What is the probability of “true” lost baggage (never returned to owner)?
In "true" lost baggage, I mean the loss of your baggage that is, in the end, not returned to an owner and going to end up in reparation.
According to the post here, the probability of the baggage being lost is 0.3%. However, this includes cases that the baggage is ultimately returned to the owner, which I assume consists of the most lost baggage occurences.
I would rather like to know how probable it is for you to lose your baggage completely. Is there any research or statistics on this area? Since the expected amount of money on reparation is ridiculously low in my humble opinion, I feel scared of this happening.
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In "true" lost baggage, I mean the loss of your baggage that is, in the end, not returned to an owner and going to end up in reparation.
According to the post here, the probability of the baggage being lost is 0.3%. However, this includes cases that the baggage is ultimately returned to the owner, which I assume consists of the most lost baggage occurences.
I would rather like to know how probable it is for you to lose your baggage completely. Is there any research or statistics on this area? Since the expected amount of money on reparation is ridiculously low in my humble opinion, I feel scared of this happening.
luggage statistics lost-luggage
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why are you scared of it happening specifically because the figures are low? That would mean it's less likely to happen...
– Kate Gregory
Mar 10 '17 at 17:39
I think that every country and airline must have a different probability and change in time. I myself have traveled twice to Mexico from Spain with British Airways, with a stop in London, four airplanes for the journey. One time I lost my baggage on the return at home. Well, my bag traveled a diferent route, going through several airports and hands. Finally, after 1 month, I recovered my bag; it was superficially damaged, with some cuts, and some stuff was missing. 25% lost in all trips 85% of things recovered from this total: 1.6666% baggage "true" lost
– Orici
Mar 10 '17 at 18:41
Bags get "lost" primarily because they loose their checked bag tag and the traveler didn't have any additional contact inside the bag. Put an extra tag with name and address inside the bag. Maybe even a list of your flights and pnr. The next biggest is theft. Travel101 - don't anything of value in your suitcase.
– user13044
Mar 11 '17 at 0:32
7
@KateGregory Maybe you took "the reparation figure" as the probability of it happening? I meant the figure as the expected amount of money on reparation.
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:37
1
I don't understand exactly what you're scared of. Is it the possible monetary loss, or inconvenience, or irreplaceable items? You can always buy baggage/travel insurance if you want (although it may be unnecessary, or recourse-insurance, or you may already be covered by your credit card or some other policy). And you can photograph your case's contents while you're packing it in case you need to make a claim. Anyway, there are lots of more likely things that can go wrong on a trip, but lost and unreimbursed baggage is not one of the big ones.
– smci
Mar 11 '17 at 11:36
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In "true" lost baggage, I mean the loss of your baggage that is, in the end, not returned to an owner and going to end up in reparation.
According to the post here, the probability of the baggage being lost is 0.3%. However, this includes cases that the baggage is ultimately returned to the owner, which I assume consists of the most lost baggage occurences.
I would rather like to know how probable it is for you to lose your baggage completely. Is there any research or statistics on this area? Since the expected amount of money on reparation is ridiculously low in my humble opinion, I feel scared of this happening.
luggage statistics lost-luggage
In "true" lost baggage, I mean the loss of your baggage that is, in the end, not returned to an owner and going to end up in reparation.
According to the post here, the probability of the baggage being lost is 0.3%. However, this includes cases that the baggage is ultimately returned to the owner, which I assume consists of the most lost baggage occurences.
I would rather like to know how probable it is for you to lose your baggage completely. Is there any research or statistics on this area? Since the expected amount of money on reparation is ridiculously low in my humble opinion, I feel scared of this happening.
luggage statistics lost-luggage
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edited Mar 12 '17 at 6:09
asked Mar 10 '17 at 15:59
Blaszard
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why are you scared of it happening specifically because the figures are low? That would mean it's less likely to happen...
