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I tried to book a hotel for someone for work, the same hotel I used last time for the same guest. Last time they did not ask me to fill out credit card authorisation form and now they insisted on it. They sent me credit card authorization form to complete and as I started filling it out I started to question myself why should I give business to someone who is treating me like that and decided to go with another hotel. I did not contact them again and assumed that reservation was never made since I did not get any e-mail or call stating that reservation was complete (usually in my experience hotels send reservation details right after you reserve it). So I found another hotel with a friendly staff and made a reservation.
On the day of the trip I got a call from this hotel asking when I will send in credit card authorisation form.
It was early in the morning so by mistake I said that I completed it thinking that it was the hotel with whom I booked the trip then I told them I will check my records and will call them back. Later I sent an e-mail stating that I went with another hotel. Then they replied saying that they will charge me for one night because of the late cancellation of the reservation.
How is this legal if the reservation was never confirmed? Can I dispute this charge and ask credit card company to refuse this charge?










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    There was no terms and conditions from the hotel to accept because I tried to make reservation over the phone. For sure if I would fill out cc authorisation form that would mean I accept it but I did not fill it out. Now they are saying they will speak to one of the employee who frequently stays in that hotel, he has nothing to do with this reservation and he is not even my boss.
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    Jun 26 '17 at 19:56






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    If you never filled out the cc auth form, how are they going to charge the card...? What charge would there be to dispute...? Did you give details over the phone? What country is this?
    – Moo
    Jun 26 '17 at 19:59






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    Whether it is "fair" or not is a two sided story - they booked the room, you decided midway through payment authorisation you didn't want the room and assumed it would simply go away, it didn't, they held the room and followed it up, you misled them (maybe by accident) and now they want to charge you for the room held. You should have told them outright when you decided to book elsewhere that you didn't need the room.
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    Jun 26 '17 at 20:36






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    I don't understand. You booked a room, they asked you to fill out an authorization form because you're paying for the room but not staying there (this is something the hotel can use to help protect themselves against fraud), you got mad for some reason and completely disappeared on them without telling them you were cancelling, they held the room for you, and now you refuse to pay for the room you reserved? When you booked the room, were you aware the hotel charges if you don't cancel within a certain period of time? Most hotels make that reasonably explicit.
    – Zach Lipton
    Jun 26 '17 at 21:59







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    Or, to put it another way, suppose you didn't fill out the authorization form because you were busy or forgot about it. Then the hotel cancelled the reservation and gave the room away to someone else without asking you. Would you have been upset?
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    Jun 26 '17 at 22:02














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I tried to book a hotel for someone for work, the same hotel I used last time for the same guest. Last time they did not ask me to fill out credit card authorisation form and now they insisted on it. They sent me credit card authorization form to complete and as I started filling it out I started to question myself why should I give business to someone who is treating me like that and decided to go with another hotel. I did not contact them again and assumed that reservation was never made since I did not get any e-mail or call stating that reservation was complete (usually in my experience hotels send reservation details right after you reserve it). So I found another hotel with a friendly staff and made a reservation.
On the day of the trip I got a call from this hotel asking when I will send in credit card authorisation form.
It was early in the morning so by mistake I said that I completed it thinking that it was the hotel with whom I booked the trip then I told them I will check my records and will call them back. Later I sent an e-mail stating that I went with another hotel. Then they replied saying that they will charge me for one night because of the late cancellation of the reservation.
How is this legal if the reservation was never confirmed? Can I dispute this charge and ask credit card company to refuse this charge?










