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I'm a UK citizen studying in NY, my student visa runs out in September. I was thinking to go to Canada (for example) and apply for a tourist visa back into the US. Does anyone know how long I would have to be out of the US to apply? How long does the application take and so on?










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    I'm confused. Do you plan to continue studying? Or is the idea that your studies will be done in September and you want to come back to the US as a tourist? You don't have to leave the US when your visa expires (this is different from many other countries), but you do have to leave when you are out of "status," which for a student visa occurs when your school reports that you are finished or have left your program.

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:17






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    Furthermore, you do not need a tourist visa if you want to return to the US for less than 90 days, as you can enter under the Visa Waiver Program. If you want to stay longer, you need B-2 status. You don't actually need to leave the US when you are out of status, as @ZachLipton says, because you can apply to change your status while remaining in the US. This could be more expensive than a trip to Canada, however, so most people seem to change status by leaving, applying for a new visa, and re-entering.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:26







  • 2





    In short, please tell us exactly what your situation is and what you're looking to do, because it's pretty confusing right now.

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:29











  • thank you. So I'm a student at the moment, with an F1 visa. My course finishes on the 15th august, I have to be out of the us by the 12th Sep. I would like to come back to the US, but 90 days would be fine.. What would be my cheapest option?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:58











  • basically i would just like to stay for a month or so longer...

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:59















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I'm a UK citizen studying in NY, my student visa runs out in September. I was thinking to go to Canada (for example) and apply for a tourist visa back into the US. Does anyone know how long I would have to be out of the US to apply? How long does the application take and so on?










share|improve this question



















  • 2





    I'm confused. Do you plan to continue studying? Or is the idea that your studies will be done in September and you want to come back to the US as a tourist? You don't have to leave the US when your visa expires (this is different from many other countries), but you do have to leave when you are out of "status," which for a student visa occurs when your school reports that you are finished or have left your program.

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:17






  • 2





    Furthermore, you do not need a tourist visa if you want to return to the US for less than 90 days, as you can enter under the Visa Waiver Program. If you want to stay longer, you need B-2 status. You don't actually need to leave the US when you are out of status, as @ZachLipton says, because you can apply to change your status while remaining in the US. This could be more expensive than a trip to Canada, however, so most people seem to change status by leaving, applying for a new visa, and re-entering.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:26







  • 2





    In short, please tell us exactly what your situation is and what you're looking to do, because it's pretty confusing right now.

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:29











  • thank you. So I'm a student at the moment, with an F1 visa. My course finishes on the 15th august, I have to be out of the us by the 12th Sep. I would like to come back to the US, but 90 days would be fine.. What would be my cheapest option?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:58











  • basically i would just like to stay for a month or so longer...

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:59













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I'm a UK citizen studying in NY, my student visa runs out in September. I was thinking to go to Canada (for example) and apply for a tourist visa back into the US. Does anyone know how long I would have to be out of the US to apply? How long does the application take and so on?










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I'm a UK citizen studying in NY, my student visa runs out in September. I was thinking to go to Canada (for example) and apply for a tourist visa back into the US. Does anyone know how long I would have to be out of the US to apply? How long does the application take and so on?







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  • 2





    I'm confused. Do you plan to continue studying? Or is the idea that your studies will be done in September and you want to come back to the US as a tourist? You don't have to leave the US when your visa expires (this is different from many other countries), but you do have to leave when you are out of "status," which for a student visa occurs when your school reports that you are finished or have left your program.

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:17






  • 2





    Furthermore, you do not need a tourist visa if you want to return to the US for less than 90 days, as you can enter under the Visa Waiver Program. If you want to stay longer, you need B-2 status. You don't actually need to leave the US when you are out of status, as @ZachLipton says, because you can apply to change your status while remaining in the US. This could be more expensive than a trip to Canada, however, so most people seem to change status by leaving, applying for a new visa, and re-entering.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:26







  • 2





    In short, please tell us exactly what your situation is and what you're looking to do, because it's pretty confusing right now.

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:29











  • thank you. So I'm a student at the moment, with an F1 visa. My course finishes on the 15th august, I have to be out of the us by the 12th Sep. I would like to come back to the US, but 90 days would be fine.. What would be my cheapest option?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:58











  • basically i would just like to stay for a month or so longer...

