Is it possible to use one frequent flyer program for status and another for earnings?
Say I have elite status on one airline in an alliance but I want to accumulate miles in another airline in the alliance. Can I give one number for the purpose of status recognition and the other for earnings, on the same flight?
I thought I remembered this was possible, but I forget the details. If so, what should I tell the travel agent in order to do this?
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asked Jul 18 '16 at 15:53
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Say I have elite status on one airline in an alliance but I want to accumulate miles in another airline in the alliance. Can I give one number for the purpose of status recognition and the other for earnings, on the same flight?
I thought I remembered this was possible, but I forget the details. If so, what should I tell the travel agent in order to do this?
air-travel loyalty-programs
asked Jul 18 '16 at 15:53
jtbrjtbr
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Related: nice post from Choster here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/60864/… My meagre effort here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/71028/…
– Berwyn
Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
add a comment |
Say I have elite status on one airline in an alliance but I want to accumulate miles in another airline in the alliance. Can I give one number for the purpose of status recognition and the other for earnings, on the same flight?
I thought I remembered this was possible, but I forget the details. If so, what should I tell the travel agent in order to do this?
air-travel loyalty-programs
asked Jul 18 '16 at 15:53
jtbrjtbr
1432
Say I have elite status on one airline in an alliance but I want to accumulate miles in another airline in the alliance. Can I give one number for the purpose of status recognition and the other for earnings, on the same flight?
I thought I remembered this was possible, but I forget the details. If so, what should I tell the travel agent in order to do this?
air-travel loyalty-programs
air-travel loyalty-programs
asked Jul 18 '16 at 15:53
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asked Jul 18 '16 at 15:53
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asked Jul 18 '16 at 15:53
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asked Jul 18 '16 at 15:53
jtbrjtbr
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jtbrjtbr
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Related: nice post from Choster here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/60864/… My meagre effort here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/71028/…
– Berwyn
Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
add a comment |
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Related: nice post from Choster here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/60864/… My meagre effort here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/71028/…
– Berwyn
Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
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Related: nice post from Choster here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/60864/… My meagre effort here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/71028/…
– Berwyn
Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
Related: nice post from Choster here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/60864/… My meagre effort here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/71028/…
– Berwyn
Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
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It is possible (for an unusually knowledgeable travel agent), but not easy.
There are two fields in the PNR for each airline, the FQTV field (frequent traveller number for mileage earning) and the FQTS field (frequent traveller number for status purposes).
These can be set to different values. But airline IT systems are not always designed to understand that this can happen, so even if you manage to find a travel agent who understands what you are talking about, it is not guaranteed to work.
If you use a tool like the free MyFlights tool, it will tell you which numbers you have attached to the booking and whether they are FQTV or FQTS (or another type of FQT number). MyFlights is only available for Amadeus bookings.
answered Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
CalchasCalchas
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This just blew my mind. Clicked question looking for the obvious 'NOPE' and then...this. Very interesting.
– Mark Mayo♦
Jul 18 '16 at 16:12
If the travel agent is unable to handle this, would it be possible to do it when checking in for the first leg of the itinerary?
– phoog
Jul 18 '16 at 20:20
@phoog Even less likely you will find an airline check in staffer who can do this. Such detailed technical skill is now uncommon.
– Calchas
Jul 18 '16 at 21:44
add a comment |
So I am no expert in this but the method described in all the fancy travel blogs I follow, in the case the strategy described by @Calchas above (+1) fails, is to try to enter the lounge with your status card. If the lounge agent insists that the status program must also be the one that you earn miles for, have them change it on the spot, get in, and change it back to your preferred earning program online as soon as you are inside the lounge or at the boarding gate. That assumes you know how to do so (and it being possible).
Also be aware that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not (link credit @Berwyn). YMMV
answered Jul 20 '16 at 17:16
mtsmts
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I am pretty sure there is such a report online but I was not able to find one at the moment. Please do add a link if you can google better than me.
– mts
Jul 20 '16 at 17:17
1
flyertalk.com/forum/26941398-post7.html
– Berwyn
Jul 20 '16 at 17:37
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It is possible (for an unusually knowledgeable travel agent), but not easy.
There are two fields in the PNR for each airline, the FQTV field (frequent traveller number for mileage earning) and the FQTS field (frequent traveller number for status purposes).
These can be set to different values. But airline IT systems are not always designed to understand that this can happen, so even if you manage to find a travel agent who understands what you are talking about, it is not guaranteed to work.
