Can I travel to the UK after having previously been denied a Tier 5 visa?
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I went into the UK in October '15 coming from work in Japan and came to UK to see work clients. I didn't have a return flight but they still granted me to come in with a letter from my work. No issues.
Anyway, I came for two months (Oct-Dec) and left back to NYC (I am a US citizen) to do my UK visa. My type of visa was sponsorship so I believe Tier 5 type visa. I applied but was immediately denied due to the wrong paperwork my work (my modeling agency) provided me. The UK uses a point system and I got no points for the paperwork the modeling agency sent me.
Anyway, it's been almost three months and I have friends/boyfriend that I want to go visit next week.
Should I apply for a visitor visa?
Any legal advice anyone can give me?
I am strongly not going for work. Also I am staying with my best friend who lives/works in London.
customs-and-immigration visa-refusals us-citizens standard-visitor-visas
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I went into the UK in October '15 coming from work in Japan and came to UK to see work clients. I didn't have a return flight but they still granted me to come in with a letter from my work. No issues.
Anyway, I came for two months (Oct-Dec) and left back to NYC (I am a US citizen) to do my UK visa. My type of visa was sponsorship so I believe Tier 5 type visa. I applied but was immediately denied due to the wrong paperwork my work (my modeling agency) provided me. The UK uses a point system and I got no points for the paperwork the modeling agency sent me.
Anyway, it's been almost three months and I have friends/boyfriend that I want to go visit next week.
Should I apply for a visitor visa?
Any legal advice anyone can give me?
I am strongly not going for work. Also I am staying with my best friend who lives/works in London.
customs-and-immigration visa-refusals us-citizens standard-visitor-visas
edited Feb 26 '17 at 8:28
JonathanReez♦
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asked Mar 31 '16 at 22:56
ninjaturtlesninjaturtles
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1
The general rule of thumb is that if you get a refusal or removal, then your next visit(s) should be on an entry clearance. But if you have already purchased tickets and are leaving next week, there's not enough time for that. Note that "should I apply for a visitor visa" is an opinion-based thing.
– Gayot Fow
Mar 31 '16 at 23:37
1
Take with you every scrap of evidence you can put together that you have a life in NYC that you are strongly motivated to return to. There is going to be a strong suspicion that you are really trying to immigrate and will throw away the return ticket. For example, do you have post-travel work lined up in NYC?
– Patricia Shanahan
Apr 1 '16 at 0:03
3
"Any legal advice anyone can give me?" Only a lawyer. We're not lawyers. We don't and can't give legal advice.
– David Richerby
Apr 1 '16 at 0:14
4
Can you scan and upload images of: (1) Your stamp in your passport from the most recent time you were granted leave to enter the UK, and (2) your visa refusal notice (with personal information blacked out)? These may be helpful in understanding your complete situation.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 1 '16 at 2:12
1
@MichaelHampton, I agree. The refusal notice puts definitive shape on the OP's circumstances, even if it is from the PBS side. If the OP provides it and I spot it, I will hammer the question open and ping you so you can add the answer. Otherwise 'legal advice' type questions are 'opinion-based' or 'unclear' :)
– Gayot Fow
Apr 1 '16 at 5:20
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I went into the UK in October '15 coming from work in Japan and came to UK to see work clients. I didn't have a return flight but they still granted me to come in with a letter from my work. No issues.
Anyway, I came for two months (Oct-Dec) and left back to NYC (I am a US citizen) to do my UK visa. My type of visa was sponsorship so I believe Tier 5 type visa. I applied but was immediately denied due to the wrong paperwork my work (my modeling agency) provided me. The UK uses a point system and I got no points for the paperwork the modeling agency sent me.
Anyway, it's been almost three months and I have friends/boyfriend that I want to go visit next week.
Should I apply for a visitor visa?
Any legal advice anyone can give me?
I am strongly not going for work. Also I am staying with my best friend who lives/works in London.
customs-and-immigration visa-refusals us-citizens standard-visitor-visas
edited Feb 26 '17 at 8:28
JonathanReez♦
50k41239516
asked Mar 31 '16 at 22:56
ninjaturtlesninjaturtles
162
I went into the UK in October '15 coming from work in Japan and came to UK to see work clients. I didn't have a return flight but they still granted me to come in with a letter from my work. No issues.
