I want to travel to the Netherlands as a non-EU national, but my Russian passport expires in 1 month
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Here is what I have.
I am 17 years old, and I have a Russian passport, currently living in greece.
I've been living in Greece (a European country) from the age of 2.
I also do have a residence permit that expires in 2021.
My mother doesn't have a European/Greek passport, but she is married to a Greek/European citizen.
I want to go to the Netherlands for 2 weeks, with a return ticket. However, 2 weeks after my return, my passport will expire. Basically, my passwort will NOT expire during my stay in the Netherlands, but it will be expire 1 month from today.
I have traveled to the Netherlands last summer, using my Russian passport and my "residence card of a family member of a Union citizen". I could go through the Greek and the Dutch checks with ease, and I did not need a visa.
Is it definite that I will be stopped from boarding the plane, since my passport expires in a month? (While it should not expire 3 months after my return, since I heard that's a rule).
Take in consideration that I cannot renew my Russian passport more than 2 months before it expires, and it takes 2 months to succesfully renew it. This basically makes it impossible for me to travel anywhere in the EU for this small gap of time. What if I was an adult with a job? It doesn't make sense.
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Here is what I have.
I am 17 years old, and I have a Russian passport, currently living in greece.
I've been living in Greece (a European country) from the age of 2.
I also do have a residence permit that expires in 2021.
My mother doesn't have a European/Greek passport, but she is married to a Greek/European citizen.
I want to go to the Netherlands for 2 weeks, with a return ticket. However, 2 weeks after my return, my passport will expire. Basically, my passwort will NOT expire during my stay in the Netherlands, but it will be expire 1 month from today.
I have traveled to the Netherlands last summer, using my Russian passport and my "residence card of a family member of a Union citizen". I could go through the Greek and the Dutch checks with ease, and I did not need a visa.
Is it definite that I will be stopped from boarding the plane, since my passport expires in a month? (While it should not expire 3 months after my return, since I heard that's a rule).
Take in consideration that I cannot renew my Russian passport more than 2 months before it expires, and it takes 2 months to succesfully renew it. This basically makes it impossible for me to travel anywhere in the EU for this small gap of time. What if I was an adult with a job? It doesn't make sense.
customs-and-immigration paperwork netherlands russian-citizens
asked Dec 18 '17 at 20:47
Simon Kozlov
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Russian citizens can have two international passports
– VMAtm
Dec 18 '17 at 23:43
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Most countries will also issue a new passport before the current one expires, usually canceling the first one in the process.
– phoog
Dec 19 '17 at 0:01
Formally, when traveling within the EU, you need both your passport and residence permit. But if you're flying directly from Greece to the Netherlands, most probably there will be no one to check. If checking-in online, with most airlines and in most airports, you won't even need to show any identification to anyone.
– ach
Dec 20 '17 at 1:44
Last time I traveled to the netherlands from greece, I had to show my passport/residence permit both in Greece and in the Netherlands
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 20 '17 at 14:28
@SimonKozlov You mean on arriving in the Netherlands? To whom? You just walk to the baggage hall and exit. Or do you mean when checking in for the flight? That makes more sense.
– Coke
Dec 21 '17 at 21:17
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up vote
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Here is what I have.
I am 17 years old, and I have a Russian passport, currently living in greece.
I've been living in Greece (a European country) from the age of 2.
I also do have a residence permit that expires in 2021.
My mother doesn't have a European/Greek passport, but she is married to a Greek/European citizen.
I want to go to the Netherlands for 2 weeks, with a return ticket. However, 2 weeks after my return, my passport will expire. Basically, my passwort will NOT expire during my stay in the Netherlands, but it will be expire 1 month from today.
I have traveled to the Netherlands last summer, using my Russian passport and my "residence card of a family member of a Union citizen". I could go through the Greek and the Dutch checks with ease, and I did not need a visa.
Is it definite that I will be stopped from boarding the plane, since my passport expires in a month? (While it should not expire 3 months after my return, since I heard that's a rule).
Take in consideration that I cannot renew my Russian passport more than 2 months before it expires, and it takes 2 months to succesfully renew it. This basically makes it impossible for me to travel anywhere in the EU for this small gap of time. What if I was an adult with a job? It doesn't make sense.
customs-and-immigration paperwork netherlands russian-citizens
asked Dec 18 '17 at 20:47
Simon Kozlov
261
Here is what I have.
