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I would like to travel in the USA for a period of 3 - 6 months. But I want to spend some time working for my employer (remote work) and getting paid by the employer. Is this possible under a tourist visa (B1/B2)?



I hope this is OK since I will not be getting paid by a US employer. I am in the IT trade so all that I will be needing is my own laptop and a connection to the internet. The money I earn would actually help me pay for the expenses I get during the holiday.










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  • you want or you will? Could your problem be rephrased as : Your non-US employer would pay you in another country while you are working in the US, and you're asking which visa you'd need?

    – Vince
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  • Thanks for the reply. My non-us employer has no issues paying me for my work during the holiday in the US. My question is whether US will like that arrangement and allow me in to the country as a Business/Visitor B1 Visa in to US and allow me to stay for a period of 3 - 6 months.

    – Ruch
    Jan 15 '13 at 9:06







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    This is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.

    – Karlson
    Jan 15 '13 at 14:49






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    Thank you all for your input as it helped me a lot. Just to follow up on how it went down if anyone is interested, I had no issues at the border control at US. I had a letter from my employer prepared in case it was required but it wasn't needed. Border protection agent did raise the question of why coming in to US shores for such a long period and they were satisfied with my answer which was to visit the country while working remotely for my overseas employer

    – Ruch
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    @Ruch - can you tell what letter from your employer did you have? Did it state that you're a remote worker?

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I would like to travel in the USA for a period of 3 - 6 months. But I want to spend some time working for my employer (remote work) and getting paid by the employer. Is this possible under a tourist visa (B1/B2)?



I hope this is OK since I will not be getting paid by a US employer. I am in the IT trade so all that I will be needing is my own laptop and a connection to the internet. The money I earn would actually help me pay for the expenses I get during the holiday.










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  • you want or you will? Could your problem be rephrased as : Your non-US employer would pay you in another country while you are working in the US, and you're asking which visa you'd need?

    – Vince
    Jan 15 '13 at 8:42











  • Thanks for the reply. My non-us employer has no issues paying me for my work during the holiday in the US. My question is whether US will like that arrangement and allow me in to the country as a Business/Visitor B1 Visa in to US and allow me to stay for a period of 3 - 6 months.

    – Ruch
    Jan 15 '13 at 9:06







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    This is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.

    – Karlson
    Jan 15 '13 at 14:49






  • 4





    Thank you all for your input as it helped me a lot. Just to follow up on how it went down if anyone is interested, I had no issues at the border control at US. I had a letter from my employer prepared in case it was required but it wasn't needed. Border protection agent did raise the question of why coming in to US shores for such a long period and they were satisfied with my answer which was to visit the country while working remotely for my overseas employer

    – Ruch
    May 10 '13 at 18:07







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    @Ruch - can you tell what letter from your employer did you have? Did it state that you're a remote worker?

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I would like to travel in the USA for a period of 3 - 6 months. But I want to spend some time working for my employer (remote work) and getting paid by the employer. Is this possible under a tourist visa (B1/B2)?



I hope this is OK since I will not be getting paid by a US employer. I am in the IT trade so all that I will be needing is my own laptop and a connection to the internet. The money I earn would actually help me pay for the expenses I get during the holiday.










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I would like to travel in the USA for a period of 3 - 6 months. But I want to spend some time working for my employer (remote work) and getting paid by the employer. Is this possible under a tourist visa (B1/B2)?



I hope this is OK since I will not be getting paid by a US employer. I am in the IT trade so all that I will be needing is my own laptop and a connection to the internet. The money I earn would actually help me pay for the expenses I get during the holiday.







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  • you want or you will? Could your problem be rephrased as : Your non-US employer would pay you in another country while you are working in the US, and you're asking which visa you'd need?

    – Vince
    Jan 15 '13 at 8:42











  • Thanks for the reply. My non-us employer has no issues paying me for my work during the holiday in the US. My question is whether US will like that arrangement and allow me in to the country as a Business/Visitor B1 Visa in to US and allow me to stay for a period of 3 - 6 months.

    – Ruch
    Jan 15 '13 at 9:06







  • 8





    This is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.

    – Karlson
    Jan 15 '13 at 14:49






  • 4





    Thank you all for your input as it helped me a lot. Just to follow up on how it went down if anyone is interested, I had no issues at the border control at US. I had a letter from my employer prepared in case it was required but it wasn't needed. Border protection agent did raise the question of why coming in to US shores for such a long period and they were satisfied with my answer which was to visit the country while working remotely for my overseas employer

    – Ruch
    May 10 '13 at 18:07







  • 1





    @Ruch - can you tell what letter from your employer did you have? Did it state that you're a remote worker?

    – Aidas
    Mar 25 '15 at 14:38

















  • you want or you will? Could your problem be rephrased as : Your non-US employer would pay you in another country while you are working in the US, and you're asking which visa you'd need?

