Visa ban/ British passport application
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I have been refused a UK visa because of a fake immigration stamp.
The picture attached is the document I was given.
However, I am a British citizen by descent but haven't made applications for my passport..
Is this an outright ban and can I still apply for a British passport or does this affect my British passport applications?
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asked Mar 26 at 11:16
Ayobamidele
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I have been refused a UK visa because of a fake immigration stamp.
The picture attached is the document I was given.
However, I am a British citizen by descent but haven't made applications for my passport..
Is this an outright ban and can I still apply for a British passport or does this affect my British passport applications?
passports visa-refusals nigerian-citizens
asked Mar 26 at 11:16
Ayobamidele
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British citizen by descentSo why were you applying for a visa ? Your fake entry/exit stamps seems quite shady. Why are they in your passport ? From the last paragraph it seems the 10 year ban is in force now. Not sure how your passport applications will be entertained, but your current ban will be available to the officer deciding your citizenship application.
– DumbCoder
Mar 26 at 11:50
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You can bet that they are going to very carefully scrutinize the application for a passport.
– DJClayworth
Mar 26 at 17:06
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What were you even thinking by getting so many stamps on the same day?
– greatone
Mar 26 at 17:24
2
Right now, OP's credibility is shot, given the fact that there are at least 8 supposedly counterfeit visa stamps on the passport. At this point, nobody in the Home Office or any government office in the UK is going to believe the OP
– Matthew Barclay
Mar 26 at 19:06
2
@greatone considering that one can drive from Ghana to Nigeria in three to four hours, passing through Togo and Benin, it's not so surprising that someone would have so many stamps on a single day.
– phoog
Mar 26 at 19:43
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up vote
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up vote
7
down vote
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I have been refused a UK visa because of a fake immigration stamp.
The picture attached is the document I was given.
However, I am a British citizen by descent but haven't made applications for my passport..
Is this an outright ban and can I still apply for a British passport or does this affect my British passport applications?
passports visa-refusals nigerian-citizens
asked Mar 26 at 11:16
Ayobamidele
815
I have been refused a UK visa because of a fake immigration stamp.
The picture attached is the document I was given.
However, I am a British citizen by descent but haven't made applications for my passport..
Is this an outright ban and can I still apply for a British passport or does this affect my British passport applications?
passports visa-refusals nigerian-citizens
asked Mar 26 at 11:16
Ayobamidele
815
asked Mar 26 at 11:16
Ayobamidele
815
asked Mar 26 at 11:16
Ayobamidele
815
asked Mar 26 at 11:16
Ayobamidele
815
815
21
British citizen by descentSo why were you applying for a visa ? Your fake entry/exit stamps seems quite shady. Why are they in your passport ? From the last paragraph it seems the 10 year ban is in force now. Not sure how your passport applications will be entertained, but your current ban will be available to the officer deciding your citizenship application.
– DumbCoder
Mar 26 at 11:50
10
You can bet that they are going to very carefully scrutinize the application for a passport.
– DJClayworth
Mar 26 at 17:06
6
What were you even thinking by getting so many stamps on the same day?
– greatone
Mar 26 at 17:24
2
Right now, OP's credibility is shot, given the fact that there are at least 8 supposedly counterfeit visa stamps on the passport. At this point, nobody in the Home Office or any government office in the UK is going to believe the OP
– Matthew Barclay
Mar 26 at 19:06
2
@greatone considering that one can drive from Ghana to Nigeria in three to four hours, passing through Togo and Benin, it's not so surprising that someone would have so many stamps on a single day.
– phoog
Mar 26 at 19:43
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British citizen by descentSo why were you applying for a visa ? Your fake entry/exit stamps seems quite shady. Why are they in your passport ? From the last paragraph it seems the 10 year ban is in force now. Not sure how your passport applications will be entertained, but your current ban will be available to the officer deciding your citizenship application.
– DumbCoder
Mar 26 at 11:50
10
You can bet that they are going to very carefully scrutinize the application for a passport.
– DJClayworth
Mar 26 at 17:06
6
What were you even thinking by getting so many stamps on the same day?