I am 17 years old, and I have a Russian passport, currently living in greece.
I've been living in Greece (a European country) from the age of 2.
I also do have a residence permit that expires in 2021.
My mother doesn't have a European/Greek passport, but she is married to a Greek/European citizen.
I want to go to the Netherlands for 2 weeks, with a return ticket. However, 2 weeks after my return, my passport will expire. Basically, my passwort will NOT expire during my stay in the Netherlands, but it will be expire 1 month from today.
I have traveled to the Netherlands last summer, using my Russian passport and my "residence card of a family member of a Union citizen". I could go through the Greek and the Dutch checks with ease, and I did not need a visa.
Is it definite that I will be stopped from boarding the plane, since my passport expires in a month? (While it should not expire 3 months after my return, since I heard that's a rule).
Take in consideration that I cannot renew my Russian passport more than 2 months before it expires, and it takes 2 months to succesfully renew it. This basically makes it impossible for me to travel anywhere in the EU for this small gap of time. What if I was an adult with a job? It doesn't make sense.
customs-and-immigration paperwork netherlands russian-citizens
customs-and-immigration paperwork netherlands russian-citizens
asked Dec 18 '17 at 20:47
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asked Dec 18 '17 at 20:47
Simon Kozlov
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Russian citizens can have two international passports
– VMAtm
Dec 18 '17 at 23:43
1
Most countries will also issue a new passport before the current one expires, usually canceling the first one in the process.
– phoog
Dec 19 '17 at 0:01
Formally, when traveling within the EU, you need both your passport and residence permit. But if you're flying directly from Greece to the Netherlands, most probably there will be no one to check. If checking-in online, with most airlines and in most airports, you won't even need to show any identification to anyone.
– ach
Dec 20 '17 at 1:44
Last time I traveled to the netherlands from greece, I had to show my passport/residence permit both in Greece and in the Netherlands
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 20 '17 at 14:28
@SimonKozlov You mean on arriving in the Netherlands? To whom? You just walk to the baggage hall and exit. Or do you mean when checking in for the flight? That makes more sense.
– Coke
Dec 21 '17 at 21:17
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show 3 more comments
1
Russian citizens can have two international passports
– VMAtm
Dec 18 '17 at 23:43
1
Most countries will also issue a new passport before the current one expires, usually canceling the first one in the process.
– phoog
Dec 19 '17 at 0:01
Formally, when traveling within the EU, you need both your passport and residence permit. But if you're flying directly from Greece to the Netherlands, most probably there will be no one to check. If checking-in online, with most airlines and in most airports, you won't even need to show any identification to anyone.
– ach
Dec 20 '17 at 1:44
Last time I traveled to the netherlands from greece, I had to show my passport/residence permit both in Greece and in the Netherlands
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 20 '17 at 14:28
@SimonKozlov You mean on arriving in the Netherlands? To whom? You just walk to the baggage hall and exit. Or do you mean when checking in for the flight? That makes more sense.
– Coke
Dec 21 '17 at 21:17
1
1
Russian citizens can have two international passports
– VMAtm
Dec 18 '17 at 23:43
Russian citizens can have two international passports
– VMAtm
Dec 18 '17 at 23:43
1
1
Most countries will also issue a new passport before the current one expires, usually canceling the first one in the process.
– phoog
Dec 19 '17 at 0:01
Most countries will also issue a new passport before the current one expires, usually canceling the first one in the process.
– phoog
Dec 19 '17 at 0:01
Formally, when traveling within the EU, you need both your passport and residence permit. But if you're flying directly from Greece to the Netherlands, most probably there will be no one to check. If checking-in online, with most airlines and in most airports, you won't even need to show any identification to anyone.
– ach
Dec 20 '17 at 1:44
Formally, when traveling within the EU, you need both your passport and residence permit. But if you're flying directly from Greece to the Netherlands, most probably there will be no one to check. If checking-in online, with most airlines and in most airports, you won't even need to show any identification to anyone.
– ach
Dec 20 '17 at 1:44
Last time I traveled to the netherlands from greece, I had to show my passport/residence permit both in Greece and in the Netherlands
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 20 '17 at 14:28
Last time I traveled to the netherlands from greece, I had to show my passport/residence permit both in Greece and in the Netherlands
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 20 '17 at 14:28
@SimonKozlov You mean on arriving in the Netherlands? To whom? You just walk to the baggage hall and exit. Or do you mean when checking in for the flight? That makes more sense.
