Can I get marriage/spouse visa for other countries if banned from UK? [closed]










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Long story short. Unfortunately, I was removed from the UK by the authorities. I understand that there is definitely going to be a ban on me to UK. Am I liable to get visa from other countries denied on the basis of that ban (such as New Zealand, Canada or the USA)?



My main concern is to find out whether New Zealand would ban me since my fiance is from New Zealand. Is there going to be an issue in getting a NZ visa because of a ban from the UK?










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closed as off-topic by Ali Awan, Gayot Fow, pnuts, Jan, CGCampbell Jan 19 '17 at 20:40


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    For what reason were you removed from the UK? Not all removals necessarily result in a ban. What is your citizenship?

    – Robert Columbia
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:41











  • Bitter UK enemies like Iran and Russia would easily give you visa. Did you overstay?

    – anshabhi
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:44






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    It depends if the other country has an equivalent to Article 8, but we don't know anything about marriage visas. Please use Expats expatriates.stackexchange.com/questions for such questions.

    – Gayot Fow
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:46











  • According to UKBA I overstayed in the UK, I applied for business visa before my earlier visa got expired.. but my visa application was refused and I was given notice to go back to my home country India, but instead I went for tribunals, and judicial review etc.. I still have my case pending in the upper tribunal in UK but they removed me saying I do not have any legal stay in the country anymore. Now I understand that I unintentionally breach the immigration law hence got removed but I am not sure if I am banned from UK or not? and whether I can get visa for other countries?

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:39















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Long story short. Unfortunately, I was removed from the UK by the authorities. I understand that there is definitely going to be a ban on me to UK. Am I liable to get visa from other countries denied on the basis of that ban (such as New Zealand, Canada or the USA)?



My main concern is to find out whether New Zealand would ban me since my fiance is from New Zealand. Is there going to be an issue in getting a NZ visa because of a ban from the UK?










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closed as off-topic by Ali Awan, Gayot Fow, pnuts, Jan, CGCampbell Jan 19 '17 at 20:40


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Ali Awan, Gayot Fow, pnuts, Jan, CGCampbell
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.








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    For what reason were you removed from the UK? Not all removals necessarily result in a ban. What is your citizenship?

    – Robert Columbia
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:41











  • Bitter UK enemies like Iran and Russia would easily give you visa. Did you overstay?

    – anshabhi
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:44






  • 1





    It depends if the other country has an equivalent to Article 8, but we don't know anything about marriage visas. Please use Expats expatriates.stackexchange.com/questions for such questions.

    – Gayot Fow
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:46











  • According to UKBA I overstayed in the UK, I applied for business visa before my earlier visa got expired.. but my visa application was refused and I was given notice to go back to my home country India, but instead I went for tribunals, and judicial review etc.. I still have my case pending in the upper tribunal in UK but they removed me saying I do not have any legal stay in the country anymore. Now I understand that I unintentionally breach the immigration law hence got removed but I am not sure if I am banned from UK or not? and whether I can get visa for other countries?

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:39













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Long story short. Unfortunately, I was removed from the UK by the authorities. I understand that there is definitely going to be a ban on me to UK. Am I liable to get visa from other countries denied on the basis of that ban (such as New Zealand, Canada or the USA)?



My main concern is to find out whether New Zealand would ban me since my fiance is from New Zealand. Is there going to be an issue in getting a NZ visa because of a ban from the UK?










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Long story short. Unfortunately, I was removed from the UK by the authorities. I understand that there is definitely going to be a ban on me to UK. Am I liable to get visa from other countries denied on the basis of that ban (such as New Zealand, Canada or the USA)?



My main concern is to find out whether New Zealand would ban me since my fiance is from New Zealand. Is there going to be an issue in getting a NZ visa because of a ban from the UK?







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closed as off-topic by Ali Awan, Gayot Fow, pnuts, Jan, CGCampbell Jan 19 '17 at 20:40


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Ali Awan, Gayot Fow, pnuts, Jan, CGCampbell
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.




closed as off-topic by Ali Awan, Gayot Fow, pnuts, Jan, CGCampbell Jan 19 '17 at 20:40


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Questions about immigration or moving for extended periods of time (studies or employment, among others) are off-topic. Our sister site, Expatriates Stack Exchange might be a better place to ask. See also the meta post Is it OK to ask questions about immigration?." – Ali Awan, Gayot Fow, pnuts, Jan, CGCampbell
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.







