What are the limitations of a ScotRail Off-Peak Day Ticket?



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I have bought an Off-peak Day Ticket from Edinburgh to Helensburgh and I was wondering if I can stop in Glasgow and then take another train from Glasgow to Helensburgh. Since it is a day ticket I don't see any limitation of number of travels but I don't know if I can only use that ticket only in the designated points.










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      I have bought an Off-peak Day Ticket from Edinburgh to Helensburgh and I was wondering if I can stop in Glasgow and then take another train from Glasgow to Helensburgh. Since it is a day ticket I don't see any limitation of number of travels but I don't know if I can only use that ticket only in the designated points.










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      I have bought an Off-peak Day Ticket from Edinburgh to Helensburgh and I was wondering if I can stop in Glasgow and then take another train from Glasgow to Helensburgh. Since it is a day ticket I don't see any limitation of number of travels but I don't know if I can only use that ticket only in the designated points.







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          TLDR: Yes you can do this, you must make sure not to travel on peak trains for the whole of your journey. For a more detailed explanation of why and with instructions to determine it for other journeys see below:




          The term you're looking for here is a break of journey. The national rail enquires websites states about these:




          Break of journey is allowed on the outward portion of Off-Peak tickets unless otherwise indicated by a restriction shown against the ticket's validity code and in all cases on the return portion of Off-Peak return tickets.
          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          source: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46590.aspx



          So in general you can break your journey, but lets quickly deal with the ticket restrictions section. Here is an example of a ticket with additional restrictions:
          https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5598/15280434598_97601ddd83_o.jpg



          This ticket has a FE restriction code (look in the lower right hand corner, by the text "See restrictions". Now you can go to http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/YOURCODE (so: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/FE) and read the additional restrictions, in this example there is nothing in the additional restrictions regarding a break of journey.



          Finally, there is one more thing to consider. Is your new journey valid? For example, if you were to use your ticket between Edinburgh to Helensburgh to try and travel Edinburgh to London. Get out and then travel from London to Helensburgh this would not be a valid route. There are two criteria for determining if a route is valid, your route only needs to meet one of them.



          1. Do direct trains between a and b stop at your intermediate station? In this case direct trains between Edinburgh and Helensburgh stop at Glasgow so you can definitely break your journey there.

          2. The second option is to determine if your route is "mapped" as per the routing guide. This is quite a complicated process and can involve arguments with some members of staff, know your rights and be prepared to argue with them.

          First go to http://data.atoc.org/rp_calc and enter your route, date and any restrictions (see above). Doing this will show that from a legal point of view, your journey from Edinburgh to Helensburgh is legally a journey from EDINBURGH GROUP to DUMBARTON GROUP. You then need to go to this list http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/yellow_pages.pdf (caution, very large (2268 pages) pdf file). And look for your route, it's on page 574. In the permitted routes sections we see "EG+FW". If your route only has one map (1 two letter code) then you must not leave the map, however, yours has two (EG and FW). The rules goverening these routes are on page F8 of http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_detail.pdf but to summerise:



          If the route code has several maps, route tracing must observe the following rules:



          1. Tracing must start at one of the ends of the route code.


          2. All maps must be used.


          3. Maps must be used in strict sequence, first to last or last to first, for a return journey.


          4. Tracing may move from map to map only at a point where the two maps touch.


          5. Once route tracing has left a map it cannot return to it.


          6. Journeys may not double back except between stations which are members of a routeing point group for interchange or unless an easement permits it (http://www.atoc.org/clientfiles/files/easements.pdf).


          You can use this website (http://data.atoc.org/routeing-maps) to display maps of the codes found in the PDF and to help determine exactly what they mean.






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            If the ticket is a Off Peak Day return (£20.50) it has a restriction code of H1. If it is a Super Off Peak Day Return (£16.40) it has a restriction code of H4. I can't find any Off Peak day singles for that route.
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          • I mean sad for us as the people using the system. A cynical person might say that these rules are designed to catch you out...
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:05

















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          Day off-peak tickets generally allow you to break your journey at any station:




          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          (source)



          However, to my understanding, you cannot continue your journey from Glasgow during the evening peak on an off-peak ticket.



          (Edit: For details about peak hours, see the comments by mrpursuit)




          I don't see any limitation of number of travels




          Maybe it's necessary to clarify this - 'Day ticket' means the ticket is valid on a particular day. You may use it only once for each part of the journey. This is different from day passes or travelcards, which are valid for any number of journeys.






