Do embassies know about visa refusal in other countries?










8















I was applying for an Ireland tourist visa. One of the questions asks whether I have been refused a visa for any country and, if yes, details of the refusal must be given. It further states that concealment of visa refusals will result in refusal of an Irish visa application.



I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication of the visa refusal on my passport.



How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my visa application history with the United States? l



Are there agreements between the two nations to share such information?










share|improve this question



















  • 12





    Various governments share information, and they do not always publicly admit it. So if you want to know if it is safe to lie on your application, the answer is no.

    – o.m.
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:05






  • 2





    They could ask the US, for a start.

    – CMaster
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:06






  • 4





    Suppose someone tells you that the Irish authorities will not have access tothat information. How credible is a random stranger on the internet? What's the chance that person is wrong? The outcome in that case will be verynegative indeed.

    – phoog
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:43






  • 2





    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because we do not give advice on how to lie.

    – David Richerby
    Nov 23 '16 at 20:02






  • 2





    No need to close a question because there is a potential to give bad advice, lets just give the right advice: do not lie! @DavidRicherby

    – mts
    Nov 23 '16 at 21:53















8















I was applying for an Ireland tourist visa. One of the questions asks whether I have been refused a visa for any country and, if yes, details of the refusal must be given. It further states that concealment of visa refusals will result in refusal of an Irish visa application.



I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication of the visa refusal on my passport.



How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my visa application history with the United States? l



Are there agreements between the two nations to share such information?










share|improve this question



















  • 12





    Various governments share information, and they do not always publicly admit it. So if you want to know if it is safe to lie on your application, the answer is no.

    – o.m.
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:05






  • 2





    They could ask the US, for a start.

    – CMaster
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:06






  • 4





    Suppose someone tells you that the Irish authorities will not have access tothat information. How credible is a random stranger on the internet? What's the chance that person is wrong? The outcome in that case will be verynegative indeed.

    – phoog
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:43






  • 2





    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because we do not give advice on how to lie.

    – David Richerby
    Nov 23 '16 at 20:02






  • 2





    No need to close a question because there is a potential to give bad advice, lets just give the right advice: do not lie! @DavidRicherby

    – mts
    Nov 23 '16 at 21:53













8












8








8


1






I was applying for an Ireland tourist visa. One of the questions asks whether I have been refused a visa for any country and, if yes, details of the refusal must be given. It further states that concealment of visa refusals will result in refusal of an Irish visa application.



I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication of the visa refusal on my passport.



How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my visa application history with the United States? l



Are there agreements between the two nations to share such information?










share|improve this question
















I was applying for an Ireland tourist visa. One of the questions asks whether I have been refused a visa for any country and, if yes, details of the refusal must be given. It further states that concealment of visa refusals will result in refusal of an Irish visa application.



I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication of the visa refusal on my passport.



How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my visa application history with the United States? l



Are there agreements between the two nations to share such information?







visas usa visa-refusals ireland






share|improve this question















share|improve this question













share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited Jul 12 '18 at 17:02







user67108

















asked Nov 23 '16 at 16:59









user54027user54027

41112




41112







  • 12





    Various governments share information, and they do not always publicly admit it. So if you want to know if it is safe to lie on your application, the answer is no.

    – o.m.
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:05






  • 2





    They could ask the US, for a start.

    – CMaster
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:06






  • 4





    Suppose someone tells you that the Irish authorities will not have access tothat information. How credible is a random stranger on the internet? What's the chance that person is wrong? The outcome in that case will be verynegative indeed.

    – phoog
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:43






  • 2





    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because we do not give advice on how to lie.

    – David Richerby
    Nov 23 '16 at 20:02






  • 2





    No need to close a question because there is a potential to give bad advice, lets just give the right advice: do not lie! @DavidRicherby

    – mts
    Nov 23 '16 at 21:53












  • 12





    Various governments share information, and they do not always publicly admit it. So if you want to know if it is safe to lie on your application, the answer is no.

    – o.m.
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:05






  • 2





    They could ask the US, for a start.

    – CMaster
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:06






  • 4





    Suppose someone tells you that the Irish authorities will not have access tothat information. How credible is a random stranger on the internet? What's the chance that person is wrong? The outcome in that case will be verynegative indeed.

    – phoog
    Nov 23 '16 at 17:43






  • 2





    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because we do not give advice on how to lie.

