Is it legal to bring and carry a baton (weapon, bludgeon) into Denmark?



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I have a retractable baton which is a self-defense weapon. (It has no other purpose but as a weapon.) I am considering bringing it on my trip to Denmark, but of course, only if I can be sure it is allowed.



Are such items legal to bring into Denmark?



Are they legal to carry in Denmark?










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    Out of curiosity, what is the train of thought that made you consider bringing a self-defense weapon to a Western European country? I don't know your current country, but Denmark does not have that much crime. In fact, according to numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp, it's the 3rd safest place in Europe, and only just misses the top 10 worldwide.

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  • It's not that I am very worried about the likelihood of being attacked. Rather it is the particular vulnerability: carrying passport, plane tickets, heavy bags; being in a foreign country where it would not be so easy to deal with the loss of all cash on hand. The best self-defense strategy would be to rent a car (or travel by taxi), but I am planning to avoid that to save money. I should add, even if the national crime rates are low, it does not mean there are not high crime rates in certain areas; and foreign travelers are less likely to know which areas to avoid.

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I have a retractable baton which is a self-defense weapon. (It has no other purpose but as a weapon.) I am considering bringing it on my trip to Denmark, but of course, only if I can be sure it is allowed.



Are such items legal to bring into Denmark?



Are they legal to carry in Denmark?










share|improve this question



















  • 22





    Out of curiosity, what is the train of thought that made you consider bringing a self-defense weapon to a Western European country? I don't know your current country, but Denmark does not have that much crime. In fact, according to numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp, it's the 3rd safest place in Europe, and only just misses the top 10 worldwide.

    – Nzall
    Mar 13 '16 at 19:51











  • It's not that I am very worried about the likelihood of being attacked. Rather it is the particular vulnerability: carrying passport, plane tickets, heavy bags; being in a foreign country where it would not be so easy to deal with the loss of all cash on hand. The best self-defense strategy would be to rent a car (or travel by taxi), but I am planning to avoid that to save money. I should add, even if the national crime rates are low, it does not mean there are not high crime rates in certain areas; and foreign travelers are less likely to know which areas to avoid.

    – NotADane
    Mar 14 '16 at 19:26














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I have a retractable baton which is a self-defense weapon. (It has no other purpose but as a weapon.) I am considering bringing it on my trip to Denmark, but of course, only if I can be sure it is allowed.



Are such items legal to bring into Denmark?



Are they legal to carry in Denmark?










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I have a retractable baton which is a self-defense weapon. (It has no other purpose but as a weapon.) I am considering bringing it on my trip to Denmark, but of course, only if I can be sure it is allowed.



Are such items legal to bring into Denmark?



Are they legal to carry in Denmark?







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    Out of curiosity, what is the train of thought that made you consider bringing a self-defense weapon to a Western European country? I don't know your current country, but Denmark does not have that much crime. In fact, according to numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp, it's the 3rd safest place in Europe, and only just misses the top 10 worldwide.

    – Nzall
    Mar 13 '16 at 19:51











  • It's not that I am very worried about the likelihood of being attacked. Rather it is the particular vulnerability: carrying passport, plane tickets, heavy bags; being in a foreign country where it would not be so easy to deal with the loss of all cash on hand. The best self-defense strategy would be to rent a car (or travel by taxi), but I am planning to avoid that to save money. I should add, even if the national crime rates are low, it does not mean there are not high crime rates in certain areas; and foreign travelers are less likely to know which areas to avoid.

    – NotADane
    Mar 14 '16 at 19:26













  • 22





    Out of curiosity, what is the train of thought that made you consider bringing a self-defense weapon to a Western European country? I don't know your current country, but Denmark does not have that much crime. In fact, according to numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp, it's the 3rd safest place in Europe, and only just misses the top 10 worldwide.

    – Nzall
    Mar 13 '16 at 19:51











  • It's not that I am very worried about the likelihood of being attacked. Rather it is the particular vulnerability: carrying passport, plane tickets, heavy bags; being in a foreign country where it would not be so easy to deal with the loss of all cash on hand. The best self-defense strategy would be to rent a car (or travel by taxi), but I am planning to avoid that to save money. I should add, even if the national crime rates are low, it does not mean there are not high crime rates in certain areas; and foreign travelers are less likely to know which areas to avoid.

