Using APC kiosk with new ESTA/passport
I'm a Dutch citizen flying to Dulles from Amsterdam next week. I have visited the US multiple times, the last time being in 2012. Since then, I've renewed my passport (new passport number), and since an ESTA is only valid for 2 years, I've gotten a new ESTA clearance too.
I've done some research and found out that if you entered the US after 2008 under the VWP, and you've had your biometrics taken, which I have, you're eligible to use the automated passport kiosks. However, none of the answers I've found say if this is still the case if you got a new passport with a new passport number. Anyone who knows? Thanks in advance!
UPDATE 13-09-2016:
It worked! I went to the machines, did my thing and everything went flawlessly. So, at least at Dulles, it's confirmed that the kiosks work if you entered the US anytime after 2008.
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I'm a Dutch citizen flying to Dulles from Amsterdam next week. I have visited the US multiple times, the last time being in 2012. Since then, I've renewed my passport (new passport number), and since an ESTA is only valid for 2 years, I've gotten a new ESTA clearance too.
I've done some research and found out that if you entered the US after 2008 under the VWP, and you've had your biometrics taken, which I have, you're eligible to use the automated passport kiosks. However, none of the answers I've found say if this is still the case if you got a new passport with a new passport number. Anyone who knows? Thanks in advance!
UPDATE 13-09-2016:
It worked! I went to the machines, did my thing and everything went flawlessly. So, at least at Dulles, it's confirmed that the kiosks work if you entered the US anytime after 2008.
usa esta us-visa-waiver-program iad
asked Sep 3 '16 at 14:58
EMotionEMotion
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Curious, were there clear signs for X:d vs. non-X receipts? If so, how many questions did they ask at the non-X booth?
– Crazydre
Sep 14 '16 at 10:56
add a comment |
I'm a Dutch citizen flying to Dulles from Amsterdam next week. I have visited the US multiple times, the last time being in 2012. Since then, I've renewed my passport (new passport number), and since an ESTA is only valid for 2 years, I've gotten a new ESTA clearance too.
I've done some research and found out that if you entered the US after 2008 under the VWP, and you've had your biometrics taken, which I have, you're eligible to use the automated passport kiosks. However, none of the answers I've found say if this is still the case if you got a new passport with a new passport number. Anyone who knows? Thanks in advance!
UPDATE 13-09-2016:
It worked! I went to the machines, did my thing and everything went flawlessly. So, at least at Dulles, it's confirmed that the kiosks work if you entered the US anytime after 2008.
usa esta us-visa-waiver-program iad
asked Sep 3 '16 at 14:58
EMotionEMotion
1,217619
I'm a Dutch citizen flying to Dulles from Amsterdam next week. I have visited the US multiple times, the last time being in 2012. Since then, I've renewed my passport (new passport number), and since an ESTA is only valid for 2 years, I've gotten a new ESTA clearance too.
I've done some research and found out that if you entered the US after 2008 under the VWP, and you've had your biometrics taken, which I have, you're eligible to use the automated passport kiosks. However, none of the answers I've found say if this is still the case if you got a new passport with a new passport number. Anyone who knows? Thanks in advance!
UPDATE 13-09-2016:
It worked! I went to the machines, did my thing and everything went flawlessly. So, at least at Dulles, it's confirmed that the kiosks work if you entered the US anytime after 2008.
usa esta us-visa-waiver-program iad
usa esta us-visa-waiver-program iad
asked Sep 3 '16 at 14:58
EMotionEMotion
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asked Sep 3 '16 at 14:58
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edited Sep 13 '16 at 7:45
EMotion
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asked Sep 3 '16 at 14:58
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Curious, were there clear signs for X:d vs. non-X receipts? If so, how many questions did they ask at the non-X booth?
– Crazydre
Sep 14 '16 at 10:56
add a comment |
Curious, were there clear signs for X:d vs. non-X receipts? If so, how many questions did they ask at the non-X booth?
– Crazydre
Sep 14 '16 at 10:56
Curious, were there clear signs for X:d vs. non-X receipts? If so, how many questions did they ask at the non-X booth?
– Crazydre
Sep 14 '16 at 10:56
Curious, were there clear signs for X:d vs. non-X receipts? If so, how many questions did they ask at the non-X booth?
