Expired destination (U.S.) passport; unexpired dwelling (Israel) passport
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Help! I just realized my kids' U.S. passports are expired. Their Israeli passports are not. (They're dual citizens, minors, living in Israel.) They (and I) are scheduled to travel to the States tomorrow. What can/should I do? (Note that Israel is a non-ESTA country.)
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Help! I just realized my kids' U.S. passports are expired. Their Israeli passports are not. (They're dual citizens, minors, living in Israel.) They (and I) are scheduled to travel to the States tomorrow. What can/should I do? (Note that Israel is a non-ESTA country.)
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Possible duplicate of Can an American Citizen Transit in USA with Expired US Passport
– ugoren
Aug 1 '17 at 22:18
Contact the consulate immediately and ask how to get emergency travel documents.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 1 '17 at 22:30
Updated my answer
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:38
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up vote
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Help! I just realized my kids' U.S. passports are expired. Their Israeli passports are not. (They're dual citizens, minors, living in Israel.) They (and I) are scheduled to travel to the States tomorrow. What can/should I do? (Note that Israel is a non-ESTA country.)
usa passports paperwork dual-nationality
asked Aug 1 '17 at 22:13
at my wits' end
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Help! I just realized my kids' U.S. passports are expired. Their Israeli passports are not. (They're dual citizens, minors, living in Israel.) They (and I) are scheduled to travel to the States tomorrow. What can/should I do? (Note that Israel is a non-ESTA country.)
usa passports paperwork dual-nationality
usa passports paperwork dual-nationality
asked Aug 1 '17 at 22:13
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asked Aug 1 '17 at 22:13
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edited Aug 1 '17 at 22:34
asked Aug 1 '17 at 22:13
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asked Aug 1 '17 at 22:13
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asked Aug 1 '17 at 22:13
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Possible duplicate of Can an American Citizen Transit in USA with Expired US Passport
– ugoren
Aug 1 '17 at 22:18
Contact the consulate immediately and ask how to get emergency travel documents.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 1 '17 at 22:30
Updated my answer
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:38
add a comment |
Possible duplicate of Can an American Citizen Transit in USA with Expired US Passport
– ugoren
Aug 1 '17 at 22:18
Contact the consulate immediately and ask how to get emergency travel documents.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 1 '17 at 22:30
Updated my answer
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:38
Possible duplicate of Can an American Citizen Transit in USA with Expired US Passport
– ugoren
Aug 1 '17 at 22:18
Possible duplicate of Can an American Citizen Transit in USA with Expired US Passport
– ugoren
Aug 1 '17 at 22:18
Contact the consulate immediately and ask how to get emergency travel documents.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 1 '17 at 22:30
Contact the consulate immediately and ask how to get emergency travel documents.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 1 '17 at 22:30
Updated my answer
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:38
Updated my answer
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:38
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Unless you can get a same-day passport or transportation letter from the US embassy tomorrow, the simple fact is you're not flying tomorrow.
Timatic, the database used by Airlines, states:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of USA must be valid on arrival.
And of course the Israeli passports are not an option as your kids lack visas.
While US citizens cannot be refused to entry to the US, airlines still follow Timatic, so again, you'll have to reschedule your trip (do note that you can get the airport taxes for the unused flight back).
Note: To save the costs of a same-day passport/transportation letter, you can fly to Canada and cross by land. For Canada, Timatic states:
Passport Exemptions: Nationals of the USA with a recommended proof of citizenship such as a:
- US birth certificate; or
- US certificate of citizenship; or
- US certificate of naturalization.
So that is an option too, and possibly cheaper
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Coke
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You are required to leave Israel on your Israeli passports (as I am sure you know). And if you can get to the US border, as citizens your children must be allowed in. However, there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa. Given that the embassy is unlikely to be able to help you on such short notice, I think your best chance is if the children were born in the USA, which would be in the passport. That might be enough to persuade an airline clerk that they are citizens. Similarly, if the children were born in Israel, you could try bringing the Consular Report of Birth Abroad, and seeing if that will persuade the airlines.
Good luck.
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Andrew Lazarus
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"there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa". The simple fact is they're not getting onboard on expired passports. US citizens are, by law, supposed to have valid passports, and this reflects the info check-in Clerks will see
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:20
On the other hand, a CRBA is proof of citizenship. Frankly, I'd guess this is up to how the supervisor feels.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 22:24
1
But not one officially accepted for entry by air; thus, not one based on which check-in staff is supposed to board a passenger
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:33
In Israel, sometimes a conflict between the rule and ta'aseh li tova [do me a good deed] is resolved in favor of the latter... which is what this OP will need.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 23:18
1
Haha, I highly doubt they'll do "a good deed" that they think could cost them between USD 3500 and 4300 per person
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 23:23
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2 Answers
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active
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
6
down vote
Unless you can get a same-day passport or transportation letter from the US embassy tomorrow, the simple fact is you're not flying tomorrow.
