Staying 92 days in the Schengen area
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My girlfriend is from Peru and has been 83 days in France since July.
She is coming in December until February where we will both leave the Schengen area.
We planned to leave Europe for a few days (using http://www.schengen-calculator.com, it says she needs to leave for 11 days) but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Is it a big deal to leave after 92 days? Is there any other solution?
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asked Dec 7 '17 at 14:59
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My girlfriend is from Peru and has been 83 days in France since July.
She is coming in December until February where we will both leave the Schengen area.
We planned to leave Europe for a few days (using http://www.schengen-calculator.com, it says she needs to leave for 11 days) but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Is it a big deal to leave after 92 days? Is there any other solution?
visas schengen
asked Dec 7 '17 at 14:59
Adrien Neveu
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It is a big deal in that any overstay may adversely affect her ability to get a visa in the future.
– Johns-305
Dec 7 '17 at 15:15
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You don't need to leave Europe, of course. You can also go to European countries that are not part of Schengen. The UK, Ireland, the channel islands, Croatia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, Ukraine, Belarus, and others are possible choices.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 15:34
According to Wikipedia, Peruvians need an advance visa for UK/Ireland, which would be hard to get when already in France. All the other choices will work.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:09
Is Gibraltar another option?
– WGroleau
Dec 7 '17 at 18:38
2
The 90/180 counter does not reset on exit from Schengen to the UK. The 180 is taken as a moving window. I think you will need a back-up plan for refusal of a UK visa, as they may be reluctant to entertain the application in France, where she is merely a tourist.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 20:58
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up vote
4
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up vote
4
down vote
favorite
My girlfriend is from Peru and has been 83 days in France since July.
She is coming in December until February where we will both leave the Schengen area.
We planned to leave Europe for a few days (using http://www.schengen-calculator.com, it says she needs to leave for 11 days) but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Is it a big deal to leave after 92 days? Is there any other solution?
visas schengen
asked Dec 7 '17 at 14:59
Adrien Neveu
1452
My girlfriend is from Peru and has been 83 days in France since July.
She is coming in December until February where we will both leave the Schengen area.
We planned to leave Europe for a few days (using http://www.schengen-calculator.com, it says she needs to leave for 11 days) but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Is it a big deal to leave after 92 days? Is there any other solution?
visas schengen
visas schengen
asked Dec 7 '17 at 14:59
Adrien Neveu
1452
asked Dec 7 '17 at 14:59
Adrien Neveu
1452
asked Dec 7 '17 at 14:59
Adrien Neveu
1452
asked Dec 7 '17 at 14:59
Adrien Neveu
1452
asked Dec 7 '17 at 14:59
Adrien Neveu
1452
1452
2
It is a big deal in that any overstay may adversely affect her ability to get a visa in the future.
– Johns-305
Dec 7 '17 at 15:15
1
You don't need to leave Europe, of course. You can also go to European countries that are not part of Schengen. The UK, Ireland, the channel islands, Croatia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, Ukraine, Belarus, and others are possible choices.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 15:34
According to Wikipedia, Peruvians need an advance visa for UK/Ireland, which would be hard to get when already in France. All the other choices will work.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:09
Is Gibraltar another option?
– WGroleau
Dec 7 '17 at 18:38
2
The 90/180 counter does not reset on exit from Schengen to the UK. The 180 is taken as a moving window. I think you will need a back-up plan for refusal of a UK visa, as they may be reluctant to entertain the application in France, where she is merely a tourist.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 20:58
 |Â
show 6 more comments
2
It is a big deal in that any overstay may adversely affect her ability to get a visa in the future.
– Johns-305
Dec 7 '17 at 15:15
1
You don't need to leave Europe, of course. You can also go to European countries that are not part of Schengen. The UK, Ireland, the channel islands, Croatia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, Ukraine, Belarus, and others are possible choices.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 15:34
According to Wikipedia, Peruvians need an advance visa for UK/Ireland, which would be hard to get when already in France. All the other choices will work.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:09
Is Gibraltar another option?
