Wrong date of birth and year in passport
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In my mother's passport her date of birth is 25 November 1962 but her actual date of birth is 26 November 1963. My mother's elder sister's date of birth in her passport is 23 August 1962 which is correct. This means my mother and her sister have the same birth year in their passports. I want my mother to visit me in Australia but because of the issue of birth year she is not applying. Even her school document does not have the correct birth year.
My aunt has been to Australia so all her details are with the embassy and if my mom applies for a visa now, it might create a problem. Any suggestion as to what we can do??
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In my mother's passport her date of birth is 25 November 1962 but her actual date of birth is 26 November 1963. My mother's elder sister's date of birth in her passport is 23 August 1962 which is correct. This means my mother and her sister have the same birth year in their passports. I want my mother to visit me in Australia but because of the issue of birth year she is not applying. Even her school document does not have the correct birth year.
My aunt has been to Australia so all her details are with the embassy and if my mom applies for a visa now, it might create a problem. Any suggestion as to what we can do??
passports indian-citizens
1
I don't get why the details of "Mausi" being in the database of the embassy would create problems for your mother - since "Mausi"s data were correct, the embassy should only have correct information?
– DCTLib
Mar 7 '16 at 11:07
3
@DCTLib Just FYI: The word "Mausi" means "Aunt" in the Hindi language :-)
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:03
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@DCTLib: I think the questioner's mother's fear is that the Australian authorities will think to themselves, "your sister's DOB is 23rd August 1962, so it's biologically implausible that your DOB should be 25th November 1962". I have some doubts whether they'd even take into account that they have a sister on record, let alone worry about the DOB, but I believe that's why they think it could be a problem.
– Steve Jessop
Mar 7 '16 at 14:58
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What official evidence do you have that your mother's "actual date of birth" is 26 November 1963?
– Floris
Mar 7 '16 at 23:22
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In my mother's passport her date of birth is 25 November 1962 but her actual date of birth is 26 November 1963. My mother's elder sister's date of birth in her passport is 23 August 1962 which is correct. This means my mother and her sister have the same birth year in their passports. I want my mother to visit me in Australia but because of the issue of birth year she is not applying. Even her school document does not have the correct birth year.
My aunt has been to Australia so all her details are with the embassy and if my mom applies for a visa now, it might create a problem. Any suggestion as to what we can do??
passports indian-citizens
In my mother's passport her date of birth is 25 November 1962 but her actual date of birth is 26 November 1963. My mother's elder sister's date of birth in her passport is 23 August 1962 which is correct. This means my mother and her sister have the same birth year in their passports. I want my mother to visit me in Australia but because of the issue of birth year she is not applying. Even her school document does not have the correct birth year.
My aunt has been to Australia so all her details are with the embassy and if my mom applies for a visa now, it might create a problem. Any suggestion as to what we can do??
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edited Mar 7 '16 at 15:48
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I don't get why the details of "Mausi" being in the database of the embassy would create problems for your mother - since "Mausi"s data were correct, the embassy should only have correct information?
– DCTLib
Mar 7 '16 at 11:07
3
@DCTLib Just FYI: The word "Mausi" means "Aunt" in the Hindi language :-)
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:03
10
@DCTLib: I think the questioner's mother's fear is that the Australian authorities will think to themselves, "your sister's DOB is 23rd August 1962, so it's biologically implausible that your DOB should be 25th November 1962". I have some doubts whether they'd even take into account that they have a sister on record, let alone worry about the DOB, but I believe that's why they think it could be a problem.
– Steve Jessop
Mar 7 '16 at 14:58
8
What official evidence do you have that your mother's "actual date of birth" is 26 November 1963?
– Floris
Mar 7 '16 at 23:22
add a comment |
1
I don't get why the details of "Mausi" being in the database of the embassy would create problems for your mother - since "Mausi"s data were correct, the embassy should only have correct information?
– DCTLib
Mar 7 '16 at 11:07
3
@DCTLib Just FYI: The word "Mausi" means "Aunt" in the Hindi language :-)
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:03
10
@DCTLib: I think the questioner's mother's fear is that the Australian authorities will think to themselves, "your sister's DOB is 23rd August 1962, so it's biologically implausible that your DOB should be 25th November 1962". I have some doubts whether they'd even take into account that they have a sister on record, let alone worry about the DOB, but I believe that's why they think it could be a problem.
– Steve Jessop
Mar 7 '16 at 14:58
8
What official evidence do you have that your mother's "actual date of birth" is 26 November 1963?
– Floris
Mar 7 '16 at 23:22
1
1
I don't get why the details of "Mausi" being in the database of the embassy would create problems for your mother - since "Mausi"s data were correct, the embassy should only have correct information?
