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I wonder who is responsible for security on an airplane, especially on a flight within Europe. In some countries (e.g. USA) sky marshals counter hijacking, but I don't know if a similar practice exists in European countries.



The incidents (in this question) are not limited to hijacking. Say a passenger's behavior is aggressive, he/she may hit someone else. What agency and staff are primarily responsible for in-flight security?










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    I made an edit to make the question about official responsibility. Primary responsibility in an official capacity is a more answerable question here. There are known incidents ranging from the victims on Flight 93 to passengers helping with drunks where people did the right thing on their own initiative. You are your own first responder.
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    This would probably be better on our Aviation website.
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    The wisdom and efficiency of the air marshals service has been questioned before. Even in the US, security does not mainly depend on that.
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    jpatokal answer below is correct: the CAPTAIN is in charge of the aircraft and everything that happens on it. The Captain is also known as the "pilot in command".
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I wonder who is responsible for security on an airplane, especially on a flight within Europe. In some countries (e.g. USA) sky marshals counter hijacking, but I don't know if a similar practice exists in European countries.



The incidents (in this question) are not limited to hijacking. Say a passenger's behavior is aggressive, he/she may hit someone else. What agency and staff are primarily responsible for in-flight security?










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    I made an edit to make the question about official responsibility. Primary responsibility in an official capacity is a more answerable question here. There are known incidents ranging from the victims on Flight 93 to passengers helping with drunks where people did the right thing on their own initiative. You are your own first responder.
    – Freiheit
    Aug 18 '17 at 12:55






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    @Freiheit I've approved your edit. Thanks for improving my post.
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    Aug 18 '17 at 12:59






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    This would probably be better on our Aviation website.
    – DJClayworth
    Aug 18 '17 at 13:26






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    The wisdom and efficiency of the air marshals service has been questioned before. Even in the US, security does not mainly depend on that.
    – Relaxed
    Aug 18 '17 at 16:33






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    jpatokal answer below is correct: the CAPTAIN is in charge of the aircraft and everything that happens on it. The Captain is also known as the "pilot in command".
    – Lemuel Gulliver
    Aug 20 '17 at 18:09












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I wonder who is responsible for security on an airplane, especially on a flight within Europe. In some countries (e.g. USA) sky marshals counter hijacking, but I don't know if a similar practice exists in European countries.



The incidents (in this question) are not limited to hijacking. Say a passenger's behavior is aggressive, he/she may hit someone else. What agency and staff are primarily responsible for in-flight security?










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I wonder who is responsible for security on an airplane, especially on a flight within Europe. In some countries (e.g. USA) sky marshals counter hijacking, but I don't know if a similar practice exists in European countries.



The incidents (in this question) are not limited to hijacking. Say a passenger's behavior is aggressive, he/she may hit someone else. What agency and staff are primarily responsible for in-flight security?







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    I made an edit to make the question about official responsibility. Primary responsibility in an official capacity is a more answerable question here. There are known incidents ranging from the victims on Flight 93 to passengers helping with drunks where people did the right thing on their own initiative. You are your own first responder.
    – Freiheit
    Aug 18 '17 at 12:55






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    @Freiheit I've approved your edit. Thanks for improving my post.
    – ahmedus
    Aug 18 '17 at 12:59






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    This would probably be better on our Aviation website.
    – DJClayworth
    Aug 18 '17 at 13:26






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    The wisdom and efficiency of the air marshals service has been questioned before. Even in the US, security does not mainly depend on that.
    – Relaxed
    Aug 18 '17 at 16:33






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    jpatokal answer below is correct: the CAPTAIN is in charge of the aircraft and everything that happens on it. The Captain is also known as the "pilot in command".
    – Lemuel Gulliver
    Aug 20 '17 at 18:09












  • 2




    I made an edit to make the question about official responsibility. Primary responsibility in an official capacity is a more answerable question here. There are known incidents ranging from the victims on Flight 93 to passengers helping with drunks where people did the right thing on their own initiative. You are your own first responder.
    – Freiheit
    Aug 18 '17 at 12:55






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    @Freiheit I've approved your edit. Thanks for improving my post.
    – ahmedus
    Aug 18 '17 at 12:59






  • 4




    This would probably be better on our Aviation website.
    – DJClayworth
    Aug 18 '17 at 13:26






