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I'm an Ecuadorian citizen but I have been in the UK as a social volunteer for 8 months and I have a valid UK visa until the 30 of august of 2016 and a schengen visa valid until the 24 of June of 2016. I want to go to Lisbon from July 7 to 9, but this would be after my current Schengen visa expires.



Could I apply for a Schengen visa through Portugal after June 24, when my Schengen visa expires, or could I apply for it now so I could have a valid Schengen visa for that trip?



I have read that is a requirement to have a valid passport for at least 90 days (which I do) but I have heard that I would need a valid UK visa for at least 90 days after the return from Portugal.










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  • I am in the same situation now and can please update if you were succeed with your Visa application. I know this is quite old thread but I could not find any reliable source of information supporting this 3 months validity of BRP but in forums it is been said. Anyone with a first hand experience?

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I'm an Ecuadorian citizen but I have been in the UK as a social volunteer for 8 months and I have a valid UK visa until the 30 of august of 2016 and a schengen visa valid until the 24 of June of 2016. I want to go to Lisbon from July 7 to 9, but this would be after my current Schengen visa expires.



Could I apply for a Schengen visa through Portugal after June 24, when my Schengen visa expires, or could I apply for it now so I could have a valid Schengen visa for that trip?



I have read that is a requirement to have a valid passport for at least 90 days (which I do) but I have heard that I would need a valid UK visa for at least 90 days after the return from Portugal.










share|improve this question



















  • 3





    Be skeptical of things you have "heard" but did not come from an official source. They are sometimes wrong.

    – Michael Hampton
    Apr 19 '16 at 0:25











  • I am in the same situation now and can please update if you were succeed with your Visa application. I know this is quite old thread but I could not find any reliable source of information supporting this 3 months validity of BRP but in forums it is been said. Anyone with a first hand experience?

    – Pankajan
    Jul 16 '18 at 13:27













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I'm an Ecuadorian citizen but I have been in the UK as a social volunteer for 8 months and I have a valid UK visa until the 30 of august of 2016 and a schengen visa valid until the 24 of June of 2016. I want to go to Lisbon from July 7 to 9, but this would be after my current Schengen visa expires.



Could I apply for a Schengen visa through Portugal after June 24, when my Schengen visa expires, or could I apply for it now so I could have a valid Schengen visa for that trip?



I have read that is a requirement to have a valid passport for at least 90 days (which I do) but I have heard that I would need a valid UK visa for at least 90 days after the return from Portugal.










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I'm an Ecuadorian citizen but I have been in the UK as a social volunteer for 8 months and I have a valid UK visa until the 30 of august of 2016 and a schengen visa valid until the 24 of June of 2016. I want to go to Lisbon from July 7 to 9, but this would be after my current Schengen visa expires.



Could I apply for a Schengen visa through Portugal after June 24, when my Schengen visa expires, or could I apply for it now so I could have a valid Schengen visa for that trip?



I have read that is a requirement to have a valid passport for at least 90 days (which I do) but I have heard that I would need a valid UK visa for at least 90 days after the return from Portugal.







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  • 3





    Be skeptical of things you have "heard" but did not come from an official source. They are sometimes wrong.

    – Michael Hampton
    Apr 19 '16 at 0:25











  • I am in the same situation now and can please update if you were succeed with your Visa application. I know this is quite old thread but I could not find any reliable source of information supporting this 3 months validity of BRP but in forums it is been said. Anyone with a first hand experience?

    – Pankajan
    Jul 16 '18 at 13:27












  • 3





    Be skeptical of things you have "heard" but did not come from an official source. They are sometimes wrong.

    – Michael Hampton
    Apr 19 '16 at 0:25











  • I am in the same situation now and can please update if you were succeed with your Visa application. I know this is quite old thread but I could not find any reliable source of information supporting this 3 months validity of BRP but in forums it is been said. Anyone with a first hand experience?

    – Pankajan
    Jul 16 '18 at 13:27







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Be skeptical of things you have "heard" but did not come from an official source. They are sometimes wrong.

– Michael Hampton
Apr 19 '16 at 0:25





Be skeptical of things you have "heard" but did not come from an official source. They are sometimes wrong.

– Michael Hampton
Apr 19 '16 at 0:25













I am in the same situation now and can please update if you were succeed with your Visa application. I know this is quite old thread but I could not find any reliable source of information supporting this 3 months validity of BRP but in forums it is been said. Anyone with a first hand experience?

– Pankajan
Jul 16 '18 at 13:27





I am in the same situation now and can please update if you were succeed with your Visa application. I know this is quite old thread but I could not find any reliable source of information supporting this 3 months validity of BRP but in forums it is been said. Anyone with a first hand experience?