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    For what reason were you removed from the UK? Not all removals necessarily result in a ban. What is your citizenship?

    – Robert Columbia
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:41











  • Bitter UK enemies like Iran and Russia would easily give you visa. Did you overstay?

    – anshabhi
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:44






  • 1





    It depends if the other country has an equivalent to Article 8, but we don't know anything about marriage visas. Please use Expats expatriates.stackexchange.com/questions for such questions.

    – Gayot Fow
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:46











  • According to UKBA I overstayed in the UK, I applied for business visa before my earlier visa got expired.. but my visa application was refused and I was given notice to go back to my home country India, but instead I went for tribunals, and judicial review etc.. I still have my case pending in the upper tribunal in UK but they removed me saying I do not have any legal stay in the country anymore. Now I understand that I unintentionally breach the immigration law hence got removed but I am not sure if I am banned from UK or not? and whether I can get visa for other countries?

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:39












  • 1





    For what reason were you removed from the UK? Not all removals necessarily result in a ban. What is your citizenship?

    – Robert Columbia
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:41











  • Bitter UK enemies like Iran and Russia would easily give you visa. Did you overstay?

    – anshabhi
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:44






  • 1





    It depends if the other country has an equivalent to Article 8, but we don't know anything about marriage visas. Please use Expats expatriates.stackexchange.com/questions for such questions.

    – Gayot Fow
    Jan 19 '17 at 17:46











  • According to UKBA I overstayed in the UK, I applied for business visa before my earlier visa got expired.. but my visa application was refused and I was given notice to go back to my home country India, but instead I went for tribunals, and judicial review etc.. I still have my case pending in the upper tribunal in UK but they removed me saying I do not have any legal stay in the country anymore. Now I understand that I unintentionally breach the immigration law hence got removed but I am not sure if I am banned from UK or not? and whether I can get visa for other countries?

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:39







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For what reason were you removed from the UK? Not all removals necessarily result in a ban. What is your citizenship?

– Robert Columbia
Jan 19 '17 at 17:41





For what reason were you removed from the UK? Not all removals necessarily result in a ban. What is your citizenship?

– Robert Columbia
Jan 19 '17 at 17:41













Bitter UK enemies like Iran and Russia would easily give you visa. Did you overstay?

– anshabhi
Jan 19 '17 at 17:44





Bitter UK enemies like Iran and Russia would easily give you visa. Did you overstay?

– anshabhi
Jan 19 '17 at 17:44




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It depends if the other country has an equivalent to Article 8, but we don't know anything about marriage visas. Please use Expats expatriates.stackexchange.com/questions for such questions.

– Gayot Fow
Jan 19 '17 at 17:46





It depends if the other country has an equivalent to Article 8, but we don't know anything about marriage visas. Please use Expats expatriates.stackexchange.com/questions for such questions.

– Gayot Fow
Jan 19 '17 at 17:46













According to UKBA I overstayed in the UK, I applied for business visa before my earlier visa got expired.. but my visa application was refused and I was given notice to go back to my home country India, but instead I went for tribunals, and judicial review etc.. I still have my case pending in the upper tribunal in UK but they removed me saying I do not have any legal stay in the country anymore. Now I understand that I unintentionally breach the immigration law hence got removed but I am not sure if I am banned from UK or not? and whether I can get visa for other countries?

– Truth
Jan 20 '17 at 17:39





According to UKBA I overstayed in the UK, I applied for business visa before my earlier visa got expired.. but my visa application was refused and I was given notice to go back to my home country India, but instead I went for tribunals, and judicial review etc.. I still have my case pending in the upper tribunal in UK but they removed me saying I do not have any legal stay in the country anymore. Now I understand that I unintentionally breach the immigration law hence got removed but I am not sure if I am banned from UK or not? and whether I can get visa for other countries?

– Truth
Jan 20 '17 at 17:39










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Quite a lot of countries will ask you if you ever got removed, anywhere. Telling lies is (a) something which this board does not suggest, on principle, and (b) something whch gets you into even more trouble if you are caught.