– DCTLib
Mar 7 '16 at 11:07
I don't get why the details of "Mausi" being in the database of the embassy would create problems for your mother - since "Mausi"s data were correct, the embassy should only have correct information?
– DCTLib
Mar 7 '16 at 11:07
3
3
@DCTLib Just FYI: The word "Mausi" means "Aunt" in the Hindi language :-)
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:03
@DCTLib Just FYI: The word "Mausi" means "Aunt" in the Hindi language :-)
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:03
10
10
@DCTLib: I think the questioner's mother's fear is that the Australian authorities will think to themselves, "your sister's DOB is 23rd August 1962, so it's biologically implausible that your DOB should be 25th November 1962". I have some doubts whether they'd even take into account that they have a sister on record, let alone worry about the DOB, but I believe that's why they think it could be a problem.
– Steve Jessop
Mar 7 '16 at 14:58
@DCTLib: I think the questioner's mother's fear is that the Australian authorities will think to themselves, "your sister's DOB is 23rd August 1962, so it's biologically implausible that your DOB should be 25th November 1962". I have some doubts whether they'd even take into account that they have a sister on record, let alone worry about the DOB, but I believe that's why they think it could be a problem.
– Steve Jessop
Mar 7 '16 at 14:58
8
8
What official evidence do you have that your mother's "actual date of birth" is 26 November 1963?
– Floris
Mar 7 '16 at 23:22
What official evidence do you have that your mother's "actual date of birth" is 26 November 1963?
– Floris
Mar 7 '16 at 23:22
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The theoretical answer is to get your mother's passport corrected, but I gather that in India doing this requires Herculean battles with bureaucracy.
So I would suggest that she simply apply with her current passport. Australia has no way of knowing that the year is incorrect, especially if all her other documentation is consistent in using the wrong date. Unless she applies at the same time as her sister, I really doubt anybody would notice that the dates seem to conflict, and (as noted in the comments) there's a whole slew of ways they would be less than 9 months apart.
7
+1 for regional awareness. Sometimes the answer that works in Europe won't cut it in South America, and so on.
– Mindwin
Mar 7 '16 at 12:35
6
The shortest time between births can be a few minutes, if they are twins.
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:37
10
@Nav true, but if it is August and November that would be a painfully long labour ;)
– dirkk
Mar 7 '16 at 14:43
17
Even if someone did check, which is very doubtful indeed, one could be adopted.
– RedSonja
Mar 7 '16 at 15:01
6
+1 However, I must say that if the Australian authorities did indeed catch this technically impossible situation I would have huge respect for their vigilance.
– camden_kid
Mar 7 '16 at 16:09
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@bushra: As per info on the internet, you have to get this done as quickly as possible:
"The cases where the applicant comes to PIA for change/correction with
regard to date of birth in Passport after a period of five years from
the date of issue of passport with alleged wrong date of birth, no
such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected
out rightly (sic)," the memorandum said.
Passport showing wrong entry of date of birth must be corrected.
As per the memorandum, the only exemption that can be granted is in
the case of an applicant who was a minor when the passport was
originally issued. In such a case, application for correcting date of
birth should be filed upon attaining the age of majority and the PIA
can consider such an application irrespective of the date of issuance
of passport. If the PIA is satisfied about the claim and the documents
submitted by such an applicant, the request for changing date of birth
can be accepted without imposing any penalty.
In all other cases, if the request for changing date of birth is made
within five years and if the document relied is not the Register of
Births and Deaths, the PIA should levy appropriate penalty from the
applicant for obtaining the earlier passport by providing wrong
information regarding date of birth, the memorandum said.
PIAs need not relegate applicants to obtain declaratory court order
for correcting date of births anymore as they have been given the
power to make necessary changes in genuine cases, said the memorandum
that revised the provisions in Passport Manual, 2010 for dealing with
correcting date of birth entries.
The passport website says:
If your passport is due to expire, you need to apply for "Re-issue"
of passport. In case of "Re-issue" of passport, you need to submit a
proof of date of birth, if either your old passport has been
lost/damaged or you want to change date of birth in the passport.
and some replies on a forum say:
rectification for change in entry of date of birth in a passport is
subject to the verification of DATE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE and SSC Marks
card.... your problem is that of entry in your 10th memo.... file suit
of declaration before jurisdictional court..... and after that you can
submit the correct date of birth to RPO for next level of correction
in your passport.
The better way is to contact the passport office on their helpline: 1800-258-1800 and ask them what the procedure is. Based on the complexity of the procedure, you could either seek professional legal help or follow the necessary steps that the helpline gives you.
So the actual problem you have is because the date of birth of both sisters appears the same, and on paper, they appear to be twins....hmm...
