Oyster Caps - Zone 1-2 Cappted travel with Single Ticket ontop









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Can someone please explain this?



I did one journey from Zone 8, and the rest of my time was spent in Zones 1-2. I have a 16-25 Railcard on my Oyster so the Zone 1-2 cap is £4.35 and the zones 1-8 is £8.



So my question is - assuming that Oyster works out the cheapest journey at all points why wasn't I capped? Yes - I didn't meet the zone 1-8 cap, but I definitely did for the zones 1-2 cap with my travel round there. Therefore shouldn't Oyster cap my Zones 1-2 travel separately and then have the zone 8 single fare on top. It seems in my case I have not been charged the cheapest fare.



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Tried contacting customer services, they said they 'thought' zones 1-2 would cap if I traveled around there first and then made my zone 8 single travel, but not the other way round which I did.










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    Can someone please explain this?



    I did one journey from Zone 8, and the rest of my time was spent in Zones 1-2. I have a 16-25 Railcard on my Oyster so the Zone 1-2 cap is £4.35 and the zones 1-8 is £8.



    So my question is - assuming that Oyster works out the cheapest journey at all points why wasn't I capped? Yes - I didn't meet the zone 1-8 cap, but I definitely did for the zones 1-2 cap with my travel round there. Therefore shouldn't Oyster cap my Zones 1-2 travel separately and then have the zone 8 single fare on top. It seems in my case I have not been charged the cheapest fare.



    See pic: Oyster



    Tried contacting customer services, they said they 'thought' zones 1-2 would cap if I traveled around there first and then made my zone 8 single travel, but not the other way round which I did.










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      Can someone please explain this?



      I did one journey from Zone 8, and the rest of my time was spent in Zones 1-2. I have a 16-25 Railcard on my Oyster so the Zone 1-2 cap is £4.35 and the zones 1-8 is £8.



      So my question is - assuming that Oyster works out the cheapest journey at all points why wasn't I capped? Yes - I didn't meet the zone 1-8 cap, but I definitely did for the zones 1-2 cap with my travel round there. Therefore shouldn't Oyster cap my Zones 1-2 travel separately and then have the zone 8 single fare on top. It seems in my case I have not been charged the cheapest fare.



      See pic: Oyster



      Tried contacting customer services, they said they 'thought' zones 1-2 would cap if I traveled around there first and then made my zone 8 single travel, but not the other way round which I did.










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      Can someone please explain this?



      I did one journey from Zone 8, and the rest of my time was spent in Zones 1-2. I have a 16-25 Railcard on my Oyster so the Zone 1-2 cap is £4.35 and the zones 1-8 is £8.



      So my question is - assuming that Oyster works out the cheapest journey at all points why wasn't I capped? Yes - I didn't meet the zone 1-8 cap, but I definitely did for the zones 1-2 cap with my travel round there. Therefore shouldn't Oyster cap my Zones 1-2 travel separately and then have the zone 8 single fare on top. It seems in my case I have not been charged the cheapest fare.



      See pic: Oyster



      Tried contacting customer services, they said they 'thought' zones 1-2 would cap if I traveled around there first and then made my zone 8 single travel, but not the other way round which I did.







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          Oyster capping is a complicated beast, but I think I have an answer for you.



          There are two caps - Anytime and Off Peak



          Anytime for your card is set at £6.60 for Zones 1-2



          Off Peak for your card is set at £4.35 for Zones 1-2



          Journeys are tallied against the running totals of all applicable caps, so all journeys are tallied against the Anytime cap but only some are tallied against the Off Peak cap.



          Your Zone 1-2 travel is split across both of those caps, with all three journeys being tallied against the Anytime cap running total but only two journeys being tallied against the Off Peak cap running total.



          Your cap totals are thusly £4.80 for Anytime and £3.20 for Off Peak in Zones 1-2, so neither cap was reached.






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          • I follow what you say but it doesn't quite match up for me: [url=ibb.co/kqH7XF][img]https://preview.ibb.co/mWbeev/… This shows me reaching an off peak cap during the peak on a different day, so surely then it's not the timing but actually the zones. This also makes sense with what london oyster says: Here which says that the caps in the evening peak that are applied are off peak caps, even if a full price peak single fare is charged. Thanks so much for your help
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:42











          • I screwed up the picture sorry it is Here
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:48











          • @TomGill that page on oyster-rail.org.uk is wrong, it's a third party site, so don't assume it's correct.
            – Moo
            Aug 12 '17 at 11:02










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          Oyster capping is a complicated beast, but I think I have an answer for you.



          There are two caps - Anytime and Off Peak



          Anytime for your card is set at £6.60 for Zones 1-2



          Off Peak for your card is set at £4.35 for Zones 1-2



          Journeys are tallied against the running totals of all applicable caps, so all journeys are tallied against the Anytime cap but only some are tallied against the Off Peak cap.



          Your Zone 1-2 travel is split across both of those caps, with all three journeys being tallied against the Anytime cap running total but only two journeys being tallied against the Off Peak cap running total.



          Your cap totals are thusly £4.80 for Anytime and £3.20 for Off Peak in Zones 1-2, so neither cap was reached.






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          • I follow what you say but it doesn't quite match up for me: [url=ibb.co/kqH7XF][img]https://preview.ibb.co/mWbeev/… This shows me reaching an off peak cap during the peak on a different day, so surely then it's not the timing but actually the zones. This also makes sense with what london oyster says: Here which says that the caps in the evening peak that are applied are off peak caps, even if a full price peak single fare is charged. Thanks so much for your help
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:42











          • I screwed up the picture sorry it is Here
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:48











          • @TomGill that page on oyster-rail.org.uk is wrong, it's a third party site, so don't assume it's correct.
            – Moo
            Aug 12 '17 at 11:02














          up vote
          1
          down vote













          Oyster capping is a complicated beast, but I think I have an answer for you.