  • Do you want a visa for the purpose of getting married, or are you already married? That makes a difference.

  • Of course the UK, the US and New Zealand are exchanging plenty of intelligence information. None of us can tell how much information they really exchange.





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  • No.. I am not married yet I am 29 years old with clear police records and everything else as I am law abiding citizen. Actually one of my relative here suggested me a genuine newzealand resident female and want us get married. I am quite interested in her too but I dont want to start anything off there is no scope of me getting my visa issued for newzealand.

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:46











  • @Truth, if you are not yet married or in a stable relationship, you cannot get a family visa.

    – o.m.
    Jan 20 '17 at 18:11











  • Yes I am not married yet with the person I intend to marry, although I will marry her in near future. Do we need to live in India for a year together? as it might be difficult for her to live here as she works there in newzealand..

    – Truth
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:16











  • @Truth, that question should be asked on Expatriates.SE.

    – o.m.
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:38


















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You can get a visa. Of course the UK ban might make it tougher since they ask questions on the visa forms but each application is judged on its own merit. For New Zealand, you have to provide solid proof of partnership & you must be of good character (produce a police clearance certificate). They might consider being banned as not of good character. But the UK only bans people for serious issues. Are you sure you were banned.






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  • Note that your experience as a Portuguese (and hence EU) citizen would have been quite different than that of third-country citizens.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:01











  • I understand. But he must've done something really serious to be banned.

    – Jordy
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:37











  • No. Again that would be true for EU citizens, not for others.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:39











  • @jordy .. I overstayed in UK hence got removed. however never ever had my name got listed in any police records or any other organisation for any illegal activity or else. but I am not sure now UK police will provide me clearance from the UK police since i was removed form the UK.

    – Truth
    Jan 28 '17 at 6:44

















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Quite a lot of countries will ask you if you ever got removed, anywhere. Telling lies is (a) something which this board does not suggest, on principle, and (b) something whch gets you into even more trouble if you are caught.



  • Do you want a visa for the purpose of getting married, or are you already married? That makes a difference.

  • Of course the UK, the US and New Zealand are exchanging plenty of intelligence information. None of us can tell how much information they really exchange.





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  • No.. I am not married yet I am 29 years old with clear police records and everything else as I am law abiding citizen. Actually one of my relative here suggested me a genuine newzealand resident female and want us get married. I am quite interested in her too but I dont want to start anything off there is no scope of me getting my visa issued for newzealand.

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:46











  • @Truth, if you are not yet married or in a stable relationship, you cannot get a family visa.

    – o.m.
    Jan 20 '17 at 18:11











  • Yes I am not married yet with the person I intend to marry, although I will marry her in near future. Do we need to live in India for a year together? as it might be difficult for her to live here as she works there in newzealand..

    – Truth
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:16











  • @Truth, that question should be asked on Expatriates.SE.

    – o.m.
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:38















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Quite a lot of countries will ask you if you ever got removed, anywhere. Telling lies is (a) something which this board does not suggest, on principle, and (b) something whch gets you into even more trouble if you are caught.



  • Do you want a visa for the purpose of getting married, or are you already married? That makes a difference.

  • Of course the UK, the US and New Zealand are exchanging plenty of intelligence information. None of us can tell how much information they really exchange.





share|improve this answer























  • No.. I am not married yet I am 29 years old with clear police records and everything else as I am law abiding citizen. Actually one of my relative here suggested me a genuine newzealand resident female and want us get married. I am quite interested in her too but I dont want to start anything off there is no scope of me getting my visa issued for newzealand.

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:46











  • @Truth, if you are not yet married or in a stable relationship, you cannot get a family visa.

    – o.m.
    Jan 20 '17 at 18:11











  • Yes I am not married yet with the person I intend to marry, although I will marry her in near future. Do we need to live in India for a year together? as it might be difficult for her to live here as she works there in newzealand..

    – Truth
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:16











  • @Truth, that question should be asked on Expatriates.SE.

    – o.m.
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:38













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Quite a lot of countries will ask you if you ever got removed, anywhere. Telling lies is (a) something which this board does not suggest, on principle, and (b) something whch gets you into even more trouble if you are caught.