– Coke
Dec 21 '17 at 21:17
@SimonKozlov You mean on arriving in the Netherlands? To whom? You just walk to the baggage hall and exit. Or do you mean when checking in for the flight? That makes more sense.
– Coke
Dec 21 '17 at 21:17
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As stated in Timatic, the database used by airlines:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Greece must be valid on arrival.
A generalised search for the Netherlands gives:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry must be
valid for a minimum of 3 months beyond the period of
intended stay.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of the Netherlands must be valid on arrival.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City
(Holy See) and Schengen Member States must be
valid on arrival.
So your passport (and residence permit) only has to be valid on the day you enter the Netherlands.
The 3-month rule applies to non-EU/EFTA citizens not holding a residence permit in an EU/EFTA country.
Also, there are no border checks between Greece and the Netherlands, so unless flying on a low-cost carrier, you will usually not have to show your passport to check-in staff except if checking in luggage (to see that you're the ticket holder)
answered Dec 18 '17 at 20:50
Coke
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europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/… This doesn't specify anything like what you've mentioned, along with other similar sites. They've stated the same thing, without mentioning any exceptions.
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 18 '17 at 20:55
@SimonKozlov Well, that's the rules for non-residents. Timatic is based on information given by border authorities to IATA, and therefore should normally be trusted over other sources, which may not list complete information (as in this case) or may be outdated. Check-in staff relies on Timatic exclusively
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:57
1
@SimonKozlov Also, it is international practice that legal residents of a country won't be forced to have a passport valid beyond the date of entry to that country. Schengen is a single country for border purposes, thus your trip is effectively domestic, and all airlines except low-cost ones will treat it as such
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:59
1
@SimonKozlov For example here cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html Select Russia as the nationality, Greece in "Alien resident of" (important) and Netherlands as the destination. Like I said, what you see there is literally what check-in staff will see as well.
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 21:01
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@SimonKozlov Edited the answer, showing a generalised Timatic search. As you can see, the 3-month rule would apply if you didn't have a Greek residence Permit.
– Coke
Dec 20 '17 at 0:05
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As stated in Timatic, the database used by airlines:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Greece must be valid on arrival.
A generalised search for the Netherlands gives:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry must be
valid for a minimum of 3 months beyond the period of
intended stay.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of the Netherlands must be valid on arrival.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City
(Holy See) and Schengen Member States must be
valid on arrival.
So your passport (and residence permit) only has to be valid on the day you enter the Netherlands.
The 3-month rule applies to non-EU/EFTA citizens not holding a residence permit in an EU/EFTA country.
Also, there are no border checks between Greece and the Netherlands, so unless flying on a low-cost carrier, you will usually not have to show your passport to check-in staff except if checking in luggage (to see that you're the ticket holder)
answered Dec 18 '17 at 20:50
Coke
48.4k889215
europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/… This doesn't specify anything like what you've mentioned, along with other similar sites. They've stated the same thing, without mentioning any exceptions.
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 18 '17 at 20:55
@SimonKozlov Well, that's the rules for non-residents. Timatic is based on information given by border authorities to IATA, and therefore should normally be trusted over other sources, which may not list complete information (as in this case) or may be outdated. Check-in staff relies on Timatic exclusively
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:57
1
@SimonKozlov Also, it is international practice that legal residents of a country won't be forced to have a passport valid beyond the date of entry to that country. Schengen is a single country for border purposes, thus your trip is effectively domestic, and all airlines except low-cost ones will treat it as such
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:59
1
@SimonKozlov For example here cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html Select Russia as the nationality, Greece in "Alien resident of" (important) and Netherlands as the destination. Like I said, what you see there is literally what check-in staff will see as well.
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 21:01
1
@SimonKozlov Edited the answer, showing a generalised Timatic search. As you can see, the 3-month rule would apply if you didn't have a Greek residence Permit.
– Coke
Dec 20 '17 at 0:05
 |Â
show 8 more comments
up vote
4
down vote
As stated in Timatic, the database used by airlines:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Greece must be valid on arrival.
A generalised search for the Netherlands gives:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry must be
valid for a minimum of 3 months beyond the period of
intended stay.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of the Netherlands must be valid on arrival.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City
(Holy See) and Schengen Member States must be
valid on arrival.