    – Vince
    Jan 15 '13 at 8:42











  • Thanks for the reply. My non-us employer has no issues paying me for my work during the holiday in the US. My question is whether US will like that arrangement and allow me in to the country as a Business/Visitor B1 Visa in to US and allow me to stay for a period of 3 - 6 months.

    – Ruch
    Jan 15 '13 at 9:06







  • 8





    This is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.

    – Karlson
    Jan 15 '13 at 14:49






  • 4





    Thank you all for your input as it helped me a lot. Just to follow up on how it went down if anyone is interested, I had no issues at the border control at US. I had a letter from my employer prepared in case it was required but it wasn't needed. Border protection agent did raise the question of why coming in to US shores for such a long period and they were satisfied with my answer which was to visit the country while working remotely for my overseas employer

    – Ruch
    May 10 '13 at 18:07







  • 1





    @Ruch - can you tell what letter from your employer did you have? Did it state that you're a remote worker?

    – Aidas
    Mar 25 '15 at 14:38
















you want or you will? Could your problem be rephrased as : Your non-US employer would pay you in another country while you are working in the US, and you're asking which visa you'd need?

– Vince
Jan 15 '13 at 8:42





you want or you will? Could your problem be rephrased as : Your non-US employer would pay you in another country while you are working in the US, and you're asking which visa you'd need?

– Vince
Jan 15 '13 at 8:42













Thanks for the reply. My non-us employer has no issues paying me for my work during the holiday in the US. My question is whether US will like that arrangement and allow me in to the country as a Business/Visitor B1 Visa in to US and allow me to stay for a period of 3 - 6 months.

– Ruch
Jan 15 '13 at 9:06






Thanks for the reply. My non-us employer has no issues paying me for my work during the holiday in the US. My question is whether US will like that arrangement and allow me in to the country as a Business/Visitor B1 Visa in to US and allow me to stay for a period of 3 - 6 months.

– Ruch
Jan 15 '13 at 9:06





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This is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.

– Karlson
Jan 15 '13 at 14:49





This is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.

– Karlson
Jan 15 '13 at 14:49




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Thank you all for your input as it helped me a lot. Just to follow up on how it went down if anyone is interested, I had no issues at the border control at US. I had a letter from my employer prepared in case it was required but it wasn't needed. Border protection agent did raise the question of why coming in to US shores for such a long period and they were satisfied with my answer which was to visit the country while working remotely for my overseas employer

– Ruch
May 10 '13 at 18:07






Thank you all for your input as it helped me a lot. Just to follow up on how it went down if anyone is interested, I had no issues at the border control at US. I had a letter from my employer prepared in case it was required but it wasn't needed. Border protection agent did raise the question of why coming in to US shores for such a long period and they were satisfied with my answer which was to visit the country while working remotely for my overseas employer

– Ruch
May 10 '13 at 18:07





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@Ruch - can you tell what letter from your employer did you have? Did it state that you're a remote worker?

– Aidas
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@Ruch - can you tell what letter from your employer did you have? Did it state that you're a remote worker?

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What you are describing is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.



To be more specific I found several sites explaining the differences between B1/B2 and H visas in more laymen's terms, so you can try to read up on that to make your determination:



  • Workpermit

  • Wikipedia

And last but not least



  • State Department





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    How important is the "your travel is not employment related" part? Does the US distinguish between "I am here to take my kids to Disney, but will code in the evenings" and "I am here to meet with the US clients of my non-US employer all day, plus I will code in the evenings on their project" ?

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  • If you answer the question of "What is the purpose of your visit" exactly as you put it the Immigration officer at the border or State Department official at a US consulate will likely err on the side of caution and make it a B1 and depending on what country you're from Visa may be denied altogether.

    – Karlson
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    @KateGregory This distinction is important. If you are primarily in the country to work for your non-US employer, which has dealings in the US, then you cannot enter/stay on a B1/B2. See the case of the Russian Boeing engineers here: seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/… and also user16885's answer.

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My visa was immediately rejected when I mentioned that I was planning to work for a German company while in the States, with the reasoning that I was planning to work there.



As you can read in this article, the US tax law states that every income from abroad of more than 3000 $ per year counts as a US income (which means that taxes need to be paid in the US). With a B1/B2 visa, you are not allowed to have a US income. Now, this seems to be an ongoing debate among lawyers, and some argue that the tax law is independent from the immigration law. But in the end, the law does not count, but the personal choice of the immigration officer does.



I would thus recommed to not mention such a job in the visa interview, or try to suspend the job during the stay in the US.