– Crazydre
Sep 14 '16 at 10:56
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It varies from airport to airport - many do disqualify you from using APC with a new passport (though never with simply a new ESTA). It's not about what the machines are capable of, but Airport policy.
However, more likely than not the machine will be able to process you regardless - worst Thing that can happen is you'll receive an X-marked receipt and be led into the X line, which is still a lot quicker than the visitors line most of the time.
So my advice, head for the APC queue and ignore any staff trying to direct you (walk confidently and follow the signs). Use APC as normal and go into the non-X or X line depending on the receipt.
UPDATE: just called Dulles - apparently their official policy is any VWP traveller who's entered the US since 2008 (irrelevant where, on what passport and in what Status) can use Passport Express (the Name for APC they use)
answered Sep 3 '16 at 16:56
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So it's airport dependent? Then I hope there's someone who knows specifically for Washington Dulles. If not, I guess I'll follow your advice and just try :)
– EMotion
Sep 3 '16 at 18:01
1
@EMotion Oh right, Dulles. Thought you said Dallas :P I was at Dulles in November 2014 on my new passport (but with entries on previous passports) and went for APC. Like I said, worst case is you'll get an X-marked receipt, but I actually didn't (I guess because they already have my Fingerprints and face in the system), so just went to the non-X stand where I was interviewed (as usual) and then stamped in.
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:23
@EMotion Pro tip: at Dulles they commonly call the APC kiosks Passport Express - so if you see references to that you know it's the same thing
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:32
2
@pnuts There are loudspeakers a LAX TBIT saying (using different wording) that VWP nationals Need to have visited the US on their current passport. However, the one time I went there on a new one I ignored it (though I was lucky not to get an X - if I saw clearly X:d pax have no dedicated queue, instead being lined up at the visitors queue)
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 22:50
1
@pnuts Yeah, that CBP link was one of the first things I read about it, and it just isn't clear and unambiguous information like you'd expect from an official source.
– EMotion
Sep 4 '16 at 0:40
|
show 7 more comments
At SEATAC about a month ago the policy being displayed on information screens (which I had a lot of time to read repeatedly as I queued) was that you had to go through full (normal) immigration if it was your first time entering the US with a new passport. I imagine this policy is the same at other US airports, but don't know for sure.
answered Sep 3 '16 at 17:41
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Varies like I said. At Miami ALL ESTA users, even those never having entered the US before, can use APC, while at JFK T4 and YYZ, it's also available to B1/B2 visa and (at YYZ) Border crossing Card holders. At PHL, however, only US citizens and permanent residents can use it. Just as some examples
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:18
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It varies from airport to airport - many do disqualify you from using APC with a new passport (though never with simply a new ESTA). It's not about what the machines are capable of, but Airport policy.
However, more likely than not the machine will be able to process you regardless - worst Thing that can happen is you'll receive an X-marked receipt and be led into the X line, which is still a lot quicker than the visitors line most of the time.
So my advice, head for the APC queue and ignore any staff trying to direct you (walk confidently and follow the signs). Use APC as normal and go into the non-X or X line depending on the receipt.
UPDATE: just called Dulles - apparently their official policy is any VWP traveller who's entered the US since 2008 (irrelevant where, on what passport and in what Status) can use Passport Express (the Name for APC they use)
answered Sep 3 '16 at 16:56
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So it's airport dependent? Then I hope there's someone who knows specifically for Washington Dulles. If not, I guess I'll follow your advice and just try :)
– EMotion
Sep 3 '16 at 18:01
1
@EMotion Oh right, Dulles. Thought you said Dallas :P I was at Dulles in November 2014 on my new passport (but with entries on previous passports) and went for APC. Like I said, worst case is you'll get an X-marked receipt, but I actually didn't (I guess because they already have my Fingerprints and face in the system), so just went to the non-X stand where I was interviewed (as usual) and then stamped in.
