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I am planning to travel to the UK with my mother. Her visa is valid from 15th June and my visa's validity starts on July 1st.



I will be leaving from Chennai on June 30th, with a transit in Mumbai, but the arrival in the UK is late on the 30th of June. Will I be permitted to travel or will I be prevented from boarding because of the July 1 validity?



Do I need to apply for a vignette transfer? I'm confused about it, as some sites say it is only for those with a new passport. If I do need a vignette transfer, what is the procedure and what documents are required?










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    I've done a bit of an edit, to make it a bit clearer. If I've misunderstood, I apologize, and you can roll back the changes. Am I correct that your actual arrival in the UK would be on the 30th, not the 1st of July?
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  • You are likely to be denied boarding. I don't understand why you're asking about a vignette transfer. Are you wondering whether it would allow you to adjust the start date of your visa? It will not, so if that's why you're asking then the vignette transfer does not apply to you. See gov.uk/government/publications/….
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I am planning to travel to the UK with my mother. Her visa is valid from 15th June and my visa's validity starts on July 1st.



I will be leaving from Chennai on June 30th, with a transit in Mumbai, but the arrival in the UK is late on the 30th of June. Will I be permitted to travel or will I be prevented from boarding because of the July 1 validity?



Do I need to apply for a vignette transfer? I'm confused about it, as some sites say it is only for those with a new passport. If I do need a vignette transfer, what is the procedure and what documents are required?










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    I've done a bit of an edit, to make it a bit clearer. If I've misunderstood, I apologize, and you can roll back the changes. Am I correct that your actual arrival in the UK would be on the 30th, not the 1st of July?
    – Giorgio
    May 16 '17 at 0:33










  • You are likely to be denied boarding. I don't understand why you're asking about a vignette transfer. Are you wondering whether it would allow you to adjust the start date of your visa? It will not, so if that's why you're asking then the vignette transfer does not apply to you. See gov.uk/government/publications/….
    – phoog
    May 16 '17 at 1:48













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I am planning to travel to the UK with my mother. Her visa is valid from 15th June and my visa's validity starts on July 1st.



I will be leaving from Chennai on June 30th, with a transit in Mumbai, but the arrival in the UK is late on the 30th of June. Will I be permitted to travel or will I be prevented from boarding because of the July 1 validity?



Do I need to apply for a vignette transfer? I'm confused about it, as some sites say it is only for those with a new passport. If I do need a vignette transfer, what is the procedure and what documents are required?










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I am planning to travel to the UK with my mother. Her visa is valid from 15th June and my visa's validity starts on July 1st.



I will be leaving from Chennai on June 30th, with a transit in Mumbai, but the arrival in the UK is late on the 30th of June. Will I be permitted to travel or will I be prevented from boarding because of the July 1 validity?



Do I need to apply for a vignette transfer? I'm confused about it, as some sites say it is only for those with a new passport. If I do need a vignette transfer, what is the procedure and what documents are required?







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    I've done a bit of an edit, to make it a bit clearer. If I've misunderstood, I apologize, and you can roll back the changes. Am I correct that your actual arrival in the UK would be on the 30th, not the 1st of July?
    – Giorgio
    May 16 '17 at 0:33










  • You are likely to be denied boarding. I don't understand why you're asking about a vignette transfer. Are you wondering whether it would allow you to adjust the start date of your visa? It will not, so if that's why you're asking then the vignette transfer does not apply to you. See gov.uk/government/publications/….
    – phoog
    May 16 '17 at 1:48













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    I've done a bit of an edit, to make it a bit clearer. If I've misunderstood, I apologize, and you can roll back the changes. Am I correct that your actual arrival in the UK would be on the 30th, not the 1st of July?
    – Giorgio
    May 16 '17 at 0:33










  • You are likely to be denied boarding. I don't understand why you're asking about a vignette transfer. Are you wondering whether it would allow you to adjust the start date of your visa? It will not, so if that's why you're asking then the vignette transfer does not apply to you. See gov.uk/government/publications/….
    – phoog
    May 16 '17 at 1:48








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I've done a bit of an edit, to make it a bit clearer. If I've misunderstood, I apologize, and you can roll back the changes. Am I correct that your actual arrival in the UK would be on the 30th, not the 1st of July?
– Giorgio
May 16 '17 at 0:33




I've done a bit of an edit, to make it a bit clearer. If I've misunderstood, I apologize, and you can roll back the changes. Am I correct that your actual arrival in the UK would be on the 30th, not the 1st of July?
– Giorgio
May 16 '17 at 0:33












You are likely to be denied boarding. I don't understand why you're asking about a vignette transfer. Are you wondering whether it would allow you to adjust the start date of your visa? It will not, so if that's why you're asking then the vignette transfer does not apply to you. See gov.uk/government/publications/….
– phoog
May 16 '17 at 1:48





You are likely to be denied boarding. I don't understand why you're asking about a vignette transfer. Are you wondering whether it would allow you to adjust the start date of your visa? It will not, so if that's why you're asking then the vignette transfer does not apply to you. See gov.uk/government/publications/….
– phoog
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You want to arrive in the UK before your entry clearance starts. Paragraph 30C of the rules sums up what can happen...




