Consequences for canceling flight to home country?
I'm a US citizen currently visiting the UK on a visa exemption (valid up to 6 months). I want to leave the UK and travel to mainland Europe a few times. My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365, though I am hoping to leave and re-enter a few times. I'm hoping to travel outside the UK next month for a few weeks and when I attempt to re-enter I understand that I'll be subject to the full entry process.
The last time I entered, the Immigration Officer indicated that he thought I would be denied entry if I tried again, without having a ticket home. I'm serious about demonstrating my ability to leave, and am trying to do things legally.
I found an inexpensive one-way flight back to USA that's within my 6 month visit and am thinking of purchasing the flight as a way of demonstrating my intent and ability to leave the UK. It is a non-refundable fare, and I may not end up using the ticket for my final departure from UK.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
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I'm a US citizen currently visiting the UK on a visa exemption (valid up to 6 months). I want to leave the UK and travel to mainland Europe a few times. My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365, though I am hoping to leave and re-enter a few times. I'm hoping to travel outside the UK next month for a few weeks and when I attempt to re-enter I understand that I'll be subject to the full entry process.
The last time I entered, the Immigration Officer indicated that he thought I would be denied entry if I tried again, without having a ticket home. I'm serious about demonstrating my ability to leave, and am trying to do things legally.
I found an inexpensive one-way flight back to USA that's within my 6 month visit and am thinking of purchasing the flight as a way of demonstrating my intent and ability to leave the UK. It is a non-refundable fare, and I may not end up using the ticket for my final departure from UK.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
visas uk us-citizens visa-free-entry
My thinking here is that getting a ticket to my home country rather than just across the channel would demonstrate that I'm not attempting to live in the UK by successive visits.
– CJ Hildegaard
Nov 28 '16 at 15:30
It doesn't really demonstrate that. Most US citizens would have enough money to buy such a ticket and let it go to waste, if they seriously wanted to stay in the UK and want to convince customs otherwise.
– gnasher729
Aug 20 '17 at 23:03
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I'm a US citizen currently visiting the UK on a visa exemption (valid up to 6 months). I want to leave the UK and travel to mainland Europe a few times. My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365, though I am hoping to leave and re-enter a few times. I'm hoping to travel outside the UK next month for a few weeks and when I attempt to re-enter I understand that I'll be subject to the full entry process.
The last time I entered, the Immigration Officer indicated that he thought I would be denied entry if I tried again, without having a ticket home. I'm serious about demonstrating my ability to leave, and am trying to do things legally.
I found an inexpensive one-way flight back to USA that's within my 6 month visit and am thinking of purchasing the flight as a way of demonstrating my intent and ability to leave the UK. It is a non-refundable fare, and I may not end up using the ticket for my final departure from UK.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
visas uk us-citizens visa-free-entry
I'm a US citizen currently visiting the UK on a visa exemption (valid up to 6 months). I want to leave the UK and travel to mainland Europe a few times. My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365, though I am hoping to leave and re-enter a few times. I'm hoping to travel outside the UK next month for a few weeks and when I attempt to re-enter I understand that I'll be subject to the full entry process.
The last time I entered, the Immigration Officer indicated that he thought I would be denied entry if I tried again, without having a ticket home. I'm serious about demonstrating my ability to leave, and am trying to do things legally.
I found an inexpensive one-way flight back to USA that's within my 6 month visit and am thinking of purchasing the flight as a way of demonstrating my intent and ability to leave the UK. It is a non-refundable fare, and I may not end up using the ticket for my final departure from UK.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
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My thinking here is that getting a ticket to my home country rather than just across the channel would demonstrate that I'm not attempting to live in the UK by successive visits.
– CJ Hildegaard
Nov 28 '16 at 15:30
It doesn't really demonstrate that. Most US citizens would have enough money to buy such a ticket and let it go to waste, if they seriously wanted to stay in the UK and want to convince customs otherwise.
– gnasher729
Aug 20 '17 at 23:03
add a comment |
My thinking here is that getting a ticket to my home country rather than just across the channel would demonstrate that I'm not attempting to live in the UK by successive visits.