– greatone
Mar 26 at 17:24
2
Right now, OP's credibility is shot, given the fact that there are at least 8 supposedly counterfeit visa stamps on the passport. At this point, nobody in the Home Office or any government office in the UK is going to believe the OP
– Matthew Barclay
Mar 26 at 19:06
2
@greatone considering that one can drive from Ghana to Nigeria in three to four hours, passing through Togo and Benin, it's not so surprising that someone would have so many stamps on a single day.
– phoog
Mar 26 at 19:43
21
21
British citizen by descent So why were you applying for a visa ? Your fake entry/exit stamps seems quite shady. Why are they in your passport ? From the last paragraph it seems the 10 year ban is in force now. Not sure how your passport applications will be entertained, but your current ban will be available to the officer deciding your citizenship application.– DumbCoder
Mar 26 at 11:50
British citizen by descent So why were you applying for a visa ? Your fake entry/exit stamps seems quite shady. Why are they in your passport ? From the last paragraph it seems the 10 year ban is in force now. Not sure how your passport applications will be entertained, but your current ban will be available to the officer deciding your citizenship application.– DumbCoder
Mar 26 at 11:50
10
10
You can bet that they are going to very carefully scrutinize the application for a passport.
– DJClayworth
Mar 26 at 17:06
You can bet that they are going to very carefully scrutinize the application for a passport.
– DJClayworth
Mar 26 at 17:06
6
6
What were you even thinking by getting so many stamps on the same day?
– greatone
Mar 26 at 17:24
What were you even thinking by getting so many stamps on the same day?
– greatone
Mar 26 at 17:24
2
2
Right now, OP's credibility is shot, given the fact that there are at least 8 supposedly counterfeit visa stamps on the passport. At this point, nobody in the Home Office or any government office in the UK is going to believe the OP
– Matthew Barclay
Mar 26 at 19:06
Right now, OP's credibility is shot, given the fact that there are at least 8 supposedly counterfeit visa stamps on the passport. At this point, nobody in the Home Office or any government office in the UK is going to believe the OP
– Matthew Barclay
Mar 26 at 19:06
2
2
@greatone considering that one can drive from Ghana to Nigeria in three to four hours, passing through Togo and Benin, it's not so surprising that someone would have so many stamps on a single day.
– phoog
Mar 26 at 19:43
@greatone considering that one can drive from Ghana to Nigeria in three to four hours, passing through Togo and Benin, it's not so surprising that someone would have so many stamps on a single day.
– phoog
Mar 26 at 19:43
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If you are indeed a British citizen, by descent or otherwise, then the provisions of the Immigration Act 1971 pertaining to foreign citizens do not apply to you. The portion defining the offence of deception begins:
A person who is not a British citizen is guilty of an offence if...
Furthermore, deception as a ground for refusal is defined in the Immigration Rules. Part 9 concerns "General grounds for the refusal of entry clearance, leave to enter or variation of leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom (paragraphs A320 to 324)." None of that has to do with passport applications.
There is a policy document about refusal of passport applications. It says nothing about deception.
There is also a document describing the issue of passports as an exercise of royal prerogative. This document suggests that your passport will be granted unless your
past or proposed activities are so demonstrably undesirable that the grant or continued enjoyment of passport facilities would be contrary to the public interest (these cases are very rare and decisions on this category are made personally by the Home Secretary);
answered Mar 26 at 14:16
phoog
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can i go ahead and send in an application for a passport?
– Ayobamidele
Mar 27 at 9:57
@Ayobamidele yes.
– phoog
Mar 27 at 12:21
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If you’re a British citizen by descent, then it’s odd that you went through the visa process when you could have instead obtained a genuine British passport (possibly even for less money and/or with less admin than for a visa).
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then you can apply for a British passport. You will need to provide documentation pertaining to your parents, and possibly also your grandparents.
You can start your application here: https://www.gov.uk/apply-renew-passport
If you have a genuine right to citizenship by descent, then this right is unaffected by any criminal activity or denied visas. But you can be sure they will take a hard look at your application.
answered Mar 28 at 8:32
Barry Chuckle
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
oldest
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up vote
16
down vote
accepted
If you are indeed a British citizen, by descent or otherwise, then the provisions of the Immigration Act 1971 pertaining to foreign citizens do not apply to you. The portion defining the offence of deception begins:
A person who is not a British citizen is guilty of an offence if...