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  • 1




    There was no terms and conditions from the hotel to accept because I tried to make reservation over the phone. For sure if I would fill out cc authorisation form that would mean I accept it but I did not fill it out. Now they are saying they will speak to one of the employee who frequently stays in that hotel, he has nothing to do with this reservation and he is not even my boss.
    – Zhanna
    Jun 26 '17 at 19:56






  • 2




    If you never filled out the cc auth form, how are they going to charge the card...? What charge would there be to dispute...? Did you give details over the phone? What country is this?
    – Moo
    Jun 26 '17 at 19:59






  • 1




    Whether it is "fair" or not is a two sided story - they booked the room, you decided midway through payment authorisation you didn't want the room and assumed it would simply go away, it didn't, they held the room and followed it up, you misled them (maybe by accident) and now they want to charge you for the room held. You should have told them outright when you decided to book elsewhere that you didn't need the room.
    – Moo
    Jun 26 '17 at 20:36






  • 3




    I don't understand. You booked a room, they asked you to fill out an authorization form because you're paying for the room but not staying there (this is something the hotel can use to help protect themselves against fraud), you got mad for some reason and completely disappeared on them without telling them you were cancelling, they held the room for you, and now you refuse to pay for the room you reserved? When you booked the room, were you aware the hotel charges if you don't cancel within a certain period of time? Most hotels make that reasonably explicit.
    – Zach Lipton
    Jun 26 '17 at 21:59







  • 1




    Or, to put it another way, suppose you didn't fill out the authorization form because you were busy or forgot about it. Then the hotel cancelled the reservation and gave the room away to someone else without asking you. Would you have been upset?
    – Zach Lipton
    Jun 26 '17 at 22:02












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I tried to book a hotel for someone for work, the same hotel I used last time for the same guest. Last time they did not ask me to fill out credit card authorisation form and now they insisted on it. They sent me credit card authorization form to complete and as I started filling it out I started to question myself why should I give business to someone who is treating me like that and decided to go with another hotel. I did not contact them again and assumed that reservation was never made since I did not get any e-mail or call stating that reservation was complete (usually in my experience hotels send reservation details right after you reserve it). So I found another hotel with a friendly staff and made a reservation.
On the day of the trip I got a call from this hotel asking when I will send in credit card authorisation form.
It was early in the morning so by mistake I said that I completed it thinking that it was the hotel with whom I booked the trip then I told them I will check my records and will call them back. Later I sent an e-mail stating that I went with another hotel. Then they replied saying that they will charge me for one night because of the late cancellation of the reservation.
How is this legal if the reservation was never confirmed? Can I dispute this charge and ask credit card company to refuse this charge?










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I tried to book a hotel for someone for work, the same hotel I used last time for the same guest. Last time they did not ask me to fill out credit card authorisation form and now they insisted on it. They sent me credit card authorization form to complete and as I started filling it out I started to question myself why should I give business to someone who is treating me like that and decided to go with another hotel. I did not contact them again and assumed that reservation was never made since I did not get any e-mail or call stating that reservation was complete (usually in my experience hotels send reservation details right after you reserve it). So I found another hotel with a friendly staff and made a reservation.
On the day of the trip I got a call from this hotel asking when I will send in credit card authorisation form.
It was early in the morning so by mistake I said that I completed it thinking that it was the hotel with whom I booked the trip then I told them I will check my records and will call them back. Later I sent an e-mail stating that I went with another hotel. Then they replied saying that they will charge me for one night because of the late cancellation of the reservation.
How is this legal if the reservation was never confirmed? Can I dispute this charge and ask credit card company to refuse this charge?







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    There was no terms and conditions from the hotel to accept because I tried to make reservation over the phone. For sure if I would fill out cc authorisation form that would mean I accept it but I did not fill it out. Now they are saying they will speak to one of the employee who frequently stays in that hotel, he has nothing to do with this reservation and he is not even my boss.
    – Zhanna
    Jun 26 '17 at 19:56






  • 2




    If you never filled out the cc auth form, how are they going to charge the card...? What charge would there be to dispute...? Did you give details over the phone? What country is this?
    – Moo
    Jun 26 '17 at 19:59






  • 1




    Whether it is "fair" or not is a two sided story - they booked the room, you decided midway through payment authorisation you didn't want the room and assumed it would simply go away, it didn't, they held the room and followed it up, you misled them (maybe by accident) and now they want to charge you for the room held. You should have told them outright when you decided to book elsewhere that you didn't need the room.
    – Moo
    Jun 26 '17 at 20:36