So your passport (and residence permit) only has to be valid on the day you enter the Netherlands.
The 3-month rule applies to non-EU/EFTA citizens not holding a residence permit in an EU/EFTA country.
Also, there are no border checks between Greece and the Netherlands, so unless flying on a low-cost carrier, you will usually not have to show your passport to check-in staff except if checking in luggage (to see that you're the ticket holder)
answered Dec 18 '17 at 20:50
Coke
48.4k889215
europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/… This doesn't specify anything like what you've mentioned, along with other similar sites. They've stated the same thing, without mentioning any exceptions.
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 18 '17 at 20:55
@SimonKozlov Well, that's the rules for non-residents. Timatic is based on information given by border authorities to IATA, and therefore should normally be trusted over other sources, which may not list complete information (as in this case) or may be outdated. Check-in staff relies on Timatic exclusively
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:57
1
@SimonKozlov Also, it is international practice that legal residents of a country won't be forced to have a passport valid beyond the date of entry to that country. Schengen is a single country for border purposes, thus your trip is effectively domestic, and all airlines except low-cost ones will treat it as such
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:59
1
@SimonKozlov For example here cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html Select Russia as the nationality, Greece in "Alien resident of" (important) and Netherlands as the destination. Like I said, what you see there is literally what check-in staff will see as well.
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 21:01
1
@SimonKozlov Edited the answer, showing a generalised Timatic search. As you can see, the 3-month rule would apply if you didn't have a Greek residence Permit.
– Coke
Dec 20 '17 at 0:05
 |Â
show 8 more comments
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
As stated in Timatic, the database used by airlines:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Greece must be valid on arrival.
A generalised search for the Netherlands gives:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry must be
valid for a minimum of 3 months beyond the period of
intended stay.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of the Netherlands must be valid on arrival.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City
(Holy See) and Schengen Member States must be
valid on arrival.
So your passport (and residence permit) only has to be valid on the day you enter the Netherlands.
The 3-month rule applies to non-EU/EFTA citizens not holding a residence permit in an EU/EFTA country.
Also, there are no border checks between Greece and the Netherlands, so unless flying on a low-cost carrier, you will usually not have to show your passport to check-in staff except if checking in luggage (to see that you're the ticket holder)
answered Dec 18 '17 at 20:50
Coke
48.4k889215
As stated in Timatic, the database used by airlines:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Greece must be valid on arrival.
A generalised search for the Netherlands gives:
Passports and other documents accepted for entry must be
valid for a minimum of 3 months beyond the period of
intended stay.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
nationals of the Netherlands must be valid on arrival.
- Passports and other documents accepted for entry issued to
residents of Andorra, Monaco, San Marino, Vatican City
(Holy See) and Schengen Member States must be
valid on arrival.
So your passport (and residence permit) only has to be valid on the day you enter the Netherlands.
The 3-month rule applies to non-EU/EFTA citizens not holding a residence permit in an EU/EFTA country.
Also, there are no border checks between Greece and the Netherlands, so unless flying on a low-cost carrier, you will usually not have to show your passport to check-in staff except if checking in luggage (to see that you're the ticket holder)
answered Dec 18 '17 at 20:50
Coke
48.4k889215
edited Dec 20 '17 at 0:04
answered Dec 18 '17 at 20:50
Coke
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answered Dec 18 '17 at 20:50
Coke
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answered Dec 18 '17 at 20:50
Coke
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europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/… This doesn't specify anything like what you've mentioned, along with other similar sites. They've stated the same thing, without mentioning any exceptions.
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 18 '17 at 20:55
@SimonKozlov Well, that's the rules for non-residents. Timatic is based on information given by border authorities to IATA, and therefore should normally be trusted over other sources, which may not list complete information (as in this case) or may be outdated. Check-in staff relies on Timatic exclusively
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:57
1
@SimonKozlov Also, it is international practice that legal residents of a country won't be forced to have a passport valid beyond the date of entry to that country. Schengen is a single country for border purposes, thus your trip is effectively domestic, and all airlines except low-cost ones will treat it as such
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:59
1
@SimonKozlov For example here cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html Select Russia as the nationality, Greece in "Alien resident of" (important) and Netherlands as the destination. Like I said, what you see there is literally what check-in staff will see as well.
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 21:01
1
@SimonKozlov Edited the answer, showing a generalised Timatic search. As you can see, the 3-month rule would apply if you didn't have a Greek residence Permit.
