Are visa-free visitors to Ireland less likely to be denied entry when compared to the UK?
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We have an extensive database of questions on this site about various problems when crossing the UK border. Citizens of nationalities who are visa-free for both Ireland and the UK might therefore consider entering the Common Travel Area through an immigration point in Ireland, especially if they've previously had issues with border control in the UK. Some people might also believe that they might "obfuscate" their problems with the UK authorities by entering through Ireland.
Would this strategy make sense, considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British borders? And would Irish immigration officers have complete knowledge about previous entries to the UK by the arriving person?
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We have an extensive database of questions on this site about various problems when crossing the UK border. Citizens of nationalities who are visa-free for both Ireland and the UK might therefore consider entering the Common Travel Area through an immigration point in Ireland, especially if they've previously had issues with border control in the UK. Some people might also believe that they might "obfuscate" their problems with the UK authorities by entering through Ireland.
Would this strategy make sense, considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British borders? And would Irish immigration officers have complete knowledge about previous entries to the UK by the arriving person?
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asked Aug 21 '17 at 11:39
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considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British bordersWhere are the aforementioned statistics?
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:05
@PaulofOsawatomieأبوعمار that's what I'm asking :)
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:07
From my very limited personal sample size, even within the UK there are differences in the difference of strictness of enforcement at the borders. From an episode I watched of UK Border Force even the immigration officer at Heathrow implied it is a softer landing through Dublin. youtube.com/watch?v=nWsMQ7mY1V4
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:13
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We have an extensive database of questions on this site about various problems when crossing the UK border. Citizens of nationalities who are visa-free for both Ireland and the UK might therefore consider entering the Common Travel Area through an immigration point in Ireland, especially if they've previously had issues with border control in the UK. Some people might also believe that they might "obfuscate" their problems with the UK authorities by entering through Ireland.
Would this strategy make sense, considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British borders? And would Irish immigration officers have complete knowledge about previous entries to the UK by the arriving person?
uk customs-and-immigration ireland visa-free-entry
asked Aug 21 '17 at 11:39
JonathanReez♦
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We have an extensive database of questions on this site about various problems when crossing the UK border. Citizens of nationalities who are visa-free for both Ireland and the UK might therefore consider entering the Common Travel Area through an immigration point in Ireland, especially if they've previously had issues with border control in the UK. Some people might also believe that they might "obfuscate" their problems with the UK authorities by entering through Ireland.
Would this strategy make sense, considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British borders? And would Irish immigration officers have complete knowledge about previous entries to the UK by the arriving person?
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uk customs-and-immigration ireland visa-free-entry
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considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British bordersWhere are the aforementioned statistics?
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:05
@PaulofOsawatomieأبوعمار that's what I'm asking :)
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:07
From my very limited personal sample size, even within the UK there are differences in the difference of strictness of enforcement at the borders. From an episode I watched of UK Border Force even the immigration officer at Heathrow implied it is a softer landing through Dublin. youtube.com/watch?v=nWsMQ7mY1V4
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:13
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considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British bordersWhere are the aforementioned statistics?
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:05
@PaulofOsawatomieأبوعمار that's what I'm asking :)
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:07
From my very limited personal sample size, even within the UK there are differences in the difference of strictness of enforcement at the borders. From an episode I watched of UK Border Force even the immigration officer at Heathrow implied it is a softer landing through Dublin. youtube.com/watch?v=nWsMQ7mY1V4
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:13
considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British borders Where are the aforementioned statistics?– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:05
considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British borders Where are the aforementioned statistics?– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:05
@PaulofOsawatomieأبوعمار that's what I'm asking :)
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:07
@PaulofOsawatomieأبوعمار that's what I'm asking :)
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:07
From my very limited personal sample size, even within the UK there are differences in the difference of strictness of enforcement at the borders. From an episode I watched of UK Border Force even the immigration officer at Heathrow implied it is a softer landing through Dublin. youtube.com/watch?v=nWsMQ7mY1V4
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:13
From my very limited personal sample size, even within the UK there are differences in the difference of strictness of enforcement at the borders. From an episode I watched of UK Border Force even the immigration officer at Heathrow implied it is a softer landing through Dublin. youtube.com/watch?v=nWsMQ7mY1V4
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:13
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UK entry refusals are marked in passports, using a date stamp across which two lines are drawn.
When Irish officials see this, if they suspect the passenger could be using Ireland as a mere backdoor, they will refuse entry.
Even stated in Timatic:
Visitors holding passports containing a British inadmissible
stamp could be refused entry.