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:23
@EMotion Pro tip: at Dulles they commonly call the APC kiosks Passport Express - so if you see references to that you know it's the same thing
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:32
2
@pnuts There are loudspeakers a LAX TBIT saying (using different wording) that VWP nationals Need to have visited the US on their current passport. However, the one time I went there on a new one I ignored it (though I was lucky not to get an X - if I saw clearly X:d pax have no dedicated queue, instead being lined up at the visitors queue)
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 22:50
1
@pnuts Yeah, that CBP link was one of the first things I read about it, and it just isn't clear and unambiguous information like you'd expect from an official source.
– EMotion
Sep 4 '16 at 0:40
|
show 7 more comments
It varies from airport to airport - many do disqualify you from using APC with a new passport (though never with simply a new ESTA). It's not about what the machines are capable of, but Airport policy.
However, more likely than not the machine will be able to process you regardless - worst Thing that can happen is you'll receive an X-marked receipt and be led into the X line, which is still a lot quicker than the visitors line most of the time.
So my advice, head for the APC queue and ignore any staff trying to direct you (walk confidently and follow the signs). Use APC as normal and go into the non-X or X line depending on the receipt.
UPDATE: just called Dulles - apparently their official policy is any VWP traveller who's entered the US since 2008 (irrelevant where, on what passport and in what Status) can use Passport Express (the Name for APC they use)
answered Sep 3 '16 at 16:56
CrazydreCrazydre
53.4k12101237
So it's airport dependent? Then I hope there's someone who knows specifically for Washington Dulles. If not, I guess I'll follow your advice and just try :)
– EMotion
Sep 3 '16 at 18:01
1
@EMotion Oh right, Dulles. Thought you said Dallas :P I was at Dulles in November 2014 on my new passport (but with entries on previous passports) and went for APC. Like I said, worst case is you'll get an X-marked receipt, but I actually didn't (I guess because they already have my Fingerprints and face in the system), so just went to the non-X stand where I was interviewed (as usual) and then stamped in.
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:23
@EMotion Pro tip: at Dulles they commonly call the APC kiosks Passport Express - so if you see references to that you know it's the same thing
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:32
2
@pnuts There are loudspeakers a LAX TBIT saying (using different wording) that VWP nationals Need to have visited the US on their current passport. However, the one time I went there on a new one I ignored it (though I was lucky not to get an X - if I saw clearly X:d pax have no dedicated queue, instead being lined up at the visitors queue)
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 22:50
1
@pnuts Yeah, that CBP link was one of the first things I read about it, and it just isn't clear and unambiguous information like you'd expect from an official source.
– EMotion
Sep 4 '16 at 0:40
|
show 7 more comments
It varies from airport to airport - many do disqualify you from using APC with a new passport (though never with simply a new ESTA). It's not about what the machines are capable of, but Airport policy.
However, more likely than not the machine will be able to process you regardless - worst Thing that can happen is you'll receive an X-marked receipt and be led into the X line, which is still a lot quicker than the visitors line most of the time.
So my advice, head for the APC queue and ignore any staff trying to direct you (walk confidently and follow the signs). Use APC as normal and go into the non-X or X line depending on the receipt.
UPDATE: just called Dulles - apparently their official policy is any VWP traveller who's entered the US since 2008 (irrelevant where, on what passport and in what Status) can use Passport Express (the Name for APC they use)
answered Sep 3 '16 at 16:56
CrazydreCrazydre
53.4k12101237
It varies from airport to airport - many do disqualify you from using APC with a new passport (though never with simply a new ESTA). It's not about what the machines are capable of, but Airport policy.
However, more likely than not the machine will be able to process you regardless - worst Thing that can happen is you'll receive an X-marked receipt and be led into the X line, which is still a lot quicker than the visitors line most of the time.
So my advice, head for the APC queue and ignore any staff trying to direct you (walk confidently and follow the signs). Use APC as normal and go into the non-X or X line depending on the receipt.