One related question: Issuing fresh passport in India when birthdate is wrong in some documents
Another person who says:
I wish to inform you that you may first correct your date of birth in
your education documents after which you may have correction in
passport and other documents. If other parties refuse to change your
date of birth then a court order declaring your date of birth may be
required. Generally as you are born before 26-01-89 thus you do not
require birth certificate as proof of your date of birth and your
school certificate can be regarded as sufficient proof of your date of
birth for any legal formality. .
Personally, I feel it's better to spend some money on legal fees and use your contacts to get the matter clarified from a lawyer who knows what issues may crop up in future if your mother travels using her existing passport, or whether it's better for her to get the school certificate and passport corrected and approximately how much time and effort it would take.
The legal fee would cost much lesser than the time you spend worrying about the matter or the missed opportunity for your mother to travel.
2
Wow. So if they've left it longer than 5 years then the passport office will refuse to update the year? I guess she may well be stuck with the wrong DOB for good now.
– Monk
Mar 7 '16 at 17:21
I don't think it is that entirely that harsh. I believe the Passport Authority will consider genuine cases even if 5 years has expired, because errors in spelling, date etc are a widespread issue. The newspaper article seems to mention that the Passport Authority has the right to reject a request without any further legal proceedings, if it feels the request is not genuine. This is why it is perhaps better for the OP to get a legal opinion.
– Nav
Mar 8 '16 at 6:44
1
"...no such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected outright." Sounds very clear in the way they've worded it.
– Monk
Mar 8 '16 at 10:17
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If you want to be on the safe side, you should get get it corrected. Wrong data on passports can create all kinds of problems in the long run if it is inconsistent with other information. You should have some documentation that states the actual birth date. Ask at the passport office (a) what is the administrative process to get a new passport with the correct information using the documentation for the correct date of birth, and (b) what is the cost.
Note that inconsistent information on the passport is problematic since it may trigger warning signs both at the visa office and at the border entry point. As a traveler, you don't want that as it puts your plans at risk. So getting it corrected is the way to go.
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It shouldn't be a problem as long as you aren't trying to hide anything. Fill out the visa application truthfully, possibly including a note explaining the error.
My mother in law is currently in Australia on a passport with a blank date of birth. It's a bit unusual and the immigration website can't find her visa, but it has never been a problem with either issuing a visa or getting through immigration on arrival.
Visas are always issued with data matching the passport, and all they really want to know to let you in is that you aren't hiding anything.
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The theoretical answer is to get your mother's passport corrected, but I gather that in India doing this requires Herculean battles with bureaucracy.
So I would suggest that she simply apply with her current passport. Australia has no way of knowing that the year is incorrect, especially if all her other documentation is consistent in using the wrong date. Unless she applies at the same time as her sister, I really doubt anybody would notice that the dates seem to conflict, and (as noted in the comments) there's a whole slew of ways they would be less than 9 months apart.
7
+1 for regional awareness. Sometimes the answer that works in Europe won't cut it in South America, and so on.
– Mindwin
Mar 7 '16 at 12:35
6
The shortest time between births can be a few minutes, if they are twins.
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:37
10
@Nav true, but if it is August and November that would be a painfully long labour ;)
– dirkk
Mar 7 '16 at 14:43
17
Even if someone did check, which is very doubtful indeed, one could be adopted.
– RedSonja
Mar 7 '16 at 15:01
6
+1 However, I must say that if the Australian authorities did indeed catch this technically impossible situation I would have huge respect for their vigilance.
– camden_kid
Mar 7 '16 at 16:09
|
show 5 more comments
The theoretical answer is to get your mother's passport corrected, but I gather that in India doing this requires Herculean battles with bureaucracy.
So I would suggest that she simply apply with her current passport. Australia has no way of knowing that the year is incorrect, especially if all her other documentation is consistent in using the wrong date. Unless she applies at the same time as her sister, I really doubt anybody would notice that the dates seem to conflict, and (as noted in the comments) there's a whole slew of ways they would be less than 9 months apart.
7
+1 for regional awareness. Sometimes the answer that works in Europe won't cut it in South America, and so on.
– Mindwin
Mar 7 '16 at 12:35
6
The shortest time between births can be a few minutes, if they are twins.
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:37
10
@Nav true, but if it is August and November that would be a painfully long labour ;)
– dirkk
Mar 7 '16 at 14:43
17
Even if someone did check, which is very doubtful indeed, one could be adopted.
– RedSonja
Mar 7 '16 at 15:01
6
+1 However, I must say that if the Australian authorities did indeed catch this technically impossible situation I would have huge respect for their vigilance.
– camden_kid
Mar 7 '16 at 16:09
|
show 5 more comments
The theoretical answer is to get your mother's passport corrected, but I gather that in India doing this requires Herculean battles with bureaucracy.