That said, in my experience Irish border officials are way more lax than their British counterparts, and may well not notice a UK refusal stamp.
So all-in-all, this backdoor strategy could work (if you get on the plane in the first place - a meticulous check-in agent could refuse boarding to someone with a UK refusal stamp), but it's not guaranteed to.
answered Aug 21 '17 at 12:01
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The passport thing is not a problem - people routinely change them anyway when they expire. So the question is primarily about the shared CTA databases.
– JonathanReez♦
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UK entry refusals are marked in passports, using a date stamp across which two lines are drawn.
When Irish officials see this, if they suspect the passenger could be using Ireland as a mere backdoor, they will refuse entry.
Even stated in Timatic:
Visitors holding passports containing a British inadmissible
stamp could be refused entry.
That said, in my experience Irish border officials are way more lax than their British counterparts, and may well not notice a UK refusal stamp.
So all-in-all, this backdoor strategy could work (if you get on the plane in the first place - a meticulous check-in agent could refuse boarding to someone with a UK refusal stamp), but it's not guaranteed to.
answered Aug 21 '17 at 12:01
Coke
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The passport thing is not a problem - people routinely change them anyway when they expire. So the question is primarily about the shared CTA databases.
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:03
add a comment |
up vote
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UK entry refusals are marked in passports, using a date stamp across which two lines are drawn.
When Irish officials see this, if they suspect the passenger could be using Ireland as a mere backdoor, they will refuse entry.
Even stated in Timatic:
Visitors holding passports containing a British inadmissible
stamp could be refused entry.
That said, in my experience Irish border officials are way more lax than their British counterparts, and may well not notice a UK refusal stamp.
So all-in-all, this backdoor strategy could work (if you get on the plane in the first place - a meticulous check-in agent could refuse boarding to someone with a UK refusal stamp), but it's not guaranteed to.
answered Aug 21 '17 at 12:01
Coke
50.4k990224
The passport thing is not a problem - people routinely change them anyway when they expire. So the question is primarily about the shared CTA databases.
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:03
add a comment |
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
UK entry refusals are marked in passports, using a date stamp across which two lines are drawn.
When Irish officials see this, if they suspect the passenger could be using Ireland as a mere backdoor, they will refuse entry.
Even stated in Timatic:
Visitors holding passports containing a British inadmissible
stamp could be refused entry.
That said, in my experience Irish border officials are way more lax than their British counterparts, and may well not notice a UK refusal stamp.
So all-in-all, this backdoor strategy could work (if you get on the plane in the first place - a meticulous check-in agent could refuse boarding to someone with a UK refusal stamp), but it's not guaranteed to.
answered Aug 21 '17 at 12:01
Coke
50.4k990224
UK entry refusals are marked in passports, using a date stamp across which two lines are drawn.
When Irish officials see this, if they suspect the passenger could be using Ireland as a mere backdoor, they will refuse entry.
Even stated in Timatic:
Visitors holding passports containing a British inadmissible
stamp could be refused entry.
That said, in my experience Irish border officials are way more lax than their British counterparts, and may well not notice a UK refusal stamp.
So all-in-all, this backdoor strategy could work (if you get on the plane in the first place - a meticulous check-in agent could refuse boarding to someone with a UK refusal stamp), but it's not guaranteed to.
answered Aug 21 '17 at 12:01
Coke
50.4k990224
answered Aug 21 '17 at 12:01
Coke
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answered Aug 21 '17 at 12:01
Coke
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answered Aug 21 '17 at 12:01
Coke
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50.4k990224
The passport thing is not a problem - people routinely change them anyway when they expire. So the question is primarily about the shared CTA databases.
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:03
add a comment |
The passport thing is not a problem - people routinely change them anyway when they expire. So the question is primarily about the shared CTA databases.
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:03
The passport thing is not a problem - people routinely change them anyway when they expire. So the question is primarily about the shared CTA databases.
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:03
The passport thing is not a problem - people routinely change them anyway when they expire. So the question is primarily about the shared CTA databases.
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:03
add a comment |
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considering whatever statistics are available about denials of entry at Irish and British bordersWhere are the aforementioned statistics?– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:05
@PaulofOsawatomieأبوعمار that's what I'm asking :)
– JonathanReez♦
Aug 21 '17 at 12:07
From my very limited personal sample size, even within the UK there are differences in the difference of strictness of enforcement at the borders. From an episode I watched of UK Border Force even the immigration officer at Heathrow implied it is a softer landing through Dublin. youtube.com/watch?v=nWsMQ7mY1V4
– Honorary World Citizen
Aug 21 '17 at 12:13