  • 1




    The wisdom and efficiency of the air marshals service has been questioned before. Even in the US, security does not mainly depend on that.
    – Relaxed
    Aug 18 '17 at 16:33






  • 2




    jpatokal answer below is correct: the CAPTAIN is in charge of the aircraft and everything that happens on it. The Captain is also known as the "pilot in command".
    – Lemuel Gulliver
    Aug 20 '17 at 18:09







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I made an edit to make the question about official responsibility. Primary responsibility in an official capacity is a more answerable question here. There are known incidents ranging from the victims on Flight 93 to passengers helping with drunks where people did the right thing on their own initiative. You are your own first responder.
– Freiheit
Aug 18 '17 at 12:55




I made an edit to make the question about official responsibility. Primary responsibility in an official capacity is a more answerable question here. There are known incidents ranging from the victims on Flight 93 to passengers helping with drunks where people did the right thing on their own initiative. You are your own first responder.
– Freiheit
Aug 18 '17 at 12:55




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@Freiheit I've approved your edit. Thanks for improving my post.
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Aug 18 '17 at 12:59




@Freiheit I've approved your edit. Thanks for improving my post.
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This would probably be better on our Aviation website.
– DJClayworth
Aug 18 '17 at 13:26




This would probably be better on our Aviation website.
– DJClayworth
Aug 18 '17 at 13:26




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The wisdom and efficiency of the air marshals service has been questioned before. Even in the US, security does not mainly depend on that.
– Relaxed
Aug 18 '17 at 16:33




The wisdom and efficiency of the air marshals service has been questioned before. Even in the US, security does not mainly depend on that.
– Relaxed
Aug 18 '17 at 16:33




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jpatokal answer below is correct: the CAPTAIN is in charge of the aircraft and everything that happens on it. The Captain is also known as the "pilot in command".
– Lemuel Gulliver
Aug 20 '17 at 18:09




jpatokal answer below is correct: the CAPTAIN is in charge of the aircraft and everything that happens on it. The Captain is also known as the "pilot in command".
– Lemuel Gulliver
Aug 20 '17 at 18:09










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Ultimately everything that happens on a plane is the captain's responsibility. But in practice, if a passenger is unruly and does not follow cabin crew instructions, cabin attendants can and will physically restrain them (many airlines carry plastic cuffs or zip ties for this purpose), with voluntary assistance from other passengers if needed, and then hand them over to police at the destination.






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    +1, do you know if the passenger is under arrest at the point the cabin crew intervene?
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    @GayotFow given that news reports about such flights normally refer to them being arrested on landing, presumably not.
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    @ChrisH there's an exception. A friend of mine, a service English police officer flying home from holiday, once arrested an unruly passenger in flight. On arrival he handed the prisoner to the waiting police force (I assume there was some paperwork to follow). This was on a BA flight - which made it legal, I assume.
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    @GayotFow "Under arrest" is a complex legal question. In one sense, if a passenger has been restrained, they they have ipso facto been arrested. If the passenger was unreasonably restrained, he would sue for "unlawful arrest". In another, "being arrested" is a bureaucratic exercise for a policeman.
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    Some European countries have different legal categories for a citizen's arrest, arrest by a law enforcement officer, and arrest confirmed by a judge. Only the latter may be "arrest" without qualifier.
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The flight crew is in charge of security and passenger control once the plane is airborne. They are equipped with passenger restraint devices (handcuff type zip ties and such). I have witnessed unruly passengers being restrained during the remaining duration of the flight.






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    This answer is unclear. Does "flight crew" include the deck crew, or do you mean to refer only to cabin crew? If the latter, this answer should include references that confirm the fact that ultimate responsibility for aspects of the flight's operation does not rest with the captain. (If the former, it's a bit of a non-answer. Who else could it possibly rest on?)
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    @E.P. - The "flight crew" is the crew working the flight and includes cabin attendants, pilot, co-pilot, first officer, purser, team leader or any other title assigned to airline employees assisting with that flight onboard the plane. Happy?
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    @tom in the aviation industry flight crew means "flight deck crew", cabin crew means "flight attendants", crew or crewmembers is the word used in the industry to indicated both crewmembers. These are the terms used in manuals and policies, etc.
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OP: Who would deal with this incident?




