When should I get a 52-page United States passport vs. a normal passport?
I'm preparing to fly out of the United States for the first time, and I'm working on getting my passport application filled out. There's an option for a 52-page non-standard passport, and I was wondering when it makes sense to get the 52-page passport vs whatever is in the normal passport.
Is there some sort of good ballpark figure for how much international travel you should expect to be doing before selecting the 52-page option?
usa passports
asked Jun 2 '16 at 19:51
Wayne WernerWayne Werner
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I'm preparing to fly out of the United States for the first time, and I'm working on getting my passport application filled out. There's an option for a 52-page non-standard passport, and I was wondering when it makes sense to get the 52-page passport vs whatever is in the normal passport.
Is there some sort of good ballpark figure for how much international travel you should expect to be doing before selecting the 52-page option?
usa passports
asked Jun 2 '16 at 19:51
Wayne WernerWayne Werner
3101310
1
A lot. Are you flying for the job? Embarking on a year-long round-the-world trip?
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 19:54
3
I would guess "one page per trip" is about right, assuming most of your trips are simple there-and-back round trips. So estimate how many of those you will make in the next 10 years.
– Nate Eldredge
Jun 2 '16 at 19:59
3
It depends where you're going. Going to be visiting Canada all the time? You get few or no stamps in your passport at all.
– Jim MacKenzie
Jan 3 '18 at 14:13
2
@JimMacKenzie Same in Hong Kong and Israel at Ben Gurion airport
– Crazydre
Jan 4 '18 at 10:43
add a comment |
I'm preparing to fly out of the United States for the first time, and I'm working on getting my passport application filled out. There's an option for a 52-page non-standard passport, and I was wondering when it makes sense to get the 52-page passport vs whatever is in the normal passport.
Is there some sort of good ballpark figure for how much international travel you should expect to be doing before selecting the 52-page option?
usa passports
asked Jun 2 '16 at 19:51
Wayne WernerWayne Werner
3101310
I'm preparing to fly out of the United States for the first time, and I'm working on getting my passport application filled out. There's an option for a 52-page non-standard passport, and I was wondering when it makes sense to get the 52-page passport vs whatever is in the normal passport.
Is there some sort of good ballpark figure for how much international travel you should expect to be doing before selecting the 52-page option?
usa passports
usa passports
asked Jun 2 '16 at 19:51
Wayne WernerWayne Werner
3101310
asked Jun 2 '16 at 19:51
Wayne WernerWayne Werner
3101310
edited Jul 5 '18 at 2:49
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asked Jun 2 '16 at 19:51
Wayne WernerWayne Werner
3101310
asked Jun 2 '16 at 19:51
Wayne WernerWayne Werner
3101310
asked Jun 2 '16 at 19:51
Wayne WernerWayne Werner
3101310
3101310
1
A lot. Are you flying for the job? Embarking on a year-long round-the-world trip?
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 19:54
3
I would guess "one page per trip" is about right, assuming most of your trips are simple there-and-back round trips. So estimate how many of those you will make in the next 10 years.
– Nate Eldredge
Jun 2 '16 at 19:59
3
It depends where you're going. Going to be visiting Canada all the time? You get few or no stamps in your passport at all.
– Jim MacKenzie
Jan 3 '18 at 14:13
2
@JimMacKenzie Same in Hong Kong and Israel at Ben Gurion airport
– Crazydre
Jan 4 '18 at 10:43
add a comment |
1
A lot. Are you flying for the job? Embarking on a year-long round-the-world trip?
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 19:54
3
I would guess "one page per trip" is about right, assuming most of your trips are simple there-and-back round trips. So estimate how many of those you will make in the next 10 years.
– Nate Eldredge
Jun 2 '16 at 19:59
3
It depends where you're going. Going to be visiting Canada all the time? You get few or no stamps in your passport at all.
– Jim MacKenzie
Jan 3 '18 at 14:13
2
@JimMacKenzie Same in Hong Kong and Israel at Ben Gurion airport
– Crazydre
Jan 4 '18 at 10:43
1
1
A lot. Are you flying for the job? Embarking on a year-long round-the-world trip?
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 19:54
A lot. Are you flying for the job? Embarking on a year-long round-the-world trip?
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 19:54
3
3
I would guess "one page per trip" is about right, assuming most of your trips are simple there-and-back round trips. So estimate how many of those you will make in the next 10 years.