    – NotADane
    Mar 14 '16 at 19:26








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Out of curiosity, what is the train of thought that made you consider bringing a self-defense weapon to a Western European country? I don't know your current country, but Denmark does not have that much crime. In fact, according to numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp, it's the 3rd safest place in Europe, and only just misses the top 10 worldwide.

– Nzall
Mar 13 '16 at 19:51





Out of curiosity, what is the train of thought that made you consider bringing a self-defense weapon to a Western European country? I don't know your current country, but Denmark does not have that much crime. In fact, according to numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp, it's the 3rd safest place in Europe, and only just misses the top 10 worldwide.

– Nzall
Mar 13 '16 at 19:51













It's not that I am very worried about the likelihood of being attacked. Rather it is the particular vulnerability: carrying passport, plane tickets, heavy bags; being in a foreign country where it would not be so easy to deal with the loss of all cash on hand. The best self-defense strategy would be to rent a car (or travel by taxi), but I am planning to avoid that to save money. I should add, even if the national crime rates are low, it does not mean there are not high crime rates in certain areas; and foreign travelers are less likely to know which areas to avoid.

– NotADane
Mar 14 '16 at 19:26






It's not that I am very worried about the likelihood of being attacked. Rather it is the particular vulnerability: carrying passport, plane tickets, heavy bags; being in a foreign country where it would not be so easy to deal with the loss of all cash on hand. The best self-defense strategy would be to rent a car (or travel by taxi), but I am planning to avoid that to save money. I should add, even if the national crime rates are low, it does not mean there are not high crime rates in certain areas; and foreign travelers are less likely to know which areas to avoid.

– NotADane
Mar 14 '16 at 19:26











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Possession of blunt weapons is illegal in Denmark without a specific permit from the police.



Source: Statutory order concerning weapons and ammunition, etc (in Danish), §16 part 1 (9).




General background (not aimed specifically at the OP who seems already to be willing to follow the rules):



The weapons ban enjoys considerable support among the Danish population* and is vigorously enforced. It is not uncommon for first offenders to receive jail sentences for carrying a knife when going out driking. A baton will probably count as less severe than a knife, but even if you manage to walk free, a 3000-kr ($400) fine can be expected. And averring that the weapon is just for self-defense is unlikely to mollify police or judges.



The foundation of weapons policy debate in Denmark is a near-universal consensus that a nightlife where everybody is armed "for self-defense" is less safe for everyone because it increases the risk that trivial drunken altercations will spiral into something tragic, even where everyone thinks they're just defending themselves. Thus, a significant law-enforcement effort goes into keeping such defensive weaponry out of potentially unstable situations such as nightlife or football matches -- on the theory that visible and firm enforcement of the weapons ban will help everyone else feel safe enough not to try to arm themselves in respone.



*) At least, as regards items that are clearly and exclusively weapons. In contrast, there is an ongoing debate about whether our regulation of knives is overbroad; in some cases it has criminalized knives that were genuinely being used as tools rather than weapons, and a relaxation is presently making its way through parliament.






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    How can they possibly enforce that? I can understand firearm and knife restrictions, and I could see regulating purpose-made retractable batons and the like, but any stick of sufficient length and thickness could be used as an effective blunt weapon. They can't exactly ban sticks...

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 16:36






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    Police and courts do this all the time. Whether something is a weapon or not depends on context. People have been charged with possessing a weapon for carrying a baseball bat, if they have no other baseball equipment and are clearly not going to a baseball game.

    – DJClayworth
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:23






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    @DJClayworth: Okay, future reference: If you plan to beat somebody up with a baseball bat, bring a glove as well for appearances.

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:41






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    @user568458 Such flashlights are hardly urban legend. They are sold under the Maglite brand, usually to law enforcement, though anyone can buy one.

    – Michael Hampton
    Mar 13 '16 at 19:01






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    @DarrelHoffman They can't ban sticks but they can ban you from carrying a stout stick around the middle of town on a Saturday night without a damned good excuse. Context is everything. If you're walking in the forest, somebody attacks you and you pick up a stick to beat them with, that's self-defence; if you walk into the town centre with a stick just in case somebody attacks you, that's carrying a weapon.

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Possession of blunt weapons is illegal in Denmark without a specific permit from the police.



Source: Statutory order concerning weapons and ammunition, etc (in Danish), §16 part 1 (9).