    – David Richerby
    Nov 23 '16 at 20:02






  • 2





    No need to close a question because there is a potential to give bad advice, lets just give the right advice: do not lie! @DavidRicherby

    – mts
    Nov 23 '16 at 21:53







12




12





Various governments share information, and they do not always publicly admit it. So if you want to know if it is safe to lie on your application, the answer is no.

– o.m.
Nov 23 '16 at 17:05





Various governments share information, and they do not always publicly admit it. So if you want to know if it is safe to lie on your application, the answer is no.

– o.m.
Nov 23 '16 at 17:05




2




2





They could ask the US, for a start.

– CMaster
Nov 23 '16 at 17:06





They could ask the US, for a start.

– CMaster
Nov 23 '16 at 17:06




4




4





Suppose someone tells you that the Irish authorities will not have access tothat information. How credible is a random stranger on the internet? What's the chance that person is wrong? The outcome in that case will be verynegative indeed.

– phoog
Nov 23 '16 at 17:43





Suppose someone tells you that the Irish authorities will not have access tothat information. How credible is a random stranger on the internet? What's the chance that person is wrong? The outcome in that case will be verynegative indeed.

– phoog
Nov 23 '16 at 17:43




2




2





I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because we do not give advice on how to lie.

– David Richerby
Nov 23 '16 at 20:02





I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because we do not give advice on how to lie.

– David Richerby
Nov 23 '16 at 20:02




2




2





No need to close a question because there is a potential to give bad advice, lets just give the right advice: do not lie! @DavidRicherby

– mts
Nov 23 '16 at 21:53





No need to close a question because there is a potential to give bad advice, lets just give the right advice: do not lie! @DavidRicherby

– mts
Nov 23 '16 at 21:53










2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes


















15















I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication
of the visa refusal on my passport.




You may remember as part of the F2 application process an attendant asked you to place your hand over a something like a miniature photocopier? And then the other hand? That made and recorded an electronic scan of your fingerprints. The scan was digitised and put on to a database. Part of the rationale for doing that was to match up any future visa applications you make so that all your stuff is linked to a single record that you can't tamper with. This so-called 'biometric enrolment' became fashionable in the early 2000's to help combat people who lied about their immigration history. Incredible to relate there are people out there who entertain such notions.




How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my
visa application history with the United States?




When you apply for a visa to Ireland, part of the process is... you guessed it... biometric enrolment! Once captured, the digitised biometrics are stored on a computer and the visa officers can run them through a matching program to see if you show up anywhere else in the system. What this means is that the person's passport is relegated to a somewhat secondary level in finding out exactly who the applicant is. If they find a match on the person's biometrics they will get to learn if the applicant is an honest person or not.




Are there agreements between the two nations to share such
information?




The route is a bit circuitous because the UK acts as a proxy for nations in the Common Travel Area...



enter image description here



The US and the UK are connected by the "Five Eyes Treaty" and the UK and Ireland are connected by the 2011 Agreement. The amount and type of data that gets flushed through these connections is indeterminate; the various governments do not make that information public.



Even if the agreements are not explicit in 2016, one must assume that future politics may forge new agreements which in turn will open up more national databases which in turn may reveal heretofore hidden parts of a person's history.



So as a general rule where nations in the Western Hemisphere are concerned, it's best practices to assume that everybody knows everything or alternatively it's a matter of time before everybody knows everything. Consequently this site endorses the strategy of total transparency on the part of the applicant. You didn't ask that question specifically, but it's inherent in almost all 'does A know about B's refusal' type of questions.






share|improve this answer
































    -13














    Do not disclose if you are refused. I tried to be honest with the British Embassy 19 years after I was bounced. I went for another visa even in Europe where I have permanent resident, but they gave me stupid excuse. It's better to lie and get what you want. Don't try to be honest, they aren't God.






    share|improve this answer




















    • 9





      Not only is it local policy not to advise people to lie in immigration matters, it's foolish for them to do so. The UK will ban you for ten years if they catch you in a lie, the US will ban you for life, and many other countries get very unhappy also. We have any number of posts here from people who were caught in what the authorities consider to be a lie, and it's ruined a substantial portion of their lives. Advising people to expose themselves to this may not be great advice.

      – MadHatter
      Sep 14 '18 at 6:35







    • 2





      @MadHatter has covered my reason to downvote this answer.