If you use a tool like the free MyFlights tool, it will tell you which numbers you have attached to the booking and whether they are FQTV or FQTS (or another type of FQT number). MyFlights is only available for Amadeus bookings.
answered Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
CalchasCalchas
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2
This just blew my mind. Clicked question looking for the obvious 'NOPE' and then...this. Very interesting.
– Mark Mayo♦
Jul 18 '16 at 16:12
If the travel agent is unable to handle this, would it be possible to do it when checking in for the first leg of the itinerary?
– phoog
Jul 18 '16 at 20:20
@phoog Even less likely you will find an airline check in staffer who can do this. Such detailed technical skill is now uncommon.
– Calchas
Jul 18 '16 at 21:44
add a comment |
It is possible (for an unusually knowledgeable travel agent), but not easy.
There are two fields in the PNR for each airline, the FQTV field (frequent traveller number for mileage earning) and the FQTS field (frequent traveller number for status purposes).
These can be set to different values. But airline IT systems are not always designed to understand that this can happen, so even if you manage to find a travel agent who understands what you are talking about, it is not guaranteed to work.
If you use a tool like the free MyFlights tool, it will tell you which numbers you have attached to the booking and whether they are FQTV or FQTS (or another type of FQT number). MyFlights is only available for Amadeus bookings.
answered Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
CalchasCalchas
33.4k380136
2
This just blew my mind. Clicked question looking for the obvious 'NOPE' and then...this. Very interesting.
– Mark Mayo♦
Jul 18 '16 at 16:12
If the travel agent is unable to handle this, would it be possible to do it when checking in for the first leg of the itinerary?
– phoog
Jul 18 '16 at 20:20
@phoog Even less likely you will find an airline check in staffer who can do this. Such detailed technical skill is now uncommon.
– Calchas
Jul 18 '16 at 21:44
add a comment |
It is possible (for an unusually knowledgeable travel agent), but not easy.
There are two fields in the PNR for each airline, the FQTV field (frequent traveller number for mileage earning) and the FQTS field (frequent traveller number for status purposes).
These can be set to different values. But airline IT systems are not always designed to understand that this can happen, so even if you manage to find a travel agent who understands what you are talking about, it is not guaranteed to work.
If you use a tool like the free MyFlights tool, it will tell you which numbers you have attached to the booking and whether they are FQTV or FQTS (or another type of FQT number). MyFlights is only available for Amadeus bookings.
answered Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
CalchasCalchas
33.4k380136
It is possible (for an unusually knowledgeable travel agent), but not easy.
There are two fields in the PNR for each airline, the FQTV field (frequent traveller number for mileage earning) and the FQTS field (frequent traveller number for status purposes).
These can be set to different values. But airline IT systems are not always designed to understand that this can happen, so even if you manage to find a travel agent who understands what you are talking about, it is not guaranteed to work.
If you use a tool like the free MyFlights tool, it will tell you which numbers you have attached to the booking and whether they are FQTV or FQTS (or another type of FQT number). MyFlights is only available for Amadeus bookings.
answered Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
CalchasCalchas
33.4k380136
answered Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
CalchasCalchas
33.4k380136
answered Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
CalchasCalchas
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answered Jul 18 '16 at 16:06
CalchasCalchas
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2
This just blew my mind. Clicked question looking for the obvious 'NOPE' and then...this. Very interesting.
– Mark Mayo♦
Jul 18 '16 at 16:12
If the travel agent is unable to handle this, would it be possible to do it when checking in for the first leg of the itinerary?
– phoog
Jul 18 '16 at 20:20
@phoog Even less likely you will find an airline check in staffer who can do this. Such detailed technical skill is now uncommon.
– Calchas
Jul 18 '16 at 21:44
add a comment |
2
This just blew my mind. Clicked question looking for the obvious 'NOPE' and then...this. Very interesting.
– Mark Mayo♦
Jul 18 '16 at 16:12
If the travel agent is unable to handle this, would it be possible to do it when checking in for the first leg of the itinerary?
– phoog
Jul 18 '16 at 20:20
@phoog Even less likely you will find an airline check in staffer who can do this. Such detailed technical skill is now uncommon.
– Calchas
Jul 18 '16 at 21:44
2
2
This just blew my mind. Clicked question looking for the obvious 'NOPE' and then...this. Very interesting.
– Mark Mayo♦
Jul 18 '16 at 16:12
This just blew my mind. Clicked question looking for the obvious 'NOPE' and then...this. Very interesting.
– Mark Mayo♦
Jul 18 '16 at 16:12
If the travel agent is unable to handle this, would it be possible to do it when checking in for the first leg of the itinerary?
– phoog
Jul 18 '16 at 20:20
If the travel agent is unable to handle this, would it be possible to do it when checking in for the first leg of the itinerary?