– Pankajan
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You can certainly apply -- in the sense that the circumstances you have described does not require the Portuguese consulate in London to reject an application from you.



The Schengen visa processing handbook gives this example:




However, an application may
be accepted from a person legally present – but not residing - in
the jurisdiction of the consulate where the application is submitted, if
he can justify why the
application could not be lodged at
a consulate in his place of residence. It is for the consulate
to appreciate whether the justification
presented by the applicant is acceptable.



[...]



Example:
A Chinese professor has travelled to
London to teach at a university summer
school. During her stay, her father, who lives in France, falls
seriously ill and in order to
travel to France the Chinese woman applies for a visa at the French consulate in London.



The French consulate in London should deal
with the application because it would be
excessive to require the person concerned to return
to her country of residence to apply for the
visa.




You will still have to convince the Portuguese that you should be given a visa -- in particular, that you intend to leave the Schengen area after your proposed visit -- and all other things being equal, being about to lose your right to stay in the UK will make this harder for you.



They are obliged to start with the suspicion that you're a prospective economic migrant, so you'll have to present good evidence that you'd want to go back to the UK and thence back to Ecuador rather than stay illegally in the Schengen area. Since whatever is there to draw you back towards Ecuador has not been strong enough to keep you from spending a year in the UK, and it won't be much of a pull for an economic migrant to have just a handful of weeks of remaining legal presence in the UK to return to, this will take better and more convincing evidence than in a more run-of-the-mill case.



On the other hand, having had an earlier Schengen visa (and, presumably, having used it in accordance with the rules) will to some measure count in your favor.



How much harder this is is impossible to quantify. You can only try and see if that will be enough. Just be aware that you have some automatic assumptions working against you and try to address those head-on in your application.



You can apply even before your current visa expires; the visa you apply for just cannot be valid concurrently with another Schengen visa.






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    You can certainly apply -- in the sense that the circumstances you have described does not require the Portuguese consulate in London to reject an application from you.



    The Schengen visa processing handbook gives this example:




    However, an application may
    be accepted from a person legally present – but not residing - in
    the jurisdiction of the consulate where the application is submitted, if
    he can justify why the
    application could not be lodged at
    a consulate in his place of residence. It is for the consulate
    to appreciate whether the justification
    presented by the applicant is acceptable.



    [...]



    Example:
    A Chinese professor has travelled to
    London to teach at a university summer
    school. During her stay, her father, who lives in France, falls
    seriously ill and in order to
    travel to France the Chinese woman applies for a visa at the French consulate in London.



    The French consulate in London should deal
    with the application because it would be
    excessive to require the person concerned to return
    to her country of residence to apply for the
    visa.




    You will still have to convince the Portuguese that you should be given a visa -- in particular, that you intend to leave the Schengen area after your proposed visit -- and all other things being equal, being about to lose your right to stay in the UK will make this harder for you.



    They are obliged to start with the suspicion that you're a prospective economic migrant, so you'll have to present good evidence that you'd want to go back to the UK and thence back to Ecuador rather than stay illegally in the Schengen area. Since whatever is there to draw you back towards Ecuador has not been strong enough to keep you from spending a year in the UK, and it won't be much of a pull for an economic migrant to have just a handful of weeks of remaining legal presence in the UK to return to, this will take better and more convincing evidence than in a more run-of-the-mill case.



    On the other hand, having had an earlier Schengen visa (and, presumably, having used it in accordance with the rules) will to some measure count in your favor.



    How much harder this is is impossible to quantify. You can only try and see if that will be enough. Just be aware that you have some automatic assumptions working against you and try to address those head-on in your application.



    You can apply even before your current visa expires; the visa you apply for just cannot be valid concurrently with another Schengen visa.






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      You can certainly apply -- in the sense that the circumstances you have described does not require the Portuguese consulate in London to reject an application from you.



      The Schengen visa processing handbook gives this example:




      However, an application may
      be accepted from a person legally present – but not residing - in
      the jurisdiction of the consulate where the application is submitted, if
      he can justify why the
      application could not be lodged at
      a consulate in his place of residence. It is for the consulate
      to appreciate whether the justification
      presented by the applicant is acceptable.



      [...]



      Example:
      A Chinese professor has travelled to
      London to teach at a university summer
      school. During her stay, her father, who lives in France, falls
      seriously ill and in order to
      travel to France the Chinese woman applies for a visa at the French consulate in London.



      The French consulate in London should deal
      with the application because it would be
      excessive to require the person concerned to return
      to her country of residence to apply for the
      visa.




      You will still have to convince the Portuguese that you should be given a visa -- in particular, that you intend to leave the Schengen area after your proposed visit -- and all other things being equal, being about to lose your right to stay in the UK will make this harder for you.



