Can I renew my children's expired ESTA while remaining in the USA?



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I am an American citizen and my kids (11 and 7 years old) were born in Italy (Italian passport holders). They came to visit me on an ESTA.
Can I renew their ESTA without them having to leave the country?



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    Are you certain that they're not dual citizens (it's unusual for a US citizen to have children who are not US citizens; in most circumstances the US citizenship passes from the parent to the child even when the child is born abroad)? If they're truly not US citizens, how long do you want them to stay in the US? The correct course of action in your case depends on the answers to these questions..
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I am an American citizen and my kids (11 and 7 years old) were born in Italy (Italian passport holders). They came to visit me on an ESTA.
Can I renew their ESTA without them having to leave the country?



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    Are you certain that they're not dual citizens (it's unusual for a US citizen to have children who are not US citizens; in most circumstances the US citizenship passes from the parent to the child even when the child is born abroad)? If they're truly not US citizens, how long do you want them to stay in the US? The correct course of action in your case depends on the answers to these questions..
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I am an American citizen and my kids (11 and 7 years old) were born in Italy (Italian passport holders). They came to visit me on an ESTA.
Can I renew their ESTA without them having to leave the country?



Thank you.










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I am an American citizen and my kids (11 and 7 years old) were born in Italy (Italian passport holders). They came to visit me on an ESTA.
Can I renew their ESTA without them having to leave the country?



Thank you.







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    Are you certain that they're not dual citizens (it's unusual for a US citizen to have children who are not US citizens; in most circumstances the US citizenship passes from the parent to the child even when the child is born abroad)? If they're truly not US citizens, how long do you want them to stay in the US? The correct course of action in your case depends on the answers to these questions..
    – phoog
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:28













  • 12




    Are you certain that they're not dual citizens (it's unusual for a US citizen to have children who are not US citizens; in most circumstances the US citizenship passes from the parent to the child even when the child is born abroad)? If they're truly not US citizens, how long do you want them to stay in the US? The correct course of action in your case depends on the answers to these questions..
    – phoog
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:28








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Are you certain that they're not dual citizens (it's unusual for a US citizen to have children who are not US citizens; in most circumstances the US citizenship passes from the parent to the child even when the child is born abroad)? If they're truly not US citizens, how long do you want them to stay in the US? The correct course of action in your case depends on the answers to these questions..
– phoog
Oct 5 '17 at 15:28





Are you certain that they're not dual citizens (it's unusual for a US citizen to have children who are not US citizens; in most circumstances the US citizenship passes from the parent to the child even when the child is born abroad)? If they're truly not US citizens, how long do you want them to stay in the US? The correct course of action in your case depends on the answers to these questions..
– phoog
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ESTA is not a visa. It's a travel authorization for the US. If you arrive in the US by plane or boat, on a Visa Waiver, you need this to board the plane or boat. It doesn't say anything about the length of stay in the US.



Your kids are in the US on a Visa Waiver, which is valid for 90 days. The ESTA is valid for 2 years. If you want them to stay longer than the 90 days, you'll have to work out what visa they can apply for. But it has nothing to do with the ESTA.






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    The kids cannot apply for a visa while they're in the US.
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  • Never said they could. Just that if they wanted to stay longer with their mom, they'd need a visa. Border hopping on a visa waiver ain't gonna work.
    – user67108
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:37






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    But that's not necessarily true. Immediate relatives of US citizens can adjust status without leaving the US (an exception to the usual restriction on VWP visitors). So they might not need a visa at all.
    – phoog
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AIUI (this is based on what I have read online, I am not an expert)



First you need to figure out if your children are dual citizens. Many but not all children born abroad to a US parent will be US citizens.



If your children are US citizens then they have the right to live in the US as long as they like. They should get US passports to allow them to freely leave and re-enter the US.



Secondly understand there is a difference in the US between "Visa" and "Status", similarly there is a difference between and "ESTA" and a "Visa waiver program status". Once your children are in the US expiry of the ESTA is irrelevent and extending it won't help, what matters is the expiry of the status granted when they entered the US.



Normally aliens admitted under the Visa waiver program are not allowed to change or extend their status. It appears there is an exemption for close relatives of a US citizen but it is not clear to me whether that exemption only allows adjustment to permanent residence or whether it allows the alien to remain in non-immigrant status.



One thing you don't say is whether the other parent is cooperative and contactable. I know that getting a US passport for a child normally requires the consent of both parents, I'm not sure if the same applies to adjustments of status. If the other parent is uncooperative or uncontactable then it is almost certainly time to get a lawyer involved.