  • Do you want a visa for the purpose of getting married, or are you already married? That makes a difference.

  • Of course the UK, the US and New Zealand are exchanging plenty of intelligence information. None of us can tell how much information they really exchange.





share|improve this answer













Quite a lot of countries will ask you if you ever got removed, anywhere. Telling lies is (a) something which this board does not suggest, on principle, and (b) something whch gets you into even more trouble if you are caught.



  • Do you want a visa for the purpose of getting married, or are you already married? That makes a difference.

  • Of course the UK, the US and New Zealand are exchanging plenty of intelligence information. None of us can tell how much information they really exchange.






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  • No.. I am not married yet I am 29 years old with clear police records and everything else as I am law abiding citizen. Actually one of my relative here suggested me a genuine newzealand resident female and want us get married. I am quite interested in her too but I dont want to start anything off there is no scope of me getting my visa issued for newzealand.

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:46











  • @Truth, if you are not yet married or in a stable relationship, you cannot get a family visa.

    – o.m.
    Jan 20 '17 at 18:11











  • Yes I am not married yet with the person I intend to marry, although I will marry her in near future. Do we need to live in India for a year together? as it might be difficult for her to live here as she works there in newzealand..

    – Truth
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:16











  • @Truth, that question should be asked on Expatriates.SE.

    – o.m.
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:38

















  • No.. I am not married yet I am 29 years old with clear police records and everything else as I am law abiding citizen. Actually one of my relative here suggested me a genuine newzealand resident female and want us get married. I am quite interested in her too but I dont want to start anything off there is no scope of me getting my visa issued for newzealand.

    – Truth
    Jan 20 '17 at 17:46











  • @Truth, if you are not yet married or in a stable relationship, you cannot get a family visa.

    – o.m.
    Jan 20 '17 at 18:11











  • Yes I am not married yet with the person I intend to marry, although I will marry her in near future. Do we need to live in India for a year together? as it might be difficult for her to live here as she works there in newzealand..

    – Truth
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:16











  • @Truth, that question should be asked on Expatriates.SE.

    – o.m.
    Jan 24 '17 at 16:38
















No.. I am not married yet I am 29 years old with clear police records and everything else as I am law abiding citizen. Actually one of my relative here suggested me a genuine newzealand resident female and want us get married. I am quite interested in her too but I dont want to start anything off there is no scope of me getting my visa issued for newzealand.

– Truth
Jan 20 '17 at 17:46





No.. I am not married yet I am 29 years old with clear police records and everything else as I am law abiding citizen. Actually one of my relative here suggested me a genuine newzealand resident female and want us get married. I am quite interested in her too but I dont want to start anything off there is no scope of me getting my visa issued for newzealand.

– Truth
Jan 20 '17 at 17:46













@Truth, if you are not yet married or in a stable relationship, you cannot get a family visa.

– o.m.
Jan 20 '17 at 18:11





@Truth, if you are not yet married or in a stable relationship, you cannot get a family visa.

– o.m.
Jan 20 '17 at 18:11













Yes I am not married yet with the person I intend to marry, although I will marry her in near future. Do we need to live in India for a year together? as it might be difficult for her to live here as she works there in newzealand..

– Truth
Jan 24 '17 at 16:16





Yes I am not married yet with the person I intend to marry, although I will marry her in near future. Do we need to live in India for a year together? as it might be difficult for her to live here as she works there in newzealand..

– Truth
Jan 24 '17 at 16:16













@Truth, that question should be asked on Expatriates.SE.

– o.m.
Jan 24 '17 at 16:38





@Truth, that question should be asked on Expatriates.SE.

– o.m.
Jan 24 '17 at 16:38













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You can get a visa. Of course the UK ban might make it tougher since they ask questions on the visa forms but each application is judged on its own merit. For New Zealand, you have to provide solid proof of partnership & you must be of good character (produce a police clearance certificate). They might consider being banned as not of good character. But the UK only bans people for serious issues. Are you sure you were banned.






share|improve this answer

























  • Note that your experience as a Portuguese (and hence EU) citizen would have been quite different than that of third-country citizens.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:01











  • I understand. But he must've done something really serious to be banned.