  • 3




    I don't understand. You booked a room, they asked you to fill out an authorization form because you're paying for the room but not staying there (this is something the hotel can use to help protect themselves against fraud), you got mad for some reason and completely disappeared on them without telling them you were cancelling, they held the room for you, and now you refuse to pay for the room you reserved? When you booked the room, were you aware the hotel charges if you don't cancel within a certain period of time? Most hotels make that reasonably explicit.
    – Zach Lipton
    Jun 26 '17 at 21:59







  • 1




    Or, to put it another way, suppose you didn't fill out the authorization form because you were busy or forgot about it. Then the hotel cancelled the reservation and gave the room away to someone else without asking you. Would you have been upset?
    – Zach Lipton
    Jun 26 '17 at 22:02












  • 1




    There was no terms and conditions from the hotel to accept because I tried to make reservation over the phone. For sure if I would fill out cc authorisation form that would mean I accept it but I did not fill it out. Now they are saying they will speak to one of the employee who frequently stays in that hotel, he has nothing to do with this reservation and he is not even my boss.
    – Zhanna
    Jun 26 '17 at 19:56






  • 2




    If you never filled out the cc auth form, how are they going to charge the card...? What charge would there be to dispute...? Did you give details over the phone? What country is this?
    – Moo
    Jun 26 '17 at 19:59






  • 1




    Whether it is "fair" or not is a two sided story - they booked the room, you decided midway through payment authorisation you didn't want the room and assumed it would simply go away, it didn't, they held the room and followed it up, you misled them (maybe by accident) and now they want to charge you for the room held. You should have told them outright when you decided to book elsewhere that you didn't need the room.
    – Moo
    Jun 26 '17 at 20:36






  • 3




    I don't understand. You booked a room, they asked you to fill out an authorization form because you're paying for the room but not staying there (this is something the hotel can use to help protect themselves against fraud), you got mad for some reason and completely disappeared on them without telling them you were cancelling, they held the room for you, and now you refuse to pay for the room you reserved? When you booked the room, were you aware the hotel charges if you don't cancel within a certain period of time? Most hotels make that reasonably explicit.
    – Zach Lipton
    Jun 26 '17 at 21:59







  • 1




    Or, to put it another way, suppose you didn't fill out the authorization form because you were busy or forgot about it. Then the hotel cancelled the reservation and gave the room away to someone else without asking you. Would you have been upset?
    – Zach Lipton
    Jun 26 '17 at 22:02







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There was no terms and conditions from the hotel to accept because I tried to make reservation over the phone. For sure if I would fill out cc authorisation form that would mean I accept it but I did not fill it out. Now they are saying they will speak to one of the employee who frequently stays in that hotel, he has nothing to do with this reservation and he is not even my boss.
– Zhanna
Jun 26 '17 at 19:56




There was no terms and conditions from the hotel to accept because I tried to make reservation over the phone. For sure if I would fill out cc authorisation form that would mean I accept it but I did not fill it out. Now they are saying they will speak to one of the employee who frequently stays in that hotel, he has nothing to do with this reservation and he is not even my boss.
– Zhanna
Jun 26 '17 at 19:56




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If you never filled out the cc auth form, how are they going to charge the card...? What charge would there be to dispute...? Did you give details over the phone? What country is this?
– Moo
Jun 26 '17 at 19:59




If you never filled out the cc auth form, how are they going to charge the card...? What charge would there be to dispute...? Did you give details over the phone? What country is this?
– Moo
Jun 26 '17 at 19:59




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Whether it is "fair" or not is a two sided story - they booked the room, you decided midway through payment authorisation you didn't want the room and assumed it would simply go away, it didn't, they held the room and followed it up, you misled them (maybe by accident) and now they want to charge you for the room held. You should have told them outright when you decided to book elsewhere that you didn't need the room.
– Moo
Jun 26 '17 at 20:36




