Should a visa-free national who has previously been refused a UK visa but is now visa-free apply for a visa for ALL future visits?
Say a person used to require a visa for the UK and was once refused. Now they've become a visa-free national, but was detained for a long time upon a visa-free entry. The only way to nullify the refusal and prevent this from happening in the future is to obtain a visa (a phenomenon unique to the UK).
I wonder: should the person apply for a visa for every future UK visit in their life, or does a single visa approval permanently eliminate the flag caused by the original refusal, so that once the visa expires, applying for visa-free entry won't cause complications specifically due to the original refusal?
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asked Mar 16 '17 at 0:18
Crazydre
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Say a person used to require a visa for the UK and was once refused. Now they've become a visa-free national, but was detained for a long time upon a visa-free entry. The only way to nullify the refusal and prevent this from happening in the future is to obtain a visa (a phenomenon unique to the UK).
I wonder: should the person apply for a visa for every future UK visit in their life, or does a single visa approval permanently eliminate the flag caused by the original refusal, so that once the visa expires, applying for visa-free entry won't cause complications specifically due to the original refusal?
visas uk customs-and-immigration
asked Mar 16 '17 at 0:18
Crazydre
52.3k1096230
Closely related: Recently naturalized American visiting UK, previously refused. Should I apply for entry clearance? shows what happened to one person who did not apply for an entry clearance before travelling to the UK in a similar circumstance.
– Michael Hampton
Mar 16 '17 at 3:25
@MichaelHampton It's that question that inspired me to write this one
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:29
Perhaps you should note this criteria (of clearing the air via subsequent entry clearance) is UK Specific.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 10:48
add a comment |
Say a person used to require a visa for the UK and was once refused. Now they've become a visa-free national, but was detained for a long time upon a visa-free entry. The only way to nullify the refusal and prevent this from happening in the future is to obtain a visa (a phenomenon unique to the UK).
I wonder: should the person apply for a visa for every future UK visit in their life, or does a single visa approval permanently eliminate the flag caused by the original refusal, so that once the visa expires, applying for visa-free entry won't cause complications specifically due to the original refusal?
visas uk customs-and-immigration
asked Mar 16 '17 at 0:18
Crazydre
52.3k1096230
Say a person used to require a visa for the UK and was once refused. Now they've become a visa-free national, but was detained for a long time upon a visa-free entry. The only way to nullify the refusal and prevent this from happening in the future is to obtain a visa (a phenomenon unique to the UK).
I wonder: should the person apply for a visa for every future UK visit in their life, or does a single visa approval permanently eliminate the flag caused by the original refusal, so that once the visa expires, applying for visa-free entry won't cause complications specifically due to the original refusal?
visas uk customs-and-immigration
visas uk customs-and-immigration
asked Mar 16 '17 at 0:18
Crazydre
52.3k1096230
asked Mar 16 '17 at 0:18
Crazydre
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Crazydre
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asked Mar 16 '17 at 0:18
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Closely related: Recently naturalized American visiting UK, previously refused. Should I apply for entry clearance? shows what happened to one person who did not apply for an entry clearance before travelling to the UK in a similar circumstance.
– Michael Hampton
Mar 16 '17 at 3:25
@MichaelHampton It's that question that inspired me to write this one
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:29
Perhaps you should note this criteria (of clearing the air via subsequent entry clearance) is UK Specific.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 10:48
add a comment |
Closely related: Recently naturalized American visiting UK, previously refused. Should I apply for entry clearance? shows what happened to one person who did not apply for an entry clearance before travelling to the UK in a similar circumstance.
– Michael Hampton
Mar 16 '17 at 3:25
@MichaelHampton It's that question that inspired me to write this one
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:29
Perhaps you should note this criteria (of clearing the air via subsequent entry clearance) is UK Specific.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 10:48
Closely related: Recently naturalized American visiting UK, previously refused. Should I apply for entry clearance? shows what happened to one person who did not apply for an entry clearance before travelling to the UK in a similar circumstance.