      They are obliged to start with the suspicion that you're a prospective economic migrant, so you'll have to present good evidence that you'd want to go back to the UK and thence back to Ecuador rather than stay illegally in the Schengen area. Since whatever is there to draw you back towards Ecuador has not been strong enough to keep you from spending a year in the UK, and it won't be much of a pull for an economic migrant to have just a handful of weeks of remaining legal presence in the UK to return to, this will take better and more convincing evidence than in a more run-of-the-mill case.



      On the other hand, having had an earlier Schengen visa (and, presumably, having used it in accordance with the rules) will to some measure count in your favor.



      How much harder this is is impossible to quantify. You can only try and see if that will be enough. Just be aware that you have some automatic assumptions working against you and try to address those head-on in your application.



      You can apply even before your current visa expires; the visa you apply for just cannot be valid concurrently with another Schengen visa.






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        You can certainly apply -- in the sense that the circumstances you have described does not require the Portuguese consulate in London to reject an application from you.



        The Schengen visa processing handbook gives this example:




        However, an application may
        be accepted from a person legally present – but not residing - in
        the jurisdiction of the consulate where the application is submitted, if
        he can justify why the
        application could not be lodged at
        a consulate in his place of residence. It is for the consulate
        to appreciate whether the justification
        presented by the applicant is acceptable.



        [...]



        Example:
        A Chinese professor has travelled to
        London to teach at a university summer
        school. During her stay, her father, who lives in France, falls
        seriously ill and in order to
        travel to France the Chinese woman applies for a visa at the French consulate in London.



        The French consulate in London should deal
        with the application because it would be
        excessive to require the person concerned to return
        to her country of residence to apply for the
        visa.




        You will still have to convince the Portuguese that you should be given a visa -- in particular, that you intend to leave the Schengen area after your proposed visit -- and all other things being equal, being about to lose your right to stay in the UK will make this harder for you.



        They are obliged to start with the suspicion that you're a prospective economic migrant, so you'll have to present good evidence that you'd want to go back to the UK and thence back to Ecuador rather than stay illegally in the Schengen area. Since whatever is there to draw you back towards Ecuador has not been strong enough to keep you from spending a year in the UK, and it won't be much of a pull for an economic migrant to have just a handful of weeks of remaining legal presence in the UK to return to, this will take better and more convincing evidence than in a more run-of-the-mill case.



        On the other hand, having had an earlier Schengen visa (and, presumably, having used it in accordance with the rules) will to some measure count in your favor.



        How much harder this is is impossible to quantify. You can only try and see if that will be enough. Just be aware that you have some automatic assumptions working against you and try to address those head-on in your application.



        You can apply even before your current visa expires; the visa you apply for just cannot be valid concurrently with another Schengen visa.






        share|improve this answer















        You can certainly apply -- in the sense that the circumstances you have described does not require the Portuguese consulate in London to reject an application from you.



        The Schengen visa processing handbook gives this example:




        However, an application may
        be accepted from a person legally present – but not residing - in
        the jurisdiction of the consulate where the application is submitted, if
        he can justify why the
        application could not be lodged at
        a consulate in his place of residence. It is for the consulate
        to appreciate whether the justification
        presented by the applicant is acceptable.



        [...]



        Example:
        A Chinese professor has travelled to
        London to teach at a university summer
        school. During her stay, her father, who lives in France, falls
        seriously ill and in order to
        travel to France the Chinese woman applies for a visa at the French consulate in London.



        The French consulate in London should deal
        with the application because it would be
        excessive to require the person concerned to return
        to her country of residence to apply for the
        visa.




        You will still have to convince the Portuguese that you should be given a visa -- in particular, that you intend to leave the Schengen area after your proposed visit -- and all other things being equal, being about to lose your right to stay in the UK will make this harder for you.



        They are obliged to start with the suspicion that you're a prospective economic migrant, so you'll have to present good evidence that you'd want to go back to the UK and thence back to Ecuador rather than stay illegally in the Schengen area. Since whatever is there to draw you back towards Ecuador has not been strong enough to keep you from spending a year in the UK, and it won't be much of a pull for an economic migrant to have just a handful of weeks of remaining legal presence in the UK to return to, this will take better and more convincing evidence than in a more run-of-the-mill case.



        On the other hand, having had an earlier Schengen visa (and, presumably, having used it in accordance with the rules) will to some measure count in your favor.



        How much harder this is is impossible to quantify. You can only try and see if that will be enough. Just be aware that you have some automatic assumptions working against you and try to address those head-on in your application.



        You can apply even before your current visa expires; the visa you apply for just cannot be valid concurrently with another Schengen visa.







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