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            If this ticket is an Off-Peak Day Return, the evening peak for this ticket is defined roughly as between 1642 and 1811 but there is a few trains that it is valid on in between these times. See nationalrail.co.uk/h1
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            Sep 28 '17 at 11:06











          • When off peak is depends on the exact ticket that is brought and general off peak times given by train operating companies are often completely wrong and don't match the ticket restrictions. On new style tickets the restriction code is shown near the bottom as a web address. eg. nre.co.uk/H1
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            Sep 28 '17 at 11:13










          • Thanks for the clarification, I've updated my reply. If restriction 'H1' actually applies to the OP's ticket, this would mean you could easily avoid the restrictions at Glasgow Central and Queen St by getting a train from Charing Cross Glasgow.
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          TLDR: Yes you can do this, you must make sure not to travel on peak trains for the whole of your journey. For a more detailed explanation of why and with instructions to determine it for other journeys see below:




          The term you're looking for here is a break of journey. The national rail enquires websites states about these:




          Break of journey is allowed on the outward portion of Off-Peak tickets unless otherwise indicated by a restriction shown against the ticket's validity code and in all cases on the return portion of Off-Peak return tickets.
          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          source: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46590.aspx



          So in general you can break your journey, but lets quickly deal with the ticket restrictions section. Here is an example of a ticket with additional restrictions:
          https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5598/15280434598_97601ddd83_o.jpg



          This ticket has a FE restriction code (look in the lower right hand corner, by the text "See restrictions". Now you can go to http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/YOURCODE (so: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/FE) and read the additional restrictions, in this example there is nothing in the additional restrictions regarding a break of journey.



          Finally, there is one more thing to consider. Is your new journey valid? For example, if you were to use your ticket between Edinburgh to Helensburgh to try and travel Edinburgh to London. Get out and then travel from London to Helensburgh this would not be a valid route. There are two criteria for determining if a route is valid, your route only needs to meet one of them.



          1. Do direct trains between a and b stop at your intermediate station? In this case direct trains between Edinburgh and Helensburgh stop at Glasgow so you can definitely break your journey there.

          2. The second option is to determine if your route is "mapped" as per the routing guide. This is quite a complicated process and can involve arguments with some members of staff, know your rights and be prepared to argue with them.

          First go to http://data.atoc.org/rp_calc and enter your route, date and any restrictions (see above). Doing this will show that from a legal point of view, your journey from Edinburgh to Helensburgh is legally a journey from EDINBURGH GROUP to DUMBARTON GROUP. You then need to go to this list http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/yellow_pages.pdf (caution, very large (2268 pages) pdf file). And look for your route, it's on page 574. In the permitted routes sections we see "EG+FW". If your route only has one map (1 two letter code) then you must not leave the map, however, yours has two (EG and FW). The rules goverening these routes are on page F8 of http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_detail.pdf but to summerise:



          If the route code has several maps, route tracing must observe the following rules:



          1. Tracing must start at one of the ends of the route code.


          2. All maps must be used.


          3. Maps must be used in strict sequence, first to last or last to first, for a return journey.


          4. Tracing may move from map to map only at a point where the two maps touch.


          5. Once route tracing has left a map it cannot return to it.


          6. Journeys may not double back except between stations which are members of a routeing point group for interchange or unless an easement permits it (http://www.atoc.org/clientfiles/files/easements.pdf).


          You can use this website (http://data.atoc.org/routeing-maps) to display maps of the codes found in the PDF and to help determine exactly what they mean.






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            If the ticket is a Off Peak Day return (£20.50) it has a restriction code of H1. If it is a Super Off Peak Day Return (£16.40) it has a restriction code of H4. I can't find any Off Peak day singles for that route.
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:19










          • It's pretty sad that the answer to such a straight forward question is so complicated
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:00










          • I mean sad for us as the people using the system. A cynical person might say that these rules are designed to catch you out...
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:05














          up vote
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          TLDR: Yes you can do this, you must make sure not to travel on peak trains for the whole of your journey. For a more detailed explanation of why and with instructions to determine it for other journeys see below:




          The term you're looking for here is a break of journey. The national rail enquires websites states about these:




          Break of journey is allowed on the outward portion of Off-Peak tickets unless otherwise indicated by a restriction shown against the ticket's validity code and in all cases on the return portion of Off-Peak return tickets.
          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          source: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46590.aspx



          So in general you can break your journey, but lets quickly deal with the ticket restrictions section. Here is an example of a ticket with additional restrictions:
          https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5598/15280434598_97601ddd83_o.jpg



          This ticket has a FE restriction code (look in the lower right hand corner, by the text "See restrictions". Now you can go to http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/YOURCODE (so: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/FE) and read the additional restrictions, in this example there is nothing in the additional restrictions regarding a break of journey.



          Finally, there is one more thing to consider. Is your new journey valid? For example, if you were to use your ticket between Edinburgh to Helensburgh to try and travel Edinburgh to London. Get out and then travel from London to Helensburgh this would not be a valid route. There are two criteria for determining if a route is valid, your route only needs to meet one of them.