The cabin crew.




A 'violent' passenger on a plane from Dubai to Heathrow was restrained by four cabin crew and a policeman after allegedly launching a terrifying mid-air attack on staff.




https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/passenger-restrained-by-cabin-crew-and-police-after-midair-attack-on-flight-from-dubai-to-london-a3180616.html



Or other passengers.




A drunken British was restrained by four passengers on board an easyJet flight and dragged off the plane on his knees after attempting to open its emergency door at 30,000ft.




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483547/Drunken-British-man-tried-open-emergency-door-EasyJet-flight.html



Regarding Air Marshals, we tend to prefer preventative measures here in the EU, so better pre-boarding security checks etc to weed out any actual serious attempts at hijacking in the air.



Pretty much everything you hear about these days is alcohol related, and can be dealt with by trained onboard crew members.






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  • The US uses preventative measures, too; the Air Marshals are there as a last resort.
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  • Incidentally, part of the reason for the expansion of the use of air marshals on flights to the U.S. was that people with bombs got past security and were allowed to board flights from Europe to the U.S. on two different occasions. Thankfully, passengers stopped them in both incidents (and one of their devices also failed to do anything except burn himself.)
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By the book, it's the responsibility of the air marshals (if available) then the cabin crew, but in reality able-bodied passengers are usually involved to help. Usually police officers, firemen, etc. (if were around) volunteer to help without asking them after identifying themselves.



Why are passengers involved? it's actually allowed for cabin crew to ask for the help of the able-bodied passengers in cases of emergencies, unruly passenger is an emergency.



Regarding flight deck crew, policy usually requires them to lock the flight deck door for any kind of access in such cases until things are cleared out to make sure it's not some sort of a diversion to allow potential associates to do a more serious offense, that is hijacking! By locking flight deck door I mean even authorized cabin crewmember(s) will not be able to access using the designated code, which they can in normal cases.



Once there's an unruly passenger onboard, there's a form to be filled by the senior cabin crew and signed by the captain to be handed to the authorities after landing. The captain will usually contact the nearest airport once the case is reported by cabin crew, then the captain will decide whether to land immediately in the nearest airport or to continue the flight. Either way, the passenger will be handed to the airport security once landed. Usually passengers will be requested to hold deplaning until security has detained the unruly passenger.



Source: I'm a cabin crewmember.






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      +1, do you know if the passenger is under arrest at the point the cabin crew intervene?
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      @GayotFow given that news reports about such flights normally refer to them being arrested on landing, presumably not.
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      @ChrisH there's an exception. A friend of mine, a service English police officer flying home from holiday, once arrested an unruly passenger in flight. On arrival he handed the prisoner to the waiting police force (I assume there was some paperwork to follow). This was on a BA flight - which made it legal, I assume.
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      @GayotFow "Under arrest" is a complex legal question. In one sense, if a passenger has been restrained, they they have ipso facto been arrested. If the passenger was unreasonably restrained, he would sue for "unlawful arrest". In another, "being arrested" is a bureaucratic exercise for a policeman.
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      Some European countries have different legal categories for a citizen's arrest, arrest by a law enforcement officer, and arrest confirmed by a judge. Only the latter may be "arrest" without qualifier.
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      +1, do you know if the passenger is under arrest at the point the cabin crew intervene?
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      @GayotFow given that news reports about such flights normally refer to them being arrested on landing, presumably not.
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      @ChrisH there's an exception. A friend of mine, a service English police officer flying home from holiday, once arrested an unruly passenger in flight. On arrival he handed the prisoner to the waiting police force (I assume there was some paperwork to follow). This was on a BA flight - which made it legal, I assume.
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      @GayotFow "Under arrest" is a complex legal question. In one sense, if a passenger has been restrained, they they have ipso facto been arrested. If the passenger was unreasonably restrained, he would sue for "unlawful arrest". In another, "being arrested" is a bureaucratic exercise for a policeman.
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    Ultimately everything that happens on a plane is the captain's responsibility. But in practice, if a passenger is unruly and does not follow cabin crew instructions, cabin attendants can and will physically restrain them (many airlines carry plastic cuffs or zip ties for this purpose), with voluntary assistance from other passengers if needed, and then hand them over to police at the destination.