– Michael Hampton
Mar 16 '17 at 3:25
Closely related: Recently naturalized American visiting UK, previously refused. Should I apply for entry clearance? shows what happened to one person who did not apply for an entry clearance before travelling to the UK in a similar circumstance.
– Michael Hampton
Mar 16 '17 at 3:25
@MichaelHampton It's that question that inspired me to write this one
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:29
@MichaelHampton It's that question that inspired me to write this one
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:29
Perhaps you should note this criteria (of clearing the air via subsequent entry clearance) is UK Specific.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 10:48
Perhaps you should note this criteria (of clearing the air via subsequent entry clearance) is UK Specific.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 10:48
add a comment |
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Keep in mind that even as a traveller from a visa-free country you should bring the evidence required for a visa application with you when travelling.
Once your receive an entry clearance, you can move freely without applying for a visa beforehand - just like any other visa-free person as this will supersede the refusal mark.
But at the very same time, unless you are in a hurry, it is always good to apply for the visa before travelling. If no for other reason than to make your landing quicker and usually pain-free, as most immigration concerns will be already dealt with.
answered Mar 16 '17 at 1:50
Tymoteusz Paul
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"unless you are in a hurry" Or you don't wish to spend £87 unless trying to enter visa-free after having got an entry clearance (which then expired) would "re-raise" the past flag
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:54
@Crazydre it doesn't, once you are cleared you are fine. Matter of cost is for person to decide on their own. Keep in mind that if something goes wrong during landing the expenses will likely be massive (plane tickets, hotel reservation and time spent all gone to hell).
– Tymoteusz Paul
Mar 16 '17 at 1:56
1
Of course, but what I wondered was if trying to enter visa-free would cause trouble specifically due to the original visa refusal, even if a (by now expired) visa was obtained afterwards. You gave an answer to that.
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:59
add a comment |
How did you become visa free? Did you gain new citizenship? If so, then everything from your past is, well, past. At least this is my understanding and interpretation of Dual citizenship passports and visas / https://travel.stackexchange.com/a/64891/4188 .
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
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answered Mar 16 '17 at 3:03
chx
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This does not concern me, as I'm nothing but visa-free (even for residence) and have been for my whole life. In the concerned case, yes, they naturalised and became a US citizen, but endured a pain in the neck at Heathrow nonetheless
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:11
1
Perhaps in theory everything from your past is, well, past. In theory your history almost always affects the future.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 6:01
OK, let's escalate this into a question because it is weird.
– chx
Mar 17 '17 at 6:16
Getting a new citizenship does not erase your past. Most countries, including the US for most purposes, allow dual citizens to pick which citizenship they want to use to apply for entry. So as a newly naturalized Canadian, you were able to gain access to a new immigration benefit, namely the visa-free travel enjoyed by Canadians in the US. But your naturalization would not have cleared you of any adverse history such as prior removals, findings of inadmissibility or visa refusals.
– phoog
May 13 '17 at 14:55
add a comment |
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Keep in mind that even as a traveller from a visa-free country you should bring the evidence required for a visa application with you when travelling.
Once your receive an entry clearance, you can move freely without applying for a visa beforehand - just like any other visa-free person as this will supersede the refusal mark.
But at the very same time, unless you are in a hurry, it is always good to apply for the visa before travelling. If no for other reason than to make your landing quicker and usually pain-free, as most immigration concerns will be already dealt with.
answered Mar 16 '17 at 1:50
Tymoteusz Paul
1,924416
2
"unless you are in a hurry" Or you don't wish to spend £87 unless trying to enter visa-free after having got an entry clearance (which then expired) would "re-raise" the past flag
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:54
@Crazydre it doesn't, once you are cleared you are fine. Matter of cost is for person to decide on their own. Keep in mind that if something goes wrong during landing the expenses will likely be massive (plane tickets, hotel reservation and time spent all gone to hell).
– Tymoteusz Paul
Mar 16 '17 at 1:56
1
Of course, but what I wondered was if trying to enter visa-free would cause trouble specifically due to the original visa refusal, even if a (by now expired) visa was obtained afterwards. You gave an answer to that.
