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I have done some investigations and I have found this to calculate and adjust pm.max_children value



https://myshell.co.uk/blog/2012/07/adjusting-child-processes-for-php-fpm-nginx/



but for example :



  • I have 8Gb on my server

  • I'm hosting 30 websites

  • php-fpm average process size around 40mb

  • php-fpm max process size around 80mb

  • I want to allocate 5Gb max of my memory to php-fpm processes

If I apply this :



pm.max_children = Total RAM dedicated to the web server / Max child process size



So in my case :



pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64



But If I add pm.max_children = 64 on each php-fpm website conf files, this means every website can use 64 children process X size of 1 process (ex 40mb) = 2560Mb



And If we imagine, at the same time, all the 30 website have reach the pm.max_children value, we will have : 2560Mb (max per website) x 30 websites = 76 800 Mb



Am I correct?



Si yes, this means when many websites are hosted on the same server, we have to divide the result of the calcul pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 by the number of websites hosted (here 30).



So 64 / 30 = 2,1 and pm.max_children = 2 per website



Is it correct or not?



Thanks










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  • Optimize for the average case, and not maxima or peaks until they arise.
    – mario
    Nov 9 at 14:38










  • Ok but even If i optimise for the average case am I wrong or not with the calculation method? I mean regarding my last post, pm.max_children should be 64 or 2 ?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 9 at 14:57










  • so good calculation is pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 so pm.max_children =64 for each website or pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 and 64 / 30 (number of websites) = 2 so pm.max_children =2 for each website ?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 9 at 14:58










  • I have opened a specific ticket with all infos and replies : serverfault.com/questions/939436/…
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 10 at 9:16











  • nobody has infos or can confirm?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 11 at 9:42














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I have done some investigations and I have found this to calculate and adjust pm.max_children value



https://myshell.co.uk/blog/2012/07/adjusting-child-processes-for-php-fpm-nginx/



but for example :



  • I have 8Gb on my server

  • I'm hosting 30 websites

  • php-fpm average process size around 40mb

  • php-fpm max process size around 80mb

  • I want to allocate 5Gb max of my memory to php-fpm processes

If I apply this :



pm.max_children = Total RAM dedicated to the web server / Max child process size



So in my case :



pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64



But If I add pm.max_children = 64 on each php-fpm website conf files, this means every website can use 64 children process X size of 1 process (ex 40mb) = 2560Mb



And If we imagine, at the same time, all the 30 website have reach the pm.max_children value, we will have : 2560Mb (max per website) x 30 websites = 76 800 Mb



Am I correct?



Si yes, this means when many websites are hosted on the same server, we have to divide the result of the calcul pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 by the number of websites hosted (here 30).



So 64 / 30 = 2,1 and pm.max_children = 2 per website



Is it correct or not?



Thanks










share|improve this question























  • Optimize for the average case, and not maxima or peaks until they arise.
    – mario
    Nov 9 at 14:38










  • Ok but even If i optimise for the average case am I wrong or not with the calculation method? I mean regarding my last post, pm.max_children should be 64 or 2 ?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 9 at 14:57










  • so good calculation is pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 so pm.max_children =64 for each website or pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 and 64 / 30 (number of websites) = 2 so pm.max_children =2 for each website ?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 9 at 14:58










  • I have opened a specific ticket with all infos and replies : serverfault.com/questions/939436/…
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 10 at 9:16











  • nobody has infos or can confirm?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 11 at 9:42












up vote
0
down vote

favorite









up vote
0
down vote

favorite











I have done some investigations and I have found this to calculate and adjust pm.max_children value



https://myshell.co.uk/blog/2012/07/adjusting-child-processes-for-php-fpm-nginx/



but for example :



  • I have 8Gb on my server

  • I'm hosting 30 websites

  • php-fpm average process size around 40mb

  • php-fpm max process size around 80mb

  • I want to allocate 5Gb max of my memory to php-fpm processes

If I apply this :



pm.max_children = Total RAM dedicated to the web server / Max child process size



So in my case :



pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64



But If I add pm.max_children = 64 on each php-fpm website conf files, this means every website can use 64 children process X size of 1 process (ex 40mb) = 2560Mb



And If we imagine, at the same time, all the 30 website have reach the pm.max_children value, we will have : 2560Mb (max per website) x 30 websites = 76 800 Mb



Am I correct?



