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I am an Indian Citizan holding a UK tourist visa (short stay, multi entry) issued from Singapore. I wish to travel to Dublin . Would I be entitled to enter Ireland.
Note: I will first enter U.K.
My visa doesn't have stamp of BIVS @british Irish visa scheme



Appreciate your response If anyone had experienced similar situation.










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  • You're eligible for the visa waiver program as you're an Indian citizen.
    – nikhil
    Jul 27 '17 at 3:44










  • Thanks Nikhil, I checked on the website and it is very vaguely described there, it also says that visa should be issued from home country. Are you telling me with your personal experience?
    – Travelfreak
    Jul 27 '17 at 3:47











  • Unfortunately you need the BIVS endorsement to make use of the arrangement.
    – Rodney Hawkins
    Jul 27 '17 at 4:39










  • @Hawkins How can I get that done .. is there any online option.
    – Travelfreak
    Jul 27 '17 at 5:09










  • You need a BIVS amendment or a full ROI visa. But given it's the CTA you may be able to get away with it for a brief visit. It depends upon your appetite for risk and your outlook as to playing everything strictly by the book.
    – Gayot Fow
    Jul 27 '17 at 6:54














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I am an Indian Citizan holding a UK tourist visa (short stay, multi entry) issued from Singapore. I wish to travel to Dublin . Would I be entitled to enter Ireland.
Note: I will first enter U.K.
My visa doesn't have stamp of BIVS @british Irish visa scheme



Appreciate your response If anyone had experienced similar situation.










share|improve this question





















  • You're eligible for the visa waiver program as you're an Indian citizen.
    – nikhil
    Jul 27 '17 at 3:44










  • Thanks Nikhil, I checked on the website and it is very vaguely described there, it also says that visa should be issued from home country. Are you telling me with your personal experience?
    – Travelfreak
    Jul 27 '17 at 3:47











  • Unfortunately you need the BIVS endorsement to make use of the arrangement.
    – Rodney Hawkins
    Jul 27 '17 at 4:39










  • @Hawkins How can I get that done .. is there any online option.
    – Travelfreak
    Jul 27 '17 at 5:09










  • You need a BIVS amendment or a full ROI visa. But given it's the CTA you may be able to get away with it for a brief visit. It depends upon your appetite for risk and your outlook as to playing everything strictly by the book.
    – Gayot Fow
    Jul 27 '17 at 6:54












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I am an Indian Citizan holding a UK tourist visa (short stay, multi entry) issued from Singapore. I wish to travel to Dublin . Would I be entitled to enter Ireland.
Note: I will first enter U.K.
My visa doesn't have stamp of BIVS @british Irish visa scheme



Appreciate your response If anyone had experienced similar situation.










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I am an Indian Citizan holding a UK tourist visa (short stay, multi entry) issued from Singapore. I wish to travel to Dublin . Would I be entitled to enter Ireland.
Note: I will first enter U.K.
My visa doesn't have stamp of BIVS @british Irish visa scheme



Appreciate your response If anyone had experienced similar situation.







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  • You're eligible for the visa waiver program as you're an Indian citizen.
    – nikhil
    Jul 27 '17 at 3:44










  • Thanks Nikhil, I checked on the website and it is very vaguely described there, it also says that visa should be issued from home country. Are you telling me with your personal experience?
    – Travelfreak
    Jul 27 '17 at 3:47











  • Unfortunately you need the BIVS endorsement to make use of the arrangement.
    – Rodney Hawkins
    Jul 27 '17 at 4:39










  • @Hawkins How can I get that done .. is there any online option.
    – Travelfreak
    Jul 27 '17 at 5:09










  • You need a BIVS amendment or a full ROI visa. But given it's the CTA you may be able to get away with it for a brief visit. It depends upon your appetite for risk and your outlook as to playing everything strictly by the book.
    – Gayot Fow
    Jul 27 '17 at 6:54
















  • You're eligible for the visa waiver program as you're an Indian citizen.
    – nikhil
    Jul 27 '17 at 3:44










  • Thanks Nikhil, I checked on the website and it is very vaguely described there, it also says that visa should be issued from home country. Are you telling me with your personal experience?
    – Travelfreak
    Jul 27 '17 at 3:47











  • Unfortunately you need the BIVS endorsement to make use of the arrangement.
    – Rodney Hawkins
    Jul 27 '17 at 4:39










  • @Hawkins How can I get that done .. is there any online option.
    – Travelfreak
    Jul 27 '17 at 5:09










  • You need a BIVS amendment or a full ROI visa. But given it's the CTA you may be able to get away with it for a brief visit. It depends upon your appetite for risk and your outlook as to playing everything strictly by the book.
    – Gayot Fow
    Jul 27 '17 at 6:54