– WGroleau
Dec 7 '17 at 18:38
2
The 90/180 counter does not reset on exit from Schengen to the UK. The 180 is taken as a moving window. I think you will need a back-up plan for refusal of a UK visa, as they may be reluctant to entertain the application in France, where she is merely a tourist.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 20:58
2
2
It is a big deal in that any overstay may adversely affect her ability to get a visa in the future.
– Johns-305
Dec 7 '17 at 15:15
It is a big deal in that any overstay may adversely affect her ability to get a visa in the future.
– Johns-305
Dec 7 '17 at 15:15
1
1
You don't need to leave Europe, of course. You can also go to European countries that are not part of Schengen. The UK, Ireland, the channel islands, Croatia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, Ukraine, Belarus, and others are possible choices.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 15:34
You don't need to leave Europe, of course. You can also go to European countries that are not part of Schengen. The UK, Ireland, the channel islands, Croatia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, Ukraine, Belarus, and others are possible choices.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 15:34
According to Wikipedia, Peruvians need an advance visa for UK/Ireland, which would be hard to get when already in France. All the other choices will work.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:09
According to Wikipedia, Peruvians need an advance visa for UK/Ireland, which would be hard to get when already in France. All the other choices will work.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:09
Is Gibraltar another option?
– WGroleau
Dec 7 '17 at 18:38
Is Gibraltar another option?
– WGroleau
Dec 7 '17 at 18:38
2
2
The 90/180 counter does not reset on exit from Schengen to the UK. The 180 is taken as a moving window. I think you will need a back-up plan for refusal of a UK visa, as they may be reluctant to entertain the application in France, where she is merely a tourist.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 20:58
The 90/180 counter does not reset on exit from Schengen to the UK. The 180 is taken as a moving window. I think you will need a back-up plan for refusal of a UK visa, as they may be reluctant to entertain the application in France, where she is merely a tourist.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 20:58
 |Â
show 6 more comments
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4
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I highly recommend not to overstay only to save a couple of euros.
If you save a huge amount of money (which I doubt) you can consider to do a city trip outside schengen area and so save those 3-4 days you need. However, this will be probably more money in total.
Edit: Relaxed is right, I somehow forgot this detail in the first part of my answer. Visa extension is only possible in the way o.m. described
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:36
Gnusper
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This would not help at all in this case. Visa extensions are useful for people who have a visa about to expire but who haven't stayed 90 days yet. The OP's girlfriend does not have nor need a visa but she would have stayed 90 days.
– Relaxed
Dec 7 '17 at 15:41
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4
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Saving money is no excuse to overstay.
There might be reasons to extend a visa, for humanitarian or medical reasons and the like, but just saving money is not among them.
- In theory, she could try and get a D national visa from a Schengen state. In practice, that's not a realistic option in the timeframe.
- If you are an EU/EEA citizen, and if you can show a permanent domestic relationship, it might be possible to get a family permit in EU countries other than your homeland. Ask at Expatriates SE.
But most likely user Hanky Panky is right -- just get out within the time limit.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:32
o.m.
20.2k23152
Some countries, including Spain and Italy, offer rights to the family of their citizens that are comparable to those offered to family of citizens of other EU countries.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 16:31
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Then don't buy the cheapest tickets, buy the cheaper ones. Problems caused by overstaying your visa are far more costlier than the cost of paying some extra money for tickets.
Nobody is going to extend your visa just because you like to save some cash.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:29
Hanky Panky
19.6k458100
That second blockquote is misleading out of context. She would have to return to her home country in order to apply for another visa to return to France. For legality, she just has to get out of Schengen to some other country that she can enter legally.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:00
add a comment |Â
up vote
-1
down vote
As the other answers point out, your girlfriend's life will be much easier if she leaves the Schengen zone on time. Let me add that there is a cheap flight using Air Europa, Madrid to Lima, Peru (below $1000 US most days). If you first holiday in a place where you can connect to this flight airside in Madrid, she could stay longer; there is no visa needed for the airside connection. Example, Rabat or Tangiers, Morocco have such connections, and Morocco has visa-free entry for Peruvians. So to the European countries @phoog gave in his answer, minus UK/Ireland. I just couldn't find a cheap connection from the countries in his list that I tried.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 18:14
Andrew Lazarus
11.8k22251
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4 Answers
4
active
oldest
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4 Answers
4
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
I highly recommend not to overstay only to save a couple of euros.