Furthermore, deception as a ground for refusal is defined in the Immigration Rules. Part 9 concerns "General grounds for the refusal of entry clearance, leave to enter or variation of leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom (paragraphs A320 to 324)." None of that has to do with passport applications.
There is a policy document about refusal of passport applications. It says nothing about deception.
There is also a document describing the issue of passports as an exercise of royal prerogative. This document suggests that your passport will be granted unless your
past or proposed activities are so demonstrably undesirable that the grant or continued enjoyment of passport facilities would be contrary to the public interest (these cases are very rare and decisions on this category are made personally by the Home Secretary);
answered Mar 26 at 14:16
phoog
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can i go ahead and send in an application for a passport?
– Ayobamidele
Mar 27 at 9:57
@Ayobamidele yes.
– phoog
Mar 27 at 12:21
add a comment |Â
up vote
16
down vote
accepted
If you are indeed a British citizen, by descent or otherwise, then the provisions of the Immigration Act 1971 pertaining to foreign citizens do not apply to you. The portion defining the offence of deception begins:
A person who is not a British citizen is guilty of an offence if...
Furthermore, deception as a ground for refusal is defined in the Immigration Rules. Part 9 concerns "General grounds for the refusal of entry clearance, leave to enter or variation of leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom (paragraphs A320 to 324)." None of that has to do with passport applications.
There is a policy document about refusal of passport applications. It says nothing about deception.
There is also a document describing the issue of passports as an exercise of royal prerogative. This document suggests that your passport will be granted unless your
past or proposed activities are so demonstrably undesirable that the grant or continued enjoyment of passport facilities would be contrary to the public interest (these cases are very rare and decisions on this category are made personally by the Home Secretary);
answered Mar 26 at 14:16
phoog
60.9k9131190
1
can i go ahead and send in an application for a passport?
– Ayobamidele
Mar 27 at 9:57
@Ayobamidele yes.
– phoog
Mar 27 at 12:21
add a comment |Â
up vote
16
down vote
accepted
up vote
16
down vote
accepted
If you are indeed a British citizen, by descent or otherwise, then the provisions of the Immigration Act 1971 pertaining to foreign citizens do not apply to you. The portion defining the offence of deception begins:
A person who is not a British citizen is guilty of an offence if...
Furthermore, deception as a ground for refusal is defined in the Immigration Rules. Part 9 concerns "General grounds for the refusal of entry clearance, leave to enter or variation of leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom (paragraphs A320 to 324)." None of that has to do with passport applications.
There is a policy document about refusal of passport applications. It says nothing about deception.
There is also a document describing the issue of passports as an exercise of royal prerogative. This document suggests that your passport will be granted unless your
past or proposed activities are so demonstrably undesirable that the grant or continued enjoyment of passport facilities would be contrary to the public interest (these cases are very rare and decisions on this category are made personally by the Home Secretary);
answered Mar 26 at 14:16
phoog
60.9k9131190
If you are indeed a British citizen, by descent or otherwise, then the provisions of the Immigration Act 1971 pertaining to foreign citizens do not apply to you. The portion defining the offence of deception begins:
A person who is not a British citizen is guilty of an offence if...
Furthermore, deception as a ground for refusal is defined in the Immigration Rules. Part 9 concerns "General grounds for the refusal of entry clearance, leave to enter or variation of leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom (paragraphs A320 to 324)." None of that has to do with passport applications.
There is a policy document about refusal of passport applications. It says nothing about deception.
There is also a document describing the issue of passports as an exercise of royal prerogative. This document suggests that your passport will be granted unless your
past or proposed activities are so demonstrably undesirable that the grant or continued enjoyment of passport facilities would be contrary to the public interest (these cases are very rare and decisions on this category are made personally by the Home Secretary);
answered Mar 26 at 14:16
phoog
60.9k9131190
answered Mar 26 at 14:16
phoog
60.9k9131190
answered Mar 26 at 14:16
phoog
60.9k9131190
answered Mar 26 at 14:16
phoog
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can i go ahead and send in an application for a passport?
