Can I get an Italian student visa with a criminal record in Germany? [closed]
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I'm from the Middle East. In 2015, I traveled to Germany and some other European countries for a month. In the last days in Berlin, my friend and I did something stupid and stole something small, just to find out whether we would be caught; we were drunk. We were, and the police recorded the offence but, because it was our first offence, we were free to go, but we had to sign a police document.
I have been accepted at universities in Italy for my Master's, but I am afraid to apply for a visa at the Embassy. Is a person's history shared between Schengen countries? Will Italy give me student visa or would I be refused because of the German police record?
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asked Jan 14 at 16:44
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closed as off-topic by Tor-Einar Jarnbjo, Newton, Ali Awan, Danubian Sailor, o.m. Jan 15 at 19:23
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I'm from the Middle East. In 2015, I traveled to Germany and some other European countries for a month. In the last days in Berlin, my friend and I did something stupid and stole something small, just to find out whether we would be caught; we were drunk. We were, and the police recorded the offence but, because it was our first offence, we were free to go, but we had to sign a police document.
I have been accepted at universities in Italy for my Master's, but I am afraid to apply for a visa at the Embassy. Is a person's history shared between Schengen countries? Will Italy give me student visa or would I be refused because of the German police record?
schengen germany italian-schengen-visas criminal-records
asked Jan 14 at 16:44
sara
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closed as off-topic by Tor-Einar Jarnbjo, Newton, Ali Awan, Danubian Sailor, o.m. Jan 15 at 19:23
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Tor-Einar Jarnbjo, Newton, Ali Awan, Danubian Sailor, o.m.
What was the exact nature and content of the 'police document' you signed?
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 18:01
I steal a glove from store, they just saw my passport and i signed a paper that wrote i know that i steal something and i dont do it again. In getting out of Germany there was no problem at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 18:47
Was the police document signed on the same day or later? Does the word "Einstellung" appear anywhere?
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:13
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Since you seem to have a strong interest in visiting Italy, I think the most straightforward action would be go to the Italian ambassy and ask the visa. The worst that can happen is that you lose some time and money and get the visa denied. And I sincerely doubt that the episode that you describe will be enough to cause a denial (there could be other reasons, though).
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:47
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Put another way: If the answer were "there is 90% chance of denial and 10% chance of approval"... would you just drop the issue or would you try just to see if the 10% possibility happens? Seems that you have invested enough time and money to just drop the issue.
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:50
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I'm from the Middle East. In 2015, I traveled to Germany and some other European countries for a month. In the last days in Berlin, my friend and I did something stupid and stole something small, just to find out whether we would be caught; we were drunk. We were, and the police recorded the offence but, because it was our first offence, we were free to go, but we had to sign a police document.
I have been accepted at universities in Italy for my Master's, but I am afraid to apply for a visa at the Embassy. Is a person's history shared between Schengen countries? Will Italy give me student visa or would I be refused because of the German police record?
schengen germany italian-schengen-visas criminal-records
asked Jan 14 at 16:44
sara
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I'm from the Middle East. In 2015, I traveled to Germany and some other European countries for a month. In the last days in Berlin, my friend and I did something stupid and stole something small, just to find out whether we would be caught; we were drunk. We were, and the police recorded the offence but, because it was our first offence, we were free to go, but we had to sign a police document.
I have been accepted at universities in Italy for my Master's, but I am afraid to apply for a visa at the Embassy. Is a person's history shared between Schengen countries? Will Italy give me student visa or would I be refused because of the German police record?
schengen germany italian-schengen-visas criminal-records
schengen germany italian-schengen-visas criminal-records
asked Jan 14 at 16:44
sara
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asked Jan 14 at 16:44
sara
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edited Jan 14 at 17:21
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asked Jan 14 at 16:44
sara
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asked Jan 14 at 16:44
sara
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asked Jan 14 at 16:44
sara
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closed as off-topic by Tor-Einar Jarnbjo, Newton, Ali Awan, Danubian Sailor, o.m. Jan 15 at 19:23
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Tor-Einar Jarnbjo, Newton, Ali Awan, Danubian Sailor, o.m.
closed as off-topic by Tor-Einar Jarnbjo, Newton, Ali Awan, Danubian Sailor, o.m. Jan 15 at 19:23
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Tor-Einar Jarnbjo, Newton, Ali Awan, Danubian Sailor, o.m.
What was the exact nature and content of the 'police document' you signed?
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 18:01
I steal a glove from store, they just saw my passport and i signed a paper that wrote i know that i steal something and i dont do it again. In getting out of Germany there was no problem at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 18:47
Was the police document signed on the same day or later? Does the word "Einstellung" appear anywhere?