– CJ Hildegaard
Nov 28 '16 at 15:30
It doesn't really demonstrate that. Most US citizens would have enough money to buy such a ticket and let it go to waste, if they seriously wanted to stay in the UK and want to convince customs otherwise.
– gnasher729
Aug 20 '17 at 23:03
My thinking here is that getting a ticket to my home country rather than just across the channel would demonstrate that I'm not attempting to live in the UK by successive visits.
– CJ Hildegaard
Nov 28 '16 at 15:30
My thinking here is that getting a ticket to my home country rather than just across the channel would demonstrate that I'm not attempting to live in the UK by successive visits.
– CJ Hildegaard
Nov 28 '16 at 15:30
It doesn't really demonstrate that. Most US citizens would have enough money to buy such a ticket and let it go to waste, if they seriously wanted to stay in the UK and want to convince customs otherwise.
– gnasher729
Aug 20 '17 at 23:03
It doesn't really demonstrate that. Most US citizens would have enough money to buy such a ticket and let it go to waste, if they seriously wanted to stay in the UK and want to convince customs otherwise.
– gnasher729
Aug 20 '17 at 23:03
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You're a non-visa national (US citizen). You want to "channel hop" a few times and to carry a flight ticket to the USA as evidence of your intent to abide by the rules.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there
be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
There are two things to be aware of when reentering the UK from the continent...
If the Immigration Officer picks up on 'negative waves', he can give you a coded landing. It's a short-hand notation that's hand written on the face of your entry stamp. Coded landings come in all shapes and forms and I always tell people to ignore them. To you it would appear as a number, or just an illegible scribble. There's one type of coded landing that says the IO picked up some 'negative waves' and suspected that you might be trying to abuse the rules, but he didn't have anything concrete to support it. When the next IO sees that type of coded landing and you are still in a channel hopping scenario, you may get selected for secondary screening (that's a bad thing, especially at an arrival from the continent).
The other thing that can happen if an Immigration Officer picks up 'negative waves' and can't find anything immediately amiss. He can look at your ticket and curtail your leave to its departure date. If you protest by explaining that your ticket is merely a contrivance, he will get upset (that's a very bad thing). It means the curtailment scenario is basically a no-win situation for you.
The other things that can happen are (a) temporary admission, (b) full leave-to-enter, or (c) port side removal. The upside is when (b) happens because you get a brand-new leave-to-enter which expires in 6 months, regardless of how long you have been in the UK previously. There's lots of discussion about these alternatives in the archives here you you can study up on. Search on the 'removals' tag.
The 'implicit' question here is about cancelling your ticket once you are land side. There are no 'flags' or 'consequences' for doing this. People do it all the time. The exception is if you get trapped in a totally unrelated situation where somebody like the police or whoever notices that you have no provisions for onward travel, or worse that you used a contrivance to enter the country (i.e., that you are an illegal entrant). So always watch closely during your landing interview to see if the IO writes anything on the back of your landing card. Also remember that your passport is linked to the credit cards you used to purchase tickets (See Statutory Instrument 2008/5).
And finally, this detail...
My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365
There are no rules that refer to a day-count or that specify a given "X" days out of "Y" days formula. The only legal point of reference is Appendix V 4.2 (b)...
(b) will not live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or
successive visits, or make the UK their main home; and
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You're a non-visa national (US citizen). You want to "channel hop" a few times and to carry a flight ticket to the USA as evidence of your intent to abide by the rules.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there
be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
There are two things to be aware of when reentering the UK from the continent...
If the Immigration Officer picks up on 'negative waves', he can give you a coded landing. It's a short-hand notation that's hand written on the face of your entry stamp. Coded landings come in all shapes and forms and I always tell people to ignore them. To you it would appear as a number, or just an illegible scribble. There's one type of coded landing that says the IO picked up some 'negative waves' and suspected that you might be trying to abuse the rules, but he didn't have anything concrete to support it. When the next IO sees that type of coded landing and you are still in a channel hopping scenario, you may get selected for secondary screening (that's a bad thing, especially at an arrival from the continent).