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    ESTA is not a visa. It's a travel authorization for the US. If you arrive in the US by plane or boat, on a Visa Waiver, you need this to board the plane or boat. It doesn't say anything about the length of stay in the US.



    Your kids are in the US on a Visa Waiver, which is valid for 90 days. The ESTA is valid for 2 years. If you want them to stay longer than the 90 days, you'll have to work out what visa they can apply for. But it has nothing to do with the ESTA.






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      The kids cannot apply for a visa while they're in the US.
      – phoog
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:29










    • Never said they could. Just that if they wanted to stay longer with their mom, they'd need a visa. Border hopping on a visa waiver ain't gonna work.
      – user67108
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:37






    • 9




      But that's not necessarily true. Immediate relatives of US citizens can adjust status without leaving the US (an exception to the usual restriction on VWP visitors). So they might not need a visa at all.
      – phoog
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:42















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    ESTA is not a visa. It's a travel authorization for the US. If you arrive in the US by plane or boat, on a Visa Waiver, you need this to board the plane or boat. It doesn't say anything about the length of stay in the US.



    Your kids are in the US on a Visa Waiver, which is valid for 90 days. The ESTA is valid for 2 years. If you want them to stay longer than the 90 days, you'll have to work out what visa they can apply for. But it has nothing to do with the ESTA.






    share|improve this answer


















    • 4




      The kids cannot apply for a visa while they're in the US.
      – phoog
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:29










    • Never said they could. Just that if they wanted to stay longer with their mom, they'd need a visa. Border hopping on a visa waiver ain't gonna work.
      – user67108
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:37






    • 9




      But that's not necessarily true. Immediate relatives of US citizens can adjust status without leaving the US (an exception to the usual restriction on VWP visitors). So they might not need a visa at all.
      – phoog
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:42













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    ESTA is not a visa. It's a travel authorization for the US. If you arrive in the US by plane or boat, on a Visa Waiver, you need this to board the plane or boat. It doesn't say anything about the length of stay in the US.



    Your kids are in the US on a Visa Waiver, which is valid for 90 days. The ESTA is valid for 2 years. If you want them to stay longer than the 90 days, you'll have to work out what visa they can apply for. But it has nothing to do with the ESTA.






    share|improve this answer














    ESTA is not a visa. It's a travel authorization for the US. If you arrive in the US by plane or boat, on a Visa Waiver, you need this to board the plane or boat. It doesn't say anything about the length of stay in the US.



    Your kids are in the US on a Visa Waiver, which is valid for 90 days. The ESTA is valid for 2 years. If you want them to stay longer than the 90 days, you'll have to work out what visa they can apply for. But it has nothing to do with the ESTA.







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      The kids cannot apply for a visa while they're in the US.
      – phoog
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:29










    • Never said they could. Just that if they wanted to stay longer with their mom, they'd need a visa. Border hopping on a visa waiver ain't gonna work.
      – user67108
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:37






    • 9




      But that's not necessarily true. Immediate relatives of US citizens can adjust status without leaving the US (an exception to the usual restriction on VWP visitors). So they might not need a visa at all.
      – phoog
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:42













    • 4




      The kids cannot apply for a visa while they're in the US.
      – phoog
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:29










    • Never said they could. Just that if they wanted to stay longer with their mom, they'd need a visa. Border hopping on a visa waiver ain't gonna work.
      – user67108
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:37






    • 9




      But that's not necessarily true. Immediate relatives of US citizens can adjust status without leaving the US (an exception to the usual restriction on VWP visitors). So they might not need a visa at all.
      – phoog
      Oct 5 '17 at 15:42








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    The kids cannot apply for a visa while they're in the US.
    – phoog
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:29




    The kids cannot apply for a visa while they're in the US.
    – phoog
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:29












    Never said they could. Just that if they wanted to stay longer with their mom, they'd need a visa. Border hopping on a visa waiver ain't gonna work.
    – user67108
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:37




    Never said they could. Just that if they wanted to stay longer with their mom, they'd need a visa. Border hopping on a visa waiver ain't gonna work.
    – user67108
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:37




    9




    9




    But that's not necessarily true. Immediate relatives of US citizens can adjust status without leaving the US (an exception to the usual restriction on VWP visitors). So they might not need a visa at all.
    – phoog
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:42





    But that's not necessarily true. Immediate relatives of US citizens can adjust status without leaving the US (an exception to the usual restriction on VWP visitors). So they might not need a visa at all.
    – phoog
    Oct 5 '17 at 15:42













    up vote
    0
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    AIUI (this is based on what I have read online, I am not an expert)



    First you need to figure out if your children are dual citizens. Many but not all children born abroad to a US parent will be US citizens.