Si yes, this means when many websites are hosted on the same server, we have to divide the result of the calcul pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 by the number of websites hosted (here 30).



So 64 / 30 = 2,1 and pm.max_children = 2 per website



Is it correct or not?



Thanks










share|improve this question















I have done some investigations and I have found this to calculate and adjust pm.max_children value



https://myshell.co.uk/blog/2012/07/adjusting-child-processes-for-php-fpm-nginx/



but for example :



  • I have 8Gb on my server

  • I'm hosting 30 websites

  • php-fpm average process size around 40mb

  • php-fpm max process size around 80mb

  • I want to allocate 5Gb max of my memory to php-fpm processes

If I apply this :



pm.max_children = Total RAM dedicated to the web server / Max child process size



So in my case :



pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64



But If I add pm.max_children = 64 on each php-fpm website conf files, this means every website can use 64 children process X size of 1 process (ex 40mb) = 2560Mb



And If we imagine, at the same time, all the 30 website have reach the pm.max_children value, we will have : 2560Mb (max per website) x 30 websites = 76 800 Mb



Am I correct?



Si yes, this means when many websites are hosted on the same server, we have to divide the result of the calcul pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 by the number of websites hosted (here 30).



So 64 / 30 = 2,1 and pm.max_children = 2 per website



Is it correct or not?



Thanks







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  • Optimize for the average case, and not maxima or peaks until they arise.
    – mario
    Nov 9 at 14:38










  • Ok but even If i optimise for the average case am I wrong or not with the calculation method? I mean regarding my last post, pm.max_children should be 64 or 2 ?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 9 at 14:57










  • so good calculation is pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 so pm.max_children =64 for each website or pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 and 64 / 30 (number of websites) = 2 so pm.max_children =2 for each website ?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 9 at 14:58










  • I have opened a specific ticket with all infos and replies : serverfault.com/questions/939436/…
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 10 at 9:16











  • nobody has infos or can confirm?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 11 at 9:42
















  • Optimize for the average case, and not maxima or peaks until they arise.
    – mario
    Nov 9 at 14:38










  • Ok but even If i optimise for the average case am I wrong or not with the calculation method? I mean regarding my last post, pm.max_children should be 64 or 2 ?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 9 at 14:57










  • so good calculation is pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 so pm.max_children =64 for each website or pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 and 64 / 30 (number of websites) = 2 so pm.max_children =2 for each website ?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 9 at 14:58










  • I have opened a specific ticket with all infos and replies : serverfault.com/questions/939436/…
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 10 at 9:16











  • nobody has infos or can confirm?
    – TooNetCreation
    Nov 11 at 9:42















Optimize for the average case, and not maxima or peaks until they arise.
– mario
Nov 9 at 14:38




Optimize for the average case, and not maxima or peaks until they arise.
– mario
Nov 9 at 14:38












Ok but even If i optimise for the average case am I wrong or not with the calculation method? I mean regarding my last post, pm.max_children should be 64 or 2 ?
– TooNetCreation
Nov 9 at 14:57




Ok but even If i optimise for the average case am I wrong or not with the calculation method? I mean regarding my last post, pm.max_children should be 64 or 2 ?
– TooNetCreation
Nov 9 at 14:57












so good calculation is pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 so pm.max_children =64 for each website or pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 and 64 / 30 (number of websites) = 2 so pm.max_children =2 for each website ?
– TooNetCreation
Nov 9 at 14:58




so good calculation is pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 so pm.max_children =64 for each website or pm.max_children = 5120 / 80 = 64 and 64 / 30 (number of websites) = 2 so pm.max_children =2 for each website ?
– TooNetCreation
Nov 9 at 14:58












I have opened a specific ticket with all infos and replies : serverfault.com/questions/939436/…
– TooNetCreation
Nov 10 at 9:16





I have opened a specific ticket with all infos and replies : serverfault.com/questions/939436/…
– TooNetCreation
Nov 10 at 9:16













nobody has infos or can confirm?
– TooNetCreation
Nov 11 at 9:42




nobody has infos or can confirm?
– TooNetCreation
Nov 11 at 9:42

















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