– Nate Eldredge
Jun 2 '16 at 19:59
I would guess "one page per trip" is about right, assuming most of your trips are simple there-and-back round trips. So estimate how many of those you will make in the next 10 years.
– Nate Eldredge
Jun 2 '16 at 19:59
3
3
It depends where you're going. Going to be visiting Canada all the time? You get few or no stamps in your passport at all.
– Jim MacKenzie
Jan 3 '18 at 14:13
It depends where you're going. Going to be visiting Canada all the time? You get few or no stamps in your passport at all.
– Jim MacKenzie
Jan 3 '18 at 14:13
2
2
@JimMacKenzie Same in Hong Kong and Israel at Ben Gurion airport
– Crazydre
Jan 4 '18 at 10:43
@JimMacKenzie Same in Hong Kong and Israel at Ben Gurion airport
– Crazydre
Jan 4 '18 at 10:43
add a comment |
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It's easy to get a ballpark worse-case estimate. If you count one page per trip (one entry stamp and one exit stamp on the same page), 10 years of validity and 24 pages, that's at least between 2 and 3 trips per year. In reality, you will manage more than that (because stamps are small and border guards can put them on pages that have already been used) but you might also need several pages for a single country (e.g. if you need a visa – but US citizens are lucky in this respect as they can visit many countries without one).
My understanding is that the choice between 24 and 52 pages is at the discretion of the passport office. If that's your very first passport and unless you just started a career that requires frequent travel abroad, you're very unlikely to either get or need the 52-page variant.
answered Jun 2 '16 at 20:05
RelaxedRelaxed
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One page per trip? I have one page in my passport with 18 stamps on it...
– Doc
Jun 2 '16 at 20:09
1
@Doc Yes, that was meant as a worse case estimate, as the rest of the answer was supposed to clarify. Will try to edit to stress it even more. Personally, I never reached 18 stamps on a single page but this only strengthens the conclusion: The OP is unlikely to need more than 24 pages.
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 20:10
3
The only recommendation they had on the state department site was "if you've ever had to get extra visa pages". Well, if I'm getting a passport for the first time I certainly never needed extra visa pages now, did I? Anyway, this was exactly the information I needed, and gives me confidence that I'm unlikely to have a problem, unless someone decides they're going to start flying me around the world a lot :)
– Wayne Werner
Jun 2 '16 at 20:17
2
@WayneWerner furthermore, the US no longer adds extra visa pages to its passports, so as things stand now nobody will ever fall into that category inthe future.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:06
1
While issuing the 52-page variant may be at the discretion of the office, they seem to give it to basically anyone. I got a new 52-page passport when I was 17 with no stamps on my previous passport by simply checking "large book" in my renewal form without paying anything extra (or anything at all for that matter, it was with a DS-5504).
– Artemis Tosini
Mar 13 at 19:08
|
show 2 more comments
Get the bigger one. 10 years is a long time. It’s a free upgrade.
edited Jan 3 '18 at 18:23
David Richerby
14.2k94589
answered Jan 3 '18 at 14:02
MJBMJB
491
A US passport (first time or renewal) is not free.
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 14:49
6
@Newton but the difference in cost between different sizes of passport is zero, so choosing the larger size instead of the smaller size is indeed free.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:08
1
@phoog yes that's correct. Just didn't want the answer to mislead someone into thinking the passport is free
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 17:14
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It's easy to get a ballpark worse-case estimate. If you count one page per trip (one entry stamp and one exit stamp on the same page), 10 years of validity and 24 pages, that's at least between 2 and 3 trips per year. In reality, you will manage more than that (because stamps are small and border guards can put them on pages that have already been used) but you might also need several pages for a single country (e.g. if you need a visa – but US citizens are lucky in this respect as they can visit many countries without one).
My understanding is that the choice between 24 and 52 pages is at the discretion of the passport office. If that's your very first passport and unless you just started a career that requires frequent travel abroad, you're very unlikely to either get or need the 52-page variant.
answered Jun 2 '16 at 20:05
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One page per trip? I have one page in my passport with 18 stamps on it...
– Doc
Jun 2 '16 at 20:09
1
@Doc Yes, that was meant as a worse case estimate, as the rest of the answer was supposed to clarify. Will try to edit to stress it even more. Personally, I never reached 18 stamps on a single page but this only strengthens the conclusion: The OP is unlikely to need more than 24 pages.