Whether it is "fair" or not is a two sided story - they booked the room, you decided midway through payment authorisation you didn't want the room and assumed it would simply go away, it didn't, they held the room and followed it up, you misled them (maybe by accident) and now they want to charge you for the room held. You should have told them outright when you decided to book elsewhere that you didn't need the room.
– Moo
Jun 26 '17 at 20:36




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I don't understand. You booked a room, they asked you to fill out an authorization form because you're paying for the room but not staying there (this is something the hotel can use to help protect themselves against fraud), you got mad for some reason and completely disappeared on them without telling them you were cancelling, they held the room for you, and now you refuse to pay for the room you reserved? When you booked the room, were you aware the hotel charges if you don't cancel within a certain period of time? Most hotels make that reasonably explicit.
– Zach Lipton
Jun 26 '17 at 21:59





I don't understand. You booked a room, they asked you to fill out an authorization form because you're paying for the room but not staying there (this is something the hotel can use to help protect themselves against fraud), you got mad for some reason and completely disappeared on them without telling them you were cancelling, they held the room for you, and now you refuse to pay for the room you reserved? When you booked the room, were you aware the hotel charges if you don't cancel within a certain period of time? Most hotels make that reasonably explicit.
– Zach Lipton
Jun 26 '17 at 21:59





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Or, to put it another way, suppose you didn't fill out the authorization form because you were busy or forgot about it. Then the hotel cancelled the reservation and gave the room away to someone else without asking you. Would you have been upset?
– Zach Lipton
Jun 26 '17 at 22:02




Or, to put it another way, suppose you didn't fill out the authorization form because you were busy or forgot about it. Then the hotel cancelled the reservation and gave the room away to someone else without asking you. Would you have been upset?
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This question comes down to three:




  1. Can the hotel charge your credit card (which they may have on file)?



    In your particular case it seems like you never authorized the charge for this particular night, since they required you to send the form as part of making the reservation. You did not send the form, and thus had no reservation. This also means they cannot charge your credit card - even if they got the number from other sources - as it would be unauthorized charge. If they do, I suggest calling the hotel and pointing out that unless they refund it right away, you will dispute it with your credit card company as unauthorized charge. Because the hotel does not have your authorization for this particular change, they would not be able to provide the evidence for dispute.



    And if they refuse to refund it, then file a dispute. Some businesses wrongly assume that they can charge you as long as they have your credit card details and they believe you owe them money. This is not correct. If the business believes you owe them, but you disagree (and thus do not authorize the charge), this means you have a civil dispute which should be resolved through legal means - negotiation, mediation, or court processing. This is not a carte blanche - you may still be find liable, and would have to pay way more than the initial charge - including interest, court costs and attorney fees - but that's the legal way to resolve civil disputes.




  2. Can the hotel try to charge you some other way?



    Yes. They can send you a bill. You can ignore, but I recommend writing back to them and explain your story - they insisted for the authorization form to confirm the reservation, which you refused to send, so you assumed that the reservation was never made. This was supported by the fact that you haven't received any documents confirming the reservation (and thus if you appeared, the hotel could have said you had no reservation).



    There is also a chance they can go to court, but this doesn't seem likely. Not only the one night charge is unlikely to justify the effort, but the case doesn't seem to be strong for the hotel.




  3. What should I do now?



    I would reply to the email the hotel sent to you, and explain the situation. They required the authorization to confirm the reservation, you did not submit authorization and thus forfeited this reservation. This means the hotel had no obligation to hold a room for you, but also this means the hotel could not charge anything. If the hotel doesn't have procedure in place to release reservations for which the form was not timely received, this is not your fault. State explicitly that you did NOT sign and send them the authorization form, and thus any charge they attempt will be treated by you as unauthorized, and will be disputed. That shall do.