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    Ultimately everything that happens on a plane is the captain's responsibility. But in practice, if a passenger is unruly and does not follow cabin crew instructions, cabin attendants can and will physically restrain them (many airlines carry plastic cuffs or zip ties for this purpose), with voluntary assistance from other passengers if needed, and then hand them over to police at the destination.







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      +1, do you know if the passenger is under arrest at the point the cabin crew intervene?
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      @GayotFow given that news reports about such flights normally refer to them being arrested on landing, presumably not.
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      @ChrisH there's an exception. A friend of mine, a service English police officer flying home from holiday, once arrested an unruly passenger in flight. On arrival he handed the prisoner to the waiting police force (I assume there was some paperwork to follow). This was on a BA flight - which made it legal, I assume.
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      @GayotFow "Under arrest" is a complex legal question. In one sense, if a passenger has been restrained, they they have ipso facto been arrested. If the passenger was unreasonably restrained, he would sue for "unlawful arrest". In another, "being arrested" is a bureaucratic exercise for a policeman.
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      Some European countries have different legal categories for a citizen's arrest, arrest by a law enforcement officer, and arrest confirmed by a judge. Only the latter may be "arrest" without qualifier.
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      +1, do you know if the passenger is under arrest at the point the cabin crew intervene?
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      @GayotFow given that news reports about such flights normally refer to them being arrested on landing, presumably not.
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      @ChrisH there's an exception. A friend of mine, a service English police officer flying home from holiday, once arrested an unruly passenger in flight. On arrival he handed the prisoner to the waiting police force (I assume there was some paperwork to follow). This was on a BA flight - which made it legal, I assume.
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      @GayotFow "Under arrest" is a complex legal question. In one sense, if a passenger has been restrained, they they have ipso facto been arrested. If the passenger was unreasonably restrained, he would sue for "unlawful arrest". In another, "being arrested" is a bureaucratic exercise for a policeman.
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    @ChrisH there's an exception. A friend of mine, a service English police officer flying home from holiday, once arrested an unruly passenger in flight. On arrival he handed the prisoner to the waiting police force (I assume there was some paperwork to follow). This was on a BA flight - which made it legal, I assume.
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    @GayotFow "Under arrest" is a complex legal question. In one sense, if a passenger has been restrained, they they have ipso facto been arrested. If the passenger was unreasonably restrained, he would sue for "unlawful arrest". In another, "being arrested" is a bureaucratic exercise for a policeman.
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    @GayotFow "Under arrest" is a complex legal question. In one sense, if a passenger has been restrained, they they have ipso facto been arrested. If the passenger was unreasonably restrained, he would sue for "unlawful arrest". In another, "being arrested" is a bureaucratic exercise for a policeman.
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    Some European countries have different legal categories for a citizen's arrest, arrest by a law enforcement officer, and arrest confirmed by a judge. Only the latter may be "arrest" without qualifier.
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    The flight crew is in charge of security and passenger control once the plane is airborne. They are equipped with passenger restraint devices (handcuff type zip ties and such). I have witnessed unruly passengers being restrained during the remaining duration of the flight.






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      This answer is unclear. Does "flight crew" include the deck crew, or do you mean to refer only to cabin crew? If the latter, this answer should include references that confirm the fact that ultimate responsibility for aspects of the flight's operation does not rest with the captain. (If the former, it's a bit of a non-answer. Who else could it possibly rest on?)
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      @E.P. - The "flight crew" is the crew working the flight and includes cabin attendants, pilot, co-pilot, first officer, purser, team leader or any other title assigned to airline employees assisting with that flight onboard the plane. Happy?
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      @tom in the aviation industry flight crew means "flight deck crew", cabin crew means "flight attendants", crew or crewmembers is the word used in the industry to indicated both crewmembers. These are the terms used in manuals and policies, etc.
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    • @neanderthal - my apologies for not being an aviation professional and using a layman's descriptive term.
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      @Tom on behalf of the industry, your apologies are accepted :) lol
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    The flight crew is in charge of security and passenger control once the plane is airborne. They are equipped with passenger restraint devices (handcuff type zip ties and such). I have witnessed unruly passengers being restrained during the remaining duration of the flight.