If you save a huge amount of money (which I doubt) you can consider to do a city trip outside schengen area and so save those 3-4 days you need. However, this will be probably more money in total.
Edit: Relaxed is right, I somehow forgot this detail in the first part of my answer. Visa extension is only possible in the way o.m. described
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:36
Gnusper
1,004112
1
This would not help at all in this case. Visa extensions are useful for people who have a visa about to expire but who haven't stayed 90 days yet. The OP's girlfriend does not have nor need a visa but she would have stayed 90 days.
– Relaxed
Dec 7 '17 at 15:41
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
I highly recommend not to overstay only to save a couple of euros.
If you save a huge amount of money (which I doubt) you can consider to do a city trip outside schengen area and so save those 3-4 days you need. However, this will be probably more money in total.
Edit: Relaxed is right, I somehow forgot this detail in the first part of my answer. Visa extension is only possible in the way o.m. described
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:36
Gnusper
1,004112
1
This would not help at all in this case. Visa extensions are useful for people who have a visa about to expire but who haven't stayed 90 days yet. The OP's girlfriend does not have nor need a visa but she would have stayed 90 days.
– Relaxed
Dec 7 '17 at 15:41
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
I highly recommend not to overstay only to save a couple of euros.
If you save a huge amount of money (which I doubt) you can consider to do a city trip outside schengen area and so save those 3-4 days you need. However, this will be probably more money in total.
Edit: Relaxed is right, I somehow forgot this detail in the first part of my answer. Visa extension is only possible in the way o.m. described
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:36
Gnusper
1,004112
I highly recommend not to overstay only to save a couple of euros.
If you save a huge amount of money (which I doubt) you can consider to do a city trip outside schengen area and so save those 3-4 days you need. However, this will be probably more money in total.
Edit: Relaxed is right, I somehow forgot this detail in the first part of my answer. Visa extension is only possible in the way o.m. described
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:36
Gnusper
1,004112
edited Dec 7 '17 at 15:48
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:36
Gnusper
1,004112
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:36
Gnusper
1,004112
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:36
Gnusper
1,004112
1,004112
1
This would not help at all in this case. Visa extensions are useful for people who have a visa about to expire but who haven't stayed 90 days yet. The OP's girlfriend does not have nor need a visa but she would have stayed 90 days.
– Relaxed
Dec 7 '17 at 15:41
add a comment |Â
1
This would not help at all in this case. Visa extensions are useful for people who have a visa about to expire but who haven't stayed 90 days yet. The OP's girlfriend does not have nor need a visa but she would have stayed 90 days.
– Relaxed
Dec 7 '17 at 15:41
1
1
This would not help at all in this case. Visa extensions are useful for people who have a visa about to expire but who haven't stayed 90 days yet. The OP's girlfriend does not have nor need a visa but she would have stayed 90 days.
– Relaxed
Dec 7 '17 at 15:41
This would not help at all in this case. Visa extensions are useful for people who have a visa about to expire but who haven't stayed 90 days yet. The OP's girlfriend does not have nor need a visa but she would have stayed 90 days.
– Relaxed
Dec 7 '17 at 15:41
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
Saving money is no excuse to overstay.
There might be reasons to extend a visa, for humanitarian or medical reasons and the like, but just saving money is not among them.
- In theory, she could try and get a D national visa from a Schengen state. In practice, that's not a realistic option in the timeframe.
- If you are an EU/EEA citizen, and if you can show a permanent domestic relationship, it might be possible to get a family permit in EU countries other than your homeland. Ask at Expatriates SE.
But most likely user Hanky Panky is right -- just get out within the time limit.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:32
o.m.
20.2k23152
Some countries, including Spain and Italy, offer rights to the family of their citizens that are comparable to those offered to family of citizens of other EU countries.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 16:31
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
Saving money is no excuse to overstay.
There might be reasons to extend a visa, for humanitarian or medical reasons and the like, but just saving money is not among them.
- In theory, she could try and get a D national visa from a Schengen state. In practice, that's not a realistic option in the timeframe.