      – B.Liu
      Sep 14 '18 at 6:42











    • Very bad advice!

      – NicolasB
      Sep 14 '18 at 8:41






    • 4





      While I agree with the downvotes and the comments, I disagree with the vote to delete this answer. Let the answer stand and let the downvotes and comments serve as a warning to anyone who would heed it. The site is more useful to people when it presents opposing viewpoints and allows them to choose for themselves; that's one of the underlying design principles, after all, and the reason for having both up and down votes.

      – phoog
      Sep 14 '18 at 19:19











    Your Answer








    StackExchange.ready(function()
    var channelOptions =
    tags: "".split(" "),
    id: "273"
    ;
    initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

    StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
    // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
    if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
    StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
    createEditor();
    );

    else
    createEditor();

    );

    function createEditor()
    StackExchange.prepareEditor(
    heartbeatType: 'answer',
    autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
    convertImagesToLinks: false,
    noModals: true,
    showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
    reputationToPostImages: null,
    bindNavPrevention: true,
    postfix: "",
    imageUploader:
    brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
    contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
    allowUrls: true
    ,
    noCode: true, onDemand: true,
    discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
    ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
    );



    );













    draft saved

    draft discarded


















    StackExchange.ready(
    function ()
    StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2ftravel.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f83130%2fdo-embassies-know-about-visa-refusal-in-other-countries%23new-answer', 'question_page');

    );

    Post as a guest















    Required, but never shown

























    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes








    2 Answers
    2






    active

    oldest

    votes









    active

    oldest

    votes






    active

    oldest

    votes









    15















    I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication
    of the visa refusal on my passport.




    You may remember as part of the F2 application process an attendant asked you to place your hand over a something like a miniature photocopier? And then the other hand? That made and recorded an electronic scan of your fingerprints. The scan was digitised and put on to a database. Part of the rationale for doing that was to match up any future visa applications you make so that all your stuff is linked to a single record that you can't tamper with. This so-called 'biometric enrolment' became fashionable in the early 2000's to help combat people who lied about their immigration history. Incredible to relate there are people out there who entertain such notions.




    How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my
    visa application history with the United States?




    When you apply for a visa to Ireland, part of the process is... you guessed it... biometric enrolment! Once captured, the digitised biometrics are stored on a computer and the visa officers can run them through a matching program to see if you show up anywhere else in the system. What this means is that the person's passport is relegated to a somewhat secondary level in finding out exactly who the applicant is. If they find a match on the person's biometrics they will get to learn if the applicant is an honest person or not.




    Are there agreements between the two nations to share such
    information?




    The route is a bit circuitous because the UK acts as a proxy for nations in the Common Travel Area...



    enter image description here



    The US and the UK are connected by the "Five Eyes Treaty" and the UK and Ireland are connected by the 2011 Agreement. The amount and type of data that gets flushed through these connections is indeterminate; the various governments do not make that information public.



    Even if the agreements are not explicit in 2016, one must assume that future politics may forge new agreements which in turn will open up more national databases which in turn may reveal heretofore hidden parts of a person's history.



    So as a general rule where nations in the Western Hemisphere are concerned, it's best practices to assume that everybody knows everything or alternatively it's a matter of time before everybody knows everything. Consequently this site endorses the strategy of total transparency on the part of the applicant. You didn't ask that question specifically, but it's inherent in almost all 'does A know about B's refusal' type of questions.






    share|improve this answer





























      15















      I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication
      of the visa refusal on my passport.




      You may remember as part of the F2 application process an attendant asked you to place your hand over a something like a miniature photocopier? And then the other hand? That made and recorded an electronic scan of your fingerprints. The scan was digitised and put on to a database. Part of the rationale for doing that was to match up any future visa applications you make so that all your stuff is linked to a single record that you can't tamper with. This so-called 'biometric enrolment' became fashionable in the early 2000's to help combat people who lied about their immigration history. Incredible to relate there are people out there who entertain such notions.




      How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my
      visa application history with the United States?




      When you apply for a visa to Ireland, part of the process is... you guessed it... biometric enrolment! Once captured, the digitised biometrics are stored on a computer and the visa officers can run them through a matching program to see if you show up anywhere else in the system. What this means is that the person's passport is relegated to a somewhat secondary level in finding out exactly who the applicant is. If they find a match on the person's biometrics they will get to learn if the applicant is an honest person or not.