Anyway, I came for two months (Oct-Dec) and left back to NYC (I am a US citizen) to do my UK visa. My type of visa was sponsorship so I believe Tier 5 type visa. I applied but was immediately denied due to the wrong paperwork my work (my modeling agency) provided me. The UK uses a point system and I got no points for the paperwork the modeling agency sent me.
Anyway, it's been almost three months and I have friends/boyfriend that I want to go visit next week.
Should I apply for a visitor visa?
Any legal advice anyone can give me?
I am strongly not going for work. Also I am staying with my best friend who lives/works in London.
customs-and-immigration visa-refusals us-citizens standard-visitor-visas
customs-and-immigration visa-refusals us-citizens standard-visitor-visas
edited Feb 26 '17 at 8:28
JonathanReez♦
50k41239516
asked Mar 31 '16 at 22:56
ninjaturtlesninjaturtles
162
edited Feb 26 '17 at 8:28
JonathanReez♦
50k41239516
asked Mar 31 '16 at 22:56
ninjaturtlesninjaturtles
162
edited Feb 26 '17 at 8:28
JonathanReez♦
50k41239516
edited Feb 26 '17 at 8:28
JonathanReez♦
50k41239516
edited Feb 26 '17 at 8:28
JonathanReez♦
50k41239516
50k41239516
asked Mar 31 '16 at 22:56
ninjaturtlesninjaturtles
162
asked Mar 31 '16 at 22:56
ninjaturtlesninjaturtles
162
asked Mar 31 '16 at 22:56
ninjaturtlesninjaturtles
162
162
1
The general rule of thumb is that if you get a refusal or removal, then your next visit(s) should be on an entry clearance. But if you have already purchased tickets and are leaving next week, there's not enough time for that. Note that "should I apply for a visitor visa" is an opinion-based thing.
– Gayot Fow
Mar 31 '16 at 23:37
1
Take with you every scrap of evidence you can put together that you have a life in NYC that you are strongly motivated to return to. There is going to be a strong suspicion that you are really trying to immigrate and will throw away the return ticket. For example, do you have post-travel work lined up in NYC?
– Patricia Shanahan
Apr 1 '16 at 0:03
3
"Any legal advice anyone can give me?" Only a lawyer. We're not lawyers. We don't and can't give legal advice.
– David Richerby
Apr 1 '16 at 0:14
4
Can you scan and upload images of: (1) Your stamp in your passport from the most recent time you were granted leave to enter the UK, and (2) your visa refusal notice (with personal information blacked out)? These may be helpful in understanding your complete situation.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 1 '16 at 2:12
1
@MichaelHampton, I agree. The refusal notice puts definitive shape on the OP's circumstances, even if it is from the PBS side. If the OP provides it and I spot it, I will hammer the question open and ping you so you can add the answer. Otherwise 'legal advice' type questions are 'opinion-based' or 'unclear' :)
– Gayot Fow
Apr 1 '16 at 5:20
|
show 5 more comments
1
The general rule of thumb is that if you get a refusal or removal, then your next visit(s) should be on an entry clearance. But if you have already purchased tickets and are leaving next week, there's not enough time for that. Note that "should I apply for a visitor visa" is an opinion-based thing.
– Gayot Fow
Mar 31 '16 at 23:37
1
Take with you every scrap of evidence you can put together that you have a life in NYC that you are strongly motivated to return to. There is going to be a strong suspicion that you are really trying to immigrate and will throw away the return ticket. For example, do you have post-travel work lined up in NYC?
– Patricia Shanahan
Apr 1 '16 at 0:03
3
"Any legal advice anyone can give me?" Only a lawyer. We're not lawyers. We don't and can't give legal advice.
– David Richerby
Apr 1 '16 at 0:14
4
Can you scan and upload images of: (1) Your stamp in your passport from the most recent time you were granted leave to enter the UK, and (2) your visa refusal notice (with personal information blacked out)? These may be helpful in understanding your complete situation.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 1 '16 at 2:12
1
@MichaelHampton, I agree. The refusal notice puts definitive shape on the OP's circumstances, even if it is from the PBS side. If the OP provides it and I spot it, I will hammer the question open and ping you so you can add the answer. Otherwise 'legal advice' type questions are 'opinion-based' or 'unclear' :)
– Gayot Fow
Apr 1 '16 at 5:20
1
1
The general rule of thumb is that if you get a refusal or removal, then your next visit(s) should be on an entry clearance. But if you have already purchased tickets and are leaving next week, there's not enough time for that. Note that "should I apply for a visitor visa" is an opinion-based thing.