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      This answer is unclear. Does "flight crew" include the deck crew, or do you mean to refer only to cabin crew? If the latter, this answer should include references that confirm the fact that ultimate responsibility for aspects of the flight's operation does not rest with the captain. (If the former, it's a bit of a non-answer. Who else could it possibly rest on?)
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      @E.P. - The "flight crew" is the crew working the flight and includes cabin attendants, pilot, co-pilot, first officer, purser, team leader or any other title assigned to airline employees assisting with that flight onboard the plane. Happy?
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      @tom in the aviation industry flight crew means "flight deck crew", cabin crew means "flight attendants", crew or crewmembers is the word used in the industry to indicated both crewmembers. These are the terms used in manuals and policies, etc.
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    The flight crew is in charge of security and passenger control once the plane is airborne. They are equipped with passenger restraint devices (handcuff type zip ties and such). I have witnessed unruly passengers being restrained during the remaining duration of the flight.






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    The flight crew is in charge of security and passenger control once the plane is airborne. They are equipped with passenger restraint devices (handcuff type zip ties and such). I have witnessed unruly passengers being restrained during the remaining duration of the flight.







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      This answer is unclear. Does "flight crew" include the deck crew, or do you mean to refer only to cabin crew? If the latter, this answer should include references that confirm the fact that ultimate responsibility for aspects of the flight's operation does not rest with the captain. (If the former, it's a bit of a non-answer. Who else could it possibly rest on?)
      – E.P.
      Aug 19 '17 at 5:05






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      @E.P. - The "flight crew" is the crew working the flight and includes cabin attendants, pilot, co-pilot, first officer, purser, team leader or any other title assigned to airline employees assisting with that flight onboard the plane. Happy?
      – user13044
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      @tom in the aviation industry flight crew means "flight deck crew", cabin crew means "flight attendants", crew or crewmembers is the word used in the industry to indicated both crewmembers. These are the terms used in manuals and policies, etc.
      – Nean Der Thal
      Aug 20 '17 at 7:59











    • @neanderthal - my apologies for not being an aviation professional and using a layman's descriptive term.
      – user13044
      Aug 20 '17 at 9:06






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      @Tom on behalf of the industry, your apologies are accepted :) lol
      – Nean Der Thal
      Aug 20 '17 at 9:41












    • 2




      This answer is unclear. Does "flight crew" include the deck crew, or do you mean to refer only to cabin crew? If the latter, this answer should include references that confirm the fact that ultimate responsibility for aspects of the flight's operation does not rest with the captain. (If the former, it's a bit of a non-answer. Who else could it possibly rest on?)
      – E.P.
      Aug 19 '17 at 5:05






    • 1




      @E.P. - The "flight crew" is the crew working the flight and includes cabin attendants, pilot, co-pilot, first officer, purser, team leader or any other title assigned to airline employees assisting with that flight onboard the plane. Happy?
      – user13044
      Aug 19 '17 at 5:13






    • 4




      @tom in the aviation industry flight crew means "flight deck crew", cabin crew means "flight attendants", crew or crewmembers is the word used in the industry to indicated both crewmembers. These are the terms used in manuals and policies, etc.
      – Nean Der Thal
      Aug 20 '17 at 7:59











    • @neanderthal - my apologies for not being an aviation professional and using a layman's descriptive term.
      – user13044
      Aug 20 '17 at 9:06






    • 1




      @Tom on behalf of the industry, your apologies are accepted :) lol
      – Nean Der Thal
      Aug 20 '17 at 9:41







    2




    2




    This answer is unclear. Does "flight crew" include the deck crew, or do you mean to refer only to cabin crew? If the latter, this answer should include references that confirm the fact that ultimate responsibility for aspects of the flight's operation does not rest with the captain. (If the former, it's a bit of a non-answer. Who else could it possibly rest on?)
    – E.P.
    Aug 19 '17 at 5:05




    This answer is unclear. Does "flight crew" include the deck crew, or do you mean to refer only to cabin crew? If the latter, this answer should include references that confirm the fact that ultimate responsibility for aspects of the flight's operation does not rest with the captain. (If the former, it's a bit of a non-answer. Who else could it possibly rest on?)
    – E.P.
    Aug 19 '17 at 5:05