- If you are an EU/EEA citizen, and if you can show a permanent domestic relationship, it might be possible to get a family permit in EU countries other than your homeland. Ask at Expatriates SE.
But most likely user Hanky Panky is right -- just get out within the time limit.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:32
o.m.
20.2k23152
Some countries, including Spain and Italy, offer rights to the family of their citizens that are comparable to those offered to family of citizens of other EU countries.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 16:31
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
Saving money is no excuse to overstay.
There might be reasons to extend a visa, for humanitarian or medical reasons and the like, but just saving money is not among them.
- In theory, she could try and get a D national visa from a Schengen state. In practice, that's not a realistic option in the timeframe.
- If you are an EU/EEA citizen, and if you can show a permanent domestic relationship, it might be possible to get a family permit in EU countries other than your homeland. Ask at Expatriates SE.
But most likely user Hanky Panky is right -- just get out within the time limit.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:32
o.m.
20.2k23152
Saving money is no excuse to overstay.
There might be reasons to extend a visa, for humanitarian or medical reasons and the like, but just saving money is not among them.
- In theory, she could try and get a D national visa from a Schengen state. In practice, that's not a realistic option in the timeframe.
- If you are an EU/EEA citizen, and if you can show a permanent domestic relationship, it might be possible to get a family permit in EU countries other than your homeland. Ask at Expatriates SE.
But most likely user Hanky Panky is right -- just get out within the time limit.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:32
o.m.
20.2k23152
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:32
o.m.
20.2k23152
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:32
o.m.
20.2k23152
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:32
o.m.
20.2k23152
20.2k23152
Some countries, including Spain and Italy, offer rights to the family of their citizens that are comparable to those offered to family of citizens of other EU countries.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 16:31
add a comment |Â
Some countries, including Spain and Italy, offer rights to the family of their citizens that are comparable to those offered to family of citizens of other EU countries.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 16:31
Some countries, including Spain and Italy, offer rights to the family of their citizens that are comparable to those offered to family of citizens of other EU countries.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 16:31
Some countries, including Spain and Italy, offer rights to the family of their citizens that are comparable to those offered to family of citizens of other EU countries.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 16:31
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Then don't buy the cheapest tickets, buy the cheaper ones. Problems caused by overstaying your visa are far more costlier than the cost of paying some extra money for tickets.
Nobody is going to extend your visa just because you like to save some cash.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:29
Hanky Panky
19.6k458100
That second blockquote is misleading out of context. She would have to return to her home country in order to apply for another visa to return to France. For legality, she just has to get out of Schengen to some other country that she can enter legally.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:00
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Then don't buy the cheapest tickets, buy the cheaper ones. Problems caused by overstaying your visa are far more costlier than the cost of paying some extra money for tickets.
Nobody is going to extend your visa just because you like to save some cash.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:29
Hanky Panky
19.6k458100
That second blockquote is misleading out of context. She would have to return to her home country in order to apply for another visa to return to France. For legality, she just has to get out of Schengen to some other country that she can enter legally.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:00
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Then don't buy the cheapest tickets, buy the cheaper ones. Problems caused by overstaying your visa are far more costlier than the cost of paying some extra money for tickets.
Nobody is going to extend your visa just because you like to save some cash.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:29
Hanky Panky
19.6k458100
but the cheapest tickets are 1 or 2 days after the date she has to leave.
Then don't buy the cheapest tickets, buy the cheaper ones. Problems caused by overstaying your visa are far more costlier than the cost of paying some extra money for tickets.