– Kate Gregory
Mar 10 '17 at 17:39
I think that every country and airline must have a different probability and change in time. I myself have traveled twice to Mexico from Spain with British Airways, with a stop in London, four airplanes for the journey. One time I lost my baggage on the return at home. Well, my bag traveled a diferent route, going through several airports and hands. Finally, after 1 month, I recovered my bag; it was superficially damaged, with some cuts, and some stuff was missing. 25% lost in all trips 85% of things recovered from this total: 1.6666% baggage "true" lost
– Orici
Mar 10 '17 at 18:41
Bags get "lost" primarily because they loose their checked bag tag and the traveler didn't have any additional contact inside the bag. Put an extra tag with name and address inside the bag. Maybe even a list of your flights and pnr. The next biggest is theft. Travel101 - don't anything of value in your suitcase.
– user13044
Mar 11 '17 at 0:32
7
@KateGregory Maybe you took "the reparation figure" as the probability of it happening? I meant the figure as the expected amount of money on reparation.
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:37
1
I don't understand exactly what you're scared of. Is it the possible monetary loss, or inconvenience, or irreplaceable items? You can always buy baggage/travel insurance if you want (although it may be unnecessary, or recourse-insurance, or you may already be covered by your credit card or some other policy). And you can photograph your case's contents while you're packing it in case you need to make a claim. Anyway, there are lots of more likely things that can go wrong on a trip, but lost and unreimbursed baggage is not one of the big ones.
– smci
Mar 11 '17 at 11:36
|
show 12 more comments
7
why are you scared of it happening specifically because the figures are low? That would mean it's less likely to happen...
– Kate Gregory
Mar 10 '17 at 17:39
I think that every country and airline must have a different probability and change in time. I myself have traveled twice to Mexico from Spain with British Airways, with a stop in London, four airplanes for the journey. One time I lost my baggage on the return at home. Well, my bag traveled a diferent route, going through several airports and hands. Finally, after 1 month, I recovered my bag; it was superficially damaged, with some cuts, and some stuff was missing. 25% lost in all trips 85% of things recovered from this total: 1.6666% baggage "true" lost
– Orici
Mar 10 '17 at 18:41
Bags get "lost" primarily because they loose their checked bag tag and the traveler didn't have any additional contact inside the bag. Put an extra tag with name and address inside the bag. Maybe even a list of your flights and pnr. The next biggest is theft. Travel101 - don't anything of value in your suitcase.
– user13044
Mar 11 '17 at 0:32
7
@KateGregory Maybe you took "the reparation figure" as the probability of it happening? I meant the figure as the expected amount of money on reparation.
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:37
1
I don't understand exactly what you're scared of. Is it the possible monetary loss, or inconvenience, or irreplaceable items? You can always buy baggage/travel insurance if you want (although it may be unnecessary, or recourse-insurance, or you may already be covered by your credit card or some other policy). And you can photograph your case's contents while you're packing it in case you need to make a claim. Anyway, there are lots of more likely things that can go wrong on a trip, but lost and unreimbursed baggage is not one of the big ones.
– smci
Mar 11 '17 at 11:36
7
7
why are you scared of it happening specifically because the figures are low? That would mean it's less likely to happen...
– Kate Gregory
Mar 10 '17 at 17:39
why are you scared of it happening specifically because the figures are low? That would mean it's less likely to happen...
– Kate Gregory
Mar 10 '17 at 17:39
I think that every country and airline must have a different probability and change in time. I myself have traveled twice to Mexico from Spain with British Airways, with a stop in London, four airplanes for the journey. One time I lost my baggage on the return at home. Well, my bag traveled a diferent route, going through several airports and hands. Finally, after 1 month, I recovered my bag; it was superficially damaged, with some cuts, and some stuff was missing. 25% lost in all trips 85% of things recovered from this total: 1.6666% baggage "true" lost
– Orici
Mar 10 '17 at 18:41
I think that every country and airline must have a different probability and change in time. I myself have traveled twice to Mexico from Spain with British Airways, with a stop in London, four airplanes for the journey. One time I lost my baggage on the return at home. Well, my bag traveled a diferent route, going through several airports and hands. Finally, after 1 month, I recovered my bag; it was superficially damaged, with some cuts, and some stuff was missing. 25% lost in all trips 85% of things recovered from this total: 1.6666% baggage "true" lost
– Orici
Mar 10 '17 at 18:41
Bags get "lost" primarily because they loose their checked bag tag and the traveler didn't have any additional contact inside the bag. Put an extra tag with name and address inside the bag. Maybe even a list of your flights and pnr. The next biggest is theft. Travel101 - don't anything of value in your suitcase.
