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When traveling Platzkart (3rd class) along the Trans-Siberian route, what are the maximum dimensions for luggage? Is it possible to have additional luggage carried, e.g. in a separate railcar?



The last time I traveled Platzkart was in 2009, from Moscow to Minsk. I remember that there was space underneath the lower bunk, for the luggage of the two passengers sharing the bunk bed.

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    When traveling Platzkart (3rd class) along the Trans-Siberian route, what are the maximum dimensions for luggage? Is it possible to have additional luggage carried, e.g. in a separate railcar?



    The last time I traveled Platzkart was in 2009, from Moscow to Minsk. I remember that there was space underneath the lower bunk, for the luggage of the two passengers sharing the bunk bed.

    This time, I am contemplating taking an art installation with me.










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      When traveling Platzkart (3rd class) along the Trans-Siberian route, what are the maximum dimensions for luggage? Is it possible to have additional luggage carried, e.g. in a separate railcar?



      The last time I traveled Platzkart was in 2009, from Moscow to Minsk. I remember that there was space underneath the lower bunk, for the luggage of the two passengers sharing the bunk bed.

      This time, I am contemplating taking an art installation with me.










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      When traveling Platzkart (3rd class) along the Trans-Siberian route, what are the maximum dimensions for luggage? Is it possible to have additional luggage carried, e.g. in a separate railcar?



      The last time I traveled Platzkart was in 2009, from Moscow to Minsk. I remember that there was space underneath the lower bunk, for the luggage of the two passengers sharing the bunk bed.

      This time, I am contemplating taking an art installation with me.







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          In platzkart there are two places where you can put your luggage — below the lower bunk and on the "third" (luggage) bunk above the second bunk. There is no rule that luggage of both passengers should fit below the lower bunk; on contrary, there is a rule that the passenger travelling on the lower bunk has the priority to use the space below their bunk, and the passenger on the top bunk has the priority to use the luggage bunk (see here, in Russian).



          The luggage bunks are really spacious and you can fit rather big items there. It is quite common for tourists to put there their bicycles or canoes (disassembled, but still very bulky). It is even common, when a group of tourists occupy the whole compartment, to put bulky items across the carriage so that they span from one luggage bunk to another. (See this photo of several baidarkas (a two- or three-person canoe) lying on the third bunk.) I would estimate (from memory) the size of a single bunk as 180 x 60 centimeters, and the combined size of two bunks with space between them as 180x180 cm.



          The official regulations (see link above) say that each passanger's luggage should not exceed 36 kg in weights and 180 cm in summary dimensions, but this rule is never enforced as long as there is no conflicts between passengers themself, and tourists commonly carry much bigger items.



          As for separate luggage cars, from what I know, the common passenger trains do not contain them, but there are separate luggage trains. You can send your luggage on them, but they are very slow and you will have to pack your luggage very strongly, and not expect delicate handling.



          However, there are special rules for luggage transportation that say that for each passenger ticket you can carry up to three items of luggage not exceeding 180 cm in summary dimensions, and not exceeding 75 kg each and 200 kg total. It not quite clear though where they would transport it, and I have no experience with it.



          Also, there is a rule (see the first link above) that you can carry up to 50 kg more of luggage in standard carriage if you buy an additional ticket (a standard passenger ticket, apparently, though it's not quite clear).






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          Usually the luggage in platzkart should be that size it could be hidden under the sleeping place, @EugeneO is right. But there are some details you can use in your way. Let's take a look on the classic railcar from inside:



          enter image description here



          As you can see, there is additional place above the second level of the bunk beds. There is non-documented agreement, that a person from first level places one's luggage under the bunk bed, and a person from second level places one's luggage above both bunk bed (left upper corner of the photo).



          That area could contains a lot of things, usually some touristic stuff easily can be held there. I suggest you to use that place, as it's very handy for unusual sizes, and not so popular among passengers (and if you but tickets for upper place, it's all yours).






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            The official rules just say a maximum of 180cm as a sum of all dimensions, and 36kg (e.g see here in Russian, unfortunately can't find an official rzd.ru reference with a quick search, but all unofficial pages I'm finding are showing the same numbers).