Nobody is going to extend your visa just because you like to save some cash.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:29
Hanky Panky
19.6k458100
edited Dec 8 '17 at 2:25
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:29
Hanky Panky
19.6k458100
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:29
Hanky Panky
19.6k458100
answered Dec 7 '17 at 15:29
Hanky Panky
19.6k458100
19.6k458100
That second blockquote is misleading out of context. She would have to return to her home country in order to apply for another visa to return to France. For legality, she just has to get out of Schengen to some other country that she can enter legally.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:00
add a comment |Â
That second blockquote is misleading out of context. She would have to return to her home country in order to apply for another visa to return to France. For legality, she just has to get out of Schengen to some other country that she can enter legally.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:00
That second blockquote is misleading out of context. She would have to return to her home country in order to apply for another visa to return to France. For legality, she just has to get out of Schengen to some other country that she can enter legally.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:00
That second blockquote is misleading out of context. She would have to return to her home country in order to apply for another visa to return to France. For legality, she just has to get out of Schengen to some other country that she can enter legally.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:00
add a comment |Â
up vote
-1
down vote
As the other answers point out, your girlfriend's life will be much easier if she leaves the Schengen zone on time. Let me add that there is a cheap flight using Air Europa, Madrid to Lima, Peru (below $1000 US most days). If you first holiday in a place where you can connect to this flight airside in Madrid, she could stay longer; there is no visa needed for the airside connection. Example, Rabat or Tangiers, Morocco have such connections, and Morocco has visa-free entry for Peruvians. So to the European countries @phoog gave in his answer, minus UK/Ireland. I just couldn't find a cheap connection from the countries in his list that I tried.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 18:14
Andrew Lazarus
11.8k22251
add a comment |Â
up vote
-1
down vote
As the other answers point out, your girlfriend's life will be much easier if she leaves the Schengen zone on time. Let me add that there is a cheap flight using Air Europa, Madrid to Lima, Peru (below $1000 US most days). If you first holiday in a place where you can connect to this flight airside in Madrid, she could stay longer; there is no visa needed for the airside connection. Example, Rabat or Tangiers, Morocco have such connections, and Morocco has visa-free entry for Peruvians. So to the European countries @phoog gave in his answer, minus UK/Ireland. I just couldn't find a cheap connection from the countries in his list that I tried.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 18:14
Andrew Lazarus
11.8k22251
add a comment |Â
up vote
-1
down vote
up vote
-1
down vote
As the other answers point out, your girlfriend's life will be much easier if she leaves the Schengen zone on time. Let me add that there is a cheap flight using Air Europa, Madrid to Lima, Peru (below $1000 US most days). If you first holiday in a place where you can connect to this flight airside in Madrid, she could stay longer; there is no visa needed for the airside connection. Example, Rabat or Tangiers, Morocco have such connections, and Morocco has visa-free entry for Peruvians. So to the European countries @phoog gave in his answer, minus UK/Ireland. I just couldn't find a cheap connection from the countries in his list that I tried.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 18:14
Andrew Lazarus
11.8k22251
As the other answers point out, your girlfriend's life will be much easier if she leaves the Schengen zone on time. Let me add that there is a cheap flight using Air Europa, Madrid to Lima, Peru (below $1000 US most days). If you first holiday in a place where you can connect to this flight airside in Madrid, she could stay longer; there is no visa needed for the airside connection. Example, Rabat or Tangiers, Morocco have such connections, and Morocco has visa-free entry for Peruvians. So to the European countries @phoog gave in his answer, minus UK/Ireland. I just couldn't find a cheap connection from the countries in his list that I tried.
answered Dec 7 '17 at 18:14
Andrew Lazarus
11.8k22251
answered Dec 7 '17 at 18:14
Andrew Lazarus
11.8k22251
answered Dec 7 '17 at 18:14
Andrew Lazarus
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answered Dec 7 '17 at 18:14
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It is a big deal in that any overstay may adversely affect her ability to get a visa in the future.
– Johns-305
Dec 7 '17 at 15:15
1
You don't need to leave Europe, of course. You can also go to European countries that are not part of Schengen. The UK, Ireland, the channel islands, Croatia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Bosnia, Albania, Ukraine, Belarus, and others are possible choices.
– phoog
Dec 7 '17 at 15:34
According to Wikipedia, Peruvians need an advance visa for UK/Ireland, which would be hard to get when already in France. All the other choices will work.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 18:09
Is Gibraltar another option?
– WGroleau
Dec 7 '17 at 18:38
2
The 90/180 counter does not reset on exit from Schengen to the UK. The 180 is taken as a moving window. I think you will need a back-up plan for refusal of a UK visa, as they may be reluctant to entertain the application in France, where she is merely a tourist.
– Andrew Lazarus
Dec 7 '17 at 20:58