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    I know this is old, but I was reading through this question. This user says "in the end, the law does not count, but..." This is wrong. As far as the relatively simple act of entering the US goes, you're right, the tax law plays no part in the determination of Border Control. Also, a person who works remotely will have an extremely high chance of never being noticed. The fact remains, that the tax laws of the US still apply to work being done within the US borders. If you earn more than the amount stated in the law, you are liable for US taxes, period.

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I was denied a visa by telling I may work remotely while on US, now I realize that I may have phrased this in a way that was too open the first time.



Second time I clarified on the application that I worked from home as a freelancer for companies of my country and that these companies only employ local freelancers, and it was approved.
I guess that was because of the fact that my work, despite of being done remotely, do not have any chance of taking work away from US workers.



Internet makes borders blurry, so you have to make sure you phrase your case correctly, not only on your visa application and interview but also at the point of entry if the officer asks questions about your work, a lot depends on the mood of the officer as well






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    I was denied re-entry into the USA as a Canadian due to mentioning that I had been working as an independent contractor. My Fiance lived in the USA and I am barred from entering/ applying for visa for 6 months. Also, I have to present US income tax proof * and * canadian income tax proof. The officer treated me like a criminal and I was escorted out of the border security office while missing my flight.



    SO, if you can avoid it, never give them any information at all.






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      The intent of the law is to preserve U.S. work for U.S. workers. Everything else is fuzzy.



      From the USCIS web site: "Employment — Any service or labor performed by an employee for an employer within the United States, but not including casual domestic employment or duties performed by nonimmigrant crewmen (D-1 or D-2)."



      You can't be employed on a "B" visa. As an attorney I could argue that "within the United States" applies to the employer, but if I was prosecution and someone cared enough to push it, the phrase could apply to the physical location of the employee and be grounds for removal from the United States.



      So look at the intent. Can anything I might do take work away from legal U.S. workers?



      As for user16885, I suspect that you said something in the interview that indicated you would be doing "employment". If you have a transcript (which you don't, because there is no appeal from a State Department decision on things like this) I could probably pick it out.






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        As somone already pointed out, there is no need to even mention that you will be working remotely for your foreign employer to US customs because in some ways it is irrelevant, on the other hand, you might find it challenging to explain how its possible for you to vacation for such a long period of time, and who vacations for such a long period anyway? That's when it might work against you.






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          3 - 6 months of vacationing can be interpreted as an intent to immigrate. You need to provide the immigration officer with a clear view of you intentions during your stay in US soil. What will you be doing for so long? Where will you stay? Do you have any friends or relatives in the USA? Are they legal? Will you attend any educational institution?






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            Tourist visas do not allow you to work as employed in the issuing country. But, they do not prohibit you from doing your 'home' work while on vacation.



            So anyone from anywhere who is working on their laptop or smartphone while on short or long vacation is not under any penalty.



            You can do your work/ personal stuff there, as long as your employment i.e. employer-employee relationship has no direct legal, financial bindings with the destination country of tourism.



            PS: For all technical purposes, you are not going to work in the US, even if you are remotely working for your German employer. It is stupid for you to mention that. Why?



            What is your intended relationship with US/ US Consulate/ US Visa - as a tourist.. right..?



            Whether you go there and check your Germany work email or do some presentations remotely for your Germany company or take up a dance class for a few weekends, it is outside of the domain of your relationship with the US.






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              Since so many people liked the comment I thought I'd turn it into an answer.



              What you are describing is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.



              To be more specific I found several sites explaining the differences between B1/B2 and H visas in more laymen's terms, so you can try to read up on that to make your determination:



              • Workpermit

              • Wikipedia

              And last but not least



              • State Department





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                How important is the "your travel is not employment related" part? Does the US distinguish between "I am here to take my kids to Disney, but will code in the evenings" and "I am here to meet with the US clients of my non-US employer all day, plus I will code in the evenings on their project" ?

                – Kate Gregory
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              • If you answer the question of "What is the purpose of your visit" exactly as you put it the Immigration officer at the border or State Department official at a US consulate will likely err on the side of caution and make it a B1 and depending on what country you're from Visa may be denied altogether.

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                @KateGregory This distinction is important. If you are primarily in the country to work for your non-US employer, which has dealings in the US, then you cannot enter/stay on a B1/B2. See the case of the Russian Boeing engineers here: seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/… and also user16885's answer.

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                Your state department link is dead.

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              • @phoog After 4.5 years ....

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              Since so many people liked the comment I thought I'd turn it into an answer.



              What you are describing is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.



              To be more specific I found several sites explaining the differences between B1/B2 and H visas in more laymen's terms, so you can try to read up on that to make your determination:



              • Workpermit

              • Wikipedia

              And last but not least



              • State Department





              share|improve this answer


















              • 4





                How important is the "your travel is not employment related" part? Does the US distinguish between "I am here to take my kids to Disney, but will code in the evenings" and "I am here to meet with the US clients of my non-US employer all day, plus I will code in the evenings on their project" ?