      Are there agreements between the two nations to share such
      information?




      The route is a bit circuitous because the UK acts as a proxy for nations in the Common Travel Area...



      enter image description here



      The US and the UK are connected by the "Five Eyes Treaty" and the UK and Ireland are connected by the 2011 Agreement. The amount and type of data that gets flushed through these connections is indeterminate; the various governments do not make that information public.



      Even if the agreements are not explicit in 2016, one must assume that future politics may forge new agreements which in turn will open up more national databases which in turn may reveal heretofore hidden parts of a person's history.



      So as a general rule where nations in the Western Hemisphere are concerned, it's best practices to assume that everybody knows everything or alternatively it's a matter of time before everybody knows everything. Consequently this site endorses the strategy of total transparency on the part of the applicant. You didn't ask that question specifically, but it's inherent in almost all 'does A know about B's refusal' type of questions.






      share|improve this answer



























        15












        15








        15








        I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication
        of the visa refusal on my passport.




        You may remember as part of the F2 application process an attendant asked you to place your hand over a something like a miniature photocopier? And then the other hand? That made and recorded an electronic scan of your fingerprints. The scan was digitised and put on to a database. Part of the rationale for doing that was to match up any future visa applications you make so that all your stuff is linked to a single record that you can't tamper with. This so-called 'biometric enrolment' became fashionable in the early 2000's to help combat people who lied about their immigration history. Incredible to relate there are people out there who entertain such notions.




        How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my
        visa application history with the United States?




        When you apply for a visa to Ireland, part of the process is... you guessed it... biometric enrolment! Once captured, the digitised biometrics are stored on a computer and the visa officers can run them through a matching program to see if you show up anywhere else in the system. What this means is that the person's passport is relegated to a somewhat secondary level in finding out exactly who the applicant is. If they find a match on the person's biometrics they will get to learn if the applicant is an honest person or not.




        Are there agreements between the two nations to share such
        information?




        The route is a bit circuitous because the UK acts as a proxy for nations in the Common Travel Area...



        enter image description here



        The US and the UK are connected by the "Five Eyes Treaty" and the UK and Ireland are connected by the 2011 Agreement. The amount and type of data that gets flushed through these connections is indeterminate; the various governments do not make that information public.



        Even if the agreements are not explicit in 2016, one must assume that future politics may forge new agreements which in turn will open up more national databases which in turn may reveal heretofore hidden parts of a person's history.



        So as a general rule where nations in the Western Hemisphere are concerned, it's best practices to assume that everybody knows everything or alternatively it's a matter of time before everybody knows everything. Consequently this site endorses the strategy of total transparency on the part of the applicant. You didn't ask that question specifically, but it's inherent in almost all 'does A know about B's refusal' type of questions.






        share|improve this answer
















        I was denied a US F-2 visa. However, there is NO stamp or indication
        of the visa refusal on my passport.




        You may remember as part of the F2 application process an attendant asked you to place your hand over a something like a miniature photocopier? And then the other hand? That made and recorded an electronic scan of your fingerprints. The scan was digitised and put on to a database. Part of the rationale for doing that was to match up any future visa applications you make so that all your stuff is linked to a single record that you can't tamper with. This so-called 'biometric enrolment' became fashionable in the early 2000's to help combat people who lied about their immigration history. Incredible to relate there are people out there who entertain such notions.




        How could the Irish embassy and/or immigration officers know about my
        visa application history with the United States?




        When you apply for a visa to Ireland, part of the process is... you guessed it... biometric enrolment! Once captured, the digitised biometrics are stored on a computer and the visa officers can run them through a matching program to see if you show up anywhere else in the system. What this means is that the person's passport is relegated to a somewhat secondary level in finding out exactly who the applicant is. If they find a match on the person's biometrics they will get to learn if the applicant is an honest person or not.




        Are there agreements between the two nations to share such
        information?




        The route is a bit circuitous because the UK acts as a proxy for nations in the Common Travel Area...



        enter image description here



        The US and the UK are connected by the "Five Eyes Treaty" and the UK and Ireland are connected by the 2011 Agreement. The amount and type of data that gets flushed through these connections is indeterminate; the various governments do not make that information public.