General background (not aimed specifically at the OP who seems already to be willing to follow the rules):



The weapons ban enjoys considerable support among the Danish population* and is vigorously enforced. It is not uncommon for first offenders to receive jail sentences for carrying a knife when going out driking. A baton will probably count as less severe than a knife, but even if you manage to walk free, a 3000-kr ($400) fine can be expected. And averring that the weapon is just for self-defense is unlikely to mollify police or judges.



The foundation of weapons policy debate in Denmark is a near-universal consensus that a nightlife where everybody is armed "for self-defense" is less safe for everyone because it increases the risk that trivial drunken altercations will spiral into something tragic, even where everyone thinks they're just defending themselves. Thus, a significant law-enforcement effort goes into keeping such defensive weaponry out of potentially unstable situations such as nightlife or football matches -- on the theory that visible and firm enforcement of the weapons ban will help everyone else feel safe enough not to try to arm themselves in respone.



*) At least, as regards items that are clearly and exclusively weapons. In contrast, there is an ongoing debate about whether our regulation of knives is overbroad; in some cases it has criminalized knives that were genuinely being used as tools rather than weapons, and a relaxation is presently making its way through parliament.






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  • 2





    How can they possibly enforce that? I can understand firearm and knife restrictions, and I could see regulating purpose-made retractable batons and the like, but any stick of sufficient length and thickness could be used as an effective blunt weapon. They can't exactly ban sticks...

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 16:36






  • 18





    Police and courts do this all the time. Whether something is a weapon or not depends on context. People have been charged with possessing a weapon for carrying a baseball bat, if they have no other baseball equipment and are clearly not going to a baseball game.

    – DJClayworth
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:23






  • 11





    @DJClayworth: Okay, future reference: If you plan to beat somebody up with a baseball bat, bring a glove as well for appearances.

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:41






  • 5





    @user568458 Such flashlights are hardly urban legend. They are sold under the Maglite brand, usually to law enforcement, though anyone can buy one.

    – Michael Hampton
    Mar 13 '16 at 19:01






  • 13





    @DarrelHoffman They can't ban sticks but they can ban you from carrying a stout stick around the middle of town on a Saturday night without a damned good excuse. Context is everything. If you're walking in the forest, somebody attacks you and you pick up a stick to beat them with, that's self-defence; if you walk into the town centre with a stick just in case somebody attacks you, that's carrying a weapon.

    – David Richerby
    Mar 14 '16 at 1:55















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Possession of blunt weapons is illegal in Denmark without a specific permit from the police.



Source: Statutory order concerning weapons and ammunition, etc (in Danish), §16 part 1 (9).




General background (not aimed specifically at the OP who seems already to be willing to follow the rules):



The weapons ban enjoys considerable support among the Danish population* and is vigorously enforced. It is not uncommon for first offenders to receive jail sentences for carrying a knife when going out driking. A baton will probably count as less severe than a knife, but even if you manage to walk free, a 3000-kr ($400) fine can be expected. And averring that the weapon is just for self-defense is unlikely to mollify police or judges.



The foundation of weapons policy debate in Denmark is a near-universal consensus that a nightlife where everybody is armed "for self-defense" is less safe for everyone because it increases the risk that trivial drunken altercations will spiral into something tragic, even where everyone thinks they're just defending themselves. Thus, a significant law-enforcement effort goes into keeping such defensive weaponry out of potentially unstable situations such as nightlife or football matches -- on the theory that visible and firm enforcement of the weapons ban will help everyone else feel safe enough not to try to arm themselves in respone.



*) At least, as regards items that are clearly and exclusively weapons. In contrast, there is an ongoing debate about whether our regulation of knives is overbroad; in some cases it has criminalized knives that were genuinely being used as tools rather than weapons, and a relaxation is presently making its way through parliament.






share|improve this answer




















  • 2





    How can they possibly enforce that? I can understand firearm and knife restrictions, and I could see regulating purpose-made retractable batons and the like, but any stick of sufficient length and thickness could be used as an effective blunt weapon. They can't exactly ban sticks...

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 16:36






  • 18





    Police and courts do this all the time. Whether something is a weapon or not depends on context. People have been charged with possessing a weapon for carrying a baseball bat, if they have no other baseball equipment and are clearly not going to a baseball game.

