Can I fly from New York to Arizona with only an expired passport



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I am in New York and I need to go to Arizona, but my passport has expired. Can I still buy the plane ticket or should I just use my green card? Note that I do not have a driver's license that may be used as ID.










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  • If you have a US drivers license that may or may not work depending on where it was issued.

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  • @Azor-Ahai For domestic air travel, all states' drivers licenses should be acceptable.

    – 200_success
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:11






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    @200_success The US government has been talking about not accepting those state issued IDs or DLs that don't meet a federally mandated standard. (This is, in effect, a means of slipping a national ID in through the backdoor, as overt attempts to get one have failed a couple of times) The law actually allows this now, but the disruptions caused would be significant and so far the feds have blinked first. I suppose that the threats are meant to pressure the state legislatures in the places that aren't currently up to snuff.

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    Mar 6 '16 at 22:30












  • @dmckee: Yes but that won't potentially be an issue until at least 2018

    – user102008
    Mar 7 '16 at 0:03











  • related: Can I fly domestically in the US using my university ID?

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    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58

















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I am in New York and I need to go to Arizona, but my passport has expired. Can I still buy the plane ticket or should I just use my green card? Note that I do not have a driver's license that may be used as ID.










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  • If you have a US drivers license that may or may not work depending on where it was issued.

    – Azor Ahai
    Mar 6 '16 at 20:14











  • @Azor-Ahai For domestic air travel, all states' drivers licenses should be acceptable.

    – 200_success
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:11






  • 1





    @200_success The US government has been talking about not accepting those state issued IDs or DLs that don't meet a federally mandated standard. (This is, in effect, a means of slipping a national ID in through the backdoor, as overt attempts to get one have failed a couple of times) The law actually allows this now, but the disruptions caused would be significant and so far the feds have blinked first. I suppose that the threats are meant to pressure the state legislatures in the places that aren't currently up to snuff.

    – dmckee
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:30












  • @dmckee: Yes but that won't potentially be an issue until at least 2018

    – user102008
    Mar 7 '16 at 0:03











  • related: Can I fly domestically in the US using my university ID?

    – reirab
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58













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I am in New York and I need to go to Arizona, but my passport has expired. Can I still buy the plane ticket or should I just use my green card? Note that I do not have a driver's license that may be used as ID.










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I am in New York and I need to go to Arizona, but my passport has expired. Can I still buy the plane ticket or should I just use my green card? Note that I do not have a driver's license that may be used as ID.







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  • If you have a US drivers license that may or may not work depending on where it was issued.

    – Azor Ahai
    Mar 6 '16 at 20:14











  • @Azor-Ahai For domestic air travel, all states' drivers licenses should be acceptable.

    – 200_success
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:11






  • 1





    @200_success The US government has been talking about not accepting those state issued IDs or DLs that don't meet a federally mandated standard. (This is, in effect, a means of slipping a national ID in through the backdoor, as overt attempts to get one have failed a couple of times) The law actually allows this now, but the disruptions caused would be significant and so far the feds have blinked first. I suppose that the threats are meant to pressure the state legislatures in the places that aren't currently up to snuff.

    – dmckee
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:30












  • @dmckee: Yes but that won't potentially be an issue until at least 2018

    – user102008
    Mar 7 '16 at 0:03











  • related: Can I fly domestically in the US using my university ID?

    – reirab
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58

















  • If you have a US drivers license that may or may not work depending on where it was issued.

    – Azor Ahai
    Mar 6 '16 at 20:14











  • @Azor-Ahai For domestic air travel, all states' drivers licenses should be acceptable.

    – 200_success
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:11






  • 1





    @200_success The US government has been talking about not accepting those state issued IDs or DLs that don't meet a federally mandated standard. (This is, in effect, a means of slipping a national ID in through the backdoor, as overt attempts to get one have failed a couple of times) The law actually allows this now, but the disruptions caused would be significant and so far the feds have blinked first. I suppose that the threats are meant to pressure the state legislatures in the places that aren't currently up to snuff.

    – dmckee
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:30












  • @dmckee: Yes but that won't potentially be an issue until at least 2018

    – user102008
    Mar 7 '16 at 0:03











  • related: Can I fly domestically in the US using my university ID?

    – reirab
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58
















If you have a US drivers license that may or may not work depending on where it was issued.

– Azor Ahai
Mar 6 '16 at 20:14





If you have a US drivers license that may or may not work depending on where it was issued.