The other thing that can happen if an Immigration Officer picks up 'negative waves' and can't find anything immediately amiss. He can look at your ticket and curtail your leave to its departure date. If you protest by explaining that your ticket is merely a contrivance, he will get upset (that's a very bad thing). It means the curtailment scenario is basically a no-win situation for you.
The other things that can happen are (a) temporary admission, (b) full leave-to-enter, or (c) port side removal. The upside is when (b) happens because you get a brand-new leave-to-enter which expires in 6 months, regardless of how long you have been in the UK previously. There's lots of discussion about these alternatives in the archives here you you can study up on. Search on the 'removals' tag.
The 'implicit' question here is about cancelling your ticket once you are land side. There are no 'flags' or 'consequences' for doing this. People do it all the time. The exception is if you get trapped in a totally unrelated situation where somebody like the police or whoever notices that you have no provisions for onward travel, or worse that you used a contrivance to enter the country (i.e., that you are an illegal entrant). So always watch closely during your landing interview to see if the IO writes anything on the back of your landing card. Also remember that your passport is linked to the credit cards you used to purchase tickets (See Statutory Instrument 2008/5).
And finally, this detail...
My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365
There are no rules that refer to a day-count or that specify a given "X" days out of "Y" days formula. The only legal point of reference is Appendix V 4.2 (b)...
(b) will not live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or
successive visits, or make the UK their main home; and
add a comment |
You're a non-visa national (US citizen). You want to "channel hop" a few times and to carry a flight ticket to the USA as evidence of your intent to abide by the rules.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there
be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
There are two things to be aware of when reentering the UK from the continent...
If the Immigration Officer picks up on 'negative waves', he can give you a coded landing. It's a short-hand notation that's hand written on the face of your entry stamp. Coded landings come in all shapes and forms and I always tell people to ignore them. To you it would appear as a number, or just an illegible scribble. There's one type of coded landing that says the IO picked up some 'negative waves' and suspected that you might be trying to abuse the rules, but he didn't have anything concrete to support it. When the next IO sees that type of coded landing and you are still in a channel hopping scenario, you may get selected for secondary screening (that's a bad thing, especially at an arrival from the continent).
The other thing that can happen if an Immigration Officer picks up 'negative waves' and can't find anything immediately amiss. He can look at your ticket and curtail your leave to its departure date. If you protest by explaining that your ticket is merely a contrivance, he will get upset (that's a very bad thing). It means the curtailment scenario is basically a no-win situation for you.
The other things that can happen are (a) temporary admission, (b) full leave-to-enter, or (c) port side removal. The upside is when (b) happens because you get a brand-new leave-to-enter which expires in 6 months, regardless of how long you have been in the UK previously. There's lots of discussion about these alternatives in the archives here you you can study up on. Search on the 'removals' tag.
The 'implicit' question here is about cancelling your ticket once you are land side. There are no 'flags' or 'consequences' for doing this. People do it all the time. The exception is if you get trapped in a totally unrelated situation where somebody like the police or whoever notices that you have no provisions for onward travel, or worse that you used a contrivance to enter the country (i.e., that you are an illegal entrant). So always watch closely during your landing interview to see if the IO writes anything on the back of your landing card. Also remember that your passport is linked to the credit cards you used to purchase tickets (See Statutory Instrument 2008/5).
And finally, this detail...
My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365
There are no rules that refer to a day-count or that specify a given "X" days out of "Y" days formula. The only legal point of reference is Appendix V 4.2 (b)...
(b) will not live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or
successive visits, or make the UK their main home; and
add a comment |
You're a non-visa national (US citizen). You want to "channel hop" a few times and to carry a flight ticket to the USA as evidence of your intent to abide by the rules.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there
be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
There are two things to be aware of when reentering the UK from the continent...
If the Immigration Officer picks up on 'negative waves', he can give you a coded landing. It's a short-hand notation that's hand written on the face of your entry stamp. Coded landings come in all shapes and forms and I always tell people to ignore them. To you it would appear as a number, or just an illegible scribble. There's one type of coded landing that says the IO picked up some 'negative waves' and suspected that you might be trying to abuse the rules, but he didn't have anything concrete to support it. When the next IO sees that type of coded landing and you are still in a channel hopping scenario, you may get selected for secondary screening (that's a bad thing, especially at an arrival from the continent).