    – DJClayworth
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:23






  • 11





    @DJClayworth: Okay, future reference: If you plan to beat somebody up with a baseball bat, bring a glove as well for appearances.

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:41






  • 5





    @user568458 Such flashlights are hardly urban legend. They are sold under the Maglite brand, usually to law enforcement, though anyone can buy one.

    – Michael Hampton
    Mar 13 '16 at 19:01






  • 13





    @DarrelHoffman They can't ban sticks but they can ban you from carrying a stout stick around the middle of town on a Saturday night without a damned good excuse. Context is everything. If you're walking in the forest, somebody attacks you and you pick up a stick to beat them with, that's self-defence; if you walk into the town centre with a stick just in case somebody attacks you, that's carrying a weapon.

    – David Richerby
    Mar 14 '16 at 1:55













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26







Possession of blunt weapons is illegal in Denmark without a specific permit from the police.



Source: Statutory order concerning weapons and ammunition, etc (in Danish), §16 part 1 (9).




General background (not aimed specifically at the OP who seems already to be willing to follow the rules):



The weapons ban enjoys considerable support among the Danish population* and is vigorously enforced. It is not uncommon for first offenders to receive jail sentences for carrying a knife when going out driking. A baton will probably count as less severe than a knife, but even if you manage to walk free, a 3000-kr ($400) fine can be expected. And averring that the weapon is just for self-defense is unlikely to mollify police or judges.



The foundation of weapons policy debate in Denmark is a near-universal consensus that a nightlife where everybody is armed "for self-defense" is less safe for everyone because it increases the risk that trivial drunken altercations will spiral into something tragic, even where everyone thinks they're just defending themselves. Thus, a significant law-enforcement effort goes into keeping such defensive weaponry out of potentially unstable situations such as nightlife or football matches -- on the theory that visible and firm enforcement of the weapons ban will help everyone else feel safe enough not to try to arm themselves in respone.



*) At least, as regards items that are clearly and exclusively weapons. In contrast, there is an ongoing debate about whether our regulation of knives is overbroad; in some cases it has criminalized knives that were genuinely being used as tools rather than weapons, and a relaxation is presently making its way through parliament.






share|improve this answer















Possession of blunt weapons is illegal in Denmark without a specific permit from the police.



Source: Statutory order concerning weapons and ammunition, etc (in Danish), §16 part 1 (9).




General background (not aimed specifically at the OP who seems already to be willing to follow the rules):



The weapons ban enjoys considerable support among the Danish population* and is vigorously enforced. It is not uncommon for first offenders to receive jail sentences for carrying a knife when going out driking. A baton will probably count as less severe than a knife, but even if you manage to walk free, a 3000-kr ($400) fine can be expected. And averring that the weapon is just for self-defense is unlikely to mollify police or judges.



The foundation of weapons policy debate in Denmark is a near-universal consensus that a nightlife where everybody is armed "for self-defense" is less safe for everyone because it increases the risk that trivial drunken altercations will spiral into something tragic, even where everyone thinks they're just defending themselves. Thus, a significant law-enforcement effort goes into keeping such defensive weaponry out of potentially unstable situations such as nightlife or football matches -- on the theory that visible and firm enforcement of the weapons ban will help everyone else feel safe enough not to try to arm themselves in respone.



*) At least, as regards items that are clearly and exclusively weapons. In contrast, there is an ongoing debate about whether our regulation of knives is overbroad; in some cases it has criminalized knives that were genuinely being used as tools rather than weapons, and a relaxation is presently making its way through parliament.







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    How can they possibly enforce that? I can understand firearm and knife restrictions, and I could see regulating purpose-made retractable batons and the like, but any stick of sufficient length and thickness could be used as an effective blunt weapon. They can't exactly ban sticks...

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 16:36






  • 18





    Police and courts do this all the time. Whether something is a weapon or not depends on context. People have been charged with possessing a weapon for carrying a baseball bat, if they have no other baseball equipment and are clearly not going to a baseball game.

    – DJClayworth
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:23






  • 11





    @DJClayworth: Okay, future reference: If you plan to beat somebody up with a baseball bat, bring a glove as well for appearances.

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:41






  • 5





    @user568458 Such flashlights are hardly urban legend. They are sold under the Maglite brand, usually to law enforcement, though anyone can buy one.