    If your children are US citizens then they have the right to live in the US as long as they like. They should get US passports to allow them to freely leave and re-enter the US.



    Secondly understand there is a difference in the US between "Visa" and "Status", similarly there is a difference between and "ESTA" and a "Visa waiver program status". Once your children are in the US expiry of the ESTA is irrelevent and extending it won't help, what matters is the expiry of the status granted when they entered the US.



    Normally aliens admitted under the Visa waiver program are not allowed to change or extend their status. It appears there is an exemption for close relatives of a US citizen but it is not clear to me whether that exemption only allows adjustment to permanent residence or whether it allows the alien to remain in non-immigrant status.



    One thing you don't say is whether the other parent is cooperative and contactable. I know that getting a US passport for a child normally requires the consent of both parents, I'm not sure if the same applies to adjustments of status. If the other parent is uncooperative or uncontactable then it is almost certainly time to get a lawyer involved.






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      up vote
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      AIUI (this is based on what I have read online, I am not an expert)



      First you need to figure out if your children are dual citizens. Many but not all children born abroad to a US parent will be US citizens.



      If your children are US citizens then they have the right to live in the US as long as they like. They should get US passports to allow them to freely leave and re-enter the US.



      Secondly understand there is a difference in the US between "Visa" and "Status", similarly there is a difference between and "ESTA" and a "Visa waiver program status". Once your children are in the US expiry of the ESTA is irrelevent and extending it won't help, what matters is the expiry of the status granted when they entered the US.



      Normally aliens admitted under the Visa waiver program are not allowed to change or extend their status. It appears there is an exemption for close relatives of a US citizen but it is not clear to me whether that exemption only allows adjustment to permanent residence or whether it allows the alien to remain in non-immigrant status.



      One thing you don't say is whether the other parent is cooperative and contactable. I know that getting a US passport for a child normally requires the consent of both parents, I'm not sure if the same applies to adjustments of status. If the other parent is uncooperative or uncontactable then it is almost certainly time to get a lawyer involved.






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        AIUI (this is based on what I have read online, I am not an expert)



        First you need to figure out if your children are dual citizens. Many but not all children born abroad to a US parent will be US citizens.



        If your children are US citizens then they have the right to live in the US as long as they like. They should get US passports to allow them to freely leave and re-enter the US.



        Secondly understand there is a difference in the US between "Visa" and "Status", similarly there is a difference between and "ESTA" and a "Visa waiver program status". Once your children are in the US expiry of the ESTA is irrelevent and extending it won't help, what matters is the expiry of the status granted when they entered the US.



        Normally aliens admitted under the Visa waiver program are not allowed to change or extend their status. It appears there is an exemption for close relatives of a US citizen but it is not clear to me whether that exemption only allows adjustment to permanent residence or whether it allows the alien to remain in non-immigrant status.



        One thing you don't say is whether the other parent is cooperative and contactable. I know that getting a US passport for a child normally requires the consent of both parents, I'm not sure if the same applies to adjustments of status. If the other parent is uncooperative or uncontactable then it is almost certainly time to get a lawyer involved.






        share|improve this answer












        AIUI (this is based on what I have read online, I am not an expert)



        First you need to figure out if your children are dual citizens. Many but not all children born abroad to a US parent will be US citizens.



        If your children are US citizens then they have the right to live in the US as long as they like. They should get US passports to allow them to freely leave and re-enter the US.



        Secondly understand there is a difference in the US between "Visa" and "Status", similarly there is a difference between and "ESTA" and a "Visa waiver program status". Once your children are in the US expiry of the ESTA is irrelevent and extending it won't help, what matters is the expiry of the status granted when they entered the US.



        Normally aliens admitted under the Visa waiver program are not allowed to change or extend their status. It appears there is an exemption for close relatives of a US citizen but it is not clear to me whether that exemption only allows adjustment to permanent residence or whether it allows the alien to remain in non-immigrant status.



        One thing you don't say is whether the other parent is cooperative and contactable. I know that getting a US passport for a child normally requires the consent of both parents, I'm not sure if the same applies to adjustments of status. If the other parent is uncooperative or uncontactable then it is almost certainly time to get a lawyer involved.







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