UPDATE: just called Dulles - apparently their official policy is any VWP traveller who's entered the US since 2008 (irrelevant where, on what passport and in what Status) can use Passport Express (the Name for APC they use)
answered Sep 3 '16 at 16:56
CrazydreCrazydre
53.4k12101237
edited Sep 3 '16 at 18:56
answered Sep 3 '16 at 16:56
CrazydreCrazydre
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answered Sep 3 '16 at 16:56
CrazydreCrazydre
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answered Sep 3 '16 at 16:56
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So it's airport dependent? Then I hope there's someone who knows specifically for Washington Dulles. If not, I guess I'll follow your advice and just try :)
– EMotion
Sep 3 '16 at 18:01
1
@EMotion Oh right, Dulles. Thought you said Dallas :P I was at Dulles in November 2014 on my new passport (but with entries on previous passports) and went for APC. Like I said, worst case is you'll get an X-marked receipt, but I actually didn't (I guess because they already have my Fingerprints and face in the system), so just went to the non-X stand where I was interviewed (as usual) and then stamped in.
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:23
@EMotion Pro tip: at Dulles they commonly call the APC kiosks Passport Express - so if you see references to that you know it's the same thing
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:32
2
@pnuts There are loudspeakers a LAX TBIT saying (using different wording) that VWP nationals Need to have visited the US on their current passport. However, the one time I went there on a new one I ignored it (though I was lucky not to get an X - if I saw clearly X:d pax have no dedicated queue, instead being lined up at the visitors queue)
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 22:50
1
@pnuts Yeah, that CBP link was one of the first things I read about it, and it just isn't clear and unambiguous information like you'd expect from an official source.
– EMotion
Sep 4 '16 at 0:40
|
show 7 more comments
So it's airport dependent? Then I hope there's someone who knows specifically for Washington Dulles. If not, I guess I'll follow your advice and just try :)
– EMotion
Sep 3 '16 at 18:01
1
@EMotion Oh right, Dulles. Thought you said Dallas :P I was at Dulles in November 2014 on my new passport (but with entries on previous passports) and went for APC. Like I said, worst case is you'll get an X-marked receipt, but I actually didn't (I guess because they already have my Fingerprints and face in the system), so just went to the non-X stand where I was interviewed (as usual) and then stamped in.
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:23
@EMotion Pro tip: at Dulles they commonly call the APC kiosks Passport Express - so if you see references to that you know it's the same thing
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:32
2
@pnuts There are loudspeakers a LAX TBIT saying (using different wording) that VWP nationals Need to have visited the US on their current passport. However, the one time I went there on a new one I ignored it (though I was lucky not to get an X - if I saw clearly X:d pax have no dedicated queue, instead being lined up at the visitors queue)
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 22:50
1
@pnuts Yeah, that CBP link was one of the first things I read about it, and it just isn't clear and unambiguous information like you'd expect from an official source.
– EMotion
Sep 4 '16 at 0:40
So it's airport dependent? Then I hope there's someone who knows specifically for Washington Dulles. If not, I guess I'll follow your advice and just try :)
– EMotion
Sep 3 '16 at 18:01
So it's airport dependent? Then I hope there's someone who knows specifically for Washington Dulles. If not, I guess I'll follow your advice and just try :)
– EMotion
Sep 3 '16 at 18:01
1
1
@EMotion Oh right, Dulles. Thought you said Dallas :P I was at Dulles in November 2014 on my new passport (but with entries on previous passports) and went for APC. Like I said, worst case is you'll get an X-marked receipt, but I actually didn't (I guess because they already have my Fingerprints and face in the system), so just went to the non-X stand where I was interviewed (as usual) and then stamped in.
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:23
@EMotion Oh right, Dulles. Thought you said Dallas :P I was at Dulles in November 2014 on my new passport (but with entries on previous passports) and went for APC. Like I said, worst case is you'll get an X-marked receipt, but I actually didn't (I guess because they already have my Fingerprints and face in the system), so just went to the non-X stand where I was interviewed (as usual) and then stamped in.
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:23
@EMotion Pro tip: at Dulles they commonly call the APC kiosks Passport Express - so if you see references to that you know it's the same thing
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:32
@EMotion Pro tip: at Dulles they commonly call the APC kiosks Passport Express - so if you see references to that you know it's the same thing
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:32
2
2
@pnuts There are loudspeakers a LAX TBIT saying (using different wording) that VWP nationals Need to have visited the US on their current passport. However, the one time I went there on a new one I ignored it (though I was lucky not to get an X - if I saw clearly X:d pax have no dedicated queue, instead being lined up at the visitors queue)
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 22:50
@pnuts There are loudspeakers a LAX TBIT saying (using different wording) that VWP nationals Need to have visited the US on their current passport. However, the one time I went there on a new one I ignored it (though I was lucky not to get an X - if I saw clearly X:d pax have no dedicated queue, instead being lined up at the visitors queue)
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 22:50
1
1
@pnuts Yeah, that CBP link was one of the first things I read about it, and it just isn't clear and unambiguous information like you'd expect from an official source.