You're eligible for the visa waiver program as you're an Indian citizen.
– nikhil
Jul 27 '17 at 3:44




You're eligible for the visa waiver program as you're an Indian citizen.
– nikhil
Jul 27 '17 at 3:44












Thanks Nikhil, I checked on the website and it is very vaguely described there, it also says that visa should be issued from home country. Are you telling me with your personal experience?
– Travelfreak
Jul 27 '17 at 3:47





Thanks Nikhil, I checked on the website and it is very vaguely described there, it also says that visa should be issued from home country. Are you telling me with your personal experience?
– Travelfreak
Jul 27 '17 at 3:47













Unfortunately you need the BIVS endorsement to make use of the arrangement.
– Rodney Hawkins
Jul 27 '17 at 4:39




Unfortunately you need the BIVS endorsement to make use of the arrangement.
– Rodney Hawkins
Jul 27 '17 at 4:39












@Hawkins How can I get that done .. is there any online option.
– Travelfreak
Jul 27 '17 at 5:09




@Hawkins How can I get that done .. is there any online option.
– Travelfreak
Jul 27 '17 at 5:09












You need a BIVS amendment or a full ROI visa. But given it's the CTA you may be able to get away with it for a brief visit. It depends upon your appetite for risk and your outlook as to playing everything strictly by the book.
– Gayot Fow
Jul 27 '17 at 6:54




You need a BIVS amendment or a full ROI visa. But given it's the CTA you may be able to get away with it for a brief visit. It depends upon your appetite for risk and your outlook as to playing everything strictly by the book.
– Gayot Fow
Jul 27 '17 at 6:54










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First off let me start by saying that I'm not providing any legal advice. When in doubt, my mantra would be to follow @GayotFow's advice.



I've done this unknowingly in the past, without any consequence(at least not any that I know of). Based on my reading and understanding of the visa waiver program, this is permissible.




Travel to Ireland using a UK visa



You may be able to visit Ireland without applying for a separate Irish
visa, if you have an eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa and you are
a citizen of an approved country. Read how this works under the Short
Stay Visa Waiver Programme. Travel between Ireland & UK using a single
UK-Irish visa



You can visit Ireland and the United Kingdom using a single visa
issued by either country, if you are a Chinese or Indian citizen. For
instance: You can visit the UK (including Northern Ireland) without
applying for a UK visa, if you have an Irish Visit (Tourist) Visa. You
can visit Ireland without applying for an Irish visa, if you have an
eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa. You can travel an unlimited
number of times between each country with either visa, for as long as
it is valid. Read how this works under the British-Irish Visa Scheme.




You're eligible for both the BIVS and the Short Stay Program.



Here's the excerpt from timatic -




The following are exempt from holding a visa:



Nationals of India with a valid C visa issued by the United Kingdom if
they have first entered the United Kingdom and been granted a stay of
180 days in the United Kingdom. They are visa exempt for a maximum
stay of 90 days in Ireland (Rep.) or until the end of the period of
stay granted in the United Kingdom, whichever is shorter.



Passengers arriving in the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland,
and traveling to Ireland (Rep.), the visa waiver programme will apply
and only a visa issued by the United Kingdom will be required. The
visit to Ireland (Rep.) must be within the stay granted within the
United Kingdom. Passengers are permitted to travel to a third country
before traveling to Ireland (Rep.) if the visa issued by United
Kingdom is still valid. Furthermore, re-entry into Ireland (Rep.) from
a third country is permitted if the visa issued by the United Kingdom
is still valid and period of the stay granted in the United Kingdom is
still valid. Passengers with a long term visa must visit Ireland
(Rep.) within a period of the current stay granted in the United
Kingdom. Passengers arriving first in Ireland (Rep.) and traveling to
the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland, and then returning to
Ireland (Rep.) will requre separate visas issued by Ireland (Rep.) and
the United Kingdom. However the visa issued by the United Kingdom will
be accepted under the visa waiver programme for the return journey to
Ireland (Rep.).







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    First off let me start by saying that I'm not providing any legal advice. When in doubt, my mantra would be to follow @GayotFow's advice.



    I've done this unknowingly in the past, without any consequence(at least not any that I know of). Based on my reading and understanding of the visa waiver program, this is permissible.




    Travel to Ireland using a UK visa



    You may be able to visit Ireland without applying for a separate Irish
    visa, if you have an eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa and you are
    a citizen of an approved country. Read how this works under the Short
    Stay Visa Waiver Programme. Travel between Ireland & UK using a single
    UK-Irish visa



    You can visit Ireland and the United Kingdom using a single visa
    issued by either country, if you are a Chinese or Indian citizen. For
    instance: You can visit the UK (including Northern Ireland) without
    applying for a UK visa, if you have an Irish Visit (Tourist) Visa. You
    can visit Ireland without applying for an Irish visa, if you have an
    eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa. You can travel an unlimited
    number of times between each country with either visa, for as long as
    it is valid. Read how this works under the British-Irish Visa Scheme.