          1. Do direct trains between a and b stop at your intermediate station? In this case direct trains between Edinburgh and Helensburgh stop at Glasgow so you can definitely break your journey there.

          2. The second option is to determine if your route is "mapped" as per the routing guide. This is quite a complicated process and can involve arguments with some members of staff, know your rights and be prepared to argue with them.

          First go to http://data.atoc.org/rp_calc and enter your route, date and any restrictions (see above). Doing this will show that from a legal point of view, your journey from Edinburgh to Helensburgh is legally a journey from EDINBURGH GROUP to DUMBARTON GROUP. You then need to go to this list http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/yellow_pages.pdf (caution, very large (2268 pages) pdf file). And look for your route, it's on page 574. In the permitted routes sections we see "EG+FW". If your route only has one map (1 two letter code) then you must not leave the map, however, yours has two (EG and FW). The rules goverening these routes are on page F8 of http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_detail.pdf but to summerise:



          If the route code has several maps, route tracing must observe the following rules:



          1. Tracing must start at one of the ends of the route code.


          2. All maps must be used.


          3. Maps must be used in strict sequence, first to last or last to first, for a return journey.


          4. Tracing may move from map to map only at a point where the two maps touch.


          5. Once route tracing has left a map it cannot return to it.


          6. Journeys may not double back except between stations which are members of a routeing point group for interchange or unless an easement permits it (http://www.atoc.org/clientfiles/files/easements.pdf).


          You can use this website (http://data.atoc.org/routeing-maps) to display maps of the codes found in the PDF and to help determine exactly what they mean.






          share|improve this answer


















          • 3




            If the ticket is a Off Peak Day return (£20.50) it has a restriction code of H1. If it is a Super Off Peak Day Return (£16.40) it has a restriction code of H4. I can't find any Off Peak day singles for that route.
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:19










          • It's pretty sad that the answer to such a straight forward question is so complicated
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:00










          • I mean sad for us as the people using the system. A cynical person might say that these rules are designed to catch you out...
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:05












          up vote
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          up vote
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          TLDR: Yes you can do this, you must make sure not to travel on peak trains for the whole of your journey. For a more detailed explanation of why and with instructions to determine it for other journeys see below:




          The term you're looking for here is a break of journey. The national rail enquires websites states about these:




          Break of journey is allowed on the outward portion of Off-Peak tickets unless otherwise indicated by a restriction shown against the ticket's validity code and in all cases on the return portion of Off-Peak return tickets.
          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          source: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46590.aspx



          So in general you can break your journey, but lets quickly deal with the ticket restrictions section. Here is an example of a ticket with additional restrictions:
          https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5598/15280434598_97601ddd83_o.jpg



          This ticket has a FE restriction code (look in the lower right hand corner, by the text "See restrictions". Now you can go to http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/YOURCODE (so: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/FE) and read the additional restrictions, in this example there is nothing in the additional restrictions regarding a break of journey.



          Finally, there is one more thing to consider. Is your new journey valid? For example, if you were to use your ticket between Edinburgh to Helensburgh to try and travel Edinburgh to London. Get out and then travel from London to Helensburgh this would not be a valid route. There are two criteria for determining if a route is valid, your route only needs to meet one of them.



          1. Do direct trains between a and b stop at your intermediate station? In this case direct trains between Edinburgh and Helensburgh stop at Glasgow so you can definitely break your journey there.

          2. The second option is to determine if your route is "mapped" as per the routing guide. This is quite a complicated process and can involve arguments with some members of staff, know your rights and be prepared to argue with them.

          First go to http://data.atoc.org/rp_calc and enter your route, date and any restrictions (see above). Doing this will show that from a legal point of view, your journey from Edinburgh to Helensburgh is legally a journey from EDINBURGH GROUP to DUMBARTON GROUP. You then need to go to this list http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/yellow_pages.pdf (caution, very large (2268 pages) pdf file). And look for your route, it's on page 574. In the permitted routes sections we see "EG+FW". If your route only has one map (1 two letter code) then you must not leave the map, however, yours has two (EG and FW). The rules goverening these routes are on page F8 of http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_detail.pdf but to summerise:



          If the route code has several maps, route tracing must observe the following rules:



          1. Tracing must start at one of the ends of the route code.


          2. All maps must be used.


          3. Maps must be used in strict sequence, first to last or last to first, for a return journey.


          4. Tracing may move from map to map only at a point where the two maps touch.


          5. Once route tracing has left a map it cannot return to it.


          6. Journeys may not double back except between stations which are members of a routeing point group for interchange or unless an easement permits it (http://www.atoc.org/clientfiles/files/easements.pdf).