    – Michael Hampton
    Mar 13 '16 at 19:01






  • 13





    @DarrelHoffman They can't ban sticks but they can ban you from carrying a stout stick around the middle of town on a Saturday night without a damned good excuse. Context is everything. If you're walking in the forest, somebody attacks you and you pick up a stick to beat them with, that's self-defence; if you walk into the town centre with a stick just in case somebody attacks you, that's carrying a weapon.

    – David Richerby
    Mar 14 '16 at 1:55












  • 2





    How can they possibly enforce that? I can understand firearm and knife restrictions, and I could see regulating purpose-made retractable batons and the like, but any stick of sufficient length and thickness could be used as an effective blunt weapon. They can't exactly ban sticks...

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 16:36






  • 18





    Police and courts do this all the time. Whether something is a weapon or not depends on context. People have been charged with possessing a weapon for carrying a baseball bat, if they have no other baseball equipment and are clearly not going to a baseball game.

    – DJClayworth
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:23






  • 11





    @DJClayworth: Okay, future reference: If you plan to beat somebody up with a baseball bat, bring a glove as well for appearances.

    – Darrel Hoffman
    Mar 13 '16 at 17:41






  • 5





    @user568458 Such flashlights are hardly urban legend. They are sold under the Maglite brand, usually to law enforcement, though anyone can buy one.

    – Michael Hampton
    Mar 13 '16 at 19:01






  • 13





    @DarrelHoffman They can't ban sticks but they can ban you from carrying a stout stick around the middle of town on a Saturday night without a damned good excuse. Context is everything. If you're walking in the forest, somebody attacks you and you pick up a stick to beat them with, that's self-defence; if you walk into the town centre with a stick just in case somebody attacks you, that's carrying a weapon.

    – David Richerby
    Mar 14 '16 at 1:55







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How can they possibly enforce that? I can understand firearm and knife restrictions, and I could see regulating purpose-made retractable batons and the like, but any stick of sufficient length and thickness could be used as an effective blunt weapon. They can't exactly ban sticks...

– Darrel Hoffman
Mar 13 '16 at 16:36





How can they possibly enforce that? I can understand firearm and knife restrictions, and I could see regulating purpose-made retractable batons and the like, but any stick of sufficient length and thickness could be used as an effective blunt weapon. They can't exactly ban sticks...

– Darrel Hoffman
Mar 13 '16 at 16:36




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Police and courts do this all the time. Whether something is a weapon or not depends on context. People have been charged with possessing a weapon for carrying a baseball bat, if they have no other baseball equipment and are clearly not going to a baseball game.

– DJClayworth
Mar 13 '16 at 17:23





Police and courts do this all the time. Whether something is a weapon or not depends on context. People have been charged with possessing a weapon for carrying a baseball bat, if they have no other baseball equipment and are clearly not going to a baseball game.

– DJClayworth
Mar 13 '16 at 17:23




11




11





@DJClayworth: Okay, future reference: If you plan to beat somebody up with a baseball bat, bring a glove as well for appearances.

– Darrel Hoffman
Mar 13 '16 at 17:41





@DJClayworth: Okay, future reference: If you plan to beat somebody up with a baseball bat, bring a glove as well for appearances.

– Darrel Hoffman
Mar 13 '16 at 17:41




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5





@user568458 Such flashlights are hardly urban legend. They are sold under the Maglite brand, usually to law enforcement, though anyone can buy one.

– Michael Hampton
Mar 13 '16 at 19:01





@user568458 Such flashlights are hardly urban legend. They are sold under the Maglite brand, usually to law enforcement, though anyone can buy one.

– Michael Hampton
Mar 13 '16 at 19:01




13




13





@DarrelHoffman They can't ban sticks but they can ban you from carrying a stout stick around the middle of town on a Saturday night without a damned good excuse. Context is everything. If you're walking in the forest, somebody attacks you and you pick up a stick to beat them with, that's self-defence; if you walk into the town centre with a stick just in case somebody attacks you, that's carrying a weapon.

– David Richerby
Mar 14 '16 at 1:55





@DarrelHoffman They can't ban sticks but they can ban you from carrying a stout stick around the middle of town on a Saturday night without a damned good excuse. Context is everything. If you're walking in the forest, somebody attacks you and you pick up a stick to beat them with, that's self-defence; if you walk into the town centre with a stick just in case somebody attacks you, that's carrying a weapon.

– David Richerby
Mar 14 '16 at 1:55

















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