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:59
add a comment |
Keep in mind that even as a traveller from a visa-free country you should bring the evidence required for a visa application with you when travelling.
Once your receive an entry clearance, you can move freely without applying for a visa beforehand - just like any other visa-free person as this will supersede the refusal mark.
But at the very same time, unless you are in a hurry, it is always good to apply for the visa before travelling. If no for other reason than to make your landing quicker and usually pain-free, as most immigration concerns will be already dealt with.
answered Mar 16 '17 at 1:50
Tymoteusz Paul
1,924416
2
"unless you are in a hurry" Or you don't wish to spend £87 unless trying to enter visa-free after having got an entry clearance (which then expired) would "re-raise" the past flag
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:54
@Crazydre it doesn't, once you are cleared you are fine. Matter of cost is for person to decide on their own. Keep in mind that if something goes wrong during landing the expenses will likely be massive (plane tickets, hotel reservation and time spent all gone to hell).
– Tymoteusz Paul
Mar 16 '17 at 1:56
1
Of course, but what I wondered was if trying to enter visa-free would cause trouble specifically due to the original visa refusal, even if a (by now expired) visa was obtained afterwards. You gave an answer to that.
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:59
add a comment |
Keep in mind that even as a traveller from a visa-free country you should bring the evidence required for a visa application with you when travelling.
Once your receive an entry clearance, you can move freely without applying for a visa beforehand - just like any other visa-free person as this will supersede the refusal mark.
But at the very same time, unless you are in a hurry, it is always good to apply for the visa before travelling. If no for other reason than to make your landing quicker and usually pain-free, as most immigration concerns will be already dealt with.
answered Mar 16 '17 at 1:50
Tymoteusz Paul
1,924416
Keep in mind that even as a traveller from a visa-free country you should bring the evidence required for a visa application with you when travelling.
Once your receive an entry clearance, you can move freely without applying for a visa beforehand - just like any other visa-free person as this will supersede the refusal mark.
But at the very same time, unless you are in a hurry, it is always good to apply for the visa before travelling. If no for other reason than to make your landing quicker and usually pain-free, as most immigration concerns will be already dealt with.
answered Mar 16 '17 at 1:50
Tymoteusz Paul
1,924416
answered Mar 16 '17 at 1:50
Tymoteusz Paul
1,924416
answered Mar 16 '17 at 1:50
Tymoteusz Paul
1,924416
answered Mar 16 '17 at 1:50
Tymoteusz Paul
1,924416
1,924416
2
"unless you are in a hurry" Or you don't wish to spend £87 unless trying to enter visa-free after having got an entry clearance (which then expired) would "re-raise" the past flag
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:54
@Crazydre it doesn't, once you are cleared you are fine. Matter of cost is for person to decide on their own. Keep in mind that if something goes wrong during landing the expenses will likely be massive (plane tickets, hotel reservation and time spent all gone to hell).
– Tymoteusz Paul
Mar 16 '17 at 1:56
1
Of course, but what I wondered was if trying to enter visa-free would cause trouble specifically due to the original visa refusal, even if a (by now expired) visa was obtained afterwards. You gave an answer to that.
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:59
add a comment |
2
"unless you are in a hurry" Or you don't wish to spend £87 unless trying to enter visa-free after having got an entry clearance (which then expired) would "re-raise" the past flag
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:54
@Crazydre it doesn't, once you are cleared you are fine. Matter of cost is for person to decide on their own. Keep in mind that if something goes wrong during landing the expenses will likely be massive (plane tickets, hotel reservation and time spent all gone to hell).
– Tymoteusz Paul
Mar 16 '17 at 1:56
1
Of course, but what I wondered was if trying to enter visa-free would cause trouble specifically due to the original visa refusal, even if a (by now expired) visa was obtained afterwards. You gave an answer to that.