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:13
3
Since you seem to have a strong interest in visiting Italy, I think the most straightforward action would be go to the Italian ambassy and ask the visa. The worst that can happen is that you lose some time and money and get the visa denied. And I sincerely doubt that the episode that you describe will be enough to cause a denial (there could be other reasons, though).
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:47
1
Put another way: If the answer were "there is 90% chance of denial and 10% chance of approval"... would you just drop the issue or would you try just to see if the 10% possibility happens? Seems that you have invested enough time and money to just drop the issue.
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:50
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What was the exact nature and content of the 'police document' you signed?
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 18:01
I steal a glove from store, they just saw my passport and i signed a paper that wrote i know that i steal something and i dont do it again. In getting out of Germany there was no problem at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 18:47
Was the police document signed on the same day or later? Does the word "Einstellung" appear anywhere?
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:13
3
Since you seem to have a strong interest in visiting Italy, I think the most straightforward action would be go to the Italian ambassy and ask the visa. The worst that can happen is that you lose some time and money and get the visa denied. And I sincerely doubt that the episode that you describe will be enough to cause a denial (there could be other reasons, though).
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:47
1
Put another way: If the answer were "there is 90% chance of denial and 10% chance of approval"... would you just drop the issue or would you try just to see if the 10% possibility happens? Seems that you have invested enough time and money to just drop the issue.
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:50
What was the exact nature and content of the 'police document' you signed?
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 18:01
What was the exact nature and content of the 'police document' you signed?
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 18:01
I steal a glove from store, they just saw my passport and i signed a paper that wrote i know that i steal something and i dont do it again. In getting out of Germany there was no problem at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 18:47
I steal a glove from store, they just saw my passport and i signed a paper that wrote i know that i steal something and i dont do it again. In getting out of Germany there was no problem at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 18:47
Was the police document signed on the same day or later? Does the word "Einstellung" appear anywhere?
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:13
Was the police document signed on the same day or later? Does the word "Einstellung" appear anywhere?
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:13
3
3
Since you seem to have a strong interest in visiting Italy, I think the most straightforward action would be go to the Italian ambassy and ask the visa. The worst that can happen is that you lose some time and money and get the visa denied. And I sincerely doubt that the episode that you describe will be enough to cause a denial (there could be other reasons, though).
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:47
Since you seem to have a strong interest in visiting Italy, I think the most straightforward action would be go to the Italian ambassy and ask the visa. The worst that can happen is that you lose some time and money and get the visa denied. And I sincerely doubt that the episode that you describe will be enough to cause a denial (there could be other reasons, though).
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:47
1
1
Put another way: If the answer were "there is 90% chance of denial and 10% chance of approval"... would you just drop the issue or would you try just to see if the 10% possibility happens? Seems that you have invested enough time and money to just drop the issue.
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:50
Put another way: If the answer were "there is 90% chance of denial and 10% chance of approval"... would you just drop the issue or would you try just to see if the 10% possibility happens? Seems that you have invested enough time and money to just drop the issue.
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:50
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Does a criminal record in a different Schengen country affect visa applications?
Criminal data may be entered into the Schengen Information System (SIS II). As Tor-Einar pointed out, there is no complete and automatic information-sharing between the police and judiciary in the Schengen area.
Do you have a criminal record?
Germany has the Bundeszentralregister for criminal convictions or related data. You do not have one of those, or you would have noticed. Should an official form ask if you have been convicted of a crime, the answer is no with regard to this incident.
Germany has the Zentrales Staatsanwaltschaftliches Verfahrensregister for open or finished criminal investigations. You might have an entry in there. Should a form ask if you have been charged with a crime, the answer might be yes, depending on how far this went before it was dismissed.
I'm a bit puzzled regarding the lack of paperwork. Even if the case had been closed, you should have been informed officially. Did you give a correct and current address?
answered Jan 14 at 19:11
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That was the exact day and hour at the mall, they came saw my passport i signed the document and they leave, i didnt go to any police office. The student visa is schengen. What do you think ? is it going to be a problem?
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:23
I didnt get any mail at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:25
Do you have the document? What is the headline? And it may or may not be a problem, you should apply and tell the truth if it comes up.
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:50
No they dont give me anything, thanks for your help. So you dont know the schengen countries share their police informations or not?
– sara
Jan 14 at 20:46
This answer is purely speculative and does not really add anything of interest or relevance. The OP already knows that he has to apply for an Italian visa. German and Italian authorities do not regularly share information from penal registers, but German authorities are notified about all Italian visa applications and may object if they have grounds for that in a national register.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 20:47
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Edited after the comments.