            Obviously, the baggage must fit in the provided space. This thread quotes 120х40х50 dimensions for the compartment (in cm), but take it with a grain of salt.



            Also, see here - apparently on many long-distance trains you can also have a "checked luggage" service for an additional fee (never used it myself so can't comment on it further).






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              In platzkart there are two places where you can put your luggage — below the lower bunk and on the "third" (luggage) bunk above the second bunk. There is no rule that luggage of both passengers should fit below the lower bunk; on contrary, there is a rule that the passenger travelling on the lower bunk has the priority to use the space below their bunk, and the passenger on the top bunk has the priority to use the luggage bunk (see here, in Russian).



              The luggage bunks are really spacious and you can fit rather big items there. It is quite common for tourists to put there their bicycles or canoes (disassembled, but still very bulky). It is even common, when a group of tourists occupy the whole compartment, to put bulky items across the carriage so that they span from one luggage bunk to another. (See this photo of several baidarkas (a two- or three-person canoe) lying on the third bunk.) I would estimate (from memory) the size of a single bunk as 180 x 60 centimeters, and the combined size of two bunks with space between them as 180x180 cm.



              The official regulations (see link above) say that each passanger's luggage should not exceed 36 kg in weights and 180 cm in summary dimensions, but this rule is never enforced as long as there is no conflicts between passengers themself, and tourists commonly carry much bigger items.



              As for separate luggage cars, from what I know, the common passenger trains do not contain them, but there are separate luggage trains. You can send your luggage on them, but they are very slow and you will have to pack your luggage very strongly, and not expect delicate handling.



              However, there are special rules for luggage transportation that say that for each passenger ticket you can carry up to three items of luggage not exceeding 180 cm in summary dimensions, and not exceeding 75 kg each and 200 kg total. It not quite clear though where they would transport it, and I have no experience with it.



              Also, there is a rule (see the first link above) that you can carry up to 50 kg more of luggage in standard carriage if you buy an additional ticket (a standard passenger ticket, apparently, though it's not quite clear).






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              In platzkart there are two places where you can put your luggage — below the lower bunk and on the "third" (luggage) bunk above the second bunk. There is no rule that luggage of both passengers should fit below the lower bunk; on contrary, there is a rule that the passenger travelling on the lower bunk has the priority to use the space below their bunk, and the passenger on the top bunk has the priority to use the luggage bunk (see here, in Russian).



              The luggage bunks are really spacious and you can fit rather big items there. It is quite common for tourists to put there their bicycles or canoes (disassembled, but still very bulky). It is even common, when a group of tourists occupy the whole compartment, to put bulky items across the carriage so that they span from one luggage bunk to another. (See this photo of several baidarkas (a two- or three-person canoe) lying on the third bunk.) I would estimate (from memory) the size of a single bunk as 180 x 60 centimeters, and the combined size of two bunks with space between them as 180x180 cm.



              The official regulations (see link above) say that each passanger's luggage should not exceed 36 kg in weights and 180 cm in summary dimensions, but this rule is never enforced as long as there is no conflicts between passengers themself, and tourists commonly carry much bigger items.



              As for separate luggage cars, from what I know, the common passenger trains do not contain them, but there are separate luggage trains. You can send your luggage on them, but they are very slow and you will have to pack your luggage very strongly, and not expect delicate handling.



              However, there are special rules for luggage transportation that say that for each passenger ticket you can carry up to three items of luggage not exceeding 180 cm in summary dimensions, and not exceeding 75 kg each and 200 kg total. It not quite clear though where they would transport it, and I have no experience with it.



              Also, there is a rule (see the first link above) that you can carry up to 50 kg more of luggage in standard carriage if you buy an additional ticket (a standard passenger ticket, apparently, though it's not quite clear).






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              • usually no one checks the weight, and dimensions are being checked at a glance
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              In platzkart there are two places where you can put your luggage — below the lower bunk and on the "third" (luggage) bunk above the second bunk. There is no rule that luggage of both passengers should fit below the lower bunk; on contrary, there is a rule that the passenger travelling on the lower bunk has the priority to use the space below their bunk, and the passenger on the top bunk has the priority to use the luggage bunk (see here, in Russian).