– Ayobamidele
Mar 27 at 9:57
@Ayobamidele yes.
– phoog
Mar 27 at 12:21
add a comment |Â
1
can i go ahead and send in an application for a passport?
– Ayobamidele
Mar 27 at 9:57
@Ayobamidele yes.
– phoog
Mar 27 at 12:21
1
1
can i go ahead and send in an application for a passport?
– Ayobamidele
Mar 27 at 9:57
can i go ahead and send in an application for a passport?
– Ayobamidele
Mar 27 at 9:57
@Ayobamidele yes.
– phoog
Mar 27 at 12:21
@Ayobamidele yes.
– phoog
Mar 27 at 12:21
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then it’s odd that you went through the visa process when you could have instead obtained a genuine British passport (possibly even for less money and/or with less admin than for a visa).
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then you can apply for a British passport. You will need to provide documentation pertaining to your parents, and possibly also your grandparents.
You can start your application here: https://www.gov.uk/apply-renew-passport
If you have a genuine right to citizenship by descent, then this right is unaffected by any criminal activity or denied visas. But you can be sure they will take a hard look at your application.
answered Mar 28 at 8:32
Barry Chuckle
112
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then it’s odd that you went through the visa process when you could have instead obtained a genuine British passport (possibly even for less money and/or with less admin than for a visa).
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then you can apply for a British passport. You will need to provide documentation pertaining to your parents, and possibly also your grandparents.
You can start your application here: https://www.gov.uk/apply-renew-passport
If you have a genuine right to citizenship by descent, then this right is unaffected by any criminal activity or denied visas. But you can be sure they will take a hard look at your application.
answered Mar 28 at 8:32
Barry Chuckle
112
add a comment |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then it’s odd that you went through the visa process when you could have instead obtained a genuine British passport (possibly even for less money and/or with less admin than for a visa).
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then you can apply for a British passport. You will need to provide documentation pertaining to your parents, and possibly also your grandparents.
You can start your application here: https://www.gov.uk/apply-renew-passport
If you have a genuine right to citizenship by descent, then this right is unaffected by any criminal activity or denied visas. But you can be sure they will take a hard look at your application.
answered Mar 28 at 8:32
Barry Chuckle
112
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then it’s odd that you went through the visa process when you could have instead obtained a genuine British passport (possibly even for less money and/or with less admin than for a visa).
If you’re a British citizen by descent, then you can apply for a British passport. You will need to provide documentation pertaining to your parents, and possibly also your grandparents.
You can start your application here: https://www.gov.uk/apply-renew-passport
If you have a genuine right to citizenship by descent, then this right is unaffected by any criminal activity or denied visas. But you can be sure they will take a hard look at your application.
answered Mar 28 at 8:32
Barry Chuckle
112
answered Mar 28 at 8:32
Barry Chuckle
112
answered Mar 28 at 8:32
Barry Chuckle
112
answered Mar 28 at 8:32
Barry Chuckle
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British citizen by descentSo why were you applying for a visa ? Your fake entry/exit stamps seems quite shady. Why are they in your passport ? From the last paragraph it seems the 10 year ban is in force now. Not sure how your passport applications will be entertained, but your current ban will be available to the officer deciding your citizenship application.– DumbCoder
Mar 26 at 11:50
10
You can bet that they are going to very carefully scrutinize the application for a passport.
– DJClayworth
Mar 26 at 17:06
6
What were you even thinking by getting so many stamps on the same day?
– greatone
Mar 26 at 17:24
2
Right now, OP's credibility is shot, given the fact that there are at least 8 supposedly counterfeit visa stamps on the passport. At this point, nobody in the Home Office or any government office in the UK is going to believe the OP
– Matthew Barclay
Mar 26 at 19:06
2
@greatone considering that one can drive from Ghana to Nigeria in three to four hours, passing through Togo and Benin, it's not so surprising that someone would have so many stamps on a single day.
– phoog
Mar 26 at 19:43