                – Kate Gregory
                Jan 16 '13 at 17:02











              • If you answer the question of "What is the purpose of your visit" exactly as you put it the Immigration officer at the border or State Department official at a US consulate will likely err on the side of caution and make it a B1 and depending on what country you're from Visa may be denied altogether.

                – Karlson
                Jan 16 '13 at 17:12







              • 3





                @KateGregory This distinction is important. If you are primarily in the country to work for your non-US employer, which has dealings in the US, then you cannot enter/stay on a B1/B2. See the case of the Russian Boeing engineers here: seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/… and also user16885's answer.

                – imoatama
                Aug 12 '14 at 1:19






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                Your state department link is dead.

                – phoog
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              • @phoog After 4.5 years ....

                – Karlson
                Jun 6 '17 at 16:34













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              Since so many people liked the comment I thought I'd turn it into an answer.



              What you are describing is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.



              To be more specific I found several sites explaining the differences between B1/B2 and H visas in more laymen's terms, so you can try to read up on that to make your determination:



              • Workpermit

              • Wikipedia

              And last but not least



              • State Department





              share|improve this answer













              Since so many people liked the comment I thought I'd turn it into an answer.



              What you are describing is done all the time by the US and non-US employees on their vacations/holidays. Technically while you are doing work in while being on US soil you are not working in the US since you're not being employed by a US employer and your travel to the US is not employment related, so apply for a tourist visa and you should be fine.



              To be more specific I found several sites explaining the differences between B1/B2 and H visas in more laymen's terms, so you can try to read up on that to make your determination:



              • Workpermit

              • Wikipedia

              And last but not least



              • State Department






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                How important is the "your travel is not employment related" part? Does the US distinguish between "I am here to take my kids to Disney, but will code in the evenings" and "I am here to meet with the US clients of my non-US employer all day, plus I will code in the evenings on their project" ?

                – Kate Gregory
                Jan 16 '13 at 17:02











              • If you answer the question of "What is the purpose of your visit" exactly as you put it the Immigration officer at the border or State Department official at a US consulate will likely err on the side of caution and make it a B1 and depending on what country you're from Visa may be denied altogether.

                – Karlson
                Jan 16 '13 at 17:12







              • 3





                @KateGregory This distinction is important. If you are primarily in the country to work for your non-US employer, which has dealings in the US, then you cannot enter/stay on a B1/B2. See the case of the Russian Boeing engineers here: seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/… and also user16885's answer.

                – imoatama
                Aug 12 '14 at 1:19






              • 1





                Your state department link is dead.

                – phoog
                Jun 6 '17 at 16:12











              • @phoog After 4.5 years ....

                – Karlson
                Jun 6 '17 at 16:34












              • 4





                How important is the "your travel is not employment related" part? Does the US distinguish between "I am here to take my kids to Disney, but will code in the evenings" and "I am here to meet with the US clients of my non-US employer all day, plus I will code in the evenings on their project" ?

                – Kate Gregory
                Jan 16 '13 at 17:02











              • If you answer the question of "What is the purpose of your visit" exactly as you put it the Immigration officer at the border or State Department official at a US consulate will likely err on the side of caution and make it a B1 and depending on what country you're from Visa may be denied altogether.

                – Karlson
                Jan 16 '13 at 17:12







              • 3





                @KateGregory This distinction is important. If you are primarily in the country to work for your non-US employer, which has dealings in the US, then you cannot enter/stay on a B1/B2. See the case of the Russian Boeing engineers here: seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/… and also user16885's answer.

                – imoatama
                Aug 12 '14 at 1:19






              • 1





                Your state department link is dead.

                – phoog
                Jun 6 '17 at 16:12











              • @phoog After 4.5 years ....

                – Karlson
                Jun 6 '17 at 16:34







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              How important is the "your travel is not employment related" part? Does the US distinguish between "I am here to take my kids to Disney, but will code in the evenings" and "I am here to meet with the US clients of my non-US employer all day, plus I will code in the evenings on their project" ?

              – Kate Gregory
              Jan 16 '13 at 17:02





              How important is the "your travel is not employment related" part? Does the US distinguish between "I am here to take my kids to Disney, but will code in the evenings" and "I am here to meet with the US clients of my non-US employer all day, plus I will code in the evenings on their project" ?

              – Kate Gregory
              Jan 16 '13 at 17:02













              If you answer the question of "What is the purpose of your visit" exactly as you put it the Immigration officer at the border or State Department official at a US consulate will likely err on the side of caution and make it a B1 and depending on what country you're from Visa may be denied altogether.