– Azor Ahai
Mar 6 '16 at 20:14













@Azor-Ahai For domestic air travel, all states' drivers licenses should be acceptable.

– 200_success
Mar 6 '16 at 22:11





@Azor-Ahai For domestic air travel, all states' drivers licenses should be acceptable.

– 200_success
Mar 6 '16 at 22:11




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@200_success The US government has been talking about not accepting those state issued IDs or DLs that don't meet a federally mandated standard. (This is, in effect, a means of slipping a national ID in through the backdoor, as overt attempts to get one have failed a couple of times) The law actually allows this now, but the disruptions caused would be significant and so far the feds have blinked first. I suppose that the threats are meant to pressure the state legislatures in the places that aren't currently up to snuff.

– dmckee
Mar 6 '16 at 22:30






@200_success The US government has been talking about not accepting those state issued IDs or DLs that don't meet a federally mandated standard. (This is, in effect, a means of slipping a national ID in through the backdoor, as overt attempts to get one have failed a couple of times) The law actually allows this now, but the disruptions caused would be significant and so far the feds have blinked first. I suppose that the threats are meant to pressure the state legislatures in the places that aren't currently up to snuff.

– dmckee
Mar 6 '16 at 22:30














@dmckee: Yes but that won't potentially be an issue until at least 2018

– user102008
Mar 7 '16 at 0:03





@dmckee: Yes but that won't potentially be an issue until at least 2018

– user102008
Mar 7 '16 at 0:03













related: Can I fly domestically in the US using my university ID?

– reirab
Mar 7 '16 at 1:58





related: Can I fly domestically in the US using my university ID?

– reirab
Mar 7 '16 at 1:58










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You can use your permanent resident card ("green card") as evidence of your identity for the purpose of domestic air travel within the United States.



https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification



Note that you must show "valid identification" (emphasis mine). I would take this to assume that an expired passport is not a valid one. However I can see the word is ambiguous.






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    Last January I was allowed to fly (inside the US) on the basis of an expired US passport after I lost my driver's license. There was a suggestion that this was allowed because the passport was less than six months out of date. None of which is exactly parallel to the OP's situation, but I thought I'd throw it in.

    – dmckee
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:32


















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Yes, you can do this. I travel regularly from San Francisco to New York and Boston without taking my (EU) passport. I need only show driver's license, and even that isn't, strictly speaking, necessary.






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  • I think OP is asking if he can use an expired passport as his only means of ID. A valid passport (or any passport) isn't necessary for domestic trips (by air or otherwise) within the U.S. if you have some other form of acceptable ID.

    – reirab
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:55











  • That's an incredible blog post - "don't worry, just give us some other information" - like blood sample, first born child (not the name), account passwords..

    – Raystafarian
    Mar 7 '16 at 8:24


















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For travel within the U.S., you have to show identification. The list of acceptable forms of identification is available at https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification. A passport is one valid form of identification, but certainly not the only one. Personally, I have never shown my passport to fly: I always use my drivers license. I flew for many years before I got my first passport.






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  • As noted in hd1's answer, it's not actually necessary to have ID to fly in the US if you're willing to undergo stricter screening.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58











  • @phoog, my coworker has been denied the right to travel because he doesn't have ID, if you don't take ID along, your travel rights seem up to airport security.

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 5:40











  • @hd1 well it's the Federal TSA, not just "airport security," holding your travel fate in its hand, but yes. I would by no means advise anyone to try relying on the supposed right to travel without ID by submitting to stricter screening. But it is on the books. My wife has flown with "alternate" ID (work ID, credit cards) when she forgot her passport. I suppose it depends on both the traveler and the TSA officers. In the end it's just another example of the attempt to pretend that we don't live in a police state while at the same time operating a police state.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:08











  • Airport security in America is the TSA, @phoog

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:15











  • @hd1 well, the airports I'm familiar with also have security guards who are concerned with, for example, whether people are stealing from the shops. These are private security agents, as are (IIRC) the people who prevent you from backtracking from the baggage claim to your arrival gate. These are the people who come to mind (to my mind, at least), when I hear the phrase "airport security."

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:21











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You can use your permanent resident card ("green card") as evidence of your identity for the purpose of domestic air travel within the United States.



https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification



Note that you must show "valid identification" (emphasis mine). I would take this to assume that an expired passport is not a valid one. However I can see the word is ambiguous.






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    Last January I was allowed to fly (inside the US) on the basis of an expired US passport after I lost my driver's license. There was a suggestion that this was allowed because the passport was less than six months out of date. None of which is exactly parallel to the OP's situation, but I thought I'd throw it in.