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 20:10
3
The only recommendation they had on the state department site was "if you've ever had to get extra visa pages". Well, if I'm getting a passport for the first time I certainly never needed extra visa pages now, did I? Anyway, this was exactly the information I needed, and gives me confidence that I'm unlikely to have a problem, unless someone decides they're going to start flying me around the world a lot :)
– Wayne Werner
Jun 2 '16 at 20:17
2
@WayneWerner furthermore, the US no longer adds extra visa pages to its passports, so as things stand now nobody will ever fall into that category inthe future.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:06
1
While issuing the 52-page variant may be at the discretion of the office, they seem to give it to basically anyone. I got a new 52-page passport when I was 17 with no stamps on my previous passport by simply checking "large book" in my renewal form without paying anything extra (or anything at all for that matter, it was with a DS-5504).
– Artemis Tosini
Mar 13 at 19:08
|
show 2 more comments
It's easy to get a ballpark worse-case estimate. If you count one page per trip (one entry stamp and one exit stamp on the same page), 10 years of validity and 24 pages, that's at least between 2 and 3 trips per year. In reality, you will manage more than that (because stamps are small and border guards can put them on pages that have already been used) but you might also need several pages for a single country (e.g. if you need a visa – but US citizens are lucky in this respect as they can visit many countries without one).
My understanding is that the choice between 24 and 52 pages is at the discretion of the passport office. If that's your very first passport and unless you just started a career that requires frequent travel abroad, you're very unlikely to either get or need the 52-page variant.
answered Jun 2 '16 at 20:05
RelaxedRelaxed
76.8k10155291
4
One page per trip? I have one page in my passport with 18 stamps on it...
– Doc
Jun 2 '16 at 20:09
1
@Doc Yes, that was meant as a worse case estimate, as the rest of the answer was supposed to clarify. Will try to edit to stress it even more. Personally, I never reached 18 stamps on a single page but this only strengthens the conclusion: The OP is unlikely to need more than 24 pages.
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 20:10
3
The only recommendation they had on the state department site was "if you've ever had to get extra visa pages". Well, if I'm getting a passport for the first time I certainly never needed extra visa pages now, did I? Anyway, this was exactly the information I needed, and gives me confidence that I'm unlikely to have a problem, unless someone decides they're going to start flying me around the world a lot :)
– Wayne Werner
Jun 2 '16 at 20:17
2
@WayneWerner furthermore, the US no longer adds extra visa pages to its passports, so as things stand now nobody will ever fall into that category inthe future.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:06
1
While issuing the 52-page variant may be at the discretion of the office, they seem to give it to basically anyone. I got a new 52-page passport when I was 17 with no stamps on my previous passport by simply checking "large book" in my renewal form without paying anything extra (or anything at all for that matter, it was with a DS-5504).
– Artemis Tosini
Mar 13 at 19:08
|
show 2 more comments
It's easy to get a ballpark worse-case estimate. If you count one page per trip (one entry stamp and one exit stamp on the same page), 10 years of validity and 24 pages, that's at least between 2 and 3 trips per year. In reality, you will manage more than that (because stamps are small and border guards can put them on pages that have already been used) but you might also need several pages for a single country (e.g. if you need a visa – but US citizens are lucky in this respect as they can visit many countries without one).
My understanding is that the choice between 24 and 52 pages is at the discretion of the passport office. If that's your very first passport and unless you just started a career that requires frequent travel abroad, you're very unlikely to either get or need the 52-page variant.
answered Jun 2 '16 at 20:05
RelaxedRelaxed
76.8k10155291
It's easy to get a ballpark worse-case estimate. If you count one page per trip (one entry stamp and one exit stamp on the same page), 10 years of validity and 24 pages, that's at least between 2 and 3 trips per year. In reality, you will manage more than that (because stamps are small and border guards can put them on pages that have already been used) but you might also need several pages for a single country (e.g. if you need a visa – but US citizens are lucky in this respect as they can visit many countries without one).
My understanding is that the choice between 24 and 52 pages is at the discretion of the passport office. If that's your very first passport and unless you just started a career that requires frequent travel abroad, you're very unlikely to either get or need the 52-page variant.
answered Jun 2 '16 at 20:05
RelaxedRelaxed
76.8k10155291
edited Jun 2 '16 at 20:21
answered Jun 2 '16 at 20:05
RelaxedRelaxed
76.8k10155291
answered Jun 2 '16 at 20:05
RelaxedRelaxed
76.8k10155291
answered Jun 2 '16 at 20:05
RelaxedRelaxed
76.8k10155291
76.8k10155291
4
One page per trip? I have one page in my passport with 18 stamps on it...