– user13044
Mar 11 '17 at 0:32
Bags get "lost" primarily because they loose their checked bag tag and the traveler didn't have any additional contact inside the bag. Put an extra tag with name and address inside the bag. Maybe even a list of your flights and pnr. The next biggest is theft. Travel101 - don't anything of value in your suitcase.
– user13044
Mar 11 '17 at 0:32
7
7
@KateGregory Maybe you took "the reparation figure" as the probability of it happening? I meant the figure as the expected amount of money on reparation.
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:37
@KateGregory Maybe you took "the reparation figure" as the probability of it happening? I meant the figure as the expected amount of money on reparation.
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:37
1
1
I don't understand exactly what you're scared of. Is it the possible monetary loss, or inconvenience, or irreplaceable items? You can always buy baggage/travel insurance if you want (although it may be unnecessary, or recourse-insurance, or you may already be covered by your credit card or some other policy). And you can photograph your case's contents while you're packing it in case you need to make a claim. Anyway, there are lots of more likely things that can go wrong on a trip, but lost and unreimbursed baggage is not one of the big ones.
– smci
Mar 11 '17 at 11:36
I don't understand exactly what you're scared of. Is it the possible monetary loss, or inconvenience, or irreplaceable items? You can always buy baggage/travel insurance if you want (although it may be unnecessary, or recourse-insurance, or you may already be covered by your credit card or some other policy). And you can photograph your case's contents while you're packing it in case you need to make a claim. Anyway, there are lots of more likely things that can go wrong on a trip, but lost and unreimbursed baggage is not one of the big ones.
– smci
Mar 11 '17 at 11:36
|
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From the data available here which is sourced from Air Travel Consumer Report issued by the U.S. Department of Transportation, 0.021% of luggage is never found
The rate of mishandled bags dropped 21% to about seven per 1,000
passengers.The good news about lost luggage is that airlines
worldwide eventually recover 97% of mishandled bags.Of all mishandled
bags, 81% were simply delayed, 16% were damaged or pilfered and 3%
were declared lost or stolen and never found.
0.007*0.03 = 0.00021 = 0.021% of the total......
7
@Megha I think you're an order of magnitude off. 2 bags per 10,000 passengers. Still not many (though, it doesn't take into account bags that show a bit lighter...)
– stannius
Mar 10 '17 at 22:22
1
@stannius - well, there is a reason I made sure there was a disclaimer in my comment... I think I got the hundred thousand when I was looking for whole numbers of missing bags, as decimals usually don't go missing on their own, then decided .1 was near enough to round, and forgot to adjust back down. Thanks for catching it :)
– Megha
Mar 10 '17 at 22:42
4
It's possible that some of the 0.021% includes people accidentally taking the wrong bag or airline employees accidentally checking in phantom bags.
– JonathanReez♦
Mar 10 '17 at 23:34
1
@stannius Your math is right. However 1 per 5,000 is too high probability for me...
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:57
3
So you'd have to fly 3300 times before you'd reach a 50% chance of losing a bag (.99979^x = 0.5). Suffice to say most of us won't be losing bags, thankfully.