              – Karlson
              Jan 16 '13 at 17:12






              If you answer the question of "What is the purpose of your visit" exactly as you put it the Immigration officer at the border or State Department official at a US consulate will likely err on the side of caution and make it a B1 and depending on what country you're from Visa may be denied altogether.

              – Karlson
              Jan 16 '13 at 17:12





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              @KateGregory This distinction is important. If you are primarily in the country to work for your non-US employer, which has dealings in the US, then you cannot enter/stay on a B1/B2. See the case of the Russian Boeing engineers here: seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/… and also user16885's answer.

              – imoatama
              Aug 12 '14 at 1:19





              @KateGregory This distinction is important. If you are primarily in the country to work for your non-US employer, which has dealings in the US, then you cannot enter/stay on a B1/B2. See the case of the Russian Boeing engineers here: seattletimes.com/html/businesstechnology/… and also user16885's answer.

              – imoatama
              Aug 12 '14 at 1:19




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              Your state department link is dead.

              – phoog
              Jun 6 '17 at 16:12





              Your state department link is dead.

              – phoog
              Jun 6 '17 at 16:12













              @phoog After 4.5 years ....

              – Karlson
              Jun 6 '17 at 16:34





              @phoog After 4.5 years ....

              – Karlson
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              My visa was immediately rejected when I mentioned that I was planning to work for a German company while in the States, with the reasoning that I was planning to work there.



              As you can read in this article, the US tax law states that every income from abroad of more than 3000 $ per year counts as a US income (which means that taxes need to be paid in the US). With a B1/B2 visa, you are not allowed to have a US income. Now, this seems to be an ongoing debate among lawyers, and some argue that the tax law is independent from the immigration law. But in the end, the law does not count, but the personal choice of the immigration officer does.



              I would thus recommed to not mention such a job in the visa interview, or try to suspend the job during the stay in the US.






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                I know this is old, but I was reading through this question. This user says "in the end, the law does not count, but..." This is wrong. As far as the relatively simple act of entering the US goes, you're right, the tax law plays no part in the determination of Border Control. Also, a person who works remotely will have an extremely high chance of never being noticed. The fact remains, that the tax laws of the US still apply to work being done within the US borders. If you earn more than the amount stated in the law, you are liable for US taxes, period.

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                Sep 19 '15 at 13:19















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              My visa was immediately rejected when I mentioned that I was planning to work for a German company while in the States, with the reasoning that I was planning to work there.



              As you can read in this article, the US tax law states that every income from abroad of more than 3000 $ per year counts as a US income (which means that taxes need to be paid in the US). With a B1/B2 visa, you are not allowed to have a US income. Now, this seems to be an ongoing debate among lawyers, and some argue that the tax law is independent from the immigration law. But in the end, the law does not count, but the personal choice of the immigration officer does.



              I would thus recommed to not mention such a job in the visa interview, or try to suspend the job during the stay in the US.






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              • 2





                I know this is old, but I was reading through this question. This user says "in the end, the law does not count, but..." This is wrong. As far as the relatively simple act of entering the US goes, you're right, the tax law plays no part in the determination of Border Control. Also, a person who works remotely will have an extremely high chance of never being noticed. The fact remains, that the tax laws of the US still apply to work being done within the US borders. If you earn more than the amount stated in the law, you are liable for US taxes, period.

                – CGCampbell
                Sep 19 '15 at 13:19













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              23







              My visa was immediately rejected when I mentioned that I was planning to work for a German company while in the States, with the reasoning that I was planning to work there.



              As you can read in this article, the US tax law states that every income from abroad of more than 3000 $ per year counts as a US income (which means that taxes need to be paid in the US). With a B1/B2 visa, you are not allowed to have a US income. Now, this seems to be an ongoing debate among lawyers, and some argue that the tax law is independent from the immigration law. But in the end, the law does not count, but the personal choice of the immigration officer does.



              I would thus recommed to not mention such a job in the visa interview, or try to suspend the job during the stay in the US.






              share|improve this answer













              My visa was immediately rejected when I mentioned that I was planning to work for a German company while in the States, with the reasoning that I was planning to work there.



              As you can read in this article, the US tax law states that every income from abroad of more than 3000 $ per year counts as a US income (which means that taxes need to be paid in the US). With a B1/B2 visa, you are not allowed to have a US income. Now, this seems to be an ongoing debate among lawyers, and some argue that the tax law is independent from the immigration law. But in the end, the law does not count, but the personal choice of the immigration officer does.



              I would thus recommed to not mention such a job in the visa interview, or try to suspend the job during the stay in the US.







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              answered Jun 25 '14 at 11:03









              user16885user16885

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              • 2





                I know this is old, but I was reading through this question. This user says "in the end, the law does not count, but..." This is wrong. As far as the relatively simple act of entering the US goes, you're right, the tax law plays no part in the determination of Border Control. Also, a person who works remotely will have an extremely high chance of never being noticed. The fact remains, that the tax laws of the US still apply to work being done within the US borders. If you earn more than the amount stated in the law, you are liable for US taxes, period.