    1




    1




    @E.P. - The "flight crew" is the crew working the flight and includes cabin attendants, pilot, co-pilot, first officer, purser, team leader or any other title assigned to airline employees assisting with that flight onboard the plane. Happy?
    – user13044
    Aug 19 '17 at 5:13




    @E.P. - The "flight crew" is the crew working the flight and includes cabin attendants, pilot, co-pilot, first officer, purser, team leader or any other title assigned to airline employees assisting with that flight onboard the plane. Happy?
    – user13044
    Aug 19 '17 at 5:13




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    4




    @tom in the aviation industry flight crew means "flight deck crew", cabin crew means "flight attendants", crew or crewmembers is the word used in the industry to indicated both crewmembers. These are the terms used in manuals and policies, etc.
    – Nean Der Thal
    Aug 20 '17 at 7:59





    @tom in the aviation industry flight crew means "flight deck crew", cabin crew means "flight attendants", crew or crewmembers is the word used in the industry to indicated both crewmembers. These are the terms used in manuals and policies, etc.
    – Nean Der Thal
    Aug 20 '17 at 7:59













    @neanderthal - my apologies for not being an aviation professional and using a layman's descriptive term.
    – user13044
    Aug 20 '17 at 9:06




    @neanderthal - my apologies for not being an aviation professional and using a layman's descriptive term.
    – user13044
    Aug 20 '17 at 9:06




    1




    1




    @Tom on behalf of the industry, your apologies are accepted :) lol
    – Nean Der Thal
    Aug 20 '17 at 9:41




    @Tom on behalf of the industry, your apologies are accepted :) lol
    – Nean Der Thal
    Aug 20 '17 at 9:41










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    OP: Who would deal with this incident?




    The cabin crew.




    A 'violent' passenger on a plane from Dubai to Heathrow was restrained by four cabin crew and a policeman after allegedly launching a terrifying mid-air attack on staff.




    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/passenger-restrained-by-cabin-crew-and-police-after-midair-attack-on-flight-from-dubai-to-london-a3180616.html



    Or other passengers.




    A drunken British was restrained by four passengers on board an easyJet flight and dragged off the plane on his knees after attempting to open its emergency door at 30,000ft.




    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483547/Drunken-British-man-tried-open-emergency-door-EasyJet-flight.html



    Regarding Air Marshals, we tend to prefer preventative measures here in the EU, so better pre-boarding security checks etc to weed out any actual serious attempts at hijacking in the air.



    Pretty much everything you hear about these days is alcohol related, and can be dealt with by trained onboard crew members.






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    • The US uses preventative measures, too; the Air Marshals are there as a last resort.
      – David Richerby
      Aug 18 '17 at 14:43










    • Incidentally, part of the reason for the expansion of the use of air marshals on flights to the U.S. was that people with bombs got past security and were allowed to board flights from Europe to the U.S. on two different occasions. Thankfully, passengers stopped them in both incidents (and one of their devices also failed to do anything except burn himself.)
      – reirab
      Aug 21 '17 at 17:33














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    OP: Who would deal with this incident?




    The cabin crew.




    A 'violent' passenger on a plane from Dubai to Heathrow was restrained by four cabin crew and a policeman after allegedly launching a terrifying mid-air attack on staff.




    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/passenger-restrained-by-cabin-crew-and-police-after-midair-attack-on-flight-from-dubai-to-london-a3180616.html



    Or other passengers.




    A drunken British was restrained by four passengers on board an easyJet flight and dragged off the plane on his knees after attempting to open its emergency door at 30,000ft.




    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483547/Drunken-British-man-tried-open-emergency-door-EasyJet-flight.html



    Regarding Air Marshals, we tend to prefer preventative measures here in the EU, so better pre-boarding security checks etc to weed out any actual serious attempts at hijacking in the air.



    Pretty much everything you hear about these days is alcohol related, and can be dealt with by trained onboard crew members.






    share|improve this answer




















    • The US uses preventative measures, too; the Air Marshals are there as a last resort.
      – David Richerby
      Aug 18 '17 at 14:43










    • Incidentally, part of the reason for the expansion of the use of air marshals on flights to the U.S. was that people with bombs got past security and were allowed to board flights from Europe to the U.S. on two different occasions. Thankfully, passengers stopped them in both incidents (and one of their devices also failed to do anything except burn himself.)
      – reirab
      Aug 21 '17 at 17:33












    up vote
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    up vote
    15
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    OP: Who would deal with this incident?




