay in Italy for 1 year, so in this time period I can do the procedures to get the residence card.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:42
But i don't know whether the issuance of D visa caused my C visa to get invalidated (because both are issued by Italy). And if the C visa is invalid, it means I am not able to travel to other schengen countries. I may even need to apply for a schengen visa from another country in order to be able to move around schengen zone.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:44
1
@cleo456 you can go to other Schengen countries with the D visa. Nothing on the page you linked to contradicts that.
– phoog
Dec 29 '17 at 12:58
 |Â
show 6 more comments
up vote
3
down vote
It does not matter.
Your D visa gives you extended rights to stay in Italy and has for all practical purposes the same validity as a C visa in all other Schengen countries.
answered Dec 29 '17 at 0:56
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
28.1k270107
Unfortunately not. As I mentioned on my reply to @phoog 's comment, the italian law doesn't let the first-time applicants to go around schengen zone even with the receipt issued by the Italian post office after the application for "permesso di soggiorno". So C type visa would make the difference at this point when I go some other country in schengen zone. But i can't really confirm if it's still valid or not. Some resources say after the second visa was issued, the first one loses its validity; some say it is still valid.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:49
@cleo456 The web page you are lnking to states correctly, that you are not allowed to enter other Schengen states only holding an Italian receipt for your residence permit application. It does not say that applying for a residence permit invalidates your D visa, with which you (independent of Italian law) is entitled to enter other Schengen states as if you had a C visa.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Dec 29 '17 at 9:57
Applying for a residence permit doesn't invalidate my D visa, yes that's right. D visa itself is the one that lets me stay in Italy for 1 year, so in this time period I can do the procedures to get the residence card.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:42
But i don't know whether the issuance of D visa caused my C visa to get invalidated (because both are issued by Italy). And if the C visa is invalid, it means I am not able to travel to other schengen countries. I may even need to apply for a schengen visa from another country in order to be able to move around schengen zone.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:44
1
@cleo456 you can go to other Schengen countries with the D visa. Nothing on the page you linked to contradicts that.
– phoog
Dec 29 '17 at 12:58
 |Â
show 6 more comments
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
It does not matter.
Your D visa gives you extended rights to stay in Italy and has for all practical purposes the same validity as a C visa in all other Schengen countries.
answered Dec 29 '17 at 0:56
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
28.1k270107
It does not matter.
Your D visa gives you extended rights to stay in Italy and has for all practical purposes the same validity as a C visa in all other Schengen countries.
answered Dec 29 '17 at 0:56
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
28.1k270107
answered Dec 29 '17 at 0:56
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
28.1k270107
answered Dec 29 '17 at 0:56
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
28.1k270107
answered Dec 29 '17 at 0:56
Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
28.1k270107
28.1k270107
Unfortunately not. As I mentioned on my reply to @phoog 's comment, the italian law doesn't let the first-time applicants to go around schengen zone even with the receipt issued by the Italian post office after the application for "permesso di soggiorno". So C type visa would make the difference at this point when I go some other country in schengen zone. But i can't really confirm if it's still valid or not. Some resources say after the second visa was issued, the first one loses its validity; some say it is still valid.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:49
@cleo456 The web page you are lnking to states correctly, that you are not allowed to enter other Schengen states only holding an Italian receipt for your residence permit application. It does not say that applying for a residence permit invalidates your D visa, with which you (independent of Italian law) is entitled to enter other Schengen states as if you had a C visa.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Dec 29 '17 at 9:57
Applying for a residence permit doesn't invalidate my D visa, yes that's right. D visa itself is the one that lets me stay in Italy for 1 year, so in this time period I can do the procedures to get the residence card.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:42
But i don't know whether the issuance of D visa caused my C visa to get invalidated (because both are issued by Italy). And if the C visa is invalid, it means I am not able to travel to other schengen countries. I may even need to apply for a schengen visa from another country in order to be able to move around schengen zone.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:44
1
@cleo456 you can go to other Schengen countries with the D visa. Nothing on the page you linked to contradicts that.
