Holder of the 1951 Convention travel document issued by an EU country
I am a holder of the UN 1951 Convention travel document issued by Malta - an EU country. I have been travelling within the Schengen area for many years. In one week I'm going to Denmark for a week and in August I'm travelling to Spain for one week as well, however my Convention travel document will expire at the end of October.
I've done some research online and I know that as an EU citizen, it is OK to travel to another Schengen country as long as one's passport is still valid until the last day (no 3/6-months rule applied). However I don't know if this also applies for a Convention travel document issued by an EU country.
Is there any expert out there who can give me a definitive answer please?
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I am a holder of the UN 1951 Convention travel document issued by Malta - an EU country. I have been travelling within the Schengen area for many years. In one week I'm going to Denmark for a week and in August I'm travelling to Spain for one week as well, however my Convention travel document will expire at the end of October.
I've done some research online and I know that as an EU citizen, it is OK to travel to another Schengen country as long as one's passport is still valid until the last day (no 3/6-months rule applied). However I don't know if this also applies for a Convention travel document issued by an EU country.
Is there any expert out there who can give me a definitive answer please?
schengen passports europe paperwork refugees
edited Aug 2 '18 at 21:32
krubo
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asked Jul 5 '16 at 11:18
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Do you mean your 1951 travel document expires, or that you hold a passport that expires?
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:31
For a refugee, a 1951 Convention Travel Document = Passport. It usually expires after a couple of years then I renew it. This time it expires end of October 2016.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
3
It is a mistake to conflate those two terms. A UN travel document is not a passport, even if you use it like one. There is a technical difference.
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
OK sure. That's not my question however.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:36
We know exactly what the convention travel documents are. That is why you were given the warning about not confusing it with a passport.
– Michael Hampton
Jul 5 '16 at 16:39
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I am a holder of the UN 1951 Convention travel document issued by Malta - an EU country. I have been travelling within the Schengen area for many years. In one week I'm going to Denmark for a week and in August I'm travelling to Spain for one week as well, however my Convention travel document will expire at the end of October.
I've done some research online and I know that as an EU citizen, it is OK to travel to another Schengen country as long as one's passport is still valid until the last day (no 3/6-months rule applied). However I don't know if this also applies for a Convention travel document issued by an EU country.
Is there any expert out there who can give me a definitive answer please?
schengen passports europe paperwork refugees
edited Aug 2 '18 at 21:32
krubo
2,526522
asked Jul 5 '16 at 11:18
eu_travellereu_traveller
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I am a holder of the UN 1951 Convention travel document issued by Malta - an EU country. I have been travelling within the Schengen area for many years. In one week I'm going to Denmark for a week and in August I'm travelling to Spain for one week as well, however my Convention travel document will expire at the end of October.
I've done some research online and I know that as an EU citizen, it is OK to travel to another Schengen country as long as one's passport is still valid until the last day (no 3/6-months rule applied). However I don't know if this also applies for a Convention travel document issued by an EU country.
Is there any expert out there who can give me a definitive answer please?
schengen passports europe paperwork refugees
schengen passports europe paperwork refugees
edited Aug 2 '18 at 21:32
krubo
2,526522
asked Jul 5 '16 at 11:18
eu_travellereu_traveller
613
edited Aug 2 '18 at 21:32
krubo
2,526522
asked Jul 5 '16 at 11:18
eu_travellereu_traveller
613
edited Aug 2 '18 at 21:32
krubo
2,526522
edited Aug 2 '18 at 21:32
krubo
2,526522
edited Aug 2 '18 at 21:32
krubo
2,526522
2,526522
asked Jul 5 '16 at 11:18
eu_travellereu_traveller
613
asked Jul 5 '16 at 11:18
eu_travellereu_traveller
613
asked Jul 5 '16 at 11:18
eu_travellereu_traveller
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613
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Do you mean your 1951 travel document expires, or that you hold a passport that expires?
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:31
For a refugee, a 1951 Convention Travel Document = Passport. It usually expires after a couple of years then I renew it. This time it expires end of October 2016.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
3
It is a mistake to conflate those two terms. A UN travel document is not a passport, even if you use it like one. There is a technical difference.
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
OK sure. That's not my question however.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:36
We know exactly what the convention travel documents are. That is why you were given the warning about not confusing it with a passport.
– Michael Hampton
Jul 5 '16 at 16:39
|
show 1 more comment
1
Do you mean your 1951 travel document expires, or that you hold a passport that expires?