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:59












  • 2





    I'm confused. Do you plan to continue studying? Or is the idea that your studies will be done in September and you want to come back to the US as a tourist? You don't have to leave the US when your visa expires (this is different from many other countries), but you do have to leave when you are out of "status," which for a student visa occurs when your school reports that you are finished or have left your program.

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:17






  • 2





    Furthermore, you do not need a tourist visa if you want to return to the US for less than 90 days, as you can enter under the Visa Waiver Program. If you want to stay longer, you need B-2 status. You don't actually need to leave the US when you are out of status, as @ZachLipton says, because you can apply to change your status while remaining in the US. This could be more expensive than a trip to Canada, however, so most people seem to change status by leaving, applying for a new visa, and re-entering.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:26







  • 2





    In short, please tell us exactly what your situation is and what you're looking to do, because it's pretty confusing right now.

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:29











  • thank you. So I'm a student at the moment, with an F1 visa. My course finishes on the 15th august, I have to be out of the us by the 12th Sep. I would like to come back to the US, but 90 days would be fine.. What would be my cheapest option?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:58











  • basically i would just like to stay for a month or so longer...

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 16:59







2




2





I'm confused. Do you plan to continue studying? Or is the idea that your studies will be done in September and you want to come back to the US as a tourist? You don't have to leave the US when your visa expires (this is different from many other countries), but you do have to leave when you are out of "status," which for a student visa occurs when your school reports that you are finished or have left your program.

– Zach Lipton
Jul 19 '16 at 16:17





I'm confused. Do you plan to continue studying? Or is the idea that your studies will be done in September and you want to come back to the US as a tourist? You don't have to leave the US when your visa expires (this is different from many other countries), but you do have to leave when you are out of "status," which for a student visa occurs when your school reports that you are finished or have left your program.

– Zach Lipton
Jul 19 '16 at 16:17




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Furthermore, you do not need a tourist visa if you want to return to the US for less than 90 days, as you can enter under the Visa Waiver Program. If you want to stay longer, you need B-2 status. You don't actually need to leave the US when you are out of status, as @ZachLipton says, because you can apply to change your status while remaining in the US. This could be more expensive than a trip to Canada, however, so most people seem to change status by leaving, applying for a new visa, and re-entering.

– phoog
Jul 19 '16 at 16:26






Furthermore, you do not need a tourist visa if you want to return to the US for less than 90 days, as you can enter under the Visa Waiver Program. If you want to stay longer, you need B-2 status. You don't actually need to leave the US when you are out of status, as @ZachLipton says, because you can apply to change your status while remaining in the US. This could be more expensive than a trip to Canada, however, so most people seem to change status by leaving, applying for a new visa, and re-entering.

– phoog
Jul 19 '16 at 16:26





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In short, please tell us exactly what your situation is and what you're looking to do, because it's pretty confusing right now.

– Zach Lipton
Jul 19 '16 at 16:29





In short, please tell us exactly what your situation is and what you're looking to do, because it's pretty confusing right now.

– Zach Lipton
Jul 19 '16 at 16:29













thank you. So I'm a student at the moment, with an F1 visa. My course finishes on the 15th august, I have to be out of the us by the 12th Sep. I would like to come back to the US, but 90 days would be fine.. What would be my cheapest option?

– Beatrice Scirocchi
Jul 19 '16 at 16:58





thank you. So I'm a student at the moment, with an F1 visa. My course finishes on the 15th august, I have to be out of the us by the 12th Sep. I would like to come back to the US, but 90 days would be fine.. What would be my cheapest option?

– Beatrice Scirocchi
Jul 19 '16 at 16:58













basically i would just like to stay for a month or so longer...

– Beatrice Scirocchi
Jul 19 '16 at 16:59





basically i would just like to stay for a month or so longer...

– Beatrice Scirocchi
Jul 19 '16 at 16:59










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If you want to return as a visitor to the US after Aug 15th and for just a month, there's two things you can do:



1- File an I-539 form to change to a B1/B2 status*



2- Go across the border to Canada and re-enter the US under the VWP which you're entitled to as a UK citizen



* Note that you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change. Since you have to mail the application, that could be slower than the second option






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  • Note: if you are entering the USA via land you do not even need an ESTA.