So I would suggest that she simply apply with her current passport. Australia has no way of knowing that the year is incorrect, especially if all her other documentation is consistent in using the wrong date. Unless she applies at the same time as her sister, I really doubt anybody would notice that the dates seem to conflict, and (as noted in the comments) there's a whole slew of ways they would be less than 9 months apart.
The theoretical answer is to get your mother's passport corrected, but I gather that in India doing this requires Herculean battles with bureaucracy.
So I would suggest that she simply apply with her current passport. Australia has no way of knowing that the year is incorrect, especially if all her other documentation is consistent in using the wrong date. Unless she applies at the same time as her sister, I really doubt anybody would notice that the dates seem to conflict, and (as noted in the comments) there's a whole slew of ways they would be less than 9 months apart.
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answered Mar 7 '16 at 11:06
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+1 for regional awareness. Sometimes the answer that works in Europe won't cut it in South America, and so on.
– Mindwin
Mar 7 '16 at 12:35
6
The shortest time between births can be a few minutes, if they are twins.
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:37
10
@Nav true, but if it is August and November that would be a painfully long labour ;)
– dirkk
Mar 7 '16 at 14:43
17
Even if someone did check, which is very doubtful indeed, one could be adopted.
– RedSonja
Mar 7 '16 at 15:01
6
+1 However, I must say that if the Australian authorities did indeed catch this technically impossible situation I would have huge respect for their vigilance.
– camden_kid
Mar 7 '16 at 16:09
|
show 5 more comments
7
+1 for regional awareness. Sometimes the answer that works in Europe won't cut it in South America, and so on.
– Mindwin
Mar 7 '16 at 12:35
6
The shortest time between births can be a few minutes, if they are twins.
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:37
10
@Nav true, but if it is August and November that would be a painfully long labour ;)
– dirkk
Mar 7 '16 at 14:43
17
Even if someone did check, which is very doubtful indeed, one could be adopted.
– RedSonja
Mar 7 '16 at 15:01
6
+1 However, I must say that if the Australian authorities did indeed catch this technically impossible situation I would have huge respect for their vigilance.
– camden_kid
Mar 7 '16 at 16:09
7
7
+1 for regional awareness. Sometimes the answer that works in Europe won't cut it in South America, and so on.
– Mindwin
Mar 7 '16 at 12:35
+1 for regional awareness. Sometimes the answer that works in Europe won't cut it in South America, and so on.
– Mindwin
Mar 7 '16 at 12:35
6
6
The shortest time between births can be a few minutes, if they are twins.
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:37
The shortest time between births can be a few minutes, if they are twins.
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:37
10
10
@Nav true, but if it is August and November that would be a painfully long labour ;)
– dirkk
Mar 7 '16 at 14:43
@Nav true, but if it is August and November that would be a painfully long labour ;)
– dirkk
Mar 7 '16 at 14:43
17
17
Even if someone did check, which is very doubtful indeed, one could be adopted.
– RedSonja
Mar 7 '16 at 15:01
Even if someone did check, which is very doubtful indeed, one could be adopted.
– RedSonja
Mar 7 '16 at 15:01
6
6
+1 However, I must say that if the Australian authorities did indeed catch this technically impossible situation I would have huge respect for their vigilance.
– camden_kid
Mar 7 '16 at 16:09
+1 However, I must say that if the Australian authorities did indeed catch this technically impossible situation I would have huge respect for their vigilance.
– camden_kid
Mar 7 '16 at 16:09
|
show 5 more comments
@bushra: As per info on the internet, you have to get this done as quickly as possible:
"The cases where the applicant comes to PIA for change/correction with
regard to date of birth in Passport after a period of five years from
the date of issue of passport with alleged wrong date of birth, no
such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected
out rightly (sic)," the memorandum said.
Passport showing wrong entry of date of birth must be corrected.
As per the memorandum, the only exemption that can be granted is in
the case of an applicant who was a minor when the passport was
originally issued. In such a case, application for correcting date of
birth should be filed upon attaining the age of majority and the PIA
can consider such an application irrespective of the date of issuance
of passport. If the PIA is satisfied about the claim and the documents
submitted by such an applicant, the request for changing date of birth
can be accepted without imposing any penalty.
In all other cases, if the request for changing date of birth is made
within five years and if the document relied is not the Register of
Births and Deaths, the PIA should levy appropriate penalty from the
applicant for obtaining the earlier passport by providing wrong
information regarding date of birth, the memorandum said.
PIAs need not relegate applicants to obtain declaratory court order
for correcting date of births anymore as they have been given the
power to make necessary changes in genuine cases, said the memorandum
that revised the provisions in Passport Manual, 2010 for dealing with
correcting date of birth entries.