        Even if the agreements are not explicit in 2016, one must assume that future politics may forge new agreements which in turn will open up more national databases which in turn may reveal heretofore hidden parts of a person's history.



        So as a general rule where nations in the Western Hemisphere are concerned, it's best practices to assume that everybody knows everything or alternatively it's a matter of time before everybody knows everything. Consequently this site endorses the strategy of total transparency on the part of the applicant. You didn't ask that question specifically, but it's inherent in almost all 'does A know about B's refusal' type of questions.







        share|improve this answer














        share|improve this answer



        share|improve this answer








        edited Nov 24 '16 at 11:40

























        answered Nov 23 '16 at 19:14









        Gayot FowGayot Fow

        75.4k21199380




        75.4k21199380























            -13














            Do not disclose if you are refused. I tried to be honest with the British Embassy 19 years after I was bounced. I went for another visa even in Europe where I have permanent resident, but they gave me stupid excuse. It's better to lie and get what you want. Don't try to be honest, they aren't God.






            share|improve this answer




















            • 9





              Not only is it local policy not to advise people to lie in immigration matters, it's foolish for them to do so. The UK will ban you for ten years if they catch you in a lie, the US will ban you for life, and many other countries get very unhappy also. We have any number of posts here from people who were caught in what the authorities consider to be a lie, and it's ruined a substantial portion of their lives. Advising people to expose themselves to this may not be great advice.

              – MadHatter
              Sep 14 '18 at 6:35







            • 2





              @MadHatter has covered my reason to downvote this answer.

              – B.Liu
              Sep 14 '18 at 6:42











            • Very bad advice!

              – NicolasB
              Sep 14 '18 at 8:41






            • 4





              While I agree with the downvotes and the comments, I disagree with the vote to delete this answer. Let the answer stand and let the downvotes and comments serve as a warning to anyone who would heed it. The site is more useful to people when it presents opposing viewpoints and allows them to choose for themselves; that's one of the underlying design principles, after all, and the reason for having both up and down votes.

              – phoog
              Sep 14 '18 at 19:19
















            -13














            Do not disclose if you are refused. I tried to be honest with the British Embassy 19 years after I was bounced. I went for another visa even in Europe where I have permanent resident, but they gave me stupid excuse. It's better to lie and get what you want. Don't try to be honest, they aren't God.






            share|improve this answer




















            • 9





              Not only is it local policy not to advise people to lie in immigration matters, it's foolish for them to do so. The UK will ban you for ten years if they catch you in a lie, the US will ban you for life, and many other countries get very unhappy also. We have any number of posts here from people who were caught in what the authorities consider to be a lie, and it's ruined a substantial portion of their lives. Advising people to expose themselves to this may not be great advice.

              – MadHatter
              Sep 14 '18 at 6:35







            • 2





              @MadHatter has covered my reason to downvote this answer.

              – B.Liu
              Sep 14 '18 at 6:42











            • Very bad advice!

              – NicolasB
              Sep 14 '18 at 8:41






            • 4





              While I agree with the downvotes and the comments, I disagree with the vote to delete this answer. Let the answer stand and let the downvotes and comments serve as a warning to anyone who would heed it. The site is more useful to people when it presents opposing viewpoints and allows them to choose for themselves; that's one of the underlying design principles, after all, and the reason for having both up and down votes.

              – phoog
              Sep 14 '18 at 19:19














            -13












            -13








            -13







            Do not disclose if you are refused. I tried to be honest with the British Embassy 19 years after I was bounced. I went for another visa even in Europe where I have permanent resident, but they gave me stupid excuse. It's better to lie and get what you want. Don't try to be honest, they aren't God.






            share|improve this answer















            Do not disclose if you are refused. I tried to be honest with the British Embassy 19 years after I was bounced. I went for another visa even in Europe where I have permanent resident, but they gave me stupid excuse. It's better to lie and get what you want. Don't try to be honest, they aren't God.







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited Sep 14 '18 at 19:13









            ahmedus

            3,39462151




            3,39462151










            answered Sep 14 '18 at 5:45









            GeorgeGeorge

            1




            1







            • 9





              Not only is it local policy not to advise people to lie in immigration matters, it's foolish for them to do so. The UK will ban you for ten years if they catch you in a lie, the US will ban you for life, and many other countries get very unhappy also. We have any number of posts here from people who were caught in what the authorities consider to be a lie, and it's ruined a substantial portion of their lives. Advising people to expose themselves to this may not be great advice.

