Validity of the Schengen visa when having a residence sticker in the passport (The Netherlands) [closed]
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I had a Dutch residence permit which expired this year. I applied for the change of purpose of stay to get a new one. In the meantime, I got a residence sticker (VAA, or Verblijfsaantekeningen). My application was recently rejected. I'm going to file an appeal, and while it is processed I can legally stay in NL and get another sticker in the passport. This sticker confirms my right to stay in the country but doesn't allow me to enter the Schengen area if I leave it.
In addition to that, I have a long-term multi-entry Schengen tourist visa Type C issued in 2015 or so, which expires in November this year, so technically it is still valid. But I was shocked by an employee at the IND (Dutch migration authority) who said that this visa became automatically invalid when I got a residence sticker! She added that if a border officer saw the sticker in addition to my Schengen visa, they would refuse my entry. Couldn’t get any reference to laws/bylaws from her.
Another day I asked a different IND employee and explained the whole situation. He was surprised about the supposition that the visa became void. Then he consulted someone and returned back a bit confused saying that the situation was unclear and depended on the specific officer (!) who checks my passport at the border, so he couldn’t say for sure whether the visa is automatically cancelled or still valid, and what would happen to me at the passport control.
Could someone comment on this topic? Is the visa valid until the stated date of expiration, or such stickers in the passport invalidate it automatically? Obviously, I tried to google but my situation seems to be not very typical…
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closed as off-topic by Giorgio, Jim MacKenzie, Thorsten S., Ali Awan, gmauch Aug 20 at 3:15
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I had a Dutch residence permit which expired this year. I applied for the change of purpose of stay to get a new one. In the meantime, I got a residence sticker (VAA, or Verblijfsaantekeningen). My application was recently rejected. I'm going to file an appeal, and while it is processed I can legally stay in NL and get another sticker in the passport. This sticker confirms my right to stay in the country but doesn't allow me to enter the Schengen area if I leave it.
In addition to that, I have a long-term multi-entry Schengen tourist visa Type C issued in 2015 or so, which expires in November this year, so technically it is still valid. But I was shocked by an employee at the IND (Dutch migration authority) who said that this visa became automatically invalid when I got a residence sticker! She added that if a border officer saw the sticker in addition to my Schengen visa, they would refuse my entry. Couldn’t get any reference to laws/bylaws from her.
Another day I asked a different IND employee and explained the whole situation. He was surprised about the supposition that the visa became void. Then he consulted someone and returned back a bit confused saying that the situation was unclear and depended on the specific officer (!) who checks my passport at the border, so he couldn’t say for sure whether the visa is automatically cancelled or still valid, and what would happen to me at the passport control.
Could someone comment on this topic? Is the visa valid until the stated date of expiration, or such stickers in the passport invalidate it automatically? Obviously, I tried to google but my situation seems to be not very typical…
schengen
asked Jun 1 at 22:45
user78619
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closed as off-topic by Giorgio, Jim MacKenzie, Thorsten S., Ali Awan, gmauch Aug 20 at 3:15
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Giorgio, Jim MacKenzie, Thorsten S., Ali Awan, gmauch
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Are you sure they weren't trying to tell you that it depends on which country's officer checks your passport at the border (that is, on where you try to enter the Schengen area)?
– phoog
Jun 1 at 22:58
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Yes, absolutely! The first lady said: "Your visa is not valid any more, now you have a sticker". The second guy said the decision to allow/reject depended on a specific officer, meaning how they understand the laws, not the country of entrance.
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Jun 1 at 23:17
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I had a Dutch residence permit which expired this year. I applied for the change of purpose of stay to get a new one. In the meantime, I got a residence sticker (VAA, or Verblijfsaantekeningen). My application was recently rejected. I'm going to file an appeal, and while it is processed I can legally stay in NL and get another sticker in the passport. This sticker confirms my right to stay in the country but doesn't allow me to enter the Schengen area if I leave it.
In addition to that, I have a long-term multi-entry Schengen tourist visa Type C issued in 2015 or so, which expires in November this year, so technically it is still valid. But I was shocked by an employee at the IND (Dutch migration authority) who said that this visa became automatically invalid when I got a residence sticker! She added that if a border officer saw the sticker in addition to my Schengen visa, they would refuse my entry. Couldn’t get any reference to laws/bylaws from her.
