NIE (foreign identification number) in process. Can I travel through Schengen zone with the 90 days visa expired?
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I'm Italian living in Spain. I have an NIE. My wife (she is Argentinean) came here and we tried to get her NIE (she gets a "permiso de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la UE" which is a permission because she is an EU citizen's relative) but one document was missing. Now we have presented that document but the NIE process is not over yet. Her 90-day visa as an Argentinean has expired and we have flight tickets to Berlin, Germany on December 22.
Most probably the NIE will still be in process on that date, so is it safe to do the travel or should we cancel it?
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I'm Italian living in Spain. I have an NIE. My wife (she is Argentinean) came here and we tried to get her NIE (she gets a "permiso de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la UE" which is a permission because she is an EU citizen's relative) but one document was missing. Now we have presented that document but the NIE process is not over yet. Her 90-day visa as an Argentinean has expired and we have flight tickets to Berlin, Germany on December 22.
Most probably the NIE will still be in process on that date, so is it safe to do the travel or should we cancel it?
visas spain argentina berlin permits
edited Nov 28 '17 at 13:38
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asked Nov 28 '17 at 13:04
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up vote
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I'm Italian living in Spain. I have an NIE. My wife (she is Argentinean) came here and we tried to get her NIE (she gets a "permiso de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la UE" which is a permission because she is an EU citizen's relative) but one document was missing. Now we have presented that document but the NIE process is not over yet. Her 90-day visa as an Argentinean has expired and we have flight tickets to Berlin, Germany on December 22.
Most probably the NIE will still be in process on that date, so is it safe to do the travel or should we cancel it?
visas spain argentina berlin permits
edited Nov 28 '17 at 13:38
phoog
61.9k9135195
asked Nov 28 '17 at 13:04
Martin Palmieri
133
I'm Italian living in Spain. I have an NIE. My wife (she is Argentinean) came here and we tried to get her NIE (she gets a "permiso de residencia de familiar de ciudadano de la UE" which is a permission because she is an EU citizen's relative) but one document was missing. Now we have presented that document but the NIE process is not over yet. Her 90-day visa as an Argentinean has expired and we have flight tickets to Berlin, Germany on December 22.
Most probably the NIE will still be in process on that date, so is it safe to do the travel or should we cancel it?
visas spain argentina berlin permits
visas spain argentina berlin permits
edited Nov 28 '17 at 13:38
phoog
61.9k9135195
asked Nov 28 '17 at 13:04
Martin Palmieri
133
edited Nov 28 '17 at 13:38
phoog
61.9k9135195
asked Nov 28 '17 at 13:04
Martin Palmieri
133
edited Nov 28 '17 at 13:38
phoog
61.9k9135195
edited Nov 28 '17 at 13:38
phoog
61.9k9135195
edited Nov 28 '17 at 13:38
phoog
61.9k9135195
61.9k9135195
asked Nov 28 '17 at 13:04
Martin Palmieri
133
asked Nov 28 '17 at 13:04
Martin Palmieri
133
asked Nov 28 '17 at 13:04
Martin Palmieri
133
133
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As your wife, she enjoys freedom of movement under EU law whenever she travels with you or to join you. This right is not dependent on her having any documentation beyond a valid passport. You should bring a copy of your marriage certificate to prove your relationship if you are challenged by any police or other government authorities.
The airline may have additional documentation requirements, which you should check, but since you have not said which airline it is, we can't help you with that.
answered Nov 28 '17 at 13:35
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Thanks for your quick response. I was not aware of this. Is there somewhere where I can look? Like a law or something that tells that? The airline is Ryanair, I'll check for additional documentation but we have all (marriage certificate, passports, etc) edit: And thanks for the edition on the answer :D
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 13:42
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@MartinPalmieri: The relevant law is Directive 2004/38/EC. Ryanair is unfortunately infamous for requiring visas and other official documentation from non-EEA travelers beyond anything anyone who is not a Ryanair spokesperson can see that the law obliges them to, even for Schengen-internal flights, so you're probably out of luck there.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 28 '17 at 13:46
@MartinPalmieri I've added a link to the directive. Unfortunately, Ryanair is notorious for having strict documentation requirements.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:47
@HenningMakholm fortunately, Argentinean citizens are visa exempt in Schengen. I don't know whether Ryanair checks passport stamp dates, however.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:53
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@phoog great. Thank you very much for your response. I'm checking in the Schengen Borders Code and I think that, if Ryanair does not demand anything weird, we will be OK. Also: is possible to vote the comments too? I'm not finding how to do it :/
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 14:41
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1 Answer
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active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
As your wife, she enjoys freedom of movement under EU law whenever she travels with you or to join you. This right is not dependent on her having any documentation beyond a valid passport. You should bring a copy of your marriage certificate to prove your relationship if you are challenged by any police or other government authorities.
