Why are new Eurostar seats harder than the old ones?
When taking the Eurostar, I noticed the new model has seats that are harder than the old one, which is significantly less comfortable. I couldn't notice if the same happened to airplane seats (it's harder to compare old and new seats in the same way, due to greater variety), but I wonder if there are reasons other than, say, cheaper cost. Is it better for maintenance? Do studies indicate that harder seats lead to people going to the food car more often? Safety issues? Could they be better for blood circulation?
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asked Apr 28 '17 at 15:40
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When taking the Eurostar, I noticed the new model has seats that are harder than the old one, which is significantly less comfortable. I couldn't notice if the same happened to airplane seats (it's harder to compare old and new seats in the same way, due to greater variety), but I wonder if there are reasons other than, say, cheaper cost. Is it better for maintenance? Do studies indicate that harder seats lead to people going to the food car more often? Safety issues? Could they be better for blood circulation?
trains seating
asked Apr 28 '17 at 15:40
anol
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Cheaper cost and easier maintenance I'd guess as the main reasons. Unfortunately this seems to be the way these days, with train seats on a rapid decline in comfort. Just try out the "ironing board" seats they have on Gatwick Express and some other medium-distance trains - awful. Compare that to the super-thick padding of seats from BR days, or even more recent seats from the early-2000s. Some people DO genuinely find hard seats more comfortable, though.
– Muzer
Apr 28 '17 at 15:44
It's happening to airplane seats too. At least for the newer seats on United's domestic US fleet :( I would rather be in an old, cracked seat, that looks worse but feels comfortable compared to their new ones.
– CactusCake
Apr 28 '17 at 21:42
1
Squishy seats tend to be absorbent like a sponge, which isn't fun if someone spills a drink or throws up. I suspect that's the reason.
– ceejayoz
Apr 28 '17 at 23:29
2
Funny that I just came by this quote, but I just came home from a trip to Paris and I actually liked the new seats. But I guess it is just a matter of taste. Anyway, they will probably end up like the old ones
– Kinnaj Thomsen
May 1 '17 at 19:47
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When taking the Eurostar, I noticed the new model has seats that are harder than the old one, which is significantly less comfortable. I couldn't notice if the same happened to airplane seats (it's harder to compare old and new seats in the same way, due to greater variety), but I wonder if there are reasons other than, say, cheaper cost. Is it better for maintenance? Do studies indicate that harder seats lead to people going to the food car more often? Safety issues? Could they be better for blood circulation?
trains seating
asked Apr 28 '17 at 15:40
anol
1,38621227
When taking the Eurostar, I noticed the new model has seats that are harder than the old one, which is significantly less comfortable. I couldn't notice if the same happened to airplane seats (it's harder to compare old and new seats in the same way, due to greater variety), but I wonder if there are reasons other than, say, cheaper cost. Is it better for maintenance? Do studies indicate that harder seats lead to people going to the food car more often? Safety issues? Could they be better for blood circulation?
trains seating
trains seating
asked Apr 28 '17 at 15:40
anol
1,38621227
asked Apr 28 '17 at 15:40
anol
1,38621227
asked Apr 28 '17 at 15:40
anol
1,38621227
asked Apr 28 '17 at 15:40
anol
1,38621227
asked Apr 28 '17 at 15:40
anol
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5
Cheaper cost and easier maintenance I'd guess as the main reasons. Unfortunately this seems to be the way these days, with train seats on a rapid decline in comfort. Just try out the "ironing board" seats they have on Gatwick Express and some other medium-distance trains - awful. Compare that to the super-thick padding of seats from BR days, or even more recent seats from the early-2000s. Some people DO genuinely find hard seats more comfortable, though.
– Muzer
Apr 28 '17 at 15:44
It's happening to airplane seats too. At least for the newer seats on United's domestic US fleet :( I would rather be in an old, cracked seat, that looks worse but feels comfortable compared to their new ones.
– CactusCake
Apr 28 '17 at 21:42
1
Squishy seats tend to be absorbent like a sponge, which isn't fun if someone spills a drink or throws up. I suspect that's the reason.