– Coke
Dec 20 '17 at 0:05
 |Â
show 8 more comments
europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/… This doesn't specify anything like what you've mentioned, along with other similar sites. They've stated the same thing, without mentioning any exceptions.
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 18 '17 at 20:55
@SimonKozlov Well, that's the rules for non-residents. Timatic is based on information given by border authorities to IATA, and therefore should normally be trusted over other sources, which may not list complete information (as in this case) or may be outdated. Check-in staff relies on Timatic exclusively
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:57
1
@SimonKozlov Also, it is international practice that legal residents of a country won't be forced to have a passport valid beyond the date of entry to that country. Schengen is a single country for border purposes, thus your trip is effectively domestic, and all airlines except low-cost ones will treat it as such
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:59
1
@SimonKozlov For example here cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html Select Russia as the nationality, Greece in "Alien resident of" (important) and Netherlands as the destination. Like I said, what you see there is literally what check-in staff will see as well.
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 21:01
1
@SimonKozlov Edited the answer, showing a generalised Timatic search. As you can see, the 3-month rule would apply if you didn't have a Greek residence Permit.
– Coke
Dec 20 '17 at 0:05
europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/… This doesn't specify anything like what you've mentioned, along with other similar sites. They've stated the same thing, without mentioning any exceptions.
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 18 '17 at 20:55
europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/travel/entry-exit/… This doesn't specify anything like what you've mentioned, along with other similar sites. They've stated the same thing, without mentioning any exceptions.
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 18 '17 at 20:55
@SimonKozlov Well, that's the rules for non-residents. Timatic is based on information given by border authorities to IATA, and therefore should normally be trusted over other sources, which may not list complete information (as in this case) or may be outdated. Check-in staff relies on Timatic exclusively
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:57
@SimonKozlov Well, that's the rules for non-residents. Timatic is based on information given by border authorities to IATA, and therefore should normally be trusted over other sources, which may not list complete information (as in this case) or may be outdated. Check-in staff relies on Timatic exclusively
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:57
1
1
@SimonKozlov Also, it is international practice that legal residents of a country won't be forced to have a passport valid beyond the date of entry to that country. Schengen is a single country for border purposes, thus your trip is effectively domestic, and all airlines except low-cost ones will treat it as such
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:59
@SimonKozlov Also, it is international practice that legal residents of a country won't be forced to have a passport valid beyond the date of entry to that country. Schengen is a single country for border purposes, thus your trip is effectively domestic, and all airlines except low-cost ones will treat it as such
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 20:59
1
1
@SimonKozlov For example here cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html Select Russia as the nationality, Greece in "Alien resident of" (important) and Netherlands as the destination. Like I said, what you see there is literally what check-in staff will see as well.
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 21:01
@SimonKozlov For example here cms.olympicair.com/timatic/webdocsI/spdbmainv.html Select Russia as the nationality, Greece in "Alien resident of" (important) and Netherlands as the destination. Like I said, what you see there is literally what check-in staff will see as well.
– Coke
Dec 18 '17 at 21:01
1
1
@SimonKozlov Edited the answer, showing a generalised Timatic search. As you can see, the 3-month rule would apply if you didn't have a Greek residence Permit.
– Coke
Dec 20 '17 at 0:05
@SimonKozlov Edited the answer, showing a generalised Timatic search. As you can see, the 3-month rule would apply if you didn't have a Greek residence Permit.
– Coke
Dec 20 '17 at 0:05
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Russian citizens can have two international passports
– VMAtm
Dec 18 '17 at 23:43
1
Most countries will also issue a new passport before the current one expires, usually canceling the first one in the process.
– phoog
Dec 19 '17 at 0:01
Formally, when traveling within the EU, you need both your passport and residence permit. But if you're flying directly from Greece to the Netherlands, most probably there will be no one to check. If checking-in online, with most airlines and in most airports, you won't even need to show any identification to anyone.
– ach
Dec 20 '17 at 1:44
Last time I traveled to the netherlands from greece, I had to show my passport/residence permit both in Greece and in the Netherlands
– Simon Kozlov
Dec 20 '17 at 14:28
@SimonKozlov You mean on arriving in the Netherlands? To whom? You just walk to the baggage hall and exit. Or do you mean when checking in for the flight? That makes more sense.
– Coke
Dec 21 '17 at 21:17