The airline may have additional documentation requirements, which you should check, but since you have not said which airline it is, we can't help you with that.
answered Nov 28 '17 at 13:35
phoog
61.9k9135195
Thanks for your quick response. I was not aware of this. Is there somewhere where I can look? Like a law or something that tells that? The airline is Ryanair, I'll check for additional documentation but we have all (marriage certificate, passports, etc) edit: And thanks for the edition on the answer :D
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 13:42
1
@MartinPalmieri: The relevant law is Directive 2004/38/EC. Ryanair is unfortunately infamous for requiring visas and other official documentation from non-EEA travelers beyond anything anyone who is not a Ryanair spokesperson can see that the law obliges them to, even for Schengen-internal flights, so you're probably out of luck there.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 28 '17 at 13:46
@MartinPalmieri I've added a link to the directive. Unfortunately, Ryanair is notorious for having strict documentation requirements.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:47
@HenningMakholm fortunately, Argentinean citizens are visa exempt in Schengen. I don't know whether Ryanair checks passport stamp dates, however.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:53
1
@phoog great. Thank you very much for your response. I'm checking in the Schengen Borders Code and I think that, if Ryanair does not demand anything weird, we will be OK. Also: is possible to vote the comments too? I'm not finding how to do it :/
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 14:41
 |Â
show 4 more comments
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
As your wife, she enjoys freedom of movement under EU law whenever she travels with you or to join you. This right is not dependent on her having any documentation beyond a valid passport. You should bring a copy of your marriage certificate to prove your relationship if you are challenged by any police or other government authorities.
The airline may have additional documentation requirements, which you should check, but since you have not said which airline it is, we can't help you with that.
answered Nov 28 '17 at 13:35
phoog
61.9k9135195
Thanks for your quick response. I was not aware of this. Is there somewhere where I can look? Like a law or something that tells that? The airline is Ryanair, I'll check for additional documentation but we have all (marriage certificate, passports, etc) edit: And thanks for the edition on the answer :D
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 13:42
1
@MartinPalmieri: The relevant law is Directive 2004/38/EC. Ryanair is unfortunately infamous for requiring visas and other official documentation from non-EEA travelers beyond anything anyone who is not a Ryanair spokesperson can see that the law obliges them to, even for Schengen-internal flights, so you're probably out of luck there.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 28 '17 at 13:46
@MartinPalmieri I've added a link to the directive. Unfortunately, Ryanair is notorious for having strict documentation requirements.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:47
@HenningMakholm fortunately, Argentinean citizens are visa exempt in Schengen. I don't know whether Ryanair checks passport stamp dates, however.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:53
1
@phoog great. Thank you very much for your response. I'm checking in the Schengen Borders Code and I think that, if Ryanair does not demand anything weird, we will be OK. Also: is possible to vote the comments too? I'm not finding how to do it :/
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 14:41
 |Â
show 4 more comments
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
As your wife, she enjoys freedom of movement under EU law whenever she travels with you or to join you. This right is not dependent on her having any documentation beyond a valid passport. You should bring a copy of your marriage certificate to prove your relationship if you are challenged by any police or other government authorities.
The airline may have additional documentation requirements, which you should check, but since you have not said which airline it is, we can't help you with that.
answered Nov 28 '17 at 13:35
phoog
61.9k9135195
As your wife, she enjoys freedom of movement under EU law whenever she travels with you or to join you. This right is not dependent on her having any documentation beyond a valid passport. You should bring a copy of your marriage certificate to prove your relationship if you are challenged by any police or other government authorities.