    The cabin crew.




    A 'violent' passenger on a plane from Dubai to Heathrow was restrained by four cabin crew and a policeman after allegedly launching a terrifying mid-air attack on staff.




    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/passenger-restrained-by-cabin-crew-and-police-after-midair-attack-on-flight-from-dubai-to-london-a3180616.html



    Or other passengers.




    A drunken British was restrained by four passengers on board an easyJet flight and dragged off the plane on his knees after attempting to open its emergency door at 30,000ft.




    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483547/Drunken-British-man-tried-open-emergency-door-EasyJet-flight.html



    Regarding Air Marshals, we tend to prefer preventative measures here in the EU, so better pre-boarding security checks etc to weed out any actual serious attempts at hijacking in the air.



    Pretty much everything you hear about these days is alcohol related, and can be dealt with by trained onboard crew members.






    share|improve this answer













    OP: Who would deal with this incident?




    The cabin crew.




    A 'violent' passenger on a plane from Dubai to Heathrow was restrained by four cabin crew and a policeman after allegedly launching a terrifying mid-air attack on staff.




    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/passenger-restrained-by-cabin-crew-and-police-after-midair-attack-on-flight-from-dubai-to-london-a3180616.html



    Or other passengers.




    A drunken British was restrained by four passengers on board an easyJet flight and dragged off the plane on his knees after attempting to open its emergency door at 30,000ft.




    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3483547/Drunken-British-man-tried-open-emergency-door-EasyJet-flight.html



    Regarding Air Marshals, we tend to prefer preventative measures here in the EU, so better pre-boarding security checks etc to weed out any actual serious attempts at hijacking in the air.



    Pretty much everything you hear about these days is alcohol related, and can be dealt with by trained onboard crew members.







    share|improve this answer












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    Moo

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    • The US uses preventative measures, too; the Air Marshals are there as a last resort.
      – David Richerby
      Aug 18 '17 at 14:43










    • Incidentally, part of the reason for the expansion of the use of air marshals on flights to the U.S. was that people with bombs got past security and were allowed to board flights from Europe to the U.S. on two different occasions. Thankfully, passengers stopped them in both incidents (and one of their devices also failed to do anything except burn himself.)
      – reirab
      Aug 21 '17 at 17:33
















    • The US uses preventative measures, too; the Air Marshals are there as a last resort.
      – David Richerby
      Aug 18 '17 at 14:43










    • Incidentally, part of the reason for the expansion of the use of air marshals on flights to the U.S. was that people with bombs got past security and were allowed to board flights from Europe to the U.S. on two different occasions. Thankfully, passengers stopped them in both incidents (and one of their devices also failed to do anything except burn himself.)
      – reirab
      Aug 21 '17 at 17:33















    The US uses preventative measures, too; the Air Marshals are there as a last resort.
    – David Richerby
    Aug 18 '17 at 14:43




    The US uses preventative measures, too; the Air Marshals are there as a last resort.
    – David Richerby
    Aug 18 '17 at 14:43












    Incidentally, part of the reason for the expansion of the use of air marshals on flights to the U.S. was that people with bombs got past security and were allowed to board flights from Europe to the U.S. on two different occasions. Thankfully, passengers stopped them in both incidents (and one of their devices also failed to do anything except burn himself.)
    – reirab
    Aug 21 '17 at 17:33




    Incidentally, part of the reason for the expansion of the use of air marshals on flights to the U.S. was that people with bombs got past security and were allowed to board flights from Europe to the U.S. on two different occasions. Thankfully, passengers stopped them in both incidents (and one of their devices also failed to do anything except burn himself.)
    – reirab
    Aug 21 '17 at 17:33










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    By the book, it's the responsibility of the air marshals (if available) then the cabin crew, but in reality able-bodied passengers are usually involved to help. Usually police officers, firemen, etc. (if were around) volunteer to help without asking them after identifying themselves.



    Why are passengers involved? it's actually allowed for cabin crew to ask for the help of the able-bodied passengers in cases of emergencies, unruly passenger is an emergency.