    – dmckee
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:32















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You can use your permanent resident card ("green card") as evidence of your identity for the purpose of domestic air travel within the United States.



https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification



Note that you must show "valid identification" (emphasis mine). I would take this to assume that an expired passport is not a valid one. However I can see the word is ambiguous.






share|improve this answer




















  • 1





    Last January I was allowed to fly (inside the US) on the basis of an expired US passport after I lost my driver's license. There was a suggestion that this was allowed because the passport was less than six months out of date. None of which is exactly parallel to the OP's situation, but I thought I'd throw it in.

    – dmckee
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:32













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You can use your permanent resident card ("green card") as evidence of your identity for the purpose of domestic air travel within the United States.



https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification



Note that you must show "valid identification" (emphasis mine). I would take this to assume that an expired passport is not a valid one. However I can see the word is ambiguous.






share|improve this answer















You can use your permanent resident card ("green card") as evidence of your identity for the purpose of domestic air travel within the United States.



https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification



Note that you must show "valid identification" (emphasis mine). I would take this to assume that an expired passport is not a valid one. However I can see the word is ambiguous.







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    Last January I was allowed to fly (inside the US) on the basis of an expired US passport after I lost my driver's license. There was a suggestion that this was allowed because the passport was less than six months out of date. None of which is exactly parallel to the OP's situation, but I thought I'd throw it in.

    – dmckee
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    Last January I was allowed to fly (inside the US) on the basis of an expired US passport after I lost my driver's license. There was a suggestion that this was allowed because the passport was less than six months out of date. None of which is exactly parallel to the OP's situation, but I thought I'd throw it in.

    – dmckee
    Mar 6 '16 at 22:32







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Last January I was allowed to fly (inside the US) on the basis of an expired US passport after I lost my driver's license. There was a suggestion that this was allowed because the passport was less than six months out of date. None of which is exactly parallel to the OP's situation, but I thought I'd throw it in.

– dmckee
Mar 6 '16 at 22:32





Last January I was allowed to fly (inside the US) on the basis of an expired US passport after I lost my driver's license. There was a suggestion that this was allowed because the passport was less than six months out of date. None of which is exactly parallel to the OP's situation, but I thought I'd throw it in.

– dmckee
Mar 6 '16 at 22:32













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Yes, you can do this. I travel regularly from San Francisco to New York and Boston without taking my (EU) passport. I need only show driver's license, and even that isn't, strictly speaking, necessary.






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  • I think OP is asking if he can use an expired passport as his only means of ID. A valid passport (or any passport) isn't necessary for domestic trips (by air or otherwise) within the U.S. if you have some other form of acceptable ID.

    – reirab
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:55











  • That's an incredible blog post - "don't worry, just give us some other information" - like blood sample, first born child (not the name), account passwords..

    – Raystafarian
    Mar 7 '16 at 8:24















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Yes, you can do this. I travel regularly from San Francisco to New York and Boston without taking my (EU) passport. I need only show driver's license, and even that isn't, strictly speaking, necessary.






share|improve this answer























  • I think OP is asking if he can use an expired passport as his only means of ID. A valid passport (or any passport) isn't necessary for domestic trips (by air or otherwise) within the U.S. if you have some other form of acceptable ID.

    – reirab
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:55











  • That's an incredible blog post - "don't worry, just give us some other information" - like blood sample, first born child (not the name), account passwords..

    – Raystafarian
    Mar 7 '16 at 8:24













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Yes, you can do this. I travel regularly from San Francisco to New York and Boston without taking my (EU) passport. I need only show driver's license, and even that isn't, strictly speaking, necessary.






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Yes, you can do this. I travel regularly from San Francisco to New York and Boston without taking my (EU) passport. I need only show driver's license, and even that isn't, strictly speaking, necessary.







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  • I think OP is asking if he can use an expired passport as his only means of ID. A valid passport (or any passport) isn't necessary for domestic trips (by air or otherwise) within the U.S. if you have some other form of acceptable ID.

    – reirab
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:55











  • That's an incredible blog post - "don't worry, just give us some other information" - like blood sample, first born child (not the name), account passwords..

    – Raystafarian
    Mar 7 '16 at 8:24

















  • I think OP is asking if he can use an expired passport as his only means of ID. A valid passport (or any passport) isn't necessary for domestic trips (by air or otherwise) within the U.S. if you have some other form of acceptable ID.