The passport website says:
If your passport is due to expire, you need to apply for "Re-issue"
of passport. In case of "Re-issue" of passport, you need to submit a
proof of date of birth, if either your old passport has been
lost/damaged or you want to change date of birth in the passport.
and some replies on a forum say:
rectification for change in entry of date of birth in a passport is
subject to the verification of DATE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE and SSC Marks
card.... your problem is that of entry in your 10th memo.... file suit
of declaration before jurisdictional court..... and after that you can
submit the correct date of birth to RPO for next level of correction
in your passport.
The better way is to contact the passport office on their helpline: 1800-258-1800 and ask them what the procedure is. Based on the complexity of the procedure, you could either seek professional legal help or follow the necessary steps that the helpline gives you.
So the actual problem you have is because the date of birth of both sisters appears the same, and on paper, they appear to be twins....hmm...
One related question: Issuing fresh passport in India when birthdate is wrong in some documents
Another person who says:
I wish to inform you that you may first correct your date of birth in
your education documents after which you may have correction in
passport and other documents. If other parties refuse to change your
date of birth then a court order declaring your date of birth may be
required. Generally as you are born before 26-01-89 thus you do not
require birth certificate as proof of your date of birth and your
school certificate can be regarded as sufficient proof of your date of
birth for any legal formality. .
Personally, I feel it's better to spend some money on legal fees and use your contacts to get the matter clarified from a lawyer who knows what issues may crop up in future if your mother travels using her existing passport, or whether it's better for her to get the school certificate and passport corrected and approximately how much time and effort it would take.
The legal fee would cost much lesser than the time you spend worrying about the matter or the missed opportunity for your mother to travel.
2
Wow. So if they've left it longer than 5 years then the passport office will refuse to update the year? I guess she may well be stuck with the wrong DOB for good now.
– Monk
Mar 7 '16 at 17:21
I don't think it is that entirely that harsh. I believe the Passport Authority will consider genuine cases even if 5 years has expired, because errors in spelling, date etc are a widespread issue. The newspaper article seems to mention that the Passport Authority has the right to reject a request without any further legal proceedings, if it feels the request is not genuine. This is why it is perhaps better for the OP to get a legal opinion.
– Nav
Mar 8 '16 at 6:44
1
"...no such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected outright." Sounds very clear in the way they've worded it.
– Monk
Mar 8 '16 at 10:17
add a comment |
@bushra: As per info on the internet, you have to get this done as quickly as possible:
"The cases where the applicant comes to PIA for change/correction with
regard to date of birth in Passport after a period of five years from
the date of issue of passport with alleged wrong date of birth, no
such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected
out rightly (sic)," the memorandum said.
Passport showing wrong entry of date of birth must be corrected.
As per the memorandum, the only exemption that can be granted is in
the case of an applicant who was a minor when the passport was
originally issued. In such a case, application for correcting date of
birth should be filed upon attaining the age of majority and the PIA
can consider such an application irrespective of the date of issuance
of passport. If the PIA is satisfied about the claim and the documents
submitted by such an applicant, the request for changing date of birth
can be accepted without imposing any penalty.
In all other cases, if the request for changing date of birth is made
within five years and if the document relied is not the Register of
Births and Deaths, the PIA should levy appropriate penalty from the
applicant for obtaining the earlier passport by providing wrong
information regarding date of birth, the memorandum said.
PIAs need not relegate applicants to obtain declaratory court order
for correcting date of births anymore as they have been given the
power to make necessary changes in genuine cases, said the memorandum
that revised the provisions in Passport Manual, 2010 for dealing with
correcting date of birth entries.
The passport website says:
If your passport is due to expire, you need to apply for "Re-issue"
of passport. In case of "Re-issue" of passport, you need to submit a
proof of date of birth, if either your old passport has been
lost/damaged or you want to change date of birth in the passport.
and some replies on a forum say:
rectification for change in entry of date of birth in a passport is
subject to the verification of DATE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE and SSC Marks
card.... your problem is that of entry in your 10th memo.... file suit
of declaration before jurisdictional court..... and after that you can
submit the correct date of birth to RPO for next level of correction
in your passport.
The better way is to contact the passport office on their helpline: 1800-258-1800 and ask them what the procedure is. Based on the complexity of the procedure, you could either seek professional legal help or follow the necessary steps that the helpline gives you.
So the actual problem you have is because the date of birth of both sisters appears the same, and on paper, they appear to be twins....hmm...
One related question: Issuing fresh passport in India when birthdate is wrong in some documents
Another person who says:
I wish to inform you that you may first correct your date of birth in
your education documents after which you may have correction in
passport and other documents. If other parties refuse to change your
date of birth then a court order declaring your date of birth may be
required. Generally as you are born before 26-01-89 thus you do not
require birth certificate as proof of your date of birth and your
school certificate can be regarded as sufficient proof of your date of
birth for any legal formality. .
Personally, I feel it's better to spend some money on legal fees and use your contacts to get the matter clarified from a lawyer who knows what issues may crop up in future if your mother travels using her existing passport, or whether it's better for her to get the school certificate and passport corrected and approximately how much time and effort it would take.