    You're eligible for both the BIVS and the Short Stay Program.



    Here's the excerpt from timatic -




    The following are exempt from holding a visa:



    Nationals of India with a valid C visa issued by the United Kingdom if
    they have first entered the United Kingdom and been granted a stay of
    180 days in the United Kingdom. They are visa exempt for a maximum
    stay of 90 days in Ireland (Rep.) or until the end of the period of
    stay granted in the United Kingdom, whichever is shorter.



    Passengers arriving in the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland,
    and traveling to Ireland (Rep.), the visa waiver programme will apply
    and only a visa issued by the United Kingdom will be required. The
    visit to Ireland (Rep.) must be within the stay granted within the
    United Kingdom. Passengers are permitted to travel to a third country
    before traveling to Ireland (Rep.) if the visa issued by United
    Kingdom is still valid. Furthermore, re-entry into Ireland (Rep.) from
    a third country is permitted if the visa issued by the United Kingdom
    is still valid and period of the stay granted in the United Kingdom is
    still valid. Passengers with a long term visa must visit Ireland
    (Rep.) within a period of the current stay granted in the United
    Kingdom. Passengers arriving first in Ireland (Rep.) and traveling to
    the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland, and then returning to
    Ireland (Rep.) will requre separate visas issued by Ireland (Rep.) and
    the United Kingdom. However the visa issued by the United Kingdom will
    be accepted under the visa waiver programme for the return journey to
    Ireland (Rep.).







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      up vote
      1
      down vote













      First off let me start by saying that I'm not providing any legal advice. When in doubt, my mantra would be to follow @GayotFow's advice.



      I've done this unknowingly in the past, without any consequence(at least not any that I know of). Based on my reading and understanding of the visa waiver program, this is permissible.




      Travel to Ireland using a UK visa



      You may be able to visit Ireland without applying for a separate Irish
      visa, if you have an eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa and you are
      a citizen of an approved country. Read how this works under the Short
      Stay Visa Waiver Programme. Travel between Ireland & UK using a single
      UK-Irish visa



      You can visit Ireland and the United Kingdom using a single visa
      issued by either country, if you are a Chinese or Indian citizen. For
      instance: You can visit the UK (including Northern Ireland) without
      applying for a UK visa, if you have an Irish Visit (Tourist) Visa. You
      can visit Ireland without applying for an Irish visa, if you have an
      eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa. You can travel an unlimited
      number of times between each country with either visa, for as long as
      it is valid. Read how this works under the British-Irish Visa Scheme.




      You're eligible for both the BIVS and the Short Stay Program.



      Here's the excerpt from timatic -




      The following are exempt from holding a visa:



      Nationals of India with a valid C visa issued by the United Kingdom if
      they have first entered the United Kingdom and been granted a stay of
      180 days in the United Kingdom. They are visa exempt for a maximum
      stay of 90 days in Ireland (Rep.) or until the end of the period of
      stay granted in the United Kingdom, whichever is shorter.



      Passengers arriving in the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland,
      and traveling to Ireland (Rep.), the visa waiver programme will apply
      and only a visa issued by the United Kingdom will be required. The
      visit to Ireland (Rep.) must be within the stay granted within the
      United Kingdom. Passengers are permitted to travel to a third country
      before traveling to Ireland (Rep.) if the visa issued by United
      Kingdom is still valid. Furthermore, re-entry into Ireland (Rep.) from
      a third country is permitted if the visa issued by the United Kingdom
      is still valid and period of the stay granted in the United Kingdom is
      still valid. Passengers with a long term visa must visit Ireland
      (Rep.) within a period of the current stay granted in the United
      Kingdom. Passengers arriving first in Ireland (Rep.) and traveling to
      the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland, and then returning to
      Ireland (Rep.) will requre separate visas issued by Ireland (Rep.) and
      the United Kingdom. However the visa issued by the United Kingdom will
      be accepted under the visa waiver programme for the return journey to
      Ireland (Rep.).







      share|improve this answer
























        up vote
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        down vote










        up vote
        1
        down vote









        First off let me start by saying that I'm not providing any legal advice. When in doubt, my mantra would be to follow @GayotFow's advice.



        I've done this unknowingly in the past, without any consequence(at least not any that I know of). Based on my reading and understanding of the visa waiver program, this is permissible.