Does a criminal record in a different Schengen country affect visa applications?
Criminal data may be entered into the Schengen Information System (SIS II). As Tor-Einar pointed out, there is no complete and automatic information-sharing between the police and judiciary in the Schengen area.
Do you have a criminal record?
Germany has the Bundeszentralregister for criminal convictions or related data. You do not have one of those, or you would have noticed. Should an official form ask if you have been convicted of a crime, the answer is no with regard to this incident.
Germany has the Zentrales Staatsanwaltschaftliches Verfahrensregister for open or finished criminal investigations. You might have an entry in there. Should a form ask if you have been charged with a crime, the answer might be yes, depending on how far this went before it was dismissed.
I'm a bit puzzled regarding the lack of paperwork. Even if the case had been closed, you should have been informed officially. Did you give a correct and current address?
answered Jan 14 at 19:11
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That was the exact day and hour at the mall, they came saw my passport i signed the document and they leave, i didnt go to any police office. The student visa is schengen. What do you think ? is it going to be a problem?
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:23
I didnt get any mail at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:25
Do you have the document? What is the headline? And it may or may not be a problem, you should apply and tell the truth if it comes up.
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:50
No they dont give me anything, thanks for your help. So you dont know the schengen countries share their police informations or not?
– sara
Jan 14 at 20:46
This answer is purely speculative and does not really add anything of interest or relevance. The OP already knows that he has to apply for an Italian visa. German and Italian authorities do not regularly share information from penal registers, but German authorities are notified about all Italian visa applications and may object if they have grounds for that in a national register.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 20:47
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Edited after the comments.
Does a criminal record in a different Schengen country affect visa applications?
Criminal data may be entered into the Schengen Information System (SIS II). As Tor-Einar pointed out, there is no complete and automatic information-sharing between the police and judiciary in the Schengen area.
Do you have a criminal record?
Germany has the Bundeszentralregister for criminal convictions or related data. You do not have one of those, or you would have noticed. Should an official form ask if you have been convicted of a crime, the answer is no with regard to this incident.
Germany has the Zentrales Staatsanwaltschaftliches Verfahrensregister for open or finished criminal investigations. You might have an entry in there. Should a form ask if you have been charged with a crime, the answer might be yes, depending on how far this went before it was dismissed.
I'm a bit puzzled regarding the lack of paperwork. Even if the case had been closed, you should have been informed officially. Did you give a correct and current address?
answered Jan 14 at 19:11
o.m.
20.2k22952
That was the exact day and hour at the mall, they came saw my passport i signed the document and they leave, i didnt go to any police office. The student visa is schengen. What do you think ? is it going to be a problem?
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:23
I didnt get any mail at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:25
Do you have the document? What is the headline? And it may or may not be a problem, you should apply and tell the truth if it comes up.
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:50
No they dont give me anything, thanks for your help. So you dont know the schengen countries share their police informations or not?
– sara
Jan 14 at 20:46
This answer is purely speculative and does not really add anything of interest or relevance. The OP already knows that he has to apply for an Italian visa. German and Italian authorities do not regularly share information from penal registers, but German authorities are notified about all Italian visa applications and may object if they have grounds for that in a national register.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 20:47
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Edited after the comments.
Does a criminal record in a different Schengen country affect visa applications?
Criminal data may be entered into the Schengen Information System (SIS II). As Tor-Einar pointed out, there is no complete and automatic information-sharing between the police and judiciary in the Schengen area.
Do you have a criminal record?
Germany has the Bundeszentralregister for criminal convictions or related data. You do not have one of those, or you would have noticed. Should an official form ask if you have been convicted of a crime, the answer is no with regard to this incident.
Germany has the Zentrales Staatsanwaltschaftliches Verfahrensregister for open or finished criminal investigations. You might have an entry in there. Should a form ask if you have been charged with a crime, the answer might be yes, depending on how far this went before it was dismissed.
I'm a bit puzzled regarding the lack of paperwork. Even if the case had been closed, you should have been informed officially. Did you give a correct and current address?
answered Jan 14 at 19:11
o.m.
20.2k22952
Edited after the comments.
Does a criminal record in a different Schengen country affect visa applications?
Criminal data may be entered into the Schengen Information System (SIS II). As Tor-Einar pointed out, there is no complete and automatic information-sharing between the police and judiciary in the Schengen area.
Do you have a criminal record?