              The luggage bunks are really spacious and you can fit rather big items there. It is quite common for tourists to put there their bicycles or canoes (disassembled, but still very bulky). It is even common, when a group of tourists occupy the whole compartment, to put bulky items across the carriage so that they span from one luggage bunk to another. (See this photo of several baidarkas (a two- or three-person canoe) lying on the third bunk.) I would estimate (from memory) the size of a single bunk as 180 x 60 centimeters, and the combined size of two bunks with space between them as 180x180 cm.



              The official regulations (see link above) say that each passanger's luggage should not exceed 36 kg in weights and 180 cm in summary dimensions, but this rule is never enforced as long as there is no conflicts between passengers themself, and tourists commonly carry much bigger items.



              As for separate luggage cars, from what I know, the common passenger trains do not contain them, but there are separate luggage trains. You can send your luggage on them, but they are very slow and you will have to pack your luggage very strongly, and not expect delicate handling.



              However, there are special rules for luggage transportation that say that for each passenger ticket you can carry up to three items of luggage not exceeding 180 cm in summary dimensions, and not exceeding 75 kg each and 200 kg total. It not quite clear though where they would transport it, and I have no experience with it.



              Also, there is a rule (see the first link above) that you can carry up to 50 kg more of luggage in standard carriage if you buy an additional ticket (a standard passenger ticket, apparently, though it's not quite clear).






              share|improve this answer














              In platzkart there are two places where you can put your luggage — below the lower bunk and on the "third" (luggage) bunk above the second bunk. There is no rule that luggage of both passengers should fit below the lower bunk; on contrary, there is a rule that the passenger travelling on the lower bunk has the priority to use the space below their bunk, and the passenger on the top bunk has the priority to use the luggage bunk (see here, in Russian).



              The luggage bunks are really spacious and you can fit rather big items there. It is quite common for tourists to put there their bicycles or canoes (disassembled, but still very bulky). It is even common, when a group of tourists occupy the whole compartment, to put bulky items across the carriage so that they span from one luggage bunk to another. (See this photo of several baidarkas (a two- or three-person canoe) lying on the third bunk.) I would estimate (from memory) the size of a single bunk as 180 x 60 centimeters, and the combined size of two bunks with space between them as 180x180 cm.



              The official regulations (see link above) say that each passanger's luggage should not exceed 36 kg in weights and 180 cm in summary dimensions, but this rule is never enforced as long as there is no conflicts between passengers themself, and tourists commonly carry much bigger items.



              As for separate luggage cars, from what I know, the common passenger trains do not contain them, but there are separate luggage trains. You can send your luggage on them, but they are very slow and you will have to pack your luggage very strongly, and not expect delicate handling.



              However, there are special rules for luggage transportation that say that for each passenger ticket you can carry up to three items of luggage not exceeding 180 cm in summary dimensions, and not exceeding 75 kg each and 200 kg total. It not quite clear though where they would transport it, and I have no experience with it.



              Also, there is a rule (see the first link above) that you can carry up to 50 kg more of luggage in standard carriage if you buy an additional ticket (a standard passenger ticket, apparently, though it's not quite clear).







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              • usually no one checks the weight, and dimensions are being checked at a glance
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              • usually no one checks the weight, and dimensions are being checked at a glance
                – VMAtm
                Jul 6 '17 at 14:23















              usually no one checks the weight, and dimensions are being checked at a glance
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              usually no one checks the weight, and dimensions are being checked at a glance
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              Usually the luggage in platzkart should be that size it could be hidden under the sleeping place, @EugeneO is right. But there are some details you can use in your way. Let's take a look on the classic railcar from inside:



              enter image description here



              As you can see, there is additional place above the second level of the bunk beds. There is non-documented agreement, that a person from first level places one's luggage under the bunk bed, and a person from second level places one's luggage above both bunk bed (left upper corner of the photo).