                – CGCampbell
                Sep 19 '15 at 13:19












              • 2





                I know this is old, but I was reading through this question. This user says "in the end, the law does not count, but..." This is wrong. As far as the relatively simple act of entering the US goes, you're right, the tax law plays no part in the determination of Border Control. Also, a person who works remotely will have an extremely high chance of never being noticed. The fact remains, that the tax laws of the US still apply to work being done within the US borders. If you earn more than the amount stated in the law, you are liable for US taxes, period.

                – CGCampbell
                Sep 19 '15 at 13:19







              2




              2





              I know this is old, but I was reading through this question. This user says "in the end, the law does not count, but..." This is wrong. As far as the relatively simple act of entering the US goes, you're right, the tax law plays no part in the determination of Border Control. Also, a person who works remotely will have an extremely high chance of never being noticed. The fact remains, that the tax laws of the US still apply to work being done within the US borders. If you earn more than the amount stated in the law, you are liable for US taxes, period.

              – CGCampbell
              Sep 19 '15 at 13:19





              I know this is old, but I was reading through this question. This user says "in the end, the law does not count, but..." This is wrong. As far as the relatively simple act of entering the US goes, you're right, the tax law plays no part in the determination of Border Control. Also, a person who works remotely will have an extremely high chance of never being noticed. The fact remains, that the tax laws of the US still apply to work being done within the US borders. If you earn more than the amount stated in the law, you are liable for US taxes, period.

              – CGCampbell
              Sep 19 '15 at 13:19











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              I was denied a visa by telling I may work remotely while on US, now I realize that I may have phrased this in a way that was too open the first time.



              Second time I clarified on the application that I worked from home as a freelancer for companies of my country and that these companies only employ local freelancers, and it was approved.
              I guess that was because of the fact that my work, despite of being done remotely, do not have any chance of taking work away from US workers.



              Internet makes borders blurry, so you have to make sure you phrase your case correctly, not only on your visa application and interview but also at the point of entry if the officer asks questions about your work, a lot depends on the mood of the officer as well






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                I was denied a visa by telling I may work remotely while on US, now I realize that I may have phrased this in a way that was too open the first time.



                Second time I clarified on the application that I worked from home as a freelancer for companies of my country and that these companies only employ local freelancers, and it was approved.
                I guess that was because of the fact that my work, despite of being done remotely, do not have any chance of taking work away from US workers.



                Internet makes borders blurry, so you have to make sure you phrase your case correctly, not only on your visa application and interview but also at the point of entry if the officer asks questions about your work, a lot depends on the mood of the officer as well






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                  I was denied a visa by telling I may work remotely while on US, now I realize that I may have phrased this in a way that was too open the first time.



                  Second time I clarified on the application that I worked from home as a freelancer for companies of my country and that these companies only employ local freelancers, and it was approved.
                  I guess that was because of the fact that my work, despite of being done remotely, do not have any chance of taking work away from US workers.



                  Internet makes borders blurry, so you have to make sure you phrase your case correctly, not only on your visa application and interview but also at the point of entry if the officer asks questions about your work, a lot depends on the mood of the officer as well






                  share|improve this answer













                  I was denied a visa by telling I may work remotely while on US, now I realize that I may have phrased this in a way that was too open the first time.



                  Second time I clarified on the application that I worked from home as a freelancer for companies of my country and that these companies only employ local freelancers, and it was approved.
                  I guess that was because of the fact that my work, despite of being done remotely, do not have any chance of taking work away from US workers.



                  Internet makes borders blurry, so you have to make sure you phrase your case correctly, not only on your visa application and interview but also at the point of entry if the officer asks questions about your work, a lot depends on the mood of the officer as well







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                  answered Jan 4 '16 at 19:50









                  ccrezccrez

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                      I was denied re-entry into the USA as a Canadian due to mentioning that I had been working as an independent contractor. My Fiance lived in the USA and I am barred from entering/ applying for visa for 6 months. Also, I have to present US income tax proof * and * canadian income tax proof. The officer treated me like a criminal and I was escorted out of the border security office while missing my flight.



                      SO, if you can avoid it, never give them any information at all.






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                        I was denied re-entry into the USA as a Canadian due to mentioning that I had been working as an independent contractor. My Fiance lived in the USA and I am barred from entering/ applying for visa for 6 months. Also, I have to present US income tax proof * and * canadian income tax proof. The officer treated me like a criminal and I was escorted out of the border security office while missing my flight.



                        SO, if you can avoid it, never give them any information at all.