30C. An Immigration Officer may cancel an entry clearance which is
capable of having effect as leave to enter if the holder arrives in
the United Kingdom before the day on which the entry clearance becomes
effective or if the holder seeks to enter the United Kingdom for a
purpose other than the purpose specified in the entry clearance.




So the IO has the option, but not the obligation, to have you removed from port (and to fine the carrier). The outcome will depend upon your personal impact and articulation skills plus you will need to set out a tenable rationale of why it's reasonable for you to be in that situation. If the IO buys in to your argument, he can use Paragraph 31A of the rules to make a variation...




31A. Where a person has arrived in the United Kingdom with leave to
enter or remain in the United Kingdom which is in force but was given
to him before his arrival, he may apply, on arrival at the port of
entry in the United Kingdom, for variation of that leave. An
Immigration Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State may
vary the leave at the port of entry but is not obliged to consider an
application for variation made at the port of entry. If an Immigration
Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State has declined to
consider an application for variation of leave at a port of entry but
the leave has not been cancelled under paragraph 2A(8) of Schedule 2
to the Immigration Act 1971, the person seeking variation should apply
to the Home Office under paragraph 32.




If, on the other hand, the IO concludes that you are abusing the system by attempting to get more leave that you were issued, he may let you in and then make an annotation on your computer file. The annotation would be reviewed the next time you applied for entry clearance.



The last outcome worth considering is where the carrier refuses to board you.




A vignette transfer is where someone's passport expires but there's a visa in it that is still good, so the person may opt to have the visa transferred from his old passport to his new passport. It has nothing to do with your case and they don't transfer vignettes for visitor visas of 6 months or less anyway.






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    You want to arrive in the UK before your entry clearance starts. Paragraph 30C of the rules sums up what can happen...




    30C. An Immigration Officer may cancel an entry clearance which is
    capable of having effect as leave to enter if the holder arrives in
    the United Kingdom before the day on which the entry clearance becomes
    effective or if the holder seeks to enter the United Kingdom for a
    purpose other than the purpose specified in the entry clearance.




    So the IO has the option, but not the obligation, to have you removed from port (and to fine the carrier). The outcome will depend upon your personal impact and articulation skills plus you will need to set out a tenable rationale of why it's reasonable for you to be in that situation. If the IO buys in to your argument, he can use Paragraph 31A of the rules to make a variation...




    31A. Where a person has arrived in the United Kingdom with leave to
    enter or remain in the United Kingdom which is in force but was given
    to him before his arrival, he may apply, on arrival at the port of
    entry in the United Kingdom, for variation of that leave. An
    Immigration Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State may
    vary the leave at the port of entry but is not obliged to consider an
    application for variation made at the port of entry. If an Immigration
    Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State has declined to
    consider an application for variation of leave at a port of entry but
    the leave has not been cancelled under paragraph 2A(8) of Schedule 2
    to the Immigration Act 1971, the person seeking variation should apply
    to the Home Office under paragraph 32.




    If, on the other hand, the IO concludes that you are abusing the system by attempting to get more leave that you were issued, he may let you in and then make an annotation on your computer file. The annotation would be reviewed the next time you applied for entry clearance.



    The last outcome worth considering is where the carrier refuses to board you.




    A vignette transfer is where someone's passport expires but there's a visa in it that is still good, so the person may opt to have the visa transferred from his old passport to his new passport. It has nothing to do with your case and they don't transfer vignettes for visitor visas of 6 months or less anyway.






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      You want to arrive in the UK before your entry clearance starts. Paragraph 30C of the rules sums up what can happen...




      30C. An Immigration Officer may cancel an entry clearance which is
      capable of having effect as leave to enter if the holder arrives in
      the United Kingdom before the day on which the entry clearance becomes
      effective or if the holder seeks to enter the United Kingdom for a
      purpose other than the purpose specified in the entry clearance.




      So the IO has the option, but not the obligation, to have you removed from port (and to fine the carrier). The outcome will depend upon your personal impact and articulation skills plus you will need to set out a tenable rationale of why it's reasonable for you to be in that situation. If the IO buys in to your argument, he can use Paragraph 31A of the rules to make a variation...




