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I have an Australian travel document for refugees. Do I need a visa to travel to Germany? From there, will I be able to travel to Belgium ?










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    When you say "Stay in Belgium", do you mean in a hotel, or that you want to start living there?

    – CMaster
    Oct 7 '16 at 14:28






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    Isn't it the other way around? You are supposed to apply for asylum in the first EU country you reach. But since you already have asylum in Austria, you aren't going to be able to get it elsewhere (except in the unlikely event that Austria is no longer safe for you, I suppose). Anyway, asylum is off topic here, go to Expatriates.

    – phoog
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:04






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    How many places does one need to be granted Asylum to be safe?

    – CMaster
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:05






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    @CMaster the OP is Australia; might he actually mean Austria?

    – Giorgio
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:19






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    @phoog You can apply for asylum wherever you want. It's only once you have applied that the Dublin system becomes relevant. Belgium will most likely try to force Germany (or whichever country issued the visa) to take you and process the application or possibly even to send you to Australia (that would be unrelated to Dublin obviously) but that does not mean they would be successful. Of course, entering through another country does make that somewhat more likely I would think, but the system is broken and unpredictable.

    – Relaxed
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:40
















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I have an Australian travel document for refugees. Do I need a visa to travel to Germany? From there, will I be able to travel to Belgium ?










share|improve this question



















  • 1





    When you say "Stay in Belgium", do you mean in a hotel, or that you want to start living there?

    – CMaster
    Oct 7 '16 at 14:28






  • 4





    Isn't it the other way around? You are supposed to apply for asylum in the first EU country you reach. But since you already have asylum in Austria, you aren't going to be able to get it elsewhere (except in the unlikely event that Austria is no longer safe for you, I suppose). Anyway, asylum is off topic here, go to Expatriates.

    – phoog
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:04






  • 1





    How many places does one need to be granted Asylum to be safe?

    – CMaster
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:05






  • 3





    @CMaster the OP is Australia; might he actually mean Austria?

    – Giorgio
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:19






  • 2





    @phoog You can apply for asylum wherever you want. It's only once you have applied that the Dublin system becomes relevant. Belgium will most likely try to force Germany (or whichever country issued the visa) to take you and process the application or possibly even to send you to Australia (that would be unrelated to Dublin obviously) but that does not mean they would be successful. Of course, entering through another country does make that somewhat more likely I would think, but the system is broken and unpredictable.

    – Relaxed
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:40














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I have an Australian travel document for refugees. Do I need a visa to travel to Germany? From there, will I be able to travel to Belgium ?










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    When you say "Stay in Belgium", do you mean in a hotel, or that you want to start living there?

    – CMaster
    Oct 7 '16 at 14:28






  • 4





    Isn't it the other way around? You are supposed to apply for asylum in the first EU country you reach. But since you already have asylum in Austria, you aren't going to be able to get it elsewhere (except in the unlikely event that Austria is no longer safe for you, I suppose). Anyway, asylum is off topic here, go to Expatriates.

    – phoog
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:04






  • 1





    How many places does one need to be granted Asylum to be safe?

    – CMaster
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:05






  • 3





    @CMaster the OP is Australia; might he actually mean Austria?

    – Giorgio
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:19






  • 2





    @phoog You can apply for asylum wherever you want. It's only once you have applied that the Dublin system becomes relevant. Belgium will most likely try to force Germany (or whichever country issued the visa) to take you and process the application or possibly even to send you to Australia (that would be unrelated to Dublin obviously) but that does not mean they would be successful. Of course, entering through another country does make that somewhat more likely I would think, but the system is broken and unpredictable.

    – Relaxed
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:40













  • 1





    When you say "Stay in Belgium", do you mean in a hotel, or that you want to start living there?

    – CMaster
    Oct 7 '16 at 14:28






  • 4





    Isn't it the other way around? You are supposed to apply for asylum in the first EU country you reach. But since you already have asylum in Austria, you aren't going to be able to get it elsewhere (except in the unlikely event that Austria is no longer safe for you, I suppose). Anyway, asylum is off topic here, go to Expatriates.

    – phoog
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:04






  • 1





    How many places does one need to be granted Asylum to be safe?

    – CMaster
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:05






  • 3





    @CMaster the OP is Australia; might he actually mean Austria?

    – Giorgio
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:19






  • 2





    @phoog You can apply for asylum wherever you want. It's only once you have applied that the Dublin system becomes relevant. Belgium will most likely try to force Germany (or whichever country issued the visa) to take you and process the application or possibly even to send you to Australia (that would be unrelated to Dublin obviously) but that does not mean they would be successful. Of course, entering through another country does make that somewhat more likely I would think, but the system is broken and unpredictable.