Another day I asked a different IND employee and explained the whole situation. He was surprised about the supposition that the visa became void. Then he consulted someone and returned back a bit confused saying that the situation was unclear and depended on the specific officer (!) who checks my passport at the border, so he couldn’t say for sure whether the visa is automatically cancelled or still valid, and what would happen to me at the passport control.
Could someone comment on this topic? Is the visa valid until the stated date of expiration, or such stickers in the passport invalidate it automatically? Obviously, I tried to google but my situation seems to be not very typical…
schengen
asked Jun 1 at 22:45
user78619
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I had a Dutch residence permit which expired this year. I applied for the change of purpose of stay to get a new one. In the meantime, I got a residence sticker (VAA, or Verblijfsaantekeningen). My application was recently rejected. I'm going to file an appeal, and while it is processed I can legally stay in NL and get another sticker in the passport. This sticker confirms my right to stay in the country but doesn't allow me to enter the Schengen area if I leave it.
In addition to that, I have a long-term multi-entry Schengen tourist visa Type C issued in 2015 or so, which expires in November this year, so technically it is still valid. But I was shocked by an employee at the IND (Dutch migration authority) who said that this visa became automatically invalid when I got a residence sticker! She added that if a border officer saw the sticker in addition to my Schengen visa, they would refuse my entry. Couldn’t get any reference to laws/bylaws from her.
Another day I asked a different IND employee and explained the whole situation. He was surprised about the supposition that the visa became void. Then he consulted someone and returned back a bit confused saying that the situation was unclear and depended on the specific officer (!) who checks my passport at the border, so he couldn’t say for sure whether the visa is automatically cancelled or still valid, and what would happen to me at the passport control.
Could someone comment on this topic? Is the visa valid until the stated date of expiration, or such stickers in the passport invalidate it automatically? Obviously, I tried to google but my situation seems to be not very typical…
schengen
asked Jun 1 at 22:45
user78619
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asked Jun 1 at 22:45
user78619
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asked Jun 1 at 22:45
user78619
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asked Jun 1 at 22:45
user78619
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closed as off-topic by Giorgio, Jim MacKenzie, Thorsten S., Ali Awan, gmauch Aug 20 at 3:15
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Giorgio, Jim MacKenzie, Thorsten S., Ali Awan, gmauch
closed as off-topic by Giorgio, Jim MacKenzie, Thorsten S., Ali Awan, gmauch Aug 20 at 3:15
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Giorgio, Jim MacKenzie, Thorsten S., Ali Awan, gmauch
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Are you sure they weren't trying to tell you that it depends on which country's officer checks your passport at the border (that is, on where you try to enter the Schengen area)?
– phoog
Jun 1 at 22:58
1
Yes, absolutely! The first lady said: "Your visa is not valid any more, now you have a sticker". The second guy said the decision to allow/reject depended on a specific officer, meaning how they understand the laws, not the country of entrance.
– user78619
Jun 1 at 23:17
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Are you sure they weren't trying to tell you that it depends on which country's officer checks your passport at the border (that is, on where you try to enter the Schengen area)?
– phoog
Jun 1 at 22:58
1
Yes, absolutely! The first lady said: "Your visa is not valid any more, now you have a sticker". The second guy said the decision to allow/reject depended on a specific officer, meaning how they understand the laws, not the country of entrance.
– user78619
Jun 1 at 23:17
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Are you sure they weren't trying to tell you that it depends on which country's officer checks your passport at the border (that is, on where you try to enter the Schengen area)?
– phoog
Jun 1 at 22:58
Are you sure they weren't trying to tell you that it depends on which country's officer checks your passport at the border (that is, on where you try to enter the Schengen area)?
– phoog
Jun 1 at 22:58
1
1
Yes, absolutely! The first lady said: "Your visa is not valid any more, now you have a sticker". The second guy said the decision to allow/reject depended on a specific officer, meaning how they understand the laws, not the country of entrance.
– user78619
Jun 1 at 23:17
Yes, absolutely! The first lady said: "Your visa is not valid any more, now you have a sticker". The second guy said the decision to allow/reject depended on a specific officer, meaning how they understand the laws, not the country of entrance.
– user78619
Jun 1 at 23:17
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Are you sure they weren't trying to tell you that it depends on which country's officer checks your passport at the border (that is, on where you try to enter the Schengen area)?
– phoog
Jun 1 at 22:58
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Yes, absolutely! The first lady said: "Your visa is not valid any more, now you have a sticker". The second guy said the decision to allow/reject depended on a specific officer, meaning how they understand the laws, not the country of entrance.
– user78619
Jun 1 at 23:17