The legal fee would cost much lesser than the time you spend worrying about the matter or the missed opportunity for your mother to travel.
2
Wow. So if they've left it longer than 5 years then the passport office will refuse to update the year? I guess she may well be stuck with the wrong DOB for good now.
– Monk
Mar 7 '16 at 17:21
I don't think it is that entirely that harsh. I believe the Passport Authority will consider genuine cases even if 5 years has expired, because errors in spelling, date etc are a widespread issue. The newspaper article seems to mention that the Passport Authority has the right to reject a request without any further legal proceedings, if it feels the request is not genuine. This is why it is perhaps better for the OP to get a legal opinion.
– Nav
Mar 8 '16 at 6:44
1
"...no such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected outright." Sounds very clear in the way they've worded it.
– Monk
Mar 8 '16 at 10:17
add a comment |
@bushra: As per info on the internet, you have to get this done as quickly as possible:
"The cases where the applicant comes to PIA for change/correction with
regard to date of birth in Passport after a period of five years from
the date of issue of passport with alleged wrong date of birth, no
such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected
out rightly (sic)," the memorandum said.
Passport showing wrong entry of date of birth must be corrected.
As per the memorandum, the only exemption that can be granted is in
the case of an applicant who was a minor when the passport was
originally issued. In such a case, application for correcting date of
birth should be filed upon attaining the age of majority and the PIA
can consider such an application irrespective of the date of issuance
of passport. If the PIA is satisfied about the claim and the documents
submitted by such an applicant, the request for changing date of birth
can be accepted without imposing any penalty.
In all other cases, if the request for changing date of birth is made
within five years and if the document relied is not the Register of
Births and Deaths, the PIA should levy appropriate penalty from the
applicant for obtaining the earlier passport by providing wrong
information regarding date of birth, the memorandum said.
PIAs need not relegate applicants to obtain declaratory court order
for correcting date of births anymore as they have been given the
power to make necessary changes in genuine cases, said the memorandum
that revised the provisions in Passport Manual, 2010 for dealing with
correcting date of birth entries.
The passport website says:
If your passport is due to expire, you need to apply for "Re-issue"
of passport. In case of "Re-issue" of passport, you need to submit a
proof of date of birth, if either your old passport has been
lost/damaged or you want to change date of birth in the passport.
and some replies on a forum say:
rectification for change in entry of date of birth in a passport is
subject to the verification of DATE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE and SSC Marks
card.... your problem is that of entry in your 10th memo.... file suit
of declaration before jurisdictional court..... and after that you can
submit the correct date of birth to RPO for next level of correction
in your passport.
The better way is to contact the passport office on their helpline: 1800-258-1800 and ask them what the procedure is. Based on the complexity of the procedure, you could either seek professional legal help or follow the necessary steps that the helpline gives you.
So the actual problem you have is because the date of birth of both sisters appears the same, and on paper, they appear to be twins....hmm...
One related question: Issuing fresh passport in India when birthdate is wrong in some documents
Another person who says:
I wish to inform you that you may first correct your date of birth in
your education documents after which you may have correction in
passport and other documents. If other parties refuse to change your
date of birth then a court order declaring your date of birth may be
required. Generally as you are born before 26-01-89 thus you do not
require birth certificate as proof of your date of birth and your
school certificate can be regarded as sufficient proof of your date of
birth for any legal formality. .
Personally, I feel it's better to spend some money on legal fees and use your contacts to get the matter clarified from a lawyer who knows what issues may crop up in future if your mother travels using her existing passport, or whether it's better for her to get the school certificate and passport corrected and approximately how much time and effort it would take.
The legal fee would cost much lesser than the time you spend worrying about the matter or the missed opportunity for your mother to travel.
@bushra: As per info on the internet, you have to get this done as quickly as possible:
"The cases where the applicant comes to PIA for change/correction with
regard to date of birth in Passport after a period of five years from
the date of issue of passport with alleged wrong date of birth, no
such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected
out rightly (sic)," the memorandum said.
Passport showing wrong entry of date of birth must be corrected.
As per the memorandum, the only exemption that can be granted is in
the case of an applicant who was a minor when the passport was
originally issued. In such a case, application for correcting date of
birth should be filed upon attaining the age of majority and the PIA
can consider such an application irrespective of the date of issuance
of passport. If the PIA is satisfied about the claim and the documents
submitted by such an applicant, the request for changing date of birth
can be accepted without imposing any penalty.
In all other cases, if the request for changing date of birth is made
within five years and if the document relied is not the Register of
Births and Deaths, the PIA should levy appropriate penalty from the
applicant for obtaining the earlier passport by providing wrong
information regarding date of birth, the memorandum said.