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                          7







                          I was denied re-entry into the USA as a Canadian due to mentioning that I had been working as an independent contractor. My Fiance lived in the USA and I am barred from entering/ applying for visa for 6 months. Also, I have to present US income tax proof * and * canadian income tax proof. The officer treated me like a criminal and I was escorted out of the border security office while missing my flight.



                          SO, if you can avoid it, never give them any information at all.






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                          I was denied re-entry into the USA as a Canadian due to mentioning that I had been working as an independent contractor. My Fiance lived in the USA and I am barred from entering/ applying for visa for 6 months. Also, I have to present US income tax proof * and * canadian income tax proof. The officer treated me like a criminal and I was escorted out of the border security office while missing my flight.



                          SO, if you can avoid it, never give them any information at all.







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                          answered Jun 3 '16 at 19:02









                          lilalila

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                              The intent of the law is to preserve U.S. work for U.S. workers. Everything else is fuzzy.



                              From the USCIS web site: "Employment — Any service or labor performed by an employee for an employer within the United States, but not including casual domestic employment or duties performed by nonimmigrant crewmen (D-1 or D-2)."



                              You can't be employed on a "B" visa. As an attorney I could argue that "within the United States" applies to the employer, but if I was prosecution and someone cared enough to push it, the phrase could apply to the physical location of the employee and be grounds for removal from the United States.



                              So look at the intent. Can anything I might do take work away from legal U.S. workers?



                              As for user16885, I suspect that you said something in the interview that indicated you would be doing "employment". If you have a transcript (which you don't, because there is no appeal from a State Department decision on things like this) I could probably pick it out.






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                                The intent of the law is to preserve U.S. work for U.S. workers. Everything else is fuzzy.



                                From the USCIS web site: "Employment — Any service or labor performed by an employee for an employer within the United States, but not including casual domestic employment or duties performed by nonimmigrant crewmen (D-1 or D-2)."



                                You can't be employed on a "B" visa. As an attorney I could argue that "within the United States" applies to the employer, but if I was prosecution and someone cared enough to push it, the phrase could apply to the physical location of the employee and be grounds for removal from the United States.



                                So look at the intent. Can anything I might do take work away from legal U.S. workers?



                                As for user16885, I suspect that you said something in the interview that indicated you would be doing "employment". If you have a transcript (which you don't, because there is no appeal from a State Department decision on things like this) I could probably pick it out.






                                share|improve this answer

























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                                  2








                                  2







                                  The intent of the law is to preserve U.S. work for U.S. workers. Everything else is fuzzy.



                                  From the USCIS web site: "Employment — Any service or labor performed by an employee for an employer within the United States, but not including casual domestic employment or duties performed by nonimmigrant crewmen (D-1 or D-2)."



                                  You can't be employed on a "B" visa. As an attorney I could argue that "within the United States" applies to the employer, but if I was prosecution and someone cared enough to push it, the phrase could apply to the physical location of the employee and be grounds for removal from the United States.



                                  So look at the intent. Can anything I might do take work away from legal U.S. workers?



                                  As for user16885, I suspect that you said something in the interview that indicated you would be doing "employment". If you have a transcript (which you don't, because there is no appeal from a State Department decision on things like this) I could probably pick it out.






                                  share|improve this answer













                                  The intent of the law is to preserve U.S. work for U.S. workers. Everything else is fuzzy.



                                  From the USCIS web site: "Employment — Any service or labor performed by an employee for an employer within the United States, but not including casual domestic employment or duties performed by nonimmigrant crewmen (D-1 or D-2)."



                                  You can't be employed on a "B" visa. As an attorney I could argue that "within the United States" applies to the employer, but if I was prosecution and someone cared enough to push it, the phrase could apply to the physical location of the employee and be grounds for removal from the United States.



                                  So look at the intent. Can anything I might do take work away from legal U.S. workers?



                                  As for user16885, I suspect that you said something in the interview that indicated you would be doing "employment". If you have a transcript (which you don't, because there is no appeal from a State Department decision on things like this) I could probably pick it out.







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                                  answered Jul 29 '15 at 14:54









                                  DavidDavid

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                                      As somone already pointed out, there is no need to even mention that you will be working remotely for your foreign employer to US customs because in some ways it is irrelevant, on the other hand, you might find it challenging to explain how its possible for you to vacation for such a long period of time, and who vacations for such a long period anyway? That's when it might work against you.






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                                        As somone already pointed out, there is no need to even mention that you will be working remotely for your foreign employer to US customs because in some ways it is irrelevant, on the other hand, you might find it challenging to explain how its possible for you to vacation for such a long period of time, and who vacations for such a long period anyway? That's when it might work against you.






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                                          As somone already pointed out, there is no need to even mention that you will be working remotely for your foreign employer to US customs because in some ways it is irrelevant, on the other hand, you might find it challenging to explain how its possible for you to vacation for such a long period of time, and who vacations for such a long period anyway? That's when it might work against you.