    – reirab
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:55











  • That's an incredible blog post - "don't worry, just give us some other information" - like blood sample, first born child (not the name), account passwords..

    – Raystafarian
    Mar 7 '16 at 8:24
















I think OP is asking if he can use an expired passport as his only means of ID. A valid passport (or any passport) isn't necessary for domestic trips (by air or otherwise) within the U.S. if you have some other form of acceptable ID.

– reirab
Mar 7 '16 at 1:55





I think OP is asking if he can use an expired passport as his only means of ID. A valid passport (or any passport) isn't necessary for domestic trips (by air or otherwise) within the U.S. if you have some other form of acceptable ID.

– reirab
Mar 7 '16 at 1:55













That's an incredible blog post - "don't worry, just give us some other information" - like blood sample, first born child (not the name), account passwords..

– Raystafarian
Mar 7 '16 at 8:24





That's an incredible blog post - "don't worry, just give us some other information" - like blood sample, first born child (not the name), account passwords..

– Raystafarian
Mar 7 '16 at 8:24











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For travel within the U.S., you have to show identification. The list of acceptable forms of identification is available at https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification. A passport is one valid form of identification, but certainly not the only one. Personally, I have never shown my passport to fly: I always use my drivers license. I flew for many years before I got my first passport.






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  • As noted in hd1's answer, it's not actually necessary to have ID to fly in the US if you're willing to undergo stricter screening.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58











  • @phoog, my coworker has been denied the right to travel because he doesn't have ID, if you don't take ID along, your travel rights seem up to airport security.

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 5:40











  • @hd1 well it's the Federal TSA, not just "airport security," holding your travel fate in its hand, but yes. I would by no means advise anyone to try relying on the supposed right to travel without ID by submitting to stricter screening. But it is on the books. My wife has flown with "alternate" ID (work ID, credit cards) when she forgot her passport. I suppose it depends on both the traveler and the TSA officers. In the end it's just another example of the attempt to pretend that we don't live in a police state while at the same time operating a police state.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:08











  • Airport security in America is the TSA, @phoog

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:15











  • @hd1 well, the airports I'm familiar with also have security guards who are concerned with, for example, whether people are stealing from the shops. These are private security agents, as are (IIRC) the people who prevent you from backtracking from the baggage claim to your arrival gate. These are the people who come to mind (to my mind, at least), when I hear the phrase "airport security."

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:21















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For travel within the U.S., you have to show identification. The list of acceptable forms of identification is available at https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification. A passport is one valid form of identification, but certainly not the only one. Personally, I have never shown my passport to fly: I always use my drivers license. I flew for many years before I got my first passport.






share|improve this answer























  • As noted in hd1's answer, it's not actually necessary to have ID to fly in the US if you're willing to undergo stricter screening.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58











  • @phoog, my coworker has been denied the right to travel because he doesn't have ID, if you don't take ID along, your travel rights seem up to airport security.

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 5:40











  • @hd1 well it's the Federal TSA, not just "airport security," holding your travel fate in its hand, but yes. I would by no means advise anyone to try relying on the supposed right to travel without ID by submitting to stricter screening. But it is on the books. My wife has flown with "alternate" ID (work ID, credit cards) when she forgot her passport. I suppose it depends on both the traveler and the TSA officers. In the end it's just another example of the attempt to pretend that we don't live in a police state while at the same time operating a police state.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:08











  • Airport security in America is the TSA, @phoog

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:15











  • @hd1 well, the airports I'm familiar with also have security guards who are concerned with, for example, whether people are stealing from the shops. These are private security agents, as are (IIRC) the people who prevent you from backtracking from the baggage claim to your arrival gate. These are the people who come to mind (to my mind, at least), when I hear the phrase "airport security."

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:21













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For travel within the U.S., you have to show identification. The list of acceptable forms of identification is available at https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification. A passport is one valid form of identification, but certainly not the only one. Personally, I have never shown my passport to fly: I always use my drivers license. I flew for many years before I got my first passport.






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For travel within the U.S., you have to show identification. The list of acceptable forms of identification is available at https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/identification. A passport is one valid form of identification, but certainly not the only one. Personally, I have never shown my passport to fly: I always use my drivers license. I flew for many years before I got my first passport.







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  • As noted in hd1's answer, it's not actually necessary to have ID to fly in the US if you're willing to undergo stricter screening.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58











  • @phoog, my coworker has been denied the right to travel because he doesn't have ID, if you don't take ID along, your travel rights seem up to airport security.