      31A. Where a person has arrived in the United Kingdom with leave to
      enter or remain in the United Kingdom which is in force but was given
      to him before his arrival, he may apply, on arrival at the port of
      entry in the United Kingdom, for variation of that leave. An
      Immigration Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State may
      vary the leave at the port of entry but is not obliged to consider an
      application for variation made at the port of entry. If an Immigration
      Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State has declined to
      consider an application for variation of leave at a port of entry but
      the leave has not been cancelled under paragraph 2A(8) of Schedule 2
      to the Immigration Act 1971, the person seeking variation should apply
      to the Home Office under paragraph 32.




      If, on the other hand, the IO concludes that you are abusing the system by attempting to get more leave that you were issued, he may let you in and then make an annotation on your computer file. The annotation would be reviewed the next time you applied for entry clearance.



      The last outcome worth considering is where the carrier refuses to board you.




      A vignette transfer is where someone's passport expires but there's a visa in it that is still good, so the person may opt to have the visa transferred from his old passport to his new passport. It has nothing to do with your case and they don't transfer vignettes for visitor visas of 6 months or less anyway.






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        You want to arrive in the UK before your entry clearance starts. Paragraph 30C of the rules sums up what can happen...




        30C. An Immigration Officer may cancel an entry clearance which is
        capable of having effect as leave to enter if the holder arrives in
        the United Kingdom before the day on which the entry clearance becomes
        effective or if the holder seeks to enter the United Kingdom for a
        purpose other than the purpose specified in the entry clearance.




        So the IO has the option, but not the obligation, to have you removed from port (and to fine the carrier). The outcome will depend upon your personal impact and articulation skills plus you will need to set out a tenable rationale of why it's reasonable for you to be in that situation. If the IO buys in to your argument, he can use Paragraph 31A of the rules to make a variation...




        31A. Where a person has arrived in the United Kingdom with leave to
        enter or remain in the United Kingdom which is in force but was given
        to him before his arrival, he may apply, on arrival at the port of
        entry in the United Kingdom, for variation of that leave. An
        Immigration Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State may
        vary the leave at the port of entry but is not obliged to consider an
        application for variation made at the port of entry. If an Immigration
        Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State has declined to
        consider an application for variation of leave at a port of entry but
        the leave has not been cancelled under paragraph 2A(8) of Schedule 2
        to the Immigration Act 1971, the person seeking variation should apply
        to the Home Office under paragraph 32.




        If, on the other hand, the IO concludes that you are abusing the system by attempting to get more leave that you were issued, he may let you in and then make an annotation on your computer file. The annotation would be reviewed the next time you applied for entry clearance.



        The last outcome worth considering is where the carrier refuses to board you.




        A vignette transfer is where someone's passport expires but there's a visa in it that is still good, so the person may opt to have the visa transferred from his old passport to his new passport. It has nothing to do with your case and they don't transfer vignettes for visitor visas of 6 months or less anyway.






        share|improve this answer












        You want to arrive in the UK before your entry clearance starts. Paragraph 30C of the rules sums up what can happen...




        30C. An Immigration Officer may cancel an entry clearance which is
        capable of having effect as leave to enter if the holder arrives in
        the United Kingdom before the day on which the entry clearance becomes
        effective or if the holder seeks to enter the United Kingdom for a
        purpose other than the purpose specified in the entry clearance.




        So the IO has the option, but not the obligation, to have you removed from port (and to fine the carrier). The outcome will depend upon your personal impact and articulation skills plus you will need to set out a tenable rationale of why it's reasonable for you to be in that situation. If the IO buys in to your argument, he can use Paragraph 31A of the rules to make a variation...




        31A. Where a person has arrived in the United Kingdom with leave to
        enter or remain in the United Kingdom which is in force but was given
        to him before his arrival, he may apply, on arrival at the port of
        entry in the United Kingdom, for variation of that leave. An
        Immigration Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State may
        vary the leave at the port of entry but is not obliged to consider an
        application for variation made at the port of entry. If an Immigration
        Officer acting on behalf of the Secretary of State has declined to
        consider an application for variation of leave at a port of entry but
        the leave has not been cancelled under paragraph 2A(8) of Schedule 2
        to the Immigration Act 1971, the person seeking variation should apply
        to the Home Office under paragraph 32.




        If, on the other hand, the IO concludes that you are abusing the system by attempting to get more leave that you were issued, he may let you in and then make an annotation on your computer file. The annotation would be reviewed the next time you applied for entry clearance.



        The last outcome worth considering is where the carrier refuses to board you.




        A vignette transfer is where someone's passport expires but there's a visa in it that is still good, so the person may opt to have the visa transferred from his old passport to his new passport. It has nothing to do with your case and they don't transfer vignettes for visitor visas of 6 months or less anyway.







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