    Regarding flight deck crew, policy usually requires them to lock the flight deck door for any kind of access in such cases until things are cleared out to make sure it's not some sort of a diversion to allow potential associates to do a more serious offense, that is hijacking! By locking flight deck door I mean even authorized cabin crewmember(s) will not be able to access using the designated code, which they can in normal cases.



    Once there's an unruly passenger onboard, there's a form to be filled by the senior cabin crew and signed by the captain to be handed to the authorities after landing. The captain will usually contact the nearest airport once the case is reported by cabin crew, then the captain will decide whether to land immediately in the nearest airport or to continue the flight. Either way, the passenger will be handed to the airport security once landed. Usually passengers will be requested to hold deplaning until security has detained the unruly passenger.



    Source: I'm a cabin crewmember.






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      By the book, it's the responsibility of the air marshals (if available) then the cabin crew, but in reality able-bodied passengers are usually involved to help. Usually police officers, firemen, etc. (if were around) volunteer to help without asking them after identifying themselves.



      Why are passengers involved? it's actually allowed for cabin crew to ask for the help of the able-bodied passengers in cases of emergencies, unruly passenger is an emergency.



      Regarding flight deck crew, policy usually requires them to lock the flight deck door for any kind of access in such cases until things are cleared out to make sure it's not some sort of a diversion to allow potential associates to do a more serious offense, that is hijacking! By locking flight deck door I mean even authorized cabin crewmember(s) will not be able to access using the designated code, which they can in normal cases.



      Once there's an unruly passenger onboard, there's a form to be filled by the senior cabin crew and signed by the captain to be handed to the authorities after landing. The captain will usually contact the nearest airport once the case is reported by cabin crew, then the captain will decide whether to land immediately in the nearest airport or to continue the flight. Either way, the passenger will be handed to the airport security once landed. Usually passengers will be requested to hold deplaning until security has detained the unruly passenger.



      Source: I'm a cabin crewmember.






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        up vote
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        By the book, it's the responsibility of the air marshals (if available) then the cabin crew, but in reality able-bodied passengers are usually involved to help. Usually police officers, firemen, etc. (if were around) volunteer to help without asking them after identifying themselves.



        Why are passengers involved? it's actually allowed for cabin crew to ask for the help of the able-bodied passengers in cases of emergencies, unruly passenger is an emergency.



        Regarding flight deck crew, policy usually requires them to lock the flight deck door for any kind of access in such cases until things are cleared out to make sure it's not some sort of a diversion to allow potential associates to do a more serious offense, that is hijacking! By locking flight deck door I mean even authorized cabin crewmember(s) will not be able to access using the designated code, which they can in normal cases.



        Once there's an unruly passenger onboard, there's a form to be filled by the senior cabin crew and signed by the captain to be handed to the authorities after landing. The captain will usually contact the nearest airport once the case is reported by cabin crew, then the captain will decide whether to land immediately in the nearest airport or to continue the flight. Either way, the passenger will be handed to the airport security once landed. Usually passengers will be requested to hold deplaning until security has detained the unruly passenger.



        Source: I'm a cabin crewmember.






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        By the book, it's the responsibility of the air marshals (if available) then the cabin crew, but in reality able-bodied passengers are usually involved to help. Usually police officers, firemen, etc. (if were around) volunteer to help without asking them after identifying themselves.



        Why are passengers involved? it's actually allowed for cabin crew to ask for the help of the able-bodied passengers in cases of emergencies, unruly passenger is an emergency.



        Regarding flight deck crew, policy usually requires them to lock the flight deck door for any kind of access in such cases until things are cleared out to make sure it's not some sort of a diversion to allow potential associates to do a more serious offense, that is hijacking! By locking flight deck door I mean even authorized cabin crewmember(s) will not be able to access using the designated code, which they can in normal cases.



        Once there's an unruly passenger onboard, there's a form to be filled by the senior cabin crew and signed by the captain to be handed to the authorities after landing. The captain will usually contact the nearest airport once the case is reported by cabin crew, then the captain will decide whether to land immediately in the nearest airport or to continue the flight. Either way, the passenger will be handed to the airport security once landed. Usually passengers will be requested to hold deplaning until security has detained the unruly passenger.



        Source: I'm a cabin crewmember.







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