– phoog
Jul 18 '16 at 20:20
@phoog Even less likely you will find an airline check in staffer who can do this. Such detailed technical skill is now uncommon.
– Calchas
Jul 18 '16 at 21:44
@phoog Even less likely you will find an airline check in staffer who can do this. Such detailed technical skill is now uncommon.
– Calchas
Jul 18 '16 at 21:44
add a comment |
So I am no expert in this but the method described in all the fancy travel blogs I follow, in the case the strategy described by @Calchas above (+1) fails, is to try to enter the lounge with your status card. If the lounge agent insists that the status program must also be the one that you earn miles for, have them change it on the spot, get in, and change it back to your preferred earning program online as soon as you are inside the lounge or at the boarding gate. That assumes you know how to do so (and it being possible).
Also be aware that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not (link credit @Berwyn). YMMV
answered Jul 20 '16 at 17:16
mtsmts
22.9k11108203
I am pretty sure there is such a report online but I was not able to find one at the moment. Please do add a link if you can google better than me.
– mts
Jul 20 '16 at 17:17
1
flyertalk.com/forum/26941398-post7.html
– Berwyn
Jul 20 '16 at 17:37
add a comment |
So I am no expert in this but the method described in all the fancy travel blogs I follow, in the case the strategy described by @Calchas above (+1) fails, is to try to enter the lounge with your status card. If the lounge agent insists that the status program must also be the one that you earn miles for, have them change it on the spot, get in, and change it back to your preferred earning program online as soon as you are inside the lounge or at the boarding gate. That assumes you know how to do so (and it being possible).
Also be aware that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not (link credit @Berwyn). YMMV
answered Jul 20 '16 at 17:16
mtsmts
22.9k11108203
I am pretty sure there is such a report online but I was not able to find one at the moment. Please do add a link if you can google better than me.
– mts
Jul 20 '16 at 17:17
1
flyertalk.com/forum/26941398-post7.html
– Berwyn
Jul 20 '16 at 17:37
add a comment |
So I am no expert in this but the method described in all the fancy travel blogs I follow, in the case the strategy described by @Calchas above (+1) fails, is to try to enter the lounge with your status card. If the lounge agent insists that the status program must also be the one that you earn miles for, have them change it on the spot, get in, and change it back to your preferred earning program online as soon as you are inside the lounge or at the boarding gate. That assumes you know how to do so (and it being possible).
Also be aware that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not (link credit @Berwyn). YMMV
answered Jul 20 '16 at 17:16
mtsmts
22.9k11108203
So I am no expert in this but the method described in all the fancy travel blogs I follow, in the case the strategy described by @Calchas above (+1) fails, is to try to enter the lounge with your status card. If the lounge agent insists that the status program must also be the one that you earn miles for, have them change it on the spot, get in, and change it back to your preferred earning program online as soon as you are inside the lounge or at the boarding gate. That assumes you know how to do so (and it being possible).
Also be aware that sometimes it works and sometimes it does not (link credit @Berwyn). YMMV
answered Jul 20 '16 at 17:16
mtsmts
22.9k11108203
edited Jul 20 '16 at 17:45
answered Jul 20 '16 at 17:16
mtsmts
22.9k11108203
answered Jul 20 '16 at 17:16
mtsmts
22.9k11108203
answered Jul 20 '16 at 17:16
mtsmts
22.9k11108203
22.9k11108203
I am pretty sure there is such a report online but I was not able to find one at the moment. Please do add a link if you can google better than me.
– mts
Jul 20 '16 at 17:17
1
flyertalk.com/forum/26941398-post7.html
– Berwyn
Jul 20 '16 at 17:37
add a comment |
I am pretty sure there is such a report online but I was not able to find one at the moment. Please do add a link if you can google better than me.
– mts
Jul 20 '16 at 17:17
1
flyertalk.com/forum/26941398-post7.html
– Berwyn
Jul 20 '16 at 17:37
I am pretty sure there is such a report online but I was not able to find one at the moment. Please do add a link if you can google better than me.
– mts
Jul 20 '16 at 17:17
I am pretty sure there is such a report online but I was not able to find one at the moment. Please do add a link if you can google better than me.
– mts
Jul 20 '16 at 17:17
1
1
flyertalk.com/forum/26941398-post7.html
– Berwyn
Jul 20 '16 at 17:37
flyertalk.com/forum/26941398-post7.html
– Berwyn
Jul 20 '16 at 17:37
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Related: nice post from Choster here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/60864/… My meagre effort here: travel.stackexchange.com/questions/71028/…
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