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    This question comes down to three:




    1. Can the hotel charge your credit card (which they may have on file)?



      In your particular case it seems like you never authorized the charge for this particular night, since they required you to send the form as part of making the reservation. You did not send the form, and thus had no reservation. This also means they cannot charge your credit card - even if they got the number from other sources - as it would be unauthorized charge. If they do, I suggest calling the hotel and pointing out that unless they refund it right away, you will dispute it with your credit card company as unauthorized charge. Because the hotel does not have your authorization for this particular change, they would not be able to provide the evidence for dispute.



      And if they refuse to refund it, then file a dispute. Some businesses wrongly assume that they can charge you as long as they have your credit card details and they believe you owe them money. This is not correct. If the business believes you owe them, but you disagree (and thus do not authorize the charge), this means you have a civil dispute which should be resolved through legal means - negotiation, mediation, or court processing. This is not a carte blanche - you may still be find liable, and would have to pay way more than the initial charge - including interest, court costs and attorney fees - but that's the legal way to resolve civil disputes.




    2. Can the hotel try to charge you some other way?



      Yes. They can send you a bill. You can ignore, but I recommend writing back to them and explain your story - they insisted for the authorization form to confirm the reservation, which you refused to send, so you assumed that the reservation was never made. This was supported by the fact that you haven't received any documents confirming the reservation (and thus if you appeared, the hotel could have said you had no reservation).



      There is also a chance they can go to court, but this doesn't seem likely. Not only the one night charge is unlikely to justify the effort, but the case doesn't seem to be strong for the hotel.




    3. What should I do now?



      I would reply to the email the hotel sent to you, and explain the situation. They required the authorization to confirm the reservation, you did not submit authorization and thus forfeited this reservation. This means the hotel had no obligation to hold a room for you, but also this means the hotel could not charge anything. If the hotel doesn't have procedure in place to release reservations for which the form was not timely received, this is not your fault. State explicitly that you did NOT sign and send them the authorization form, and thus any charge they attempt will be treated by you as unauthorized, and will be disputed. That shall do.







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      This question comes down to three:




      1. Can the hotel charge your credit card (which they may have on file)?



        In your particular case it seems like you never authorized the charge for this particular night, since they required you to send the form as part of making the reservation. You did not send the form, and thus had no reservation. This also means they cannot charge your credit card - even if they got the number from other sources - as it would be unauthorized charge. If they do, I suggest calling the hotel and pointing out that unless they refund it right away, you will dispute it with your credit card company as unauthorized charge. Because the hotel does not have your authorization for this particular change, they would not be able to provide the evidence for dispute.



        And if they refuse to refund it, then file a dispute. Some businesses wrongly assume that they can charge you as long as they have your credit card details and they believe you owe them money. This is not correct. If the business believes you owe them, but you disagree (and thus do not authorize the charge), this means you have a civil dispute which should be resolved through legal means - negotiation, mediation, or court processing. This is not a carte blanche - you may still be find liable, and would have to pay way more than the initial charge - including interest, court costs and attorney fees - but that's the legal way to resolve civil disputes.




      2. Can the hotel try to charge you some other way?



        Yes. They can send you a bill. You can ignore, but I recommend writing back to them and explain your story - they insisted for the authorization form to confirm the reservation, which you refused to send, so you assumed that the reservation was never made. This was supported by the fact that you haven't received any documents confirming the reservation (and thus if you appeared, the hotel could have said you had no reservation).



        There is also a chance they can go to court, but this doesn't seem likely. Not only the one night charge is unlikely to justify the effort, but the case doesn't seem to be strong for the hotel.




      3. What should I do now?



        I would reply to the email the hotel sent to you, and explain the situation. They required the authorization to confirm the reservation, you did not submit authorization and thus forfeited this reservation. This means the hotel had no obligation to hold a room for you, but also this means the hotel could not charge anything. If the hotel doesn't have procedure in place to release reservations for which the form was not timely received, this is not your fault. State explicitly that you did NOT sign and send them the authorization form, and thus any charge they attempt will be treated by you as unauthorized, and will be disputed. That shall do.