– JeopardyTempest
Mar 11 '17 at 9:24
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Also some data here: (and bonus - you may find your lost stuff ;)
Although over 99.5% of domestic airline’s checked bags are picked up
at the baggage carousel, lost luggage is an unfortunate part of
airline travel. The airlines conduct an extensive three-month tracing
process with the remaining .5% of unclaimed bags in an effort to
reunite them with their owners, resulting in an astonishingly small
fraction of a percent of bags that are ultimately orphaned.
https://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/about/
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From the data available here which is sourced from Air Travel Consumer Report issued by the U.S. Department of Transportation, 0.021% of luggage is never found
The rate of mishandled bags dropped 21% to about seven per 1,000
passengers.The good news about lost luggage is that airlines
worldwide eventually recover 97% of mishandled bags.Of all mishandled
bags, 81% were simply delayed, 16% were damaged or pilfered and 3%
were declared lost or stolen and never found.
0.007*0.03 = 0.00021 = 0.021% of the total......
7
@Megha I think you're an order of magnitude off. 2 bags per 10,000 passengers. Still not many (though, it doesn't take into account bags that show a bit lighter...)
– stannius
Mar 10 '17 at 22:22
1
@stannius - well, there is a reason I made sure there was a disclaimer in my comment... I think I got the hundred thousand when I was looking for whole numbers of missing bags, as decimals usually don't go missing on their own, then decided .1 was near enough to round, and forgot to adjust back down. Thanks for catching it :)
– Megha
Mar 10 '17 at 22:42
4
It's possible that some of the 0.021% includes people accidentally taking the wrong bag or airline employees accidentally checking in phantom bags.
– JonathanReez♦
Mar 10 '17 at 23:34
1
@stannius Your math is right. However 1 per 5,000 is too high probability for me...
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:57
3
So you'd have to fly 3300 times before you'd reach a 50% chance of losing a bag (.99979^x = 0.5). Suffice to say most of us won't be losing bags, thankfully.
– JeopardyTempest
Mar 11 '17 at 9:24
|
show 4 more comments
From the data available here which is sourced from Air Travel Consumer Report issued by the U.S. Department of Transportation, 0.021% of luggage is never found
The rate of mishandled bags dropped 21% to about seven per 1,000
passengers.The good news about lost luggage is that airlines
worldwide eventually recover 97% of mishandled bags.Of all mishandled
bags, 81% were simply delayed, 16% were damaged or pilfered and 3%
were declared lost or stolen and never found.
0.007*0.03 = 0.00021 = 0.021% of the total......
7
@Megha I think you're an order of magnitude off. 2 bags per 10,000 passengers. Still not many (though, it doesn't take into account bags that show a bit lighter...)
– stannius
Mar 10 '17 at 22:22
1
@stannius - well, there is a reason I made sure there was a disclaimer in my comment... I think I got the hundred thousand when I was looking for whole numbers of missing bags, as decimals usually don't go missing on their own, then decided .1 was near enough to round, and forgot to adjust back down. Thanks for catching it :)
– Megha
Mar 10 '17 at 22:42
4
It's possible that some of the 0.021% includes people accidentally taking the wrong bag or airline employees accidentally checking in phantom bags.
– JonathanReez♦
Mar 10 '17 at 23:34
1
@stannius Your math is right. However 1 per 5,000 is too high probability for me...
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:57
3
So you'd have to fly 3300 times before you'd reach a 50% chance of losing a bag (.99979^x = 0.5). Suffice to say most of us won't be losing bags, thankfully.
– JeopardyTempest
Mar 11 '17 at 9:24
|
show 4 more comments
From the data available here which is sourced from Air Travel Consumer Report issued by the U.S. Department of Transportation, 0.021% of luggage is never found
The rate of mishandled bags dropped 21% to about seven per 1,000
passengers.The good news about lost luggage is that airlines
worldwide eventually recover 97% of mishandled bags.Of all mishandled
bags, 81% were simply delayed, 16% were damaged or pilfered and 3%
were declared lost or stolen and never found.
0.007*0.03 = 0.00021 = 0.021% of the total......
From the data available here which is sourced from Air Travel Consumer Report issued by the U.S. Department of Transportation, 0.021% of luggage is never found
The rate of mishandled bags dropped 21% to about seven per 1,000
passengers.The good news about lost luggage is that airlines
worldwide eventually recover 97% of mishandled bags.Of all mishandled
bags, 81% were simply delayed, 16% were damaged or pilfered and 3%
were declared lost or stolen and never found.