Timatic, the database used by Airlines, states:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of USA must be valid on arrival.
And of course the Israeli passports are not an option as your kids lack visas.
While US citizens cannot be refused to entry to the US, airlines still follow Timatic, so again, you'll have to reschedule your trip (do note that you can get the airport taxes for the unused flight back).
Note: To save the costs of a same-day passport/transportation letter, you can fly to Canada and cross by land. For Canada, Timatic states:
Passport Exemptions: Nationals of the USA with a recommended proof of citizenship such as a:
- US birth certificate; or
- US certificate of citizenship; or
- US certificate of naturalization.
So that is an option too, and possibly cheaper
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Coke
50.6k990224
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
Unless you can get a same-day passport or transportation letter from the US embassy tomorrow, the simple fact is you're not flying tomorrow.
Timatic, the database used by Airlines, states:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of USA must be valid on arrival.
And of course the Israeli passports are not an option as your kids lack visas.
While US citizens cannot be refused to entry to the US, airlines still follow Timatic, so again, you'll have to reschedule your trip (do note that you can get the airport taxes for the unused flight back).
Note: To save the costs of a same-day passport/transportation letter, you can fly to Canada and cross by land. For Canada, Timatic states:
Passport Exemptions: Nationals of the USA with a recommended proof of citizenship such as a:
- US birth certificate; or
- US certificate of citizenship; or
- US certificate of naturalization.
So that is an option too, and possibly cheaper
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Coke
50.6k990224
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
Unless you can get a same-day passport or transportation letter from the US embassy tomorrow, the simple fact is you're not flying tomorrow.
Timatic, the database used by Airlines, states:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of USA must be valid on arrival.
And of course the Israeli passports are not an option as your kids lack visas.
While US citizens cannot be refused to entry to the US, airlines still follow Timatic, so again, you'll have to reschedule your trip (do note that you can get the airport taxes for the unused flight back).
Note: To save the costs of a same-day passport/transportation letter, you can fly to Canada and cross by land. For Canada, Timatic states:
Passport Exemptions: Nationals of the USA with a recommended proof of citizenship such as a:
- US birth certificate; or
- US certificate of citizenship; or
- US certificate of naturalization.
So that is an option too, and possibly cheaper
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Coke
50.6k990224
Unless you can get a same-day passport or transportation letter from the US embassy tomorrow, the simple fact is you're not flying tomorrow.
Timatic, the database used by Airlines, states:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of USA must be valid on arrival.
And of course the Israeli passports are not an option as your kids lack visas.
While US citizens cannot be refused to entry to the US, airlines still follow Timatic, so again, you'll have to reschedule your trip (do note that you can get the airport taxes for the unused flight back).
Note: To save the costs of a same-day passport/transportation letter, you can fly to Canada and cross by land. For Canada, Timatic states:
Passport Exemptions: Nationals of the USA with a recommended proof of citizenship such as a:
- US birth certificate; or
- US certificate of citizenship; or
- US certificate of naturalization.
So that is an option too, and possibly cheaper
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Coke
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edited Aug 1 '17 at 22:36
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Coke
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answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Coke
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answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Coke
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1
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You are required to leave Israel on your Israeli passports (as I am sure you know). And if you can get to the US border, as citizens your children must be allowed in. However, there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa. Given that the embassy is unlikely to be able to help you on such short notice, I think your best chance is if the children were born in the USA, which would be in the passport. That might be enough to persuade an airline clerk that they are citizens. Similarly, if the children were born in Israel, you could try bringing the Consular Report of Birth Abroad, and seeing if that will persuade the airlines.
Good luck.
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Andrew Lazarus
12k22252
1
"there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa". The simple fact is they're not getting onboard on expired passports. US citizens are, by law, supposed to have valid passports, and this reflects the info check-in Clerks will see
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:20
On the other hand, a CRBA is proof of citizenship. Frankly, I'd guess this is up to how the supervisor feels.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 22:24
1
But not one officially accepted for entry by air; thus, not one based on which check-in staff is supposed to board a passenger
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:33
In Israel, sometimes a conflict between the rule and ta'aseh li tova [do me a good deed] is resolved in favor of the latter... which is what this OP will need.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 23:18
1
Haha, I highly doubt they'll do "a good deed" that they think could cost them between USD 3500 and 4300 per person
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 23:23
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
You are required to leave Israel on your Israeli passports (as I am sure you know). And if you can get to the US border, as citizens your children must be allowed in. However, there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa. Given that the embassy is unlikely to be able to help you on such short notice, I think your best chance is if the children were born in the USA, which would be in the passport. That might be enough to persuade an airline clerk that they are citizens. Similarly, if the children were born in Israel, you could try bringing the Consular Report of Birth Abroad, and seeing if that will persuade the airlines.
Good luck.