– EMotion
Sep 4 '16 at 0:40
@pnuts Yeah, that CBP link was one of the first things I read about it, and it just isn't clear and unambiguous information like you'd expect from an official source.
– EMotion
Sep 4 '16 at 0:40
|
show 7 more comments
At SEATAC about a month ago the policy being displayed on information screens (which I had a lot of time to read repeatedly as I queued) was that you had to go through full (normal) immigration if it was your first time entering the US with a new passport. I imagine this policy is the same at other US airports, but don't know for sure.
answered Sep 3 '16 at 17:41
A EA E
6,1322339
2
Varies like I said. At Miami ALL ESTA users, even those never having entered the US before, can use APC, while at JFK T4 and YYZ, it's also available to B1/B2 visa and (at YYZ) Border crossing Card holders. At PHL, however, only US citizens and permanent residents can use it. Just as some examples
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:18
add a comment |
At SEATAC about a month ago the policy being displayed on information screens (which I had a lot of time to read repeatedly as I queued) was that you had to go through full (normal) immigration if it was your first time entering the US with a new passport. I imagine this policy is the same at other US airports, but don't know for sure.
answered Sep 3 '16 at 17:41
A EA E
6,1322339
2
Varies like I said. At Miami ALL ESTA users, even those never having entered the US before, can use APC, while at JFK T4 and YYZ, it's also available to B1/B2 visa and (at YYZ) Border crossing Card holders. At PHL, however, only US citizens and permanent residents can use it. Just as some examples
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:18
add a comment |
At SEATAC about a month ago the policy being displayed on information screens (which I had a lot of time to read repeatedly as I queued) was that you had to go through full (normal) immigration if it was your first time entering the US with a new passport. I imagine this policy is the same at other US airports, but don't know for sure.
answered Sep 3 '16 at 17:41
A EA E
6,1322339
At SEATAC about a month ago the policy being displayed on information screens (which I had a lot of time to read repeatedly as I queued) was that you had to go through full (normal) immigration if it was your first time entering the US with a new passport. I imagine this policy is the same at other US airports, but don't know for sure.
answered Sep 3 '16 at 17:41
A EA E
6,1322339
answered Sep 3 '16 at 17:41
A EA E
6,1322339
answered Sep 3 '16 at 17:41
A EA E
6,1322339
answered Sep 3 '16 at 17:41
A EA E
6,1322339
6,1322339
2
Varies like I said. At Miami ALL ESTA users, even those never having entered the US before, can use APC, while at JFK T4 and YYZ, it's also available to B1/B2 visa and (at YYZ) Border crossing Card holders. At PHL, however, only US citizens and permanent residents can use it. Just as some examples
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:18
add a comment |
2
Varies like I said. At Miami ALL ESTA users, even those never having entered the US before, can use APC, while at JFK T4 and YYZ, it's also available to B1/B2 visa and (at YYZ) Border crossing Card holders. At PHL, however, only US citizens and permanent residents can use it. Just as some examples
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:18
2
2
Varies like I said. At Miami ALL ESTA users, even those never having entered the US before, can use APC, while at JFK T4 and YYZ, it's also available to B1/B2 visa and (at YYZ) Border crossing Card holders. At PHL, however, only US citizens and permanent residents can use it. Just as some examples
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:18
Varies like I said. At Miami ALL ESTA users, even those never having entered the US before, can use APC, while at JFK T4 and YYZ, it's also available to B1/B2 visa and (at YYZ) Border crossing Card holders. At PHL, however, only US citizens and permanent residents can use it. Just as some examples
– Crazydre
Sep 3 '16 at 18:18
add a comment |
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Curious, were there clear signs for X:d vs. non-X receipts? If so, how many questions did they ask at the non-X booth?
– Crazydre
Sep 14 '16 at 10:56