– Gayot Fow
Mar 31 '16 at 23:37
The general rule of thumb is that if you get a refusal or removal, then your next visit(s) should be on an entry clearance. But if you have already purchased tickets and are leaving next week, there's not enough time for that. Note that "should I apply for a visitor visa" is an opinion-based thing.
– Gayot Fow
Mar 31 '16 at 23:37
1
1
Take with you every scrap of evidence you can put together that you have a life in NYC that you are strongly motivated to return to. There is going to be a strong suspicion that you are really trying to immigrate and will throw away the return ticket. For example, do you have post-travel work lined up in NYC?
– Patricia Shanahan
Apr 1 '16 at 0:03
Take with you every scrap of evidence you can put together that you have a life in NYC that you are strongly motivated to return to. There is going to be a strong suspicion that you are really trying to immigrate and will throw away the return ticket. For example, do you have post-travel work lined up in NYC?
– Patricia Shanahan
Apr 1 '16 at 0:03
3
3
"Any legal advice anyone can give me?" Only a lawyer. We're not lawyers. We don't and can't give legal advice.
– David Richerby
Apr 1 '16 at 0:14
"Any legal advice anyone can give me?" Only a lawyer. We're not lawyers. We don't and can't give legal advice.
– David Richerby
Apr 1 '16 at 0:14
4
4
Can you scan and upload images of: (1) Your stamp in your passport from the most recent time you were granted leave to enter the UK, and (2) your visa refusal notice (with personal information blacked out)? These may be helpful in understanding your complete situation.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 1 '16 at 2:12
Can you scan and upload images of: (1) Your stamp in your passport from the most recent time you were granted leave to enter the UK, and (2) your visa refusal notice (with personal information blacked out)? These may be helpful in understanding your complete situation.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 1 '16 at 2:12
1
1
@MichaelHampton, I agree. The refusal notice puts definitive shape on the OP's circumstances, even if it is from the PBS side. If the OP provides it and I spot it, I will hammer the question open and ping you so you can add the answer. Otherwise 'legal advice' type questions are 'opinion-based' or 'unclear' :)
– Gayot Fow
Apr 1 '16 at 5:20
@MichaelHampton, I agree. The refusal notice puts definitive shape on the OP's circumstances, even if it is from the PBS side. If the OP provides it and I spot it, I will hammer the question open and ping you so you can add the answer. Otherwise 'legal advice' type questions are 'opinion-based' or 'unclear' :)
– Gayot Fow
Apr 1 '16 at 5:20
|
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Legal advice is something that nobody is qualified to do (or could legally do here).
However, your broad questions of do you need/should you apply for a Visa is reasonably well covered by the offical UK government visa checker:
You won’t need a visa to come to the UK
However, you should bring the same documents you’d need to apply for a visa, to show to officers at the UK border.
You may want to apply for a visa if you have a criminal record or you’ve previously been refused entry into the UK.
You've been refused a work visa in the past. This will show up when you arrive in the UK. For any future entry, or any visitor visa application, you're going to have to try quite hard to convince the authorities that you don't intend on trying to work.
Your liklehood (or lack thereof) of obtaining a Visa I wouldn't care to comment on. You can find out more about UK visitor visas, along with application guidance on gov.uk
answered Apr 1 '16 at 8:47
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Being refused entry is a completely different thing to being refused a visa.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 2 '16 at 1:10
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Legal advice is something that nobody is qualified to do (or could legally do here).
However, your broad questions of do you need/should you apply for a Visa is reasonably well covered by the offical UK government visa checker:
You won’t need a visa to come to the UK
However, you should bring the same documents you’d need to apply for a visa, to show to officers at the UK border.
You may want to apply for a visa if you have a criminal record or you’ve previously been refused entry into the UK.
You've been refused a work visa in the past. This will show up when you arrive in the UK. For any future entry, or any visitor visa application, you're going to have to try quite hard to convince the authorities that you don't intend on trying to work.
Your liklehood (or lack thereof) of obtaining a Visa I wouldn't care to comment on. You can find out more about UK visitor visas, along with application guidance on gov.uk
answered Apr 1 '16 at 8:47
CMasterCMaster
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Being refused entry is a completely different thing to being refused a visa.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 2 '16 at 1:10
add a comment |
Legal advice is something that nobody is qualified to do (or could legally do here).