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Andrew Lazarus
12k22252
1
"there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa". The simple fact is they're not getting onboard on expired passports. US citizens are, by law, supposed to have valid passports, and this reflects the info check-in Clerks will see
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:20
On the other hand, a CRBA is proof of citizenship. Frankly, I'd guess this is up to how the supervisor feels.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 22:24
1
But not one officially accepted for entry by air; thus, not one based on which check-in staff is supposed to board a passenger
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:33
In Israel, sometimes a conflict between the rule and ta'aseh li tova [do me a good deed] is resolved in favor of the latter... which is what this OP will need.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 23:18
1
Haha, I highly doubt they'll do "a good deed" that they think could cost them between USD 3500 and 4300 per person
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 23:23
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
You are required to leave Israel on your Israeli passports (as I am sure you know). And if you can get to the US border, as citizens your children must be allowed in. However, there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa. Given that the embassy is unlikely to be able to help you on such short notice, I think your best chance is if the children were born in the USA, which would be in the passport. That might be enough to persuade an airline clerk that they are citizens. Similarly, if the children were born in Israel, you could try bringing the Consular Report of Birth Abroad, and seeing if that will persuade the airlines.
Good luck.
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Andrew Lazarus
12k22252
You are required to leave Israel on your Israeli passports (as I am sure you know). And if you can get to the US border, as citizens your children must be allowed in. However, there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa. Given that the embassy is unlikely to be able to help you on such short notice, I think your best chance is if the children were born in the USA, which would be in the passport. That might be enough to persuade an airline clerk that they are citizens. Similarly, if the children were born in Israel, you could try bringing the Consular Report of Birth Abroad, and seeing if that will persuade the airlines.
Good luck.
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Andrew Lazarus
12k22252
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Andrew Lazarus
12k22252
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Andrew Lazarus
12k22252
answered Aug 1 '17 at 22:19
Andrew Lazarus
12k22252
12k22252
1
"there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa". The simple fact is they're not getting onboard on expired passports. US citizens are, by law, supposed to have valid passports, and this reflects the info check-in Clerks will see
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:20
On the other hand, a CRBA is proof of citizenship. Frankly, I'd guess this is up to how the supervisor feels.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 22:24
1
But not one officially accepted for entry by air; thus, not one based on which check-in staff is supposed to board a passenger
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:33
In Israel, sometimes a conflict between the rule and ta'aseh li tova [do me a good deed] is resolved in favor of the latter... which is what this OP will need.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 23:18
1
Haha, I highly doubt they'll do "a good deed" that they think could cost them between USD 3500 and 4300 per person
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 23:23
add a comment |
1
"there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa". The simple fact is they're not getting onboard on expired passports. US citizens are, by law, supposed to have valid passports, and this reflects the info check-in Clerks will see
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:20
On the other hand, a CRBA is proof of citizenship. Frankly, I'd guess this is up to how the supervisor feels.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 22:24
1
But not one officially accepted for entry by air; thus, not one based on which check-in staff is supposed to board a passenger
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:33
In Israel, sometimes a conflict between the rule and ta'aseh li tova [do me a good deed] is resolved in favor of the latter... which is what this OP will need.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 23:18
1
Haha, I highly doubt they'll do "a good deed" that they think could cost them between USD 3500 and 4300 per person
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 23:23
1
1
"there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa". The simple fact is they're not getting onboard on expired passports. US citizens are, by law, supposed to have valid passports, and this reflects the info check-in Clerks will see
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:20
"there may be an issue with boarding the flight without a visa". The simple fact is they're not getting onboard on expired passports. US citizens are, by law, supposed to have valid passports, and this reflects the info check-in Clerks will see
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:20
On the other hand, a CRBA is proof of citizenship. Frankly, I'd guess this is up to how the supervisor feels.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 22:24
On the other hand, a CRBA is proof of citizenship. Frankly, I'd guess this is up to how the supervisor feels.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 22:24
1
1
But not one officially accepted for entry by air; thus, not one based on which check-in staff is supposed to board a passenger
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:33
But not one officially accepted for entry by air; thus, not one based on which check-in staff is supposed to board a passenger
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:33
In Israel, sometimes a conflict between the rule and ta'aseh li tova [do me a good deed] is resolved in favor of the latter... which is what this OP will need.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 23:18
In Israel, sometimes a conflict between the rule and ta'aseh li tova [do me a good deed] is resolved in favor of the latter... which is what this OP will need.
– Andrew Lazarus
Aug 1 '17 at 23:18
1
1
Haha, I highly doubt they'll do "a good deed" that they think could cost them between USD 3500 and 4300 per person
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 23:23
Haha, I highly doubt they'll do "a good deed" that they think could cost them between USD 3500 and 4300 per person
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 23:23
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Possible duplicate of Can an American Citizen Transit in USA with Expired US Passport
– ugoren
Aug 1 '17 at 22:18
Contact the consulate immediately and ask how to get emergency travel documents.
– Zach Lipton
Aug 1 '17 at 22:30
Updated my answer
– Coke
Aug 1 '17 at 22:38