0.007*0.03 = 0.00021 = 0.021% of the total......
edited Feb 23 '18 at 0:23
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@Megha I think you're an order of magnitude off. 2 bags per 10,000 passengers. Still not many (though, it doesn't take into account bags that show a bit lighter...)
– stannius
Mar 10 '17 at 22:22
1
@stannius - well, there is a reason I made sure there was a disclaimer in my comment... I think I got the hundred thousand when I was looking for whole numbers of missing bags, as decimals usually don't go missing on their own, then decided .1 was near enough to round, and forgot to adjust back down. Thanks for catching it :)
– Megha
Mar 10 '17 at 22:42
4
It's possible that some of the 0.021% includes people accidentally taking the wrong bag or airline employees accidentally checking in phantom bags.
– JonathanReez♦
Mar 10 '17 at 23:34
1
@stannius Your math is right. However 1 per 5,000 is too high probability for me...
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:57
3
So you'd have to fly 3300 times before you'd reach a 50% chance of losing a bag (.99979^x = 0.5). Suffice to say most of us won't be losing bags, thankfully.
– JeopardyTempest
Mar 11 '17 at 9:24
|
show 4 more comments
7
@Megha I think you're an order of magnitude off. 2 bags per 10,000 passengers. Still not many (though, it doesn't take into account bags that show a bit lighter...)
– stannius
Mar 10 '17 at 22:22
1
@stannius - well, there is a reason I made sure there was a disclaimer in my comment... I think I got the hundred thousand when I was looking for whole numbers of missing bags, as decimals usually don't go missing on their own, then decided .1 was near enough to round, and forgot to adjust back down. Thanks for catching it :)
– Megha
Mar 10 '17 at 22:42
4
It's possible that some of the 0.021% includes people accidentally taking the wrong bag or airline employees accidentally checking in phantom bags.
– JonathanReez♦
Mar 10 '17 at 23:34
1
@stannius Your math is right. However 1 per 5,000 is too high probability for me...
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:57
3
So you'd have to fly 3300 times before you'd reach a 50% chance of losing a bag (.99979^x = 0.5). Suffice to say most of us won't be losing bags, thankfully.
– JeopardyTempest
Mar 11 '17 at 9:24
7
7
@Megha I think you're an order of magnitude off. 2 bags per 10,000 passengers. Still not many (though, it doesn't take into account bags that show a bit lighter...)
– stannius
Mar 10 '17 at 22:22
@Megha I think you're an order of magnitude off. 2 bags per 10,000 passengers. Still not many (though, it doesn't take into account bags that show a bit lighter...)
– stannius
Mar 10 '17 at 22:22
1
1
@stannius - well, there is a reason I made sure there was a disclaimer in my comment... I think I got the hundred thousand when I was looking for whole numbers of missing bags, as decimals usually don't go missing on their own, then decided .1 was near enough to round, and forgot to adjust back down. Thanks for catching it :)
– Megha
Mar 10 '17 at 22:42
@stannius - well, there is a reason I made sure there was a disclaimer in my comment... I think I got the hundred thousand when I was looking for whole numbers of missing bags, as decimals usually don't go missing on their own, then decided .1 was near enough to round, and forgot to adjust back down. Thanks for catching it :)
– Megha
Mar 10 '17 at 22:42
4
4
It's possible that some of the 0.021% includes people accidentally taking the wrong bag or airline employees accidentally checking in phantom bags.
– JonathanReez♦
Mar 10 '17 at 23:34
It's possible that some of the 0.021% includes people accidentally taking the wrong bag or airline employees accidentally checking in phantom bags.
– JonathanReez♦
Mar 10 '17 at 23:34
1
1
@stannius Your math is right. However 1 per 5,000 is too high probability for me...
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:57
@stannius Your math is right. However 1 per 5,000 is too high probability for me...