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        This question comes down to three:




        1. Can the hotel charge your credit card (which they may have on file)?



          In your particular case it seems like you never authorized the charge for this particular night, since they required you to send the form as part of making the reservation. You did not send the form, and thus had no reservation. This also means they cannot charge your credit card - even if they got the number from other sources - as it would be unauthorized charge. If they do, I suggest calling the hotel and pointing out that unless they refund it right away, you will dispute it with your credit card company as unauthorized charge. Because the hotel does not have your authorization for this particular change, they would not be able to provide the evidence for dispute.



          And if they refuse to refund it, then file a dispute. Some businesses wrongly assume that they can charge you as long as they have your credit card details and they believe you owe them money. This is not correct. If the business believes you owe them, but you disagree (and thus do not authorize the charge), this means you have a civil dispute which should be resolved through legal means - negotiation, mediation, or court processing. This is not a carte blanche - you may still be find liable, and would have to pay way more than the initial charge - including interest, court costs and attorney fees - but that's the legal way to resolve civil disputes.




        2. Can the hotel try to charge you some other way?



          Yes. They can send you a bill. You can ignore, but I recommend writing back to them and explain your story - they insisted for the authorization form to confirm the reservation, which you refused to send, so you assumed that the reservation was never made. This was supported by the fact that you haven't received any documents confirming the reservation (and thus if you appeared, the hotel could have said you had no reservation).



          There is also a chance they can go to court, but this doesn't seem likely. Not only the one night charge is unlikely to justify the effort, but the case doesn't seem to be strong for the hotel.




        3. What should I do now?



          I would reply to the email the hotel sent to you, and explain the situation. They required the authorization to confirm the reservation, you did not submit authorization and thus forfeited this reservation. This means the hotel had no obligation to hold a room for you, but also this means the hotel could not charge anything. If the hotel doesn't have procedure in place to release reservations for which the form was not timely received, this is not your fault. State explicitly that you did NOT sign and send them the authorization form, and thus any charge they attempt will be treated by you as unauthorized, and will be disputed. That shall do.







        share|improve this answer














        This question comes down to three:




        1. Can the hotel charge your credit card (which they may have on file)?



          In your particular case it seems like you never authorized the charge for this particular night, since they required you to send the form as part of making the reservation. You did not send the form, and thus had no reservation. This also means they cannot charge your credit card - even if they got the number from other sources - as it would be unauthorized charge. If they do, I suggest calling the hotel and pointing out that unless they refund it right away, you will dispute it with your credit card company as unauthorized charge. Because the hotel does not have your authorization for this particular change, they would not be able to provide the evidence for dispute.



          And if they refuse to refund it, then file a dispute. Some businesses wrongly assume that they can charge you as long as they have your credit card details and they believe you owe them money. This is not correct. If the business believes you owe them, but you disagree (and thus do not authorize the charge), this means you have a civil dispute which should be resolved through legal means - negotiation, mediation, or court processing. This is not a carte blanche - you may still be find liable, and would have to pay way more than the initial charge - including interest, court costs and attorney fees - but that's the legal way to resolve civil disputes.




        2. Can the hotel try to charge you some other way?



          Yes. They can send you a bill. You can ignore, but I recommend writing back to them and explain your story - they insisted for the authorization form to confirm the reservation, which you refused to send, so you assumed that the reservation was never made. This was supported by the fact that you haven't received any documents confirming the reservation (and thus if you appeared, the hotel could have said you had no reservation).



          There is also a chance they can go to court, but this doesn't seem likely. Not only the one night charge is unlikely to justify the effort, but the case doesn't seem to be strong for the hotel.




        3. What should I do now?



          I would reply to the email the hotel sent to you, and explain the situation. They required the authorization to confirm the reservation, you did not submit authorization and thus forfeited this reservation. This means the hotel had no obligation to hold a room for you, but also this means the hotel could not charge anything. If the hotel doesn't have procedure in place to release reservations for which the form was not timely received, this is not your fault. State explicitly that you did NOT sign and send them the authorization form, and thus any charge they attempt will be treated by you as unauthorized, and will be disputed. That shall do.








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