              – MadHatter
              Sep 14 '18 at 6:35







            • 2





              @MadHatter has covered my reason to downvote this answer.

              – B.Liu
              Sep 14 '18 at 6:42











            • Very bad advice!

              – NicolasB
              Sep 14 '18 at 8:41






            • 4





              While I agree with the downvotes and the comments, I disagree with the vote to delete this answer. Let the answer stand and let the downvotes and comments serve as a warning to anyone who would heed it. The site is more useful to people when it presents opposing viewpoints and allows them to choose for themselves; that's one of the underlying design principles, after all, and the reason for having both up and down votes.

              – phoog
              Sep 14 '18 at 19:19













            • 9





              Not only is it local policy not to advise people to lie in immigration matters, it's foolish for them to do so. The UK will ban you for ten years if they catch you in a lie, the US will ban you for life, and many other countries get very unhappy also. We have any number of posts here from people who were caught in what the authorities consider to be a lie, and it's ruined a substantial portion of their lives. Advising people to expose themselves to this may not be great advice.

              – MadHatter
              Sep 14 '18 at 6:35







            • 2





              @MadHatter has covered my reason to downvote this answer.

              – B.Liu
              Sep 14 '18 at 6:42











            • Very bad advice!

              – NicolasB
              Sep 14 '18 at 8:41






            • 4





              While I agree with the downvotes and the comments, I disagree with the vote to delete this answer. Let the answer stand and let the downvotes and comments serve as a warning to anyone who would heed it. The site is more useful to people when it presents opposing viewpoints and allows them to choose for themselves; that's one of the underlying design principles, after all, and the reason for having both up and down votes.

              – phoog
              Sep 14 '18 at 19:19








            9




            9





            Not only is it local policy not to advise people to lie in immigration matters, it's foolish for them to do so. The UK will ban you for ten years if they catch you in a lie, the US will ban you for life, and many other countries get very unhappy also. We have any number of posts here from people who were caught in what the authorities consider to be a lie, and it's ruined a substantial portion of their lives. Advising people to expose themselves to this may not be great advice.

            – MadHatter
            Sep 14 '18 at 6:35






            Not only is it local policy not to advise people to lie in immigration matters, it's foolish for them to do so. The UK will ban you for ten years if they catch you in a lie, the US will ban you for life, and many other countries get very unhappy also. We have any number of posts here from people who were caught in what the authorities consider to be a lie, and it's ruined a substantial portion of their lives. Advising people to expose themselves to this may not be great advice.

            – MadHatter
            Sep 14 '18 at 6:35





            2




            2





            @MadHatter has covered my reason to downvote this answer.

            – B.Liu
            Sep 14 '18 at 6:42





            @MadHatter has covered my reason to downvote this answer.

            – B.Liu
            Sep 14 '18 at 6:42













            Very bad advice!

            – NicolasB
            Sep 14 '18 at 8:41





            Very bad advice!

            – NicolasB
            Sep 14 '18 at 8:41




            4




            4





            While I agree with the downvotes and the comments, I disagree with the vote to delete this answer. Let the answer stand and let the downvotes and comments serve as a warning to anyone who would heed it. The site is more useful to people when it presents opposing viewpoints and allows them to choose for themselves; that's one of the underlying design principles, after all, and the reason for having both up and down votes.

            – phoog
            Sep 14 '18 at 19:19






            While I agree with the downvotes and the comments, I disagree with the vote to delete this answer. Let the answer stand and let the downvotes and comments serve as a warning to anyone who would heed it. The site is more useful to people when it presents opposing viewpoints and allows them to choose for themselves; that's one of the underlying design principles, after all, and the reason for having both up and down votes.

            – phoog
            Sep 14 '18 at 19:19


















            draft saved

            draft discarded
















































            Thanks for contributing an answer to Travel Stack Exchange!


            • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

            But avoid


            • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

            • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.

            To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




            draft saved


            draft discarded














            StackExchange.ready(
            function ()
            StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2ftravel.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f83130%2fdo-embassies-know-about-visa-refusal-in-other-countries%23new-answer', 'question_page');

            );

            Post as a guest















            Required, but never shown





















































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown

































            Required, but never shown














            Required, but never shown












            Required, but never shown







            Required, but never shown