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:57
3
3
So you'd have to fly 3300 times before you'd reach a 50% chance of losing a bag (.99979^x = 0.5). Suffice to say most of us won't be losing bags, thankfully.
– JeopardyTempest
Mar 11 '17 at 9:24
So you'd have to fly 3300 times before you'd reach a 50% chance of losing a bag (.99979^x = 0.5). Suffice to say most of us won't be losing bags, thankfully.
– JeopardyTempest
Mar 11 '17 at 9:24
|
show 4 more comments
Also some data here: (and bonus - you may find your lost stuff ;)
Although over 99.5% of domestic airline’s checked bags are picked up
at the baggage carousel, lost luggage is an unfortunate part of
airline travel. The airlines conduct an extensive three-month tracing
process with the remaining .5% of unclaimed bags in an effort to
reunite them with their owners, resulting in an astonishingly small
fraction of a percent of bags that are ultimately orphaned.
https://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/about/
add a comment |
Also some data here: (and bonus - you may find your lost stuff ;)
Although over 99.5% of domestic airline’s checked bags are picked up
at the baggage carousel, lost luggage is an unfortunate part of
airline travel. The airlines conduct an extensive three-month tracing
process with the remaining .5% of unclaimed bags in an effort to
reunite them with their owners, resulting in an astonishingly small
fraction of a percent of bags that are ultimately orphaned.
https://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/about/
add a comment |
Also some data here: (and bonus - you may find your lost stuff ;)
Although over 99.5% of domestic airline’s checked bags are picked up
at the baggage carousel, lost luggage is an unfortunate part of
airline travel. The airlines conduct an extensive three-month tracing
process with the remaining .5% of unclaimed bags in an effort to
reunite them with their owners, resulting in an astonishingly small
fraction of a percent of bags that are ultimately orphaned.
https://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/about/
Also some data here: (and bonus - you may find your lost stuff ;)
Although over 99.5% of domestic airline’s checked bags are picked up
at the baggage carousel, lost luggage is an unfortunate part of
airline travel. The airlines conduct an extensive three-month tracing
process with the remaining .5% of unclaimed bags in an effort to
reunite them with their owners, resulting in an astonishingly small
fraction of a percent of bags that are ultimately orphaned.
https://www.unclaimedbaggage.com/about/
answered Mar 10 '17 at 18:50
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why are you scared of it happening specifically because the figures are low? That would mean it's less likely to happen...
– Kate Gregory
Mar 10 '17 at 17:39
I think that every country and airline must have a different probability and change in time. I myself have traveled twice to Mexico from Spain with British Airways, with a stop in London, four airplanes for the journey. One time I lost my baggage on the return at home. Well, my bag traveled a diferent route, going through several airports and hands. Finally, after 1 month, I recovered my bag; it was superficially damaged, with some cuts, and some stuff was missing. 25% lost in all trips 85% of things recovered from this total: 1.6666% baggage "true" lost
– Orici
Mar 10 '17 at 18:41
Bags get "lost" primarily because they loose their checked bag tag and the traveler didn't have any additional contact inside the bag. Put an extra tag with name and address inside the bag. Maybe even a list of your flights and pnr. The next biggest is theft. Travel101 - don't anything of value in your suitcase.
– user13044
Mar 11 '17 at 0:32
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@KateGregory Maybe you took "the reparation figure" as the probability of it happening? I meant the figure as the expected amount of money on reparation.
– Blaszard
Mar 11 '17 at 6:37
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I don't understand exactly what you're scared of. Is it the possible monetary loss, or inconvenience, or irreplaceable items? You can always buy baggage/travel insurance if you want (although it may be unnecessary, or recourse-insurance, or you may already be covered by your credit card or some other policy). And you can photograph your case's contents while you're packing it in case you need to make a claim. Anyway, there are lots of more likely things that can go wrong on a trip, but lost and unreimbursed baggage is not one of the big ones.
– smci
Mar 11 '17 at 11:36