The other thing that can happen if an Immigration Officer picks up 'negative waves' and can't find anything immediately amiss. He can look at your ticket and curtail your leave to its departure date. If you protest by explaining that your ticket is merely a contrivance, he will get upset (that's a very bad thing). It means the curtailment scenario is basically a no-win situation for you.
The other things that can happen are (a) temporary admission, (b) full leave-to-enter, or (c) port side removal. The upside is when (b) happens because you get a brand-new leave-to-enter which expires in 6 months, regardless of how long you have been in the UK previously. There's lots of discussion about these alternatives in the archives here you you can study up on. Search on the 'removals' tag.
The 'implicit' question here is about cancelling your ticket once you are land side. There are no 'flags' or 'consequences' for doing this. People do it all the time. The exception is if you get trapped in a totally unrelated situation where somebody like the police or whoever notices that you have no provisions for onward travel, or worse that you used a contrivance to enter the country (i.e., that you are an illegal entrant). So always watch closely during your landing interview to see if the IO writes anything on the back of your landing card. Also remember that your passport is linked to the credit cards you used to purchase tickets (See Statutory Instrument 2008/5).
And finally, this detail...
My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365
There are no rules that refer to a day-count or that specify a given "X" days out of "Y" days formula. The only legal point of reference is Appendix V 4.2 (b)...
(b) will not live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or
successive visits, or make the UK their main home; and
You're a non-visa national (US citizen). You want to "channel hop" a few times and to carry a flight ticket to the USA as evidence of your intent to abide by the rules.
If I follow through with this, and cancel my ticket later, will there
be any consequences or flags with the Home Office for doing so?
There are two things to be aware of when reentering the UK from the continent...
If the Immigration Officer picks up on 'negative waves', he can give you a coded landing. It's a short-hand notation that's hand written on the face of your entry stamp. Coded landings come in all shapes and forms and I always tell people to ignore them. To you it would appear as a number, or just an illegible scribble. There's one type of coded landing that says the IO picked up some 'negative waves' and suspected that you might be trying to abuse the rules, but he didn't have anything concrete to support it. When the next IO sees that type of coded landing and you are still in a channel hopping scenario, you may get selected for secondary screening (that's a bad thing, especially at an arrival from the continent).
The other thing that can happen if an Immigration Officer picks up 'negative waves' and can't find anything immediately amiss. He can look at your ticket and curtail your leave to its departure date. If you protest by explaining that your ticket is merely a contrivance, he will get upset (that's a very bad thing). It means the curtailment scenario is basically a no-win situation for you.
The other things that can happen are (a) temporary admission, (b) full leave-to-enter, or (c) port side removal. The upside is when (b) happens because you get a brand-new leave-to-enter which expires in 6 months, regardless of how long you have been in the UK previously. There's lots of discussion about these alternatives in the archives here you you can study up on. Search on the 'removals' tag.
The 'implicit' question here is about cancelling your ticket once you are land side. There are no 'flags' or 'consequences' for doing this. People do it all the time. The exception is if you get trapped in a totally unrelated situation where somebody like the police or whoever notices that you have no provisions for onward travel, or worse that you used a contrivance to enter the country (i.e., that you are an illegal entrant). So always watch closely during your landing interview to see if the IO writes anything on the back of your landing card. Also remember that your passport is linked to the credit cards you used to purchase tickets (See Statutory Instrument 2008/5).
And finally, this detail...
My intention is to remain in the UK no more than 180 days out of 365
There are no rules that refer to a day-count or that specify a given "X" days out of "Y" days formula. The only legal point of reference is Appendix V 4.2 (b)...
(b) will not live in the UK for extended periods through frequent or
successive visits, or make the UK their main home; and
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My thinking here is that getting a ticket to my home country rather than just across the channel would demonstrate that I'm not attempting to live in the UK by successive visits.
– CJ Hildegaard
Nov 28 '16 at 15:30
It doesn't really demonstrate that. Most US citizens would have enough money to buy such a ticket and let it go to waste, if they seriously wanted to stay in the UK and want to convince customs otherwise.
– gnasher729
Aug 20 '17 at 23:03