– Doc
Jun 2 '16 at 20:09
1
@Doc Yes, that was meant as a worse case estimate, as the rest of the answer was supposed to clarify. Will try to edit to stress it even more. Personally, I never reached 18 stamps on a single page but this only strengthens the conclusion: The OP is unlikely to need more than 24 pages.
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 20:10
3
The only recommendation they had on the state department site was "if you've ever had to get extra visa pages". Well, if I'm getting a passport for the first time I certainly never needed extra visa pages now, did I? Anyway, this was exactly the information I needed, and gives me confidence that I'm unlikely to have a problem, unless someone decides they're going to start flying me around the world a lot :)
– Wayne Werner
Jun 2 '16 at 20:17
2
@WayneWerner furthermore, the US no longer adds extra visa pages to its passports, so as things stand now nobody will ever fall into that category inthe future.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:06
1
While issuing the 52-page variant may be at the discretion of the office, they seem to give it to basically anyone. I got a new 52-page passport when I was 17 with no stamps on my previous passport by simply checking "large book" in my renewal form without paying anything extra (or anything at all for that matter, it was with a DS-5504).
– Artemis Tosini
Mar 13 at 19:08
|
show 2 more comments
4
One page per trip? I have one page in my passport with 18 stamps on it...
– Doc
Jun 2 '16 at 20:09
1
@Doc Yes, that was meant as a worse case estimate, as the rest of the answer was supposed to clarify. Will try to edit to stress it even more. Personally, I never reached 18 stamps on a single page but this only strengthens the conclusion: The OP is unlikely to need more than 24 pages.
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 20:10
3
The only recommendation they had on the state department site was "if you've ever had to get extra visa pages". Well, if I'm getting a passport for the first time I certainly never needed extra visa pages now, did I? Anyway, this was exactly the information I needed, and gives me confidence that I'm unlikely to have a problem, unless someone decides they're going to start flying me around the world a lot :)
– Wayne Werner
Jun 2 '16 at 20:17
2
@WayneWerner furthermore, the US no longer adds extra visa pages to its passports, so as things stand now nobody will ever fall into that category inthe future.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:06
1
While issuing the 52-page variant may be at the discretion of the office, they seem to give it to basically anyone. I got a new 52-page passport when I was 17 with no stamps on my previous passport by simply checking "large book" in my renewal form without paying anything extra (or anything at all for that matter, it was with a DS-5504).
– Artemis Tosini
Mar 13 at 19:08
4
4
One page per trip? I have one page in my passport with 18 stamps on it...
– Doc
Jun 2 '16 at 20:09
One page per trip? I have one page in my passport with 18 stamps on it...
– Doc
Jun 2 '16 at 20:09
1
1
@Doc Yes, that was meant as a worse case estimate, as the rest of the answer was supposed to clarify. Will try to edit to stress it even more. Personally, I never reached 18 stamps on a single page but this only strengthens the conclusion: The OP is unlikely to need more than 24 pages.
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 20:10
@Doc Yes, that was meant as a worse case estimate, as the rest of the answer was supposed to clarify. Will try to edit to stress it even more. Personally, I never reached 18 stamps on a single page but this only strengthens the conclusion: The OP is unlikely to need more than 24 pages.
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 20:10
3
3
The only recommendation they had on the state department site was "if you've ever had to get extra visa pages". Well, if I'm getting a passport for the first time I certainly never needed extra visa pages now, did I? Anyway, this was exactly the information I needed, and gives me confidence that I'm unlikely to have a problem, unless someone decides they're going to start flying me around the world a lot :)
– Wayne Werner
Jun 2 '16 at 20:17
The only recommendation they had on the state department site was "if you've ever had to get extra visa pages". Well, if I'm getting a passport for the first time I certainly never needed extra visa pages now, did I? Anyway, this was exactly the information I needed, and gives me confidence that I'm unlikely to have a problem, unless someone decides they're going to start flying me around the world a lot :)
– Wayne Werner
Jun 2 '16 at 20:17
2
2
@WayneWerner furthermore, the US no longer adds extra visa pages to its passports, so as things stand now nobody will ever fall into that category inthe future.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:06
@WayneWerner furthermore, the US no longer adds extra visa pages to its passports, so as things stand now nobody will ever fall into that category inthe future.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:06
1
1
While issuing the 52-page variant may be at the discretion of the office, they seem to give it to basically anyone. I got a new 52-page passport when I was 17 with no stamps on my previous passport by simply checking "large book" in my renewal form without paying anything extra (or anything at all for that matter, it was with a DS-5504).