              That area could contains a lot of things, usually some touristic stuff easily can be held there. I suggest you to use that place, as it's very handy for unusual sizes, and not so popular among passengers (and if you but tickets for upper place, it's all yours).






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                Usually the luggage in platzkart should be that size it could be hidden under the sleeping place, @EugeneO is right. But there are some details you can use in your way. Let's take a look on the classic railcar from inside:



                enter image description here



                As you can see, there is additional place above the second level of the bunk beds. There is non-documented agreement, that a person from first level places one's luggage under the bunk bed, and a person from second level places one's luggage above both bunk bed (left upper corner of the photo).



                That area could contains a lot of things, usually some touristic stuff easily can be held there. I suggest you to use that place, as it's very handy for unusual sizes, and not so popular among passengers (and if you but tickets for upper place, it's all yours).






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                  Usually the luggage in platzkart should be that size it could be hidden under the sleeping place, @EugeneO is right. But there are some details you can use in your way. Let's take a look on the classic railcar from inside:



                  enter image description here



                  As you can see, there is additional place above the second level of the bunk beds. There is non-documented agreement, that a person from first level places one's luggage under the bunk bed, and a person from second level places one's luggage above both bunk bed (left upper corner of the photo).



                  That area could contains a lot of things, usually some touristic stuff easily can be held there. I suggest you to use that place, as it's very handy for unusual sizes, and not so popular among passengers (and if you but tickets for upper place, it's all yours).






                  share|improve this answer












                  Usually the luggage in platzkart should be that size it could be hidden under the sleeping place, @EugeneO is right. But there are some details you can use in your way. Let's take a look on the classic railcar from inside:



                  enter image description here



                  As you can see, there is additional place above the second level of the bunk beds. There is non-documented agreement, that a person from first level places one's luggage under the bunk bed, and a person from second level places one's luggage above both bunk bed (left upper corner of the photo).



                  That area could contains a lot of things, usually some touristic stuff easily can be held there. I suggest you to use that place, as it's very handy for unusual sizes, and not so popular among passengers (and if you but tickets for upper place, it's all yours).







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                      The official rules just say a maximum of 180cm as a sum of all dimensions, and 36kg (e.g see here in Russian, unfortunately can't find an official rzd.ru reference with a quick search, but all unofficial pages I'm finding are showing the same numbers).



                      Obviously, the baggage must fit in the provided space. This thread quotes 120х40х50 dimensions for the compartment (in cm), but take it with a grain of salt.



                      Also, see here - apparently on many long-distance trains you can also have a "checked luggage" service for an additional fee (never used it myself so can't comment on it further).






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                        The official rules just say a maximum of 180cm as a sum of all dimensions, and 36kg (e.g see here in Russian, unfortunately can't find an official rzd.ru reference with a quick search, but all unofficial pages I'm finding are showing the same numbers).



                        Obviously, the baggage must fit in the provided space. This thread quotes 120х40х50 dimensions for the compartment (in cm), but take it with a grain of salt.



                        Also, see here - apparently on many long-distance trains you can also have a "checked luggage" service for an additional fee (never used it myself so can't comment on it further).






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                          The official rules just say a maximum of 180cm as a sum of all dimensions, and 36kg (e.g see here in Russian, unfortunately can't find an official rzd.ru reference with a quick search, but all unofficial pages I'm finding are showing the same numbers).



                          Obviously, the baggage must fit in the provided space. This thread quotes 120х40х50 dimensions for the compartment (in cm), but take it with a grain of salt.



                          Also, see here - apparently on many long-distance trains you can also have a "checked luggage" service for an additional fee (never used it myself so can't comment on it further).






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                          The official rules just say a maximum of 180cm as a sum of all dimensions, and 36kg (e.g see here in Russian, unfortunately can't find an official rzd.ru reference with a quick search, but all unofficial pages I'm finding are showing the same numbers).



                          Obviously, the baggage must fit in the provided space. This thread quotes 120х40х50 dimensions for the compartment (in cm), but take it with a grain of salt.



                          Also, see here - apparently on many long-distance trains you can also have a "checked luggage" service for an additional fee (never used it myself so can't comment on it further).







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