However, your broad questions of do you need/should you apply for a Visa is reasonably well covered by the offical UK government visa checker:
You won’t need a visa to come to the UK
However, you should bring the same documents you’d need to apply for a visa, to show to officers at the UK border.
You may want to apply for a visa if you have a criminal record or you’ve previously been refused entry into the UK.
You've been refused a work visa in the past. This will show up when you arrive in the UK. For any future entry, or any visitor visa application, you're going to have to try quite hard to convince the authorities that you don't intend on trying to work.
Your liklehood (or lack thereof) of obtaining a Visa I wouldn't care to comment on. You can find out more about UK visitor visas, along with application guidance on gov.uk
answered Apr 1 '16 at 8:47
CMasterCMaster
10.7k44792
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Being refused entry is a completely different thing to being refused a visa.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 2 '16 at 1:10
add a comment |
Legal advice is something that nobody is qualified to do (or could legally do here).
However, your broad questions of do you need/should you apply for a Visa is reasonably well covered by the offical UK government visa checker:
You won’t need a visa to come to the UK
However, you should bring the same documents you’d need to apply for a visa, to show to officers at the UK border.
You may want to apply for a visa if you have a criminal record or you’ve previously been refused entry into the UK.
You've been refused a work visa in the past. This will show up when you arrive in the UK. For any future entry, or any visitor visa application, you're going to have to try quite hard to convince the authorities that you don't intend on trying to work.
Your liklehood (or lack thereof) of obtaining a Visa I wouldn't care to comment on. You can find out more about UK visitor visas, along with application guidance on gov.uk
answered Apr 1 '16 at 8:47
CMasterCMaster
10.7k44792
Legal advice is something that nobody is qualified to do (or could legally do here).
However, your broad questions of do you need/should you apply for a Visa is reasonably well covered by the offical UK government visa checker:
You won’t need a visa to come to the UK
However, you should bring the same documents you’d need to apply for a visa, to show to officers at the UK border.
You may want to apply for a visa if you have a criminal record or you’ve previously been refused entry into the UK.
You've been refused a work visa in the past. This will show up when you arrive in the UK. For any future entry, or any visitor visa application, you're going to have to try quite hard to convince the authorities that you don't intend on trying to work.
Your liklehood (or lack thereof) of obtaining a Visa I wouldn't care to comment on. You can find out more about UK visitor visas, along with application guidance on gov.uk
answered Apr 1 '16 at 8:47
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answered Apr 1 '16 at 8:47
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answered Apr 1 '16 at 8:47
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Being refused entry is a completely different thing to being refused a visa.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 2 '16 at 1:10
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Being refused entry is a completely different thing to being refused a visa.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 2 '16 at 1:10
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Being refused entry is a completely different thing to being refused a visa.
– Michael Hampton
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Being refused entry is a completely different thing to being refused a visa.
– Michael Hampton
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The general rule of thumb is that if you get a refusal or removal, then your next visit(s) should be on an entry clearance. But if you have already purchased tickets and are leaving next week, there's not enough time for that. Note that "should I apply for a visitor visa" is an opinion-based thing.
– Gayot Fow
Mar 31 '16 at 23:37
1
Take with you every scrap of evidence you can put together that you have a life in NYC that you are strongly motivated to return to. There is going to be a strong suspicion that you are really trying to immigrate and will throw away the return ticket. For example, do you have post-travel work lined up in NYC?
– Patricia Shanahan
Apr 1 '16 at 0:03
3
"Any legal advice anyone can give me?" Only a lawyer. We're not lawyers. We don't and can't give legal advice.
– David Richerby
Apr 1 '16 at 0:14
4
Can you scan and upload images of: (1) Your stamp in your passport from the most recent time you were granted leave to enter the UK, and (2) your visa refusal notice (with personal information blacked out)? These may be helpful in understanding your complete situation.
– Michael Hampton
Apr 1 '16 at 2:12
1
@MichaelHampton, I agree. The refusal notice puts definitive shape on the OP's circumstances, even if it is from the PBS side. If the OP provides it and I spot it, I will hammer the question open and ping you so you can add the answer. Otherwise 'legal advice' type questions are 'opinion-based' or 'unclear' :)
– Gayot Fow
Apr 1 '16 at 5:20