    – Jordy
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:37











  • No. Again that would be true for EU citizens, not for others.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:39











  • @jordy .. I overstayed in UK hence got removed. however never ever had my name got listed in any police records or any other organisation for any illegal activity or else. but I am not sure now UK police will provide me clearance from the UK police since i was removed form the UK.

    – Truth
    Jan 28 '17 at 6:44















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You can get a visa. Of course the UK ban might make it tougher since they ask questions on the visa forms but each application is judged on its own merit. For New Zealand, you have to provide solid proof of partnership & you must be of good character (produce a police clearance certificate). They might consider being banned as not of good character. But the UK only bans people for serious issues. Are you sure you were banned.






share|improve this answer

























  • Note that your experience as a Portuguese (and hence EU) citizen would have been quite different than that of third-country citizens.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:01











  • I understand. But he must've done something really serious to be banned.

    – Jordy
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:37











  • No. Again that would be true for EU citizens, not for others.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:39











  • @jordy .. I overstayed in UK hence got removed. however never ever had my name got listed in any police records or any other organisation for any illegal activity or else. but I am not sure now UK police will provide me clearance from the UK police since i was removed form the UK.

    – Truth
    Jan 28 '17 at 6:44













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You can get a visa. Of course the UK ban might make it tougher since they ask questions on the visa forms but each application is judged on its own merit. For New Zealand, you have to provide solid proof of partnership & you must be of good character (produce a police clearance certificate). They might consider being banned as not of good character. But the UK only bans people for serious issues. Are you sure you were banned.






share|improve this answer















You can get a visa. Of course the UK ban might make it tougher since they ask questions on the visa forms but each application is judged on its own merit. For New Zealand, you have to provide solid proof of partnership & you must be of good character (produce a police clearance certificate). They might consider being banned as not of good character. But the UK only bans people for serious issues. Are you sure you were banned.







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  • Note that your experience as a Portuguese (and hence EU) citizen would have been quite different than that of third-country citizens.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:01











  • I understand. But he must've done something really serious to be banned.

    – Jordy
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:37











  • No. Again that would be true for EU citizens, not for others.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:39











  • @jordy .. I overstayed in UK hence got removed. however never ever had my name got listed in any police records or any other organisation for any illegal activity or else. but I am not sure now UK police will provide me clearance from the UK police since i was removed form the UK.

    – Truth
    Jan 28 '17 at 6:44

















  • Note that your experience as a Portuguese (and hence EU) citizen would have been quite different than that of third-country citizens.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:01











  • I understand. But he must've done something really serious to be banned.

    – Jordy
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:37











  • No. Again that would be true for EU citizens, not for others.

    – Relaxed
    Jan 19 '17 at 20:39











  • @jordy .. I overstayed in UK hence got removed. however never ever had my name got listed in any police records or any other organisation for any illegal activity or else. but I am not sure now UK police will provide me clearance from the UK police since i was removed form the UK.

    – Truth
    Jan 28 '17 at 6:44
















Note that your experience as a Portuguese (and hence EU) citizen would have been quite different than that of third-country citizens.

– Relaxed
Jan 19 '17 at 20:01





Note that your experience as a Portuguese (and hence EU) citizen would have been quite different than that of third-country citizens.

– Relaxed
Jan 19 '17 at 20:01













I understand. But he must've done something really serious to be banned.

– Jordy
Jan 19 '17 at 20:37





I understand. But he must've done something really serious to be banned.

– Jordy
Jan 19 '17 at 20:37













No. Again that would be true for EU citizens, not for others.

– Relaxed
Jan 19 '17 at 20:39





No. Again that would be true for EU citizens, not for others.

– Relaxed
Jan 19 '17 at 20:39













@jordy .. I overstayed in UK hence got removed. however never ever had my name got listed in any police records or any other organisation for any illegal activity or else. but I am not sure now UK police will provide me clearance from the UK police since i was removed form the UK.

– Truth
Jan 28 '17 at 6:44





@jordy .. I overstayed in UK hence got removed. however never ever had my name got listed in any police records or any other organisation for any illegal activity or else. but I am not sure now UK police will provide me clearance from the UK police since i was removed form the UK.

– Truth
Jan 28 '17 at 6:44



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