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:59
2
2
"unless you are in a hurry" Or you don't wish to spend £87 unless trying to enter visa-free after having got an entry clearance (which then expired) would "re-raise" the past flag
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:54
"unless you are in a hurry" Or you don't wish to spend £87 unless trying to enter visa-free after having got an entry clearance (which then expired) would "re-raise" the past flag
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:54
@Crazydre it doesn't, once you are cleared you are fine. Matter of cost is for person to decide on their own. Keep in mind that if something goes wrong during landing the expenses will likely be massive (plane tickets, hotel reservation and time spent all gone to hell).
– Tymoteusz Paul
Mar 16 '17 at 1:56
@Crazydre it doesn't, once you are cleared you are fine. Matter of cost is for person to decide on their own. Keep in mind that if something goes wrong during landing the expenses will likely be massive (plane tickets, hotel reservation and time spent all gone to hell).
– Tymoteusz Paul
Mar 16 '17 at 1:56
1
1
Of course, but what I wondered was if trying to enter visa-free would cause trouble specifically due to the original visa refusal, even if a (by now expired) visa was obtained afterwards. You gave an answer to that.
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:59
Of course, but what I wondered was if trying to enter visa-free would cause trouble specifically due to the original visa refusal, even if a (by now expired) visa was obtained afterwards. You gave an answer to that.
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 1:59
add a comment |
How did you become visa free? Did you gain new citizenship? If so, then everything from your past is, well, past. At least this is my understanding and interpretation of Dual citizenship passports and visas / https://travel.stackexchange.com/a/64891/4188 .
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
answered Mar 16 '17 at 3:03
chx
37k376183
1
This does not concern me, as I'm nothing but visa-free (even for residence) and have been for my whole life. In the concerned case, yes, they naturalised and became a US citizen, but endured a pain in the neck at Heathrow nonetheless
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:11
1
Perhaps in theory everything from your past is, well, past. In theory your history almost always affects the future.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 6:01
OK, let's escalate this into a question because it is weird.
– chx
Mar 17 '17 at 6:16
Getting a new citizenship does not erase your past. Most countries, including the US for most purposes, allow dual citizens to pick which citizenship they want to use to apply for entry. So as a newly naturalized Canadian, you were able to gain access to a new immigration benefit, namely the visa-free travel enjoyed by Canadians in the US. But your naturalization would not have cleared you of any adverse history such as prior removals, findings of inadmissibility or visa refusals.
– phoog
May 13 '17 at 14:55
add a comment |
How did you become visa free? Did you gain new citizenship? If so, then everything from your past is, well, past. At least this is my understanding and interpretation of Dual citizenship passports and visas / https://travel.stackexchange.com/a/64891/4188 .
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
answered Mar 16 '17 at 3:03
chx
37k376183
1
This does not concern me, as I'm nothing but visa-free (even for residence) and have been for my whole life. In the concerned case, yes, they naturalised and became a US citizen, but endured a pain in the neck at Heathrow nonetheless
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:11
1
Perhaps in theory everything from your past is, well, past. In theory your history almost always affects the future.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 6:01
OK, let's escalate this into a question because it is weird.
– chx
Mar 17 '17 at 6:16
Getting a new citizenship does not erase your past. Most countries, including the US for most purposes, allow dual citizens to pick which citizenship they want to use to apply for entry. So as a newly naturalized Canadian, you were able to gain access to a new immigration benefit, namely the visa-free travel enjoyed by Canadians in the US. But your naturalization would not have cleared you of any adverse history such as prior removals, findings of inadmissibility or visa refusals.
– phoog
May 13 '17 at 14:55
add a comment |
How did you become visa free? Did you gain new citizenship? If so, then everything from your past is, well, past. At least this is my understanding and interpretation of Dual citizenship passports and visas / https://travel.stackexchange.com/a/64891/4188 .
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
answered Mar 16 '17 at 3:03
chx
37k376183
How did you become visa free? Did you gain new citizenship? If so, then everything from your past is, well, past. At least this is my understanding and interpretation of Dual citizenship passports and visas / https://travel.stackexchange.com/a/64891/4188 .