Germany has the Bundeszentralregister for criminal convictions or related data. You do not have one of those, or you would have noticed. Should an official form ask if you have been convicted of a crime, the answer is no with regard to this incident.
Germany has the Zentrales Staatsanwaltschaftliches Verfahrensregister for open or finished criminal investigations. You might have an entry in there. Should a form ask if you have been charged with a crime, the answer might be yes, depending on how far this went before it was dismissed.
I'm a bit puzzled regarding the lack of paperwork. Even if the case had been closed, you should have been informed officially. Did you give a correct and current address?
answered Jan 14 at 19:11
o.m.
20.2k22952
edited Jan 15 at 17:29
answered Jan 14 at 19:11
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answered Jan 14 at 19:11
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answered Jan 14 at 19:11
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That was the exact day and hour at the mall, they came saw my passport i signed the document and they leave, i didnt go to any police office. The student visa is schengen. What do you think ? is it going to be a problem?
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:23
I didnt get any mail at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:25
Do you have the document? What is the headline? And it may or may not be a problem, you should apply and tell the truth if it comes up.
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:50
No they dont give me anything, thanks for your help. So you dont know the schengen countries share their police informations or not?
– sara
Jan 14 at 20:46
This answer is purely speculative and does not really add anything of interest or relevance. The OP already knows that he has to apply for an Italian visa. German and Italian authorities do not regularly share information from penal registers, but German authorities are notified about all Italian visa applications and may object if they have grounds for that in a national register.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 20:47
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That was the exact day and hour at the mall, they came saw my passport i signed the document and they leave, i didnt go to any police office. The student visa is schengen. What do you think ? is it going to be a problem?
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:23
I didnt get any mail at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:25
Do you have the document? What is the headline? And it may or may not be a problem, you should apply and tell the truth if it comes up.
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:50
No they dont give me anything, thanks for your help. So you dont know the schengen countries share their police informations or not?
– sara
Jan 14 at 20:46
This answer is purely speculative and does not really add anything of interest or relevance. The OP already knows that he has to apply for an Italian visa. German and Italian authorities do not regularly share information from penal registers, but German authorities are notified about all Italian visa applications and may object if they have grounds for that in a national register.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 20:47
That was the exact day and hour at the mall, they came saw my passport i signed the document and they leave, i didnt go to any police office. The student visa is schengen. What do you think ? is it going to be a problem?
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:23
That was the exact day and hour at the mall, they came saw my passport i signed the document and they leave, i didnt go to any police office. The student visa is schengen. What do you think ? is it going to be a problem?
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:23
I didnt get any mail at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:25
I didnt get any mail at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 19:25
Do you have the document? What is the headline? And it may or may not be a problem, you should apply and tell the truth if it comes up.
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:50
Do you have the document? What is the headline? And it may or may not be a problem, you should apply and tell the truth if it comes up.
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:50
No they dont give me anything, thanks for your help. So you dont know the schengen countries share their police informations or not?
– sara
Jan 14 at 20:46
No they dont give me anything, thanks for your help. So you dont know the schengen countries share their police informations or not?
– sara
Jan 14 at 20:46
This answer is purely speculative and does not really add anything of interest or relevance. The OP already knows that he has to apply for an Italian visa. German and Italian authorities do not regularly share information from penal registers, but German authorities are notified about all Italian visa applications and may object if they have grounds for that in a national register.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 20:47
This answer is purely speculative and does not really add anything of interest or relevance. The OP already knows that he has to apply for an Italian visa. German and Italian authorities do not regularly share information from penal registers, but German authorities are notified about all Italian visa applications and may object if they have grounds for that in a national register.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 20:47
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What was the exact nature and content of the 'police document' you signed?
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Jan 14 at 18:01
I steal a glove from store, they just saw my passport and i signed a paper that wrote i know that i steal something and i dont do it again. In getting out of Germany there was no problem at all.
– sara
Jan 14 at 18:47
Was the police document signed on the same day or later? Does the word "Einstellung" appear anywhere?
– o.m.
Jan 14 at 19:13
3
Since you seem to have a strong interest in visiting Italy, I think the most straightforward action would be go to the Italian ambassy and ask the visa. The worst that can happen is that you lose some time and money and get the visa denied. And I sincerely doubt that the episode that you describe will be enough to cause a denial (there could be other reasons, though).
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:47
1
Put another way: If the answer were "there is 90% chance of denial and 10% chance of approval"... would you just drop the issue or would you try just to see if the 10% possibility happens? Seems that you have invested enough time and money to just drop the issue.
– SJuan76
Jan 14 at 20:50