– ceejayoz
Apr 28 '17 at 23:29
2
Funny that I just came by this quote, but I just came home from a trip to Paris and I actually liked the new seats. But I guess it is just a matter of taste. Anyway, they will probably end up like the old ones
– Kinnaj Thomsen
May 1 '17 at 19:47
add a comment |
5
Cheaper cost and easier maintenance I'd guess as the main reasons. Unfortunately this seems to be the way these days, with train seats on a rapid decline in comfort. Just try out the "ironing board" seats they have on Gatwick Express and some other medium-distance trains - awful. Compare that to the super-thick padding of seats from BR days, or even more recent seats from the early-2000s. Some people DO genuinely find hard seats more comfortable, though.
– Muzer
Apr 28 '17 at 15:44
It's happening to airplane seats too. At least for the newer seats on United's domestic US fleet :( I would rather be in an old, cracked seat, that looks worse but feels comfortable compared to their new ones.
– CactusCake
Apr 28 '17 at 21:42
1
Squishy seats tend to be absorbent like a sponge, which isn't fun if someone spills a drink or throws up. I suspect that's the reason.
– ceejayoz
Apr 28 '17 at 23:29
2
Funny that I just came by this quote, but I just came home from a trip to Paris and I actually liked the new seats. But I guess it is just a matter of taste. Anyway, they will probably end up like the old ones
– Kinnaj Thomsen
May 1 '17 at 19:47
5
5
Cheaper cost and easier maintenance I'd guess as the main reasons. Unfortunately this seems to be the way these days, with train seats on a rapid decline in comfort. Just try out the "ironing board" seats they have on Gatwick Express and some other medium-distance trains - awful. Compare that to the super-thick padding of seats from BR days, or even more recent seats from the early-2000s. Some people DO genuinely find hard seats more comfortable, though.
– Muzer
Apr 28 '17 at 15:44
Cheaper cost and easier maintenance I'd guess as the main reasons. Unfortunately this seems to be the way these days, with train seats on a rapid decline in comfort. Just try out the "ironing board" seats they have on Gatwick Express and some other medium-distance trains - awful. Compare that to the super-thick padding of seats from BR days, or even more recent seats from the early-2000s. Some people DO genuinely find hard seats more comfortable, though.
– Muzer
Apr 28 '17 at 15:44
It's happening to airplane seats too. At least for the newer seats on United's domestic US fleet :( I would rather be in an old, cracked seat, that looks worse but feels comfortable compared to their new ones.
– CactusCake
Apr 28 '17 at 21:42
It's happening to airplane seats too. At least for the newer seats on United's domestic US fleet :( I would rather be in an old, cracked seat, that looks worse but feels comfortable compared to their new ones.
– CactusCake
Apr 28 '17 at 21:42
1
1
Squishy seats tend to be absorbent like a sponge, which isn't fun if someone spills a drink or throws up. I suspect that's the reason.
– ceejayoz
Apr 28 '17 at 23:29
Squishy seats tend to be absorbent like a sponge, which isn't fun if someone spills a drink or throws up. I suspect that's the reason.
– ceejayoz
Apr 28 '17 at 23:29
2
2
Funny that I just came by this quote, but I just came home from a trip to Paris and I actually liked the new seats. But I guess it is just a matter of taste. Anyway, they will probably end up like the old ones
– Kinnaj Thomsen
May 1 '17 at 19:47
Funny that I just came by this quote, but I just came home from a trip to Paris and I actually liked the new seats. But I guess it is just a matter of taste. Anyway, they will probably end up like the old ones
– Kinnaj Thomsen
May 1 '17 at 19:47
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A number of new UK trains have thinner padding on new seats in order to increase legroom - people are taller now on average and need more legroom, but the trains aren't getting any bigger, so they can get two or three centimetres by making the padding on the seats thinner.