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
1
answered Mar 16 '17 at 3:03
chx
37k376183
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Community♦
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edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
Community♦
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edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:52
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answered Mar 16 '17 at 3:03
chx
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answered Mar 16 '17 at 3:03
chx
37k376183
answered Mar 16 '17 at 3:03
chx
37k376183
37k376183
1
This does not concern me, as I'm nothing but visa-free (even for residence) and have been for my whole life. In the concerned case, yes, they naturalised and became a US citizen, but endured a pain in the neck at Heathrow nonetheless
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:11
1
Perhaps in theory everything from your past is, well, past. In theory your history almost always affects the future.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 6:01
OK, let's escalate this into a question because it is weird.
– chx
Mar 17 '17 at 6:16
Getting a new citizenship does not erase your past. Most countries, including the US for most purposes, allow dual citizens to pick which citizenship they want to use to apply for entry. So as a newly naturalized Canadian, you were able to gain access to a new immigration benefit, namely the visa-free travel enjoyed by Canadians in the US. But your naturalization would not have cleared you of any adverse history such as prior removals, findings of inadmissibility or visa refusals.
– phoog
May 13 '17 at 14:55
add a comment |
1
This does not concern me, as I'm nothing but visa-free (even for residence) and have been for my whole life. In the concerned case, yes, they naturalised and became a US citizen, but endured a pain in the neck at Heathrow nonetheless
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:11
1
Perhaps in theory everything from your past is, well, past. In theory your history almost always affects the future.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 6:01
OK, let's escalate this into a question because it is weird.
– chx
Mar 17 '17 at 6:16
Getting a new citizenship does not erase your past. Most countries, including the US for most purposes, allow dual citizens to pick which citizenship they want to use to apply for entry. So as a newly naturalized Canadian, you were able to gain access to a new immigration benefit, namely the visa-free travel enjoyed by Canadians in the US. But your naturalization would not have cleared you of any adverse history such as prior removals, findings of inadmissibility or visa refusals.
– phoog
May 13 '17 at 14:55
1
1
This does not concern me, as I'm nothing but visa-free (even for residence) and have been for my whole life. In the concerned case, yes, they naturalised and became a US citizen, but endured a pain in the neck at Heathrow nonetheless
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:11
This does not concern me, as I'm nothing but visa-free (even for residence) and have been for my whole life. In the concerned case, yes, they naturalised and became a US citizen, but endured a pain in the neck at Heathrow nonetheless
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:11
1
1
Perhaps in theory everything from your past is, well, past. In theory your history almost always affects the future.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 6:01
Perhaps in theory everything from your past is, well, past. In theory your history almost always affects the future.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 6:01
OK, let's escalate this into a question because it is weird.
– chx
Mar 17 '17 at 6:16
OK, let's escalate this into a question because it is weird.
– chx
Mar 17 '17 at 6:16
Getting a new citizenship does not erase your past. Most countries, including the US for most purposes, allow dual citizens to pick which citizenship they want to use to apply for entry. So as a newly naturalized Canadian, you were able to gain access to a new immigration benefit, namely the visa-free travel enjoyed by Canadians in the US. But your naturalization would not have cleared you of any adverse history such as prior removals, findings of inadmissibility or visa refusals.
– phoog
May 13 '17 at 14:55
Getting a new citizenship does not erase your past. Most countries, including the US for most purposes, allow dual citizens to pick which citizenship they want to use to apply for entry. So as a newly naturalized Canadian, you were able to gain access to a new immigration benefit, namely the visa-free travel enjoyed by Canadians in the US. But your naturalization would not have cleared you of any adverse history such as prior removals, findings of inadmissibility or visa refusals.
– phoog
May 13 '17 at 14:55
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Closely related: Recently naturalized American visiting UK, previously refused. Should I apply for entry clearance? shows what happened to one person who did not apply for an entry clearance before travelling to the UK in a similar circumstance.
– Michael Hampton
Mar 16 '17 at 3:25
@MichaelHampton It's that question that inspired me to write this one
– Crazydre
Mar 16 '17 at 3:29
Perhaps you should note this criteria (of clearing the air via subsequent entry clearance) is UK Specific.
– Honorary World Citizen
Mar 17 '17 at 10:48