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:31
For a refugee, a 1951 Convention Travel Document = Passport. It usually expires after a couple of years then I renew it. This time it expires end of October 2016.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
3
It is a mistake to conflate those two terms. A UN travel document is not a passport, even if you use it like one. There is a technical difference.
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
OK sure. That's not my question however.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:36
We know exactly what the convention travel documents are. That is why you were given the warning about not confusing it with a passport.
– Michael Hampton
Jul 5 '16 at 16:39
1
1
Do you mean your 1951 travel document expires, or that you hold a passport that expires?
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:31
Do you mean your 1951 travel document expires, or that you hold a passport that expires?
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:31
For a refugee, a 1951 Convention Travel Document = Passport. It usually expires after a couple of years then I renew it. This time it expires end of October 2016.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
For a refugee, a 1951 Convention Travel Document = Passport. It usually expires after a couple of years then I renew it. This time it expires end of October 2016.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
3
3
It is a mistake to conflate those two terms. A UN travel document is not a passport, even if you use it like one. There is a technical difference.
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
It is a mistake to conflate those two terms. A UN travel document is not a passport, even if you use it like one. There is a technical difference.
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
OK sure. That's not my question however.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:36
OK sure. That's not my question however.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:36
We know exactly what the convention travel documents are. That is why you were given the warning about not confusing it with a passport.
– Michael Hampton
Jul 5 '16 at 16:39
We know exactly what the convention travel documents are. That is why you were given the warning about not confusing it with a passport.
– Michael Hampton
Jul 5 '16 at 16:39
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The short answer is, it seems you'll be ok.
It's hard to prove the opposite, because there's little detail about the validity of this document anywhere.
From searching through EU embassy websites and EU legal documents, they all claim to recognize the document but few specify what validity is accepted in case you don't need a visa. Denmark for example, only cares that you're a legal resident of Malta, Italy considers it equivalent to a passport.
23. Holders of valid travel documents issued under the Convention of 28
September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons, provided that
the travel document has been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States
Holders of valid travel documents issued in accordance with the Convention
of 28 September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons may
enter Denmark without any visa, provided that the travel document has
been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States and that the holder is a legal
resident of the EU/Schengen State that issued the travel document.
Belgium mentions it only need to be valid.
Condition générale: l'intéressé doit être en possession d'un document de voyage en cours de validité, délivré conformément aux règles [...], de la convention du 28 juillet 1951 relative au statut des réfugiés[...]. Les documents de voyage doivent contenir une autorisation de retour ayant une durée de validité suffisament longue.
According to the 1951 Convention, the travel document guarantees your right to return to the issuing country, in this case Malta, for the entire duration of the validity period.
Paragraph 13
1. Each Contracting State undertakes that the holder of a travel document issued by it in accordance with article 28 of this Convention shall be re- admitted to its territory at any time during the period of its validity.
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The short answer is, it seems you'll be ok.
It's hard to prove the opposite, because there's little detail about the validity of this document anywhere.
From searching through EU embassy websites and EU legal documents, they all claim to recognize the document but few specify what validity is accepted in case you don't need a visa. Denmark for example, only cares that you're a legal resident of Malta, Italy considers it equivalent to a passport.
23. Holders of valid travel documents issued under the Convention of 28
September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons, provided that
the travel document has been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States
Holders of valid travel documents issued in accordance with the Convention
of 28 September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons may
enter Denmark without any visa, provided that the travel document has
been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States and that the holder is a legal
resident of the EU/Schengen State that issued the travel document.
Belgium mentions it only need to be valid.
Condition générale: l'intéressé doit être en possession d'un document de voyage en cours de validité, délivré conformément aux règles [...], de la convention du 28 juillet 1951 relative au statut des réfugiés[...]. Les documents de voyage doivent contenir une autorisation de retour ayant une durée de validité suffisament longue.
According to the 1951 Convention, the travel document guarantees your right to return to the issuing country, in this case Malta, for the entire duration of the validity period.
Paragraph 13
1. Each Contracting State undertakes that the holder of a travel document issued by it in accordance with article 28 of this Convention shall be re- admitted to its territory at any time during the period of its validity.
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The short answer is, it seems you'll be ok.
It's hard to prove the opposite, because there's little detail about the validity of this document anywhere.
From searching through EU embassy websites and EU legal documents, they all claim to recognize the document but few specify what validity is accepted in case you don't need a visa. Denmark for example, only cares that you're a legal resident of Malta, Italy considers it equivalent to a passport.