– phoog
Dec 29 '17 at 12:58
 |Â
show 6 more comments
Unfortunately not. As I mentioned on my reply to @phoog 's comment, the italian law doesn't let the first-time applicants to go around schengen zone even with the receipt issued by the Italian post office after the application for "permesso di soggiorno". So C type visa would make the difference at this point when I go some other country in schengen zone. But i can't really confirm if it's still valid or not. Some resources say after the second visa was issued, the first one loses its validity; some say it is still valid.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:49
@cleo456 The web page you are lnking to states correctly, that you are not allowed to enter other Schengen states only holding an Italian receipt for your residence permit application. It does not say that applying for a residence permit invalidates your D visa, with which you (independent of Italian law) is entitled to enter other Schengen states as if you had a C visa.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Dec 29 '17 at 9:57
Applying for a residence permit doesn't invalidate my D visa, yes that's right. D visa itself is the one that lets me stay in Italy for 1 year, so in this time period I can do the procedures to get the residence card.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:42
But i don't know whether the issuance of D visa caused my C visa to get invalidated (because both are issued by Italy). And if the C visa is invalid, it means I am not able to travel to other schengen countries. I may even need to apply for a schengen visa from another country in order to be able to move around schengen zone.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:44
1
@cleo456 you can go to other Schengen countries with the D visa. Nothing on the page you linked to contradicts that.
– phoog
Dec 29 '17 at 12:58
Unfortunately not. As I mentioned on my reply to @phoog 's comment, the italian law doesn't let the first-time applicants to go around schengen zone even with the receipt issued by the Italian post office after the application for "permesso di soggiorno". So C type visa would make the difference at this point when I go some other country in schengen zone. But i can't really confirm if it's still valid or not. Some resources say after the second visa was issued, the first one loses its validity; some say it is still valid.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:49
Unfortunately not. As I mentioned on my reply to @phoog 's comment, the italian law doesn't let the first-time applicants to go around schengen zone even with the receipt issued by the Italian post office after the application for "permesso di soggiorno". So C type visa would make the difference at this point when I go some other country in schengen zone. But i can't really confirm if it's still valid or not. Some resources say after the second visa was issued, the first one loses its validity; some say it is still valid.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:49
@cleo456 The web page you are lnking to states correctly, that you are not allowed to enter other Schengen states only holding an Italian receipt for your residence permit application. It does not say that applying for a residence permit invalidates your D visa, with which you (independent of Italian law) is entitled to enter other Schengen states as if you had a C visa.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Dec 29 '17 at 9:57
@cleo456 The web page you are lnking to states correctly, that you are not allowed to enter other Schengen states only holding an Italian receipt for your residence permit application. It does not say that applying for a residence permit invalidates your D visa, with which you (independent of Italian law) is entitled to enter other Schengen states as if you had a C visa.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Dec 29 '17 at 9:57
Applying for a residence permit doesn't invalidate my D visa, yes that's right. D visa itself is the one that lets me stay in Italy for 1 year, so in this time period I can do the procedures to get the residence card.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:42
Applying for a residence permit doesn't invalidate my D visa, yes that's right. D visa itself is the one that lets me stay in Italy for 1 year, so in this time period I can do the procedures to get the residence card.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:42
But i don't know whether the issuance of D visa caused my C visa to get invalidated (because both are issued by Italy). And if the C visa is invalid, it means I am not able to travel to other schengen countries. I may even need to apply for a schengen visa from another country in order to be able to move around schengen zone.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:44
But i don't know whether the issuance of D visa caused my C visa to get invalidated (because both are issued by Italy). And if the C visa is invalid, it means I am not able to travel to other schengen countries. I may even need to apply for a schengen visa from another country in order to be able to move around schengen zone.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 10:44
1
1
@cleo456 you can go to other Schengen countries with the D visa. Nothing on the page you linked to contradicts that.
– phoog
Dec 29 '17 at 12:58
@cleo456 you can go to other Schengen countries with the D visa. Nothing on the page you linked to contradicts that.
– phoog
Dec 29 '17 at 12:58
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I presume they did not cancel the C visa by writing or stamping on it. My question to you is why do you want to know? The C visa expires before the D visa, so you derive no benefit from the C visa.
– phoog
Dec 28 '17 at 19:13
No they didn't do anything on it, no stamp or no indication about cancelling it. I would like to know because according to the Italian law before receiving "permesso di soggiorno" I am not allowed to move around in Schengen zone with the D visa as it is my first application for it.
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:39
poliziadistato.it/articolo/10722 It's written in the website of the state police
– cleo456
Dec 29 '17 at 8:56