I don't know if this is Eurostar's reason, but it is the official explanation for the thinner padding on the new Thameslink trains ("class 700") compared to the old ones ("class 319").
answered May 4 '17 at 10:52
Richard Gadsden
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Ryanair also introduced thinner seats, in order to provide more legroom (dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3381937/…)
– Bertware
May 5 '17 at 11:11
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A number of new UK trains have thinner padding on new seats in order to increase legroom - people are taller now on average and need more legroom, but the trains aren't getting any bigger, so they can get two or three centimetres by making the padding on the seats thinner.
I don't know if this is Eurostar's reason, but it is the official explanation for the thinner padding on the new Thameslink trains ("class 700") compared to the old ones ("class 319").
answered May 4 '17 at 10:52
Richard Gadsden
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Ryanair also introduced thinner seats, in order to provide more legroom (dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3381937/…)
– Bertware
May 5 '17 at 11:11
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A number of new UK trains have thinner padding on new seats in order to increase legroom - people are taller now on average and need more legroom, but the trains aren't getting any bigger, so they can get two or three centimetres by making the padding on the seats thinner.
I don't know if this is Eurostar's reason, but it is the official explanation for the thinner padding on the new Thameslink trains ("class 700") compared to the old ones ("class 319").
answered May 4 '17 at 10:52
Richard Gadsden
3,4262032
Ryanair also introduced thinner seats, in order to provide more legroom (dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3381937/…)
– Bertware
May 5 '17 at 11:11
add a comment |
A number of new UK trains have thinner padding on new seats in order to increase legroom - people are taller now on average and need more legroom, but the trains aren't getting any bigger, so they can get two or three centimetres by making the padding on the seats thinner.
I don't know if this is Eurostar's reason, but it is the official explanation for the thinner padding on the new Thameslink trains ("class 700") compared to the old ones ("class 319").
answered May 4 '17 at 10:52
Richard Gadsden
3,4262032
A number of new UK trains have thinner padding on new seats in order to increase legroom - people are taller now on average and need more legroom, but the trains aren't getting any bigger, so they can get two or three centimetres by making the padding on the seats thinner.
I don't know if this is Eurostar's reason, but it is the official explanation for the thinner padding on the new Thameslink trains ("class 700") compared to the old ones ("class 319").
answered May 4 '17 at 10:52
Richard Gadsden
3,4262032
answered May 4 '17 at 10:52
Richard Gadsden
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answered May 4 '17 at 10:52
Richard Gadsden
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answered May 4 '17 at 10:52
Richard Gadsden
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Ryanair also introduced thinner seats, in order to provide more legroom (dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3381937/…)
– Bertware
May 5 '17 at 11:11
add a comment |
Ryanair also introduced thinner seats, in order to provide more legroom (dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3381937/…)
– Bertware
May 5 '17 at 11:11
Ryanair also introduced thinner seats, in order to provide more legroom (dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3381937/…)
– Bertware
May 5 '17 at 11:11
Ryanair also introduced thinner seats, in order to provide more legroom (dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3381937/…)
– Bertware
May 5 '17 at 11:11
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Cheaper cost and easier maintenance I'd guess as the main reasons. Unfortunately this seems to be the way these days, with train seats on a rapid decline in comfort. Just try out the "ironing board" seats they have on Gatwick Express and some other medium-distance trains - awful. Compare that to the super-thick padding of seats from BR days, or even more recent seats from the early-2000s. Some people DO genuinely find hard seats more comfortable, though.
– Muzer
Apr 28 '17 at 15:44
It's happening to airplane seats too. At least for the newer seats on United's domestic US fleet :( I would rather be in an old, cracked seat, that looks worse but feels comfortable compared to their new ones.
– CactusCake
Apr 28 '17 at 21:42
1
Squishy seats tend to be absorbent like a sponge, which isn't fun if someone spills a drink or throws up. I suspect that's the reason.
– ceejayoz
Apr 28 '17 at 23:29
2
Funny that I just came by this quote, but I just came home from a trip to Paris and I actually liked the new seats. But I guess it is just a matter of taste. Anyway, they will probably end up like the old ones
– Kinnaj Thomsen
May 1 '17 at 19:47