          There are two caps - Anytime and Off Peak



          Anytime for your card is set at £6.60 for Zones 1-2



          Off Peak for your card is set at £4.35 for Zones 1-2



          Journeys are tallied against the running totals of all applicable caps, so all journeys are tallied against the Anytime cap but only some are tallied against the Off Peak cap.



          Your Zone 1-2 travel is split across both of those caps, with all three journeys being tallied against the Anytime cap running total but only two journeys being tallied against the Off Peak cap running total.



          Your cap totals are thusly £4.80 for Anytime and £3.20 for Off Peak in Zones 1-2, so neither cap was reached.






          share|improve this answer




















          • I follow what you say but it doesn't quite match up for me: [url=ibb.co/kqH7XF][img]https://preview.ibb.co/mWbeev/… This shows me reaching an off peak cap during the peak on a different day, so surely then it's not the timing but actually the zones. This also makes sense with what london oyster says: Here which says that the caps in the evening peak that are applied are off peak caps, even if a full price peak single fare is charged. Thanks so much for your help
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:42











          • I screwed up the picture sorry it is Here
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:48











          • @TomGill that page on oyster-rail.org.uk is wrong, it's a third party site, so don't assume it's correct.
            – Moo
            Aug 12 '17 at 11:02












          up vote
          1
          down vote










          up vote
          1
          down vote









          Oyster capping is a complicated beast, but I think I have an answer for you.



          There are two caps - Anytime and Off Peak



          Anytime for your card is set at £6.60 for Zones 1-2



          Off Peak for your card is set at £4.35 for Zones 1-2



          Journeys are tallied against the running totals of all applicable caps, so all journeys are tallied against the Anytime cap but only some are tallied against the Off Peak cap.



          Your Zone 1-2 travel is split across both of those caps, with all three journeys being tallied against the Anytime cap running total but only two journeys being tallied against the Off Peak cap running total.



          Your cap totals are thusly £4.80 for Anytime and £3.20 for Off Peak in Zones 1-2, so neither cap was reached.






          share|improve this answer












          Oyster capping is a complicated beast, but I think I have an answer for you.



          There are two caps - Anytime and Off Peak



          Anytime for your card is set at £6.60 for Zones 1-2



          Off Peak for your card is set at £4.35 for Zones 1-2



          Journeys are tallied against the running totals of all applicable caps, so all journeys are tallied against the Anytime cap but only some are tallied against the Off Peak cap.



          Your Zone 1-2 travel is split across both of those caps, with all three journeys being tallied against the Anytime cap running total but only two journeys being tallied against the Off Peak cap running total.



          Your cap totals are thusly £4.80 for Anytime and £3.20 for Off Peak in Zones 1-2, so neither cap was reached.







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          • I follow what you say but it doesn't quite match up for me: [url=ibb.co/kqH7XF][img]https://preview.ibb.co/mWbeev/… This shows me reaching an off peak cap during the peak on a different day, so surely then it's not the timing but actually the zones. This also makes sense with what london oyster says: Here which says that the caps in the evening peak that are applied are off peak caps, even if a full price peak single fare is charged. Thanks so much for your help
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:42











          • I screwed up the picture sorry it is Here
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:48











          • @TomGill that page on oyster-rail.org.uk is wrong, it's a third party site, so don't assume it's correct.
            – Moo
            Aug 12 '17 at 11:02
















          • I follow what you say but it doesn't quite match up for me: [url=ibb.co/kqH7XF][img]https://preview.ibb.co/mWbeev/… This shows me reaching an off peak cap during the peak on a different day, so surely then it's not the timing but actually the zones. This also makes sense with what london oyster says: Here which says that the caps in the evening peak that are applied are off peak caps, even if a full price peak single fare is charged. Thanks so much for your help
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:42











          • I screwed up the picture sorry it is Here
            – Tom Gill
            Aug 12 '17 at 10:48











          • @TomGill that page on oyster-rail.org.uk is wrong, it's a third party site, so don't assume it's correct.
            – Moo
            Aug 12 '17 at 11:02















          I follow what you say but it doesn't quite match up for me: [url=ibb.co/kqH7XF][img]https://preview.ibb.co/mWbeev/… This shows me reaching an off peak cap during the peak on a different day, so surely then it's not the timing but actually the zones. This also makes sense with what london oyster says: Here which says that the caps in the evening peak that are applied are off peak caps, even if a full price peak single fare is charged. Thanks so much for your help
          – Tom Gill
          Aug 12 '17 at 10:42





          I follow what you say but it doesn't quite match up for me: [url=ibb.co/kqH7XF][img]https://preview.ibb.co/mWbeev/… This shows me reaching an off peak cap during the peak on a different day, so surely then it's not the timing but actually the zones. This also makes sense with what london oyster says: Here which says that the caps in the evening peak that are applied are off peak caps, even if a full price peak single fare is charged. Thanks so much for your help
          – Tom Gill
          Aug 12 '17 at 10:42













          I screwed up the picture sorry it is Here
          – Tom Gill
          Aug 12 '17 at 10:48





          I screwed up the picture sorry it is Here
          – Tom Gill
          Aug 12 '17 at 10:48













          @TomGill that page on oyster-rail.org.uk is wrong, it's a third party site, so don't assume it's correct.
          – Moo
          Aug 12 '17 at 11:02




          @TomGill that page on oyster-rail.org.uk is wrong, it's a third party site, so don't assume it's correct.
          – Moo
          Aug 12 '17 at 11:02

















           

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