    – chx
    Jul 19 '16 at 17:34












  • Can I apply for vwp from the US? And do I have to be out of the US for a particular amount of time before re entering?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:15











  • @BeatriceScirocchi you can't really apply for VWP, it's the program which allows you to enter the US without a visa, and is essentially the same as a B1/B2 status. There's technically no amount of time you have to wait, but the border official will probably ask questions

    – blackbird
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:17











  • Yeah you're biggest issue is that the VWP requires that you demonstrate that you are a short-term visitor who will return home and not live in the United States. As a recent US student, you likely have a bunch of ties to the US and few ties to your home country. You may well face questions from the border officials, and it would help to have strong reasons why you will return home: e.g. you're starting a job in a month (and here's proof of that) or you're starting another course of studies (and here's proof of that).

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:30











  • "you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change and they can have you removed": The US doesn't remove people solely for being out of status if they have a pending change of status application.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:32










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If you want to return as a visitor to the US after Aug 15th and for just a month, there's two things you can do:



1- File an I-539 form to change to a B1/B2 status*



2- Go across the border to Canada and re-enter the US under the VWP which you're entitled to as a UK citizen



* Note that you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change. Since you have to mail the application, that could be slower than the second option






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  • Note: if you are entering the USA via land you do not even need an ESTA.

    – chx
    Jul 19 '16 at 17:34












  • Can I apply for vwp from the US? And do I have to be out of the US for a particular amount of time before re entering?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:15











  • @BeatriceScirocchi you can't really apply for VWP, it's the program which allows you to enter the US without a visa, and is essentially the same as a B1/B2 status. There's technically no amount of time you have to wait, but the border official will probably ask questions

    – blackbird
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:17











  • Yeah you're biggest issue is that the VWP requires that you demonstrate that you are a short-term visitor who will return home and not live in the United States. As a recent US student, you likely have a bunch of ties to the US and few ties to your home country. You may well face questions from the border officials, and it would help to have strong reasons why you will return home: e.g. you're starting a job in a month (and here's proof of that) or you're starting another course of studies (and here's proof of that).

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:30











  • "you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change and they can have you removed": The US doesn't remove people solely for being out of status if they have a pending change of status application.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:32















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If you want to return as a visitor to the US after Aug 15th and for just a month, there's two things you can do:



1- File an I-539 form to change to a B1/B2 status*



2- Go across the border to Canada and re-enter the US under the VWP which you're entitled to as a UK citizen



* Note that you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change. Since you have to mail the application, that could be slower than the second option






share|improve this answer

























  • Note: if you are entering the USA via land you do not even need an ESTA.

    – chx
    Jul 19 '16 at 17:34












  • Can I apply for vwp from the US? And do I have to be out of the US for a particular amount of time before re entering?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:15











  • @BeatriceScirocchi you can't really apply for VWP, it's the program which allows you to enter the US without a visa, and is essentially the same as a B1/B2 status. There's technically no amount of time you have to wait, but the border official will probably ask questions

    – blackbird
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:17











  • Yeah you're biggest issue is that the VWP requires that you demonstrate that you are a short-term visitor who will return home and not live in the United States. As a recent US student, you likely have a bunch of ties to the US and few ties to your home country. You may well face questions from the border officials, and it would help to have strong reasons why you will return home: e.g. you're starting a job in a month (and here's proof of that) or you're starting another course of studies (and here's proof of that).

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:30











  • "you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change and they can have you removed": The US doesn't remove people solely for being out of status if they have a pending change of status application.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:32













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If you want to return as a visitor to the US after Aug 15th and for just a month, there's two things you can do:



1- File an I-539 form to change to a B1/B2 status*



2- Go across the border to Canada and re-enter the US under the VWP which you're entitled to as a UK citizen



* Note that you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change. Since you have to mail the application, that could be slower than the second option






share|improve this answer















If you want to return as a visitor to the US after Aug 15th and for just a month, there's two things you can do:



1- File an I-539 form to change to a B1/B2 status*



2- Go across the border to Canada and re-enter the US under the VWP which you're entitled to as a UK citizen



* Note that you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change. Since you have to mail the application, that could be slower than the second option







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  • Note: if you are entering the USA via land you do not even need an ESTA.