The airline may have additional documentation requirements, which you should check, but since you have not said which airline it is, we can't help you with that.
answered Nov 28 '17 at 13:35
phoog
61.9k9135195
edited Nov 28 '17 at 13:46
answered Nov 28 '17 at 13:35
phoog
61.9k9135195
answered Nov 28 '17 at 13:35
phoog
61.9k9135195
answered Nov 28 '17 at 13:35
phoog
61.9k9135195
61.9k9135195
Thanks for your quick response. I was not aware of this. Is there somewhere where I can look? Like a law or something that tells that? The airline is Ryanair, I'll check for additional documentation but we have all (marriage certificate, passports, etc) edit: And thanks for the edition on the answer :D
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 13:42
1
@MartinPalmieri: The relevant law is Directive 2004/38/EC. Ryanair is unfortunately infamous for requiring visas and other official documentation from non-EEA travelers beyond anything anyone who is not a Ryanair spokesperson can see that the law obliges them to, even for Schengen-internal flights, so you're probably out of luck there.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 28 '17 at 13:46
@MartinPalmieri I've added a link to the directive. Unfortunately, Ryanair is notorious for having strict documentation requirements.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:47
@HenningMakholm fortunately, Argentinean citizens are visa exempt in Schengen. I don't know whether Ryanair checks passport stamp dates, however.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:53
1
@phoog great. Thank you very much for your response. I'm checking in the Schengen Borders Code and I think that, if Ryanair does not demand anything weird, we will be OK. Also: is possible to vote the comments too? I'm not finding how to do it :/
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 14:41
 |Â
show 4 more comments
Thanks for your quick response. I was not aware of this. Is there somewhere where I can look? Like a law or something that tells that? The airline is Ryanair, I'll check for additional documentation but we have all (marriage certificate, passports, etc) edit: And thanks for the edition on the answer :D
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 13:42
1
@MartinPalmieri: The relevant law is Directive 2004/38/EC. Ryanair is unfortunately infamous for requiring visas and other official documentation from non-EEA travelers beyond anything anyone who is not a Ryanair spokesperson can see that the law obliges them to, even for Schengen-internal flights, so you're probably out of luck there.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 28 '17 at 13:46
@MartinPalmieri I've added a link to the directive. Unfortunately, Ryanair is notorious for having strict documentation requirements.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:47
@HenningMakholm fortunately, Argentinean citizens are visa exempt in Schengen. I don't know whether Ryanair checks passport stamp dates, however.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:53
1
@phoog great. Thank you very much for your response. I'm checking in the Schengen Borders Code and I think that, if Ryanair does not demand anything weird, we will be OK. Also: is possible to vote the comments too? I'm not finding how to do it :/
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 14:41
Thanks for your quick response. I was not aware of this. Is there somewhere where I can look? Like a law or something that tells that? The airline is Ryanair, I'll check for additional documentation but we have all (marriage certificate, passports, etc) edit: And thanks for the edition on the answer :D
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 13:42
Thanks for your quick response. I was not aware of this. Is there somewhere where I can look? Like a law or something that tells that? The airline is Ryanair, I'll check for additional documentation but we have all (marriage certificate, passports, etc) edit: And thanks for the edition on the answer :D
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 13:42
1
1
@MartinPalmieri: The relevant law is Directive 2004/38/EC. Ryanair is unfortunately infamous for requiring visas and other official documentation from non-EEA travelers beyond anything anyone who is not a Ryanair spokesperson can see that the law obliges them to, even for Schengen-internal flights, so you're probably out of luck there.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 28 '17 at 13:46
@MartinPalmieri: The relevant law is Directive 2004/38/EC. Ryanair is unfortunately infamous for requiring visas and other official documentation from non-EEA travelers beyond anything anyone who is not a Ryanair spokesperson can see that the law obliges them to, even for Schengen-internal flights, so you're probably out of luck there.
– Henning Makholm
Nov 28 '17 at 13:46
@MartinPalmieri I've added a link to the directive. Unfortunately, Ryanair is notorious for having strict documentation requirements.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:47
@MartinPalmieri I've added a link to the directive. Unfortunately, Ryanair is notorious for having strict documentation requirements.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:47
@HenningMakholm fortunately, Argentinean citizens are visa exempt in Schengen. I don't know whether Ryanair checks passport stamp dates, however.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:53
@HenningMakholm fortunately, Argentinean citizens are visa exempt in Schengen. I don't know whether Ryanair checks passport stamp dates, however.
– phoog
Nov 28 '17 at 13:53
1
1
@phoog great. Thank you very much for your response. I'm checking in the Schengen Borders Code and I think that, if Ryanair does not demand anything weird, we will be OK. Also: is possible to vote the comments too? I'm not finding how to do it :/
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 14:41
@phoog great. Thank you very much for your response. I'm checking in the Schengen Borders Code and I think that, if Ryanair does not demand anything weird, we will be OK. Also: is possible to vote the comments too? I'm not finding how to do it :/
– Martin Palmieri
Nov 28 '17 at 14:41
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