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 5:40











  • @hd1 well it's the Federal TSA, not just "airport security," holding your travel fate in its hand, but yes. I would by no means advise anyone to try relying on the supposed right to travel without ID by submitting to stricter screening. But it is on the books. My wife has flown with "alternate" ID (work ID, credit cards) when she forgot her passport. I suppose it depends on both the traveler and the TSA officers. In the end it's just another example of the attempt to pretend that we don't live in a police state while at the same time operating a police state.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:08











  • Airport security in America is the TSA, @phoog

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:15











  • @hd1 well, the airports I'm familiar with also have security guards who are concerned with, for example, whether people are stealing from the shops. These are private security agents, as are (IIRC) the people who prevent you from backtracking from the baggage claim to your arrival gate. These are the people who come to mind (to my mind, at least), when I hear the phrase "airport security."

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:21

















  • As noted in hd1's answer, it's not actually necessary to have ID to fly in the US if you're willing to undergo stricter screening.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 1:58











  • @phoog, my coworker has been denied the right to travel because he doesn't have ID, if you don't take ID along, your travel rights seem up to airport security.

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 5:40











  • @hd1 well it's the Federal TSA, not just "airport security," holding your travel fate in its hand, but yes. I would by no means advise anyone to try relying on the supposed right to travel without ID by submitting to stricter screening. But it is on the books. My wife has flown with "alternate" ID (work ID, credit cards) when she forgot her passport. I suppose it depends on both the traveler and the TSA officers. In the end it's just another example of the attempt to pretend that we don't live in a police state while at the same time operating a police state.

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:08











  • Airport security in America is the TSA, @phoog

    – hd1
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:15











  • @hd1 well, the airports I'm familiar with also have security guards who are concerned with, for example, whether people are stealing from the shops. These are private security agents, as are (IIRC) the people who prevent you from backtracking from the baggage claim to your arrival gate. These are the people who come to mind (to my mind, at least), when I hear the phrase "airport security."

    – phoog
    Mar 7 '16 at 6:21
















As noted in hd1's answer, it's not actually necessary to have ID to fly in the US if you're willing to undergo stricter screening.

– phoog
Mar 7 '16 at 1:58





As noted in hd1's answer, it's not actually necessary to have ID to fly in the US if you're willing to undergo stricter screening.

– phoog
Mar 7 '16 at 1:58













@phoog, my coworker has been denied the right to travel because he doesn't have ID, if you don't take ID along, your travel rights seem up to airport security.

– hd1
Mar 7 '16 at 5:40





@phoog, my coworker has been denied the right to travel because he doesn't have ID, if you don't take ID along, your travel rights seem up to airport security.

– hd1
Mar 7 '16 at 5:40













@hd1 well it's the Federal TSA, not just "airport security," holding your travel fate in its hand, but yes. I would by no means advise anyone to try relying on the supposed right to travel without ID by submitting to stricter screening. But it is on the books. My wife has flown with "alternate" ID (work ID, credit cards) when she forgot her passport. I suppose it depends on both the traveler and the TSA officers. In the end it's just another example of the attempt to pretend that we don't live in a police state while at the same time operating a police state.

– phoog
Mar 7 '16 at 6:08





@hd1 well it's the Federal TSA, not just "airport security," holding your travel fate in its hand, but yes. I would by no means advise anyone to try relying on the supposed right to travel without ID by submitting to stricter screening. But it is on the books. My wife has flown with "alternate" ID (work ID, credit cards) when she forgot her passport. I suppose it depends on both the traveler and the TSA officers. In the end it's just another example of the attempt to pretend that we don't live in a police state while at the same time operating a police state.

– phoog
Mar 7 '16 at 6:08













Airport security in America is the TSA, @phoog

– hd1
Mar 7 '16 at 6:15





Airport security in America is the TSA, @phoog

– hd1
Mar 7 '16 at 6:15













@hd1 well, the airports I'm familiar with also have security guards who are concerned with, for example, whether people are stealing from the shops. These are private security agents, as are (IIRC) the people who prevent you from backtracking from the baggage claim to your arrival gate. These are the people who come to mind (to my mind, at least), when I hear the phrase "airport security."

– phoog
Mar 7 '16 at 6:21





@hd1 well, the airports I'm familiar with also have security guards who are concerned with, for example, whether people are stealing from the shops. These are private security agents, as are (IIRC) the people who prevent you from backtracking from the baggage claim to your arrival gate. These are the people who come to mind (to my mind, at least), when I hear the phrase "airport security."

– phoog
Mar 7 '16 at 6:21

















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