        Travel to Ireland using a UK visa



        You may be able to visit Ireland without applying for a separate Irish
        visa, if you have an eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa and you are
        a citizen of an approved country. Read how this works under the Short
        Stay Visa Waiver Programme. Travel between Ireland & UK using a single
        UK-Irish visa



        You can visit Ireland and the United Kingdom using a single visa
        issued by either country, if you are a Chinese or Indian citizen. For
        instance: You can visit the UK (including Northern Ireland) without
        applying for a UK visa, if you have an Irish Visit (Tourist) Visa. You
        can visit Ireland without applying for an Irish visa, if you have an
        eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa. You can travel an unlimited
        number of times between each country with either visa, for as long as
        it is valid. Read how this works under the British-Irish Visa Scheme.




        You're eligible for both the BIVS and the Short Stay Program.



        Here's the excerpt from timatic -




        The following are exempt from holding a visa:



        Nationals of India with a valid C visa issued by the United Kingdom if
        they have first entered the United Kingdom and been granted a stay of
        180 days in the United Kingdom. They are visa exempt for a maximum
        stay of 90 days in Ireland (Rep.) or until the end of the period of
        stay granted in the United Kingdom, whichever is shorter.



        Passengers arriving in the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland,
        and traveling to Ireland (Rep.), the visa waiver programme will apply
        and only a visa issued by the United Kingdom will be required. The
        visit to Ireland (Rep.) must be within the stay granted within the
        United Kingdom. Passengers are permitted to travel to a third country
        before traveling to Ireland (Rep.) if the visa issued by United
        Kingdom is still valid. Furthermore, re-entry into Ireland (Rep.) from
        a third country is permitted if the visa issued by the United Kingdom
        is still valid and period of the stay granted in the United Kingdom is
        still valid. Passengers with a long term visa must visit Ireland
        (Rep.) within a period of the current stay granted in the United
        Kingdom. Passengers arriving first in Ireland (Rep.) and traveling to
        the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland, and then returning to
        Ireland (Rep.) will requre separate visas issued by Ireland (Rep.) and
        the United Kingdom. However the visa issued by the United Kingdom will
        be accepted under the visa waiver programme for the return journey to
        Ireland (Rep.).







        share|improve this answer














        First off let me start by saying that I'm not providing any legal advice. When in doubt, my mantra would be to follow @GayotFow's advice.



        I've done this unknowingly in the past, without any consequence(at least not any that I know of). Based on my reading and understanding of the visa waiver program, this is permissible.




        Travel to Ireland using a UK visa



        You may be able to visit Ireland without applying for a separate Irish
        visa, if you have an eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa and you are
        a citizen of an approved country. Read how this works under the Short
        Stay Visa Waiver Programme. Travel between Ireland & UK using a single
        UK-Irish visa



        You can visit Ireland and the United Kingdom using a single visa
        issued by either country, if you are a Chinese or Indian citizen. For
        instance: You can visit the UK (including Northern Ireland) without
        applying for a UK visa, if you have an Irish Visit (Tourist) Visa. You
        can visit Ireland without applying for an Irish visa, if you have an
        eligible UK (short stay) visitor visa. You can travel an unlimited
        number of times between each country with either visa, for as long as
        it is valid. Read how this works under the British-Irish Visa Scheme.




        You're eligible for both the BIVS and the Short Stay Program.



        Here's the excerpt from timatic -




        The following are exempt from holding a visa:



        Nationals of India with a valid C visa issued by the United Kingdom if
        they have first entered the United Kingdom and been granted a stay of
        180 days in the United Kingdom. They are visa exempt for a maximum
        stay of 90 days in Ireland (Rep.) or until the end of the period of
        stay granted in the United Kingdom, whichever is shorter.



        Passengers arriving in the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland,
        and traveling to Ireland (Rep.), the visa waiver programme will apply
        and only a visa issued by the United Kingdom will be required. The
        visit to Ireland (Rep.) must be within the stay granted within the
        United Kingdom. Passengers are permitted to travel to a third country
        before traveling to Ireland (Rep.) if the visa issued by United
        Kingdom is still valid. Furthermore, re-entry into Ireland (Rep.) from
        a third country is permitted if the visa issued by the United Kingdom
        is still valid and period of the stay granted in the United Kingdom is
        still valid. Passengers with a long term visa must visit Ireland
        (Rep.) within a period of the current stay granted in the United
        Kingdom. Passengers arriving first in Ireland (Rep.) and traveling to
        the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland, and then returning to
        Ireland (Rep.) will requre separate visas issued by Ireland (Rep.) and
        the United Kingdom. However the visa issued by the United Kingdom will
        be accepted under the visa waiver programme for the return journey to
        Ireland (Rep.).








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