– Artemis Tosini
Mar 13 at 19:08
While issuing the 52-page variant may be at the discretion of the office, they seem to give it to basically anyone. I got a new 52-page passport when I was 17 with no stamps on my previous passport by simply checking "large book" in my renewal form without paying anything extra (or anything at all for that matter, it was with a DS-5504).
– Artemis Tosini
Mar 13 at 19:08
|
show 2 more comments
Get the bigger one. 10 years is a long time. It’s a free upgrade.
edited Jan 3 '18 at 18:23
David Richerby
14.2k94589
answered Jan 3 '18 at 14:02
MJBMJB
491
A US passport (first time or renewal) is not free.
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 14:49
6
@Newton but the difference in cost between different sizes of passport is zero, so choosing the larger size instead of the smaller size is indeed free.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:08
1
@phoog yes that's correct. Just didn't want the answer to mislead someone into thinking the passport is free
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 17:14
add a comment |
Get the bigger one. 10 years is a long time. It’s a free upgrade.
edited Jan 3 '18 at 18:23
David Richerby
14.2k94589
answered Jan 3 '18 at 14:02
MJBMJB
491
A US passport (first time or renewal) is not free.
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 14:49
6
@Newton but the difference in cost between different sizes of passport is zero, so choosing the larger size instead of the smaller size is indeed free.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:08
1
@phoog yes that's correct. Just didn't want the answer to mislead someone into thinking the passport is free
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 17:14
add a comment |
Get the bigger one. 10 years is a long time. It’s a free upgrade.
edited Jan 3 '18 at 18:23
David Richerby
14.2k94589
answered Jan 3 '18 at 14:02
MJBMJB
491
Get the bigger one. 10 years is a long time. It’s a free upgrade.
edited Jan 3 '18 at 18:23
David Richerby
14.2k94589
answered Jan 3 '18 at 14:02
MJBMJB
491
edited Jan 3 '18 at 18:23
David Richerby
14.2k94589
edited Jan 3 '18 at 18:23
David Richerby
14.2k94589
edited Jan 3 '18 at 18:23
David Richerby
14.2k94589
14.2k94589
answered Jan 3 '18 at 14:02
MJBMJB
491
answered Jan 3 '18 at 14:02
MJBMJB
491
answered Jan 3 '18 at 14:02
MJBMJB
491
491
A US passport (first time or renewal) is not free.
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 14:49
6
@Newton but the difference in cost between different sizes of passport is zero, so choosing the larger size instead of the smaller size is indeed free.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:08
1
@phoog yes that's correct. Just didn't want the answer to mislead someone into thinking the passport is free
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 17:14
add a comment |
A US passport (first time or renewal) is not free.
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 14:49
6
@Newton but the difference in cost between different sizes of passport is zero, so choosing the larger size instead of the smaller size is indeed free.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:08
1
@phoog yes that's correct. Just didn't want the answer to mislead someone into thinking the passport is free
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 17:14
A US passport (first time or renewal) is not free.
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 14:49
A US passport (first time or renewal) is not free.
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 14:49
6
6
@Newton but the difference in cost between different sizes of passport is zero, so choosing the larger size instead of the smaller size is indeed free.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:08
@Newton but the difference in cost between different sizes of passport is zero, so choosing the larger size instead of the smaller size is indeed free.
– phoog
Jan 3 '18 at 17:08
1
1
@phoog yes that's correct. Just didn't want the answer to mislead someone into thinking the passport is free
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 17:14
@phoog yes that's correct. Just didn't want the answer to mislead someone into thinking the passport is free
– Newton
Jan 3 '18 at 17:14
add a comment |
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A lot. Are you flying for the job? Embarking on a year-long round-the-world trip?
– Relaxed
Jun 2 '16 at 19:54
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I would guess "one page per trip" is about right, assuming most of your trips are simple there-and-back round trips. So estimate how many of those you will make in the next 10 years.
– Nate Eldredge
Jun 2 '16 at 19:59
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It depends where you're going. Going to be visiting Canada all the time? You get few or no stamps in your passport at all.
– Jim MacKenzie
Jan 3 '18 at 14:13
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@JimMacKenzie Same in Hong Kong and Israel at Ben Gurion airport
– Crazydre
Jan 4 '18 at 10:43