PIAs need not relegate applicants to obtain declaratory court order
for correcting date of births anymore as they have been given the
power to make necessary changes in genuine cases, said the memorandum
that revised the provisions in Passport Manual, 2010 for dealing with
correcting date of birth entries.
The passport website says:
If your passport is due to expire, you need to apply for "Re-issue"
of passport. In case of "Re-issue" of passport, you need to submit a
proof of date of birth, if either your old passport has been
lost/damaged or you want to change date of birth in the passport.
and some replies on a forum say:
rectification for change in entry of date of birth in a passport is
subject to the verification of DATE OF BIRTH CERTIFICATE and SSC Marks
card.... your problem is that of entry in your 10th memo.... file suit
of declaration before jurisdictional court..... and after that you can
submit the correct date of birth to RPO for next level of correction
in your passport.
The better way is to contact the passport office on their helpline: 1800-258-1800 and ask them what the procedure is. Based on the complexity of the procedure, you could either seek professional legal help or follow the necessary steps that the helpline gives you.
So the actual problem you have is because the date of birth of both sisters appears the same, and on paper, they appear to be twins....hmm...
One related question: Issuing fresh passport in India when birthdate is wrong in some documents
Another person who says:
I wish to inform you that you may first correct your date of birth in
your education documents after which you may have correction in
passport and other documents. If other parties refuse to change your
date of birth then a court order declaring your date of birth may be
required. Generally as you are born before 26-01-89 thus you do not
require birth certificate as proof of your date of birth and your
school certificate can be regarded as sufficient proof of your date of
birth for any legal formality. .
Personally, I feel it's better to spend some money on legal fees and use your contacts to get the matter clarified from a lawyer who knows what issues may crop up in future if your mother travels using her existing passport, or whether it's better for her to get the school certificate and passport corrected and approximately how much time and effort it would take.
The legal fee would cost much lesser than the time you spend worrying about the matter or the missed opportunity for your mother to travel.
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Wow. So if they've left it longer than 5 years then the passport office will refuse to update the year? I guess she may well be stuck with the wrong DOB for good now.
– Monk
Mar 7 '16 at 17:21
I don't think it is that entirely that harsh. I believe the Passport Authority will consider genuine cases even if 5 years has expired, because errors in spelling, date etc are a widespread issue. The newspaper article seems to mention that the Passport Authority has the right to reject a request without any further legal proceedings, if it feels the request is not genuine. This is why it is perhaps better for the OP to get a legal opinion.
– Nav
Mar 8 '16 at 6:44
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"...no such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected outright." Sounds very clear in the way they've worded it.
– Monk
Mar 8 '16 at 10:17
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Wow. So if they've left it longer than 5 years then the passport office will refuse to update the year? I guess she may well be stuck with the wrong DOB for good now.
– Monk
Mar 7 '16 at 17:21
I don't think it is that entirely that harsh. I believe the Passport Authority will consider genuine cases even if 5 years has expired, because errors in spelling, date etc are a widespread issue. The newspaper article seems to mention that the Passport Authority has the right to reject a request without any further legal proceedings, if it feels the request is not genuine. This is why it is perhaps better for the OP to get a legal opinion.
– Nav
Mar 8 '16 at 6:44
1
"...no such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected outright." Sounds very clear in the way they've worded it.
– Monk
Mar 8 '16 at 10:17
2
2
Wow. So if they've left it longer than 5 years then the passport office will refuse to update the year? I guess she may well be stuck with the wrong DOB for good now.
– Monk
Mar 7 '16 at 17:21
Wow. So if they've left it longer than 5 years then the passport office will refuse to update the year? I guess she may well be stuck with the wrong DOB for good now.
– Monk
Mar 7 '16 at 17:21
I don't think it is that entirely that harsh. I believe the Passport Authority will consider genuine cases even if 5 years has expired, because errors in spelling, date etc are a widespread issue. The newspaper article seems to mention that the Passport Authority has the right to reject a request without any further legal proceedings, if it feels the request is not genuine. This is why it is perhaps better for the OP to get a legal opinion.
– Nav
Mar 8 '16 at 6:44
I don't think it is that entirely that harsh. I believe the Passport Authority will consider genuine cases even if 5 years has expired, because errors in spelling, date etc are a widespread issue. The newspaper article seems to mention that the Passport Authority has the right to reject a request without any further legal proceedings, if it feels the request is not genuine. This is why it is perhaps better for the OP to get a legal opinion.
– Nav
Mar 8 '16 at 6:44
1
1
"...no such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected outright." Sounds very clear in the way they've worded it.
– Monk
Mar 8 '16 at 10:17
"...no such request shall be entertained/accepted by the PIA and be rejected outright." Sounds very clear in the way they've worded it.