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                                          As somone already pointed out, there is no need to even mention that you will be working remotely for your foreign employer to US customs because in some ways it is irrelevant, on the other hand, you might find it challenging to explain how its possible for you to vacation for such a long period of time, and who vacations for such a long period anyway? That's when it might work against you.







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                                          answered Aug 9 '17 at 9:15









                                          some gueysome guey

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                                              3 - 6 months of vacationing can be interpreted as an intent to immigrate. You need to provide the immigration officer with a clear view of you intentions during your stay in US soil. What will you be doing for so long? Where will you stay? Do you have any friends or relatives in the USA? Are they legal? Will you attend any educational institution?






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                                                3 - 6 months of vacationing can be interpreted as an intent to immigrate. You need to provide the immigration officer with a clear view of you intentions during your stay in US soil. What will you be doing for so long? Where will you stay? Do you have any friends or relatives in the USA? Are they legal? Will you attend any educational institution?






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                                                  3 - 6 months of vacationing can be interpreted as an intent to immigrate. You need to provide the immigration officer with a clear view of you intentions during your stay in US soil. What will you be doing for so long? Where will you stay? Do you have any friends or relatives in the USA? Are they legal? Will you attend any educational institution?






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                                                  3 - 6 months of vacationing can be interpreted as an intent to immigrate. You need to provide the immigration officer with a clear view of you intentions during your stay in US soil. What will you be doing for so long? Where will you stay? Do you have any friends or relatives in the USA? Are they legal? Will you attend any educational institution?







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                                                      Tourist visas do not allow you to work as employed in the issuing country. But, they do not prohibit you from doing your 'home' work while on vacation.



                                                      So anyone from anywhere who is working on their laptop or smartphone while on short or long vacation is not under any penalty.



                                                      You can do your work/ personal stuff there, as long as your employment i.e. employer-employee relationship has no direct legal, financial bindings with the destination country of tourism.



                                                      PS: For all technical purposes, you are not going to work in the US, even if you are remotely working for your German employer. It is stupid for you to mention that. Why?



                                                      What is your intended relationship with US/ US Consulate/ US Visa - as a tourist.. right..?



                                                      Whether you go there and check your Germany work email or do some presentations remotely for your Germany company or take up a dance class for a few weekends, it is outside of the domain of your relationship with the US.






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                                                        Tourist visas do not allow you to work as employed in the issuing country. But, they do not prohibit you from doing your 'home' work while on vacation.



                                                        So anyone from anywhere who is working on their laptop or smartphone while on short or long vacation is not under any penalty.



                                                        You can do your work/ personal stuff there, as long as your employment i.e. employer-employee relationship has no direct legal, financial bindings with the destination country of tourism.



                                                        PS: For all technical purposes, you are not going to work in the US, even if you are remotely working for your German employer. It is stupid for you to mention that. Why?



                                                        What is your intended relationship with US/ US Consulate/ US Visa - as a tourist.. right..?



                                                        Whether you go there and check your Germany work email or do some presentations remotely for your Germany company or take up a dance class for a few weekends, it is outside of the domain of your relationship with the US.






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                                                          0







                                                          Tourist visas do not allow you to work as employed in the issuing country. But, they do not prohibit you from doing your 'home' work while on vacation.



                                                          So anyone from anywhere who is working on their laptop or smartphone while on short or long vacation is not under any penalty.



                                                          You can do your work/ personal stuff there, as long as your employment i.e. employer-employee relationship has no direct legal, financial bindings with the destination country of tourism.



                                                          PS: For all technical purposes, you are not going to work in the US, even if you are remotely working for your German employer. It is stupid for you to mention that. Why?



                                                          What is your intended relationship with US/ US Consulate/ US Visa - as a tourist.. right..?



                                                          Whether you go there and check your Germany work email or do some presentations remotely for your Germany company or take up a dance class for a few weekends, it is outside of the domain of your relationship with the US.






                                                          share|improve this answer













                                                          Tourist visas do not allow you to work as employed in the issuing country. But, they do not prohibit you from doing your 'home' work while on vacation.



                                                          So anyone from anywhere who is working on their laptop or smartphone while on short or long vacation is not under any penalty.



                                                          You can do your work/ personal stuff there, as long as your employment i.e. employer-employee relationship has no direct legal, financial bindings with the destination country of tourism.



                                                          PS: For all technical purposes, you are not going to work in the US, even if you are remotely working for your German employer. It is stupid for you to mention that. Why?



                                                          What is your intended relationship with US/ US Consulate/ US Visa - as a tourist.. right..?



                                                          Whether you go there and check your Germany work email or do some presentations remotely for your Germany company or take up a dance class for a few weekends, it is outside of the domain of your relationship with the US.







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