    – chx
    Jul 19 '16 at 17:34












  • Can I apply for vwp from the US? And do I have to be out of the US for a particular amount of time before re entering?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:15











  • @BeatriceScirocchi you can't really apply for VWP, it's the program which allows you to enter the US without a visa, and is essentially the same as a B1/B2 status. There's technically no amount of time you have to wait, but the border official will probably ask questions

    – blackbird
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:17











  • Yeah you're biggest issue is that the VWP requires that you demonstrate that you are a short-term visitor who will return home and not live in the United States. As a recent US student, you likely have a bunch of ties to the US and few ties to your home country. You may well face questions from the border officials, and it would help to have strong reasons why you will return home: e.g. you're starting a job in a month (and here's proof of that) or you're starting another course of studies (and here's proof of that).

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:30











  • "you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change and they can have you removed": The US doesn't remove people solely for being out of status if they have a pending change of status application.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:32

















  • Note: if you are entering the USA via land you do not even need an ESTA.

    – chx
    Jul 19 '16 at 17:34












  • Can I apply for vwp from the US? And do I have to be out of the US for a particular amount of time before re entering?

    – Beatrice Scirocchi
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:15











  • @BeatriceScirocchi you can't really apply for VWP, it's the program which allows you to enter the US without a visa, and is essentially the same as a B1/B2 status. There's technically no amount of time you have to wait, but the border official will probably ask questions

    – blackbird
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:17











  • Yeah you're biggest issue is that the VWP requires that you demonstrate that you are a short-term visitor who will return home and not live in the United States. As a recent US student, you likely have a bunch of ties to the US and few ties to your home country. You may well face questions from the border officials, and it would help to have strong reasons why you will return home: e.g. you're starting a job in a month (and here's proof of that) or you're starting another course of studies (and here's proof of that).

    – Zach Lipton
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:30











  • "you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change and they can have you removed": The US doesn't remove people solely for being out of status if they have a pending change of status application.

    – phoog
    Jul 19 '16 at 18:32
















Note: if you are entering the USA via land you do not even need an ESTA.

– chx
Jul 19 '16 at 17:34






Note: if you are entering the USA via land you do not even need an ESTA.

– chx
Jul 19 '16 at 17:34














Can I apply for vwp from the US? And do I have to be out of the US for a particular amount of time before re entering?

– Beatrice Scirocchi
Jul 19 '16 at 18:15





Can I apply for vwp from the US? And do I have to be out of the US for a particular amount of time before re entering?

– Beatrice Scirocchi
Jul 19 '16 at 18:15













@BeatriceScirocchi you can't really apply for VWP, it's the program which allows you to enter the US without a visa, and is essentially the same as a B1/B2 status. There's technically no amount of time you have to wait, but the border official will probably ask questions

– blackbird
Jul 19 '16 at 18:17





@BeatriceScirocchi you can't really apply for VWP, it's the program which allows you to enter the US without a visa, and is essentially the same as a B1/B2 status. There's technically no amount of time you have to wait, but the border official will probably ask questions

– blackbird
Jul 19 '16 at 18:17













Yeah you're biggest issue is that the VWP requires that you demonstrate that you are a short-term visitor who will return home and not live in the United States. As a recent US student, you likely have a bunch of ties to the US and few ties to your home country. You may well face questions from the border officials, and it would help to have strong reasons why you will return home: e.g. you're starting a job in a month (and here's proof of that) or you're starting another course of studies (and here's proof of that).

– Zach Lipton
Jul 19 '16 at 18:30





Yeah you're biggest issue is that the VWP requires that you demonstrate that you are a short-term visitor who will return home and not live in the United States. As a recent US student, you likely have a bunch of ties to the US and few ties to your home country. You may well face questions from the border officials, and it would help to have strong reasons why you will return home: e.g. you're starting a job in a month (and here's proof of that) or you're starting another course of studies (and here's proof of that).

– Zach Lipton
Jul 19 '16 at 18:30













"you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change and they can have you removed": The US doesn't remove people solely for being out of status if they have a pending change of status application.

– phoog
Jul 19 '16 at 18:32





"you're still out of status even if you have timely applied for a change and they can have you removed": The US doesn't remove people solely for being out of status if they have a pending change of status application.

– phoog
Jul 19 '16 at 18:32

















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