– Monk
Mar 8 '16 at 10:17
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If you want to be on the safe side, you should get get it corrected. Wrong data on passports can create all kinds of problems in the long run if it is inconsistent with other information. You should have some documentation that states the actual birth date. Ask at the passport office (a) what is the administrative process to get a new passport with the correct information using the documentation for the correct date of birth, and (b) what is the cost.
Note that inconsistent information on the passport is problematic since it may trigger warning signs both at the visa office and at the border entry point. As a traveler, you don't want that as it puts your plans at risk. So getting it corrected is the way to go.
add a comment |
If you want to be on the safe side, you should get get it corrected. Wrong data on passports can create all kinds of problems in the long run if it is inconsistent with other information. You should have some documentation that states the actual birth date. Ask at the passport office (a) what is the administrative process to get a new passport with the correct information using the documentation for the correct date of birth, and (b) what is the cost.
Note that inconsistent information on the passport is problematic since it may trigger warning signs both at the visa office and at the border entry point. As a traveler, you don't want that as it puts your plans at risk. So getting it corrected is the way to go.
add a comment |
If you want to be on the safe side, you should get get it corrected. Wrong data on passports can create all kinds of problems in the long run if it is inconsistent with other information. You should have some documentation that states the actual birth date. Ask at the passport office (a) what is the administrative process to get a new passport with the correct information using the documentation for the correct date of birth, and (b) what is the cost.
Note that inconsistent information on the passport is problematic since it may trigger warning signs both at the visa office and at the border entry point. As a traveler, you don't want that as it puts your plans at risk. So getting it corrected is the way to go.
If you want to be on the safe side, you should get get it corrected. Wrong data on passports can create all kinds of problems in the long run if it is inconsistent with other information. You should have some documentation that states the actual birth date. Ask at the passport office (a) what is the administrative process to get a new passport with the correct information using the documentation for the correct date of birth, and (b) what is the cost.
Note that inconsistent information on the passport is problematic since it may trigger warning signs both at the visa office and at the border entry point. As a traveler, you don't want that as it puts your plans at risk. So getting it corrected is the way to go.
edited Mar 7 '16 at 11:14
answered Mar 7 '16 at 11:03
DCTLibDCTLib
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It shouldn't be a problem as long as you aren't trying to hide anything. Fill out the visa application truthfully, possibly including a note explaining the error.
My mother in law is currently in Australia on a passport with a blank date of birth. It's a bit unusual and the immigration website can't find her visa, but it has never been a problem with either issuing a visa or getting through immigration on arrival.
Visas are always issued with data matching the passport, and all they really want to know to let you in is that you aren't hiding anything.
add a comment |
It shouldn't be a problem as long as you aren't trying to hide anything. Fill out the visa application truthfully, possibly including a note explaining the error.
My mother in law is currently in Australia on a passport with a blank date of birth. It's a bit unusual and the immigration website can't find her visa, but it has never been a problem with either issuing a visa or getting through immigration on arrival.
Visas are always issued with data matching the passport, and all they really want to know to let you in is that you aren't hiding anything.
add a comment |
It shouldn't be a problem as long as you aren't trying to hide anything. Fill out the visa application truthfully, possibly including a note explaining the error.
My mother in law is currently in Australia on a passport with a blank date of birth. It's a bit unusual and the immigration website can't find her visa, but it has never been a problem with either issuing a visa or getting through immigration on arrival.
Visas are always issued with data matching the passport, and all they really want to know to let you in is that you aren't hiding anything.
It shouldn't be a problem as long as you aren't trying to hide anything. Fill out the visa application truthfully, possibly including a note explaining the error.
My mother in law is currently in Australia on a passport with a blank date of birth. It's a bit unusual and the immigration website can't find her visa, but it has never been a problem with either issuing a visa or getting through immigration on arrival.
Visas are always issued with data matching the passport, and all they really want to know to let you in is that you aren't hiding anything.
answered Mar 8 '16 at 0:39
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I don't get why the details of "Mausi" being in the database of the embassy would create problems for your mother - since "Mausi"s data were correct, the embassy should only have correct information?
– DCTLib
Mar 7 '16 at 11:07
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@DCTLib Just FYI: The word "Mausi" means "Aunt" in the Hindi language :-)
– Nav
Mar 7 '16 at 14:03
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@DCTLib: I think the questioner's mother's fear is that the Australian authorities will think to themselves, "your sister's DOB is 23rd August 1962, so it's biologically implausible that your DOB should be 25th November 1962". I have some doubts whether they'd even take into account that they have a sister on record, let alone worry about the DOB, but I believe that's why they think it could be a problem.
– Steve Jessop
Mar 7 '16 at 14:58
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What official evidence do you have that your mother's "actual date of birth" is 26 November 1963?
– Floris
Mar 7 '16 at 23:22