    – Relaxed
    Oct 7 '16 at 15:40








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When you say "Stay in Belgium", do you mean in a hotel, or that you want to start living there?

– CMaster
Oct 7 '16 at 14:28





When you say "Stay in Belgium", do you mean in a hotel, or that you want to start living there?

– CMaster
Oct 7 '16 at 14:28




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4





Isn't it the other way around? You are supposed to apply for asylum in the first EU country you reach. But since you already have asylum in Austria, you aren't going to be able to get it elsewhere (except in the unlikely event that Austria is no longer safe for you, I suppose). Anyway, asylum is off topic here, go to Expatriates.

– phoog
Oct 7 '16 at 15:04





Isn't it the other way around? You are supposed to apply for asylum in the first EU country you reach. But since you already have asylum in Austria, you aren't going to be able to get it elsewhere (except in the unlikely event that Austria is no longer safe for you, I suppose). Anyway, asylum is off topic here, go to Expatriates.

– phoog
Oct 7 '16 at 15:04




1




1





How many places does one need to be granted Asylum to be safe?

– CMaster
Oct 7 '16 at 15:05





How many places does one need to be granted Asylum to be safe?

– CMaster
Oct 7 '16 at 15:05




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3





@CMaster the OP is Australia; might he actually mean Austria?

– Giorgio
Oct 7 '16 at 15:19





@CMaster the OP is Australia; might he actually mean Austria?

– Giorgio
Oct 7 '16 at 15:19




2




2





@phoog You can apply for asylum wherever you want. It's only once you have applied that the Dublin system becomes relevant. Belgium will most likely try to force Germany (or whichever country issued the visa) to take you and process the application or possibly even to send you to Australia (that would be unrelated to Dublin obviously) but that does not mean they would be successful. Of course, entering through another country does make that somewhat more likely I would think, but the system is broken and unpredictable.

– Relaxed
Oct 7 '16 at 15:40






@phoog You can apply for asylum wherever you want. It's only once you have applied that the Dublin system becomes relevant. Belgium will most likely try to force Germany (or whichever country issued the visa) to take you and process the application or possibly even to send you to Australia (that would be unrelated to Dublin obviously) but that does not mean they would be successful. Of course, entering through another country does make that somewhat more likely I would think, but the system is broken and unpredictable.

– Relaxed
Oct 7 '16 at 15:40











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The answer is no, you don't need a visa to go to Germany with your Australian Travel Document.



From the Germany embassy in Australia:




The same applies to holders of Australian travel documents for
refugees (Convention of 28 July 1951) and stateless persons
(Convention of 28 September 1954): They can enter Germany without a
visa for an intended stay of up to 90 days, as long as at the time of
entry into Germany their travel document is still valid for at least 4
months.




Once you're in Germany you can freely travel in the Schengen area which includes Belgium.






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    The answer is no, you don't need a visa to go to Germany with your Australian Travel Document.



    From the Germany embassy in Australia:




    The same applies to holders of Australian travel documents for
    refugees (Convention of 28 July 1951) and stateless persons
    (Convention of 28 September 1954): They can enter Germany without a
    visa for an intended stay of up to 90 days, as long as at the time of
    entry into Germany their travel document is still valid for at least 4
    months.




    Once you're in Germany you can freely travel in the Schengen area which includes Belgium.






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      The answer is no, you don't need a visa to go to Germany with your Australian Travel Document.



      From the Germany embassy in Australia:




      The same applies to holders of Australian travel documents for
      refugees (Convention of 28 July 1951) and stateless persons
      (Convention of 28 September 1954): They can enter Germany without a
      visa for an intended stay of up to 90 days, as long as at the time of
      entry into Germany their travel document is still valid for at least 4
      months.




      Once you're in Germany you can freely travel in the Schengen area which includes Belgium.






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        The answer is no, you don't need a visa to go to Germany with your Australian Travel Document.



        From the Germany embassy in Australia:




        The same applies to holders of Australian travel documents for
        refugees (Convention of 28 July 1951) and stateless persons
        (Convention of 28 September 1954): They can enter Germany without a
        visa for an intended stay of up to 90 days, as long as at the time of
        entry into Germany their travel document is still valid for at least 4
        months.




        Once you're in Germany you can freely travel in the Schengen area which includes Belgium.






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        The answer is no, you don't need a visa to go to Germany with your Australian Travel Document.



        From the Germany embassy in Australia:




        The same applies to holders of Australian travel documents for
        refugees (Convention of 28 July 1951) and stateless persons
        (Convention of 28 September 1954): They can enter Germany without a
        visa for an intended stay of up to 90 days, as long as at the time of
        entry into Germany their travel document is still valid for at least 4
        months.




        Once you're in Germany you can freely travel in the Schengen area which includes Belgium.







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