23. Holders of valid travel documents issued under the Convention of 28
September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons, provided that
the travel document has been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States
Holders of valid travel documents issued in accordance with the Convention
of 28 September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons may
enter Denmark without any visa, provided that the travel document has
been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States and that the holder is a legal
resident of the EU/Schengen State that issued the travel document.
Belgium mentions it only need to be valid.
Condition générale: l'intéressé doit être en possession d'un document de voyage en cours de validité, délivré conformément aux règles [...], de la convention du 28 juillet 1951 relative au statut des réfugiés[...]. Les documents de voyage doivent contenir une autorisation de retour ayant une durée de validité suffisament longue.
According to the 1951 Convention, the travel document guarantees your right to return to the issuing country, in this case Malta, for the entire duration of the validity period.
Paragraph 13
1. Each Contracting State undertakes that the holder of a travel document issued by it in accordance with article 28 of this Convention shall be re- admitted to its territory at any time during the period of its validity.
answered Aug 2 '16 at 15:53
blackbirdblackbird
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The short answer is, it seems you'll be ok.
It's hard to prove the opposite, because there's little detail about the validity of this document anywhere.
From searching through EU embassy websites and EU legal documents, they all claim to recognize the document but few specify what validity is accepted in case you don't need a visa. Denmark for example, only cares that you're a legal resident of Malta, Italy considers it equivalent to a passport.
23. Holders of valid travel documents issued under the Convention of 28
September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons, provided that
the travel document has been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States
Holders of valid travel documents issued in accordance with the Convention
of 28 September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons may
enter Denmark without any visa, provided that the travel document has
been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States and that the holder is a legal
resident of the EU/Schengen State that issued the travel document.
Belgium mentions it only need to be valid.
Condition générale: l'intéressé doit être en possession d'un document de voyage en cours de validité, délivré conformément aux règles [...], de la convention du 28 juillet 1951 relative au statut des réfugiés[...]. Les documents de voyage doivent contenir une autorisation de retour ayant une durée de validité suffisament longue.
According to the 1951 Convention, the travel document guarantees your right to return to the issuing country, in this case Malta, for the entire duration of the validity period.
Paragraph 13
1. Each Contracting State undertakes that the holder of a travel document issued by it in accordance with article 28 of this Convention shall be re- admitted to its territory at any time during the period of its validity.
answered Aug 2 '16 at 15:53
blackbirdblackbird
13.8k741107
The short answer is, it seems you'll be ok.
It's hard to prove the opposite, because there's little detail about the validity of this document anywhere.
From searching through EU embassy websites and EU legal documents, they all claim to recognize the document but few specify what validity is accepted in case you don't need a visa. Denmark for example, only cares that you're a legal resident of Malta, Italy considers it equivalent to a passport.
23. Holders of valid travel documents issued under the Convention of 28
September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons, provided that
the travel document has been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States
Holders of valid travel documents issued in accordance with the Convention
of 28 September 1954 Relating to the Status of Stateless Persons may
enter Denmark without any visa, provided that the travel document has
been issued by one of the EU/Schengen States and that the holder is a legal
resident of the EU/Schengen State that issued the travel document.
Belgium mentions it only need to be valid.
Condition générale: l'intéressé doit être en possession d'un document de voyage en cours de validité, délivré conformément aux règles [...], de la convention du 28 juillet 1951 relative au statut des réfugiés[...]. Les documents de voyage doivent contenir une autorisation de retour ayant une durée de validité suffisament longue.
According to the 1951 Convention, the travel document guarantees your right to return to the issuing country, in this case Malta, for the entire duration of the validity period.
Paragraph 13
1. Each Contracting State undertakes that the holder of a travel document issued by it in accordance with article 28 of this Convention shall be re- admitted to its territory at any time during the period of its validity.
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Do you mean your 1951 travel document expires, or that you hold a passport that expires?
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:31
For a refugee, a 1951 Convention Travel Document = Passport. It usually expires after a couple of years then I renew it. This time it expires end of October 2016.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
3
It is a mistake to conflate those two terms. A UN travel document is not a passport, even if you use it like one. There is a technical difference.
– Calchas
Jul 5 '16 at 12:34
OK sure. That's not my question however.
– eu_traveller
Jul 5 '16 at 12:36
We know exactly what the convention travel documents are. That is why you were given the warning about not confusing it with a passport.
– Michael Hampton
Jul 5 '16 at 16:39