          You can use this website (http://data.atoc.org/routeing-maps) to display maps of the codes found in the PDF and to help determine exactly what they mean.






          share|improve this answer














          TLDR: Yes you can do this, you must make sure not to travel on peak trains for the whole of your journey. For a more detailed explanation of why and with instructions to determine it for other journeys see below:




          The term you're looking for here is a break of journey. The national rail enquires websites states about these:




          Break of journey is allowed on the outward portion of Off-Peak tickets unless otherwise indicated by a restriction shown against the ticket's validity code and in all cases on the return portion of Off-Peak return tickets.
          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          source: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/times_fares/ticket_types/46590.aspx



          So in general you can break your journey, but lets quickly deal with the ticket restrictions section. Here is an example of a ticket with additional restrictions:
          https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5598/15280434598_97601ddd83_o.jpg



          This ticket has a FE restriction code (look in the lower right hand corner, by the text "See restrictions". Now you can go to http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/YOURCODE (so: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/FE) and read the additional restrictions, in this example there is nothing in the additional restrictions regarding a break of journey.



          Finally, there is one more thing to consider. Is your new journey valid? For example, if you were to use your ticket between Edinburgh to Helensburgh to try and travel Edinburgh to London. Get out and then travel from London to Helensburgh this would not be a valid route. There are two criteria for determining if a route is valid, your route only needs to meet one of them.



          1. Do direct trains between a and b stop at your intermediate station? In this case direct trains between Edinburgh and Helensburgh stop at Glasgow so you can definitely break your journey there.

          2. The second option is to determine if your route is "mapped" as per the routing guide. This is quite a complicated process and can involve arguments with some members of staff, know your rights and be prepared to argue with them.

          First go to http://data.atoc.org/rp_calc and enter your route, date and any restrictions (see above). Doing this will show that from a legal point of view, your journey from Edinburgh to Helensburgh is legally a journey from EDINBURGH GROUP to DUMBARTON GROUP. You then need to go to this list http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/yellow_pages.pdf (caution, very large (2268 pages) pdf file). And look for your route, it's on page 574. In the permitted routes sections we see "EG+FW". If your route only has one map (1 two letter code) then you must not leave the map, however, yours has two (EG and FW). The rules goverening these routes are on page F8 of http://iblocks-rg-publication.s3-website-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/nrg_detail.pdf but to summerise:



          If the route code has several maps, route tracing must observe the following rules:



          1. Tracing must start at one of the ends of the route code.


          2. All maps must be used.


          3. Maps must be used in strict sequence, first to last or last to first, for a return journey.


          4. Tracing may move from map to map only at a point where the two maps touch.


          5. Once route tracing has left a map it cannot return to it.


          6. Journeys may not double back except between stations which are members of a routeing point group for interchange or unless an easement permits it (http://www.atoc.org/clientfiles/files/easements.pdf).


          You can use this website (http://data.atoc.org/routeing-maps) to display maps of the codes found in the PDF and to help determine exactly what they mean.







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            If the ticket is a Off Peak Day return (£20.50) it has a restriction code of H1. If it is a Super Off Peak Day Return (£16.40) it has a restriction code of H4. I can't find any Off Peak day singles for that route.
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:19










          • It's pretty sad that the answer to such a straight forward question is so complicated
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:00










          • I mean sad for us as the people using the system. A cynical person might say that these rules are designed to catch you out...
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:05












          • 3




            If the ticket is a Off Peak Day return (£20.50) it has a restriction code of H1. If it is a Super Off Peak Day Return (£16.40) it has a restriction code of H4. I can't find any Off Peak day singles for that route.
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:19










          • It's pretty sad that the answer to such a straight forward question is so complicated
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:00










          • I mean sad for us as the people using the system. A cynical person might say that these rules are designed to catch you out...
            – James Mitchell
            Sep 29 '17 at 8:05







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          If the ticket is a Off Peak Day return (£20.50) it has a restriction code of H1. If it is a Super Off Peak Day Return (£16.40) it has a restriction code of H4. I can't find any Off Peak day singles for that route.
          – mpursuit
          Sep 28 '17 at 11:19




          If the ticket is a Off Peak Day return (£20.50) it has a restriction code of H1. If it is a Super Off Peak Day Return (£16.40) it has a restriction code of H4. I can't find any Off Peak day singles for that route.
          – mpursuit
          Sep 28 '17 at 11:19












          It's pretty sad that the answer to such a straight forward question is so complicated
          – James Mitchell
          Sep 29 '17 at 8:00




          It's pretty sad that the answer to such a straight forward question is so complicated
          – James Mitchell
          Sep 29 '17 at 8:00












          I mean sad for us as the people using the system. A cynical person might say that these rules are designed to catch you out...
          – James Mitchell
          Sep 29 '17 at 8:05




          I mean sad for us as the people using the system. A cynical person might say that these rules are designed to catch you out...
          – James Mitchell
          Sep 29 '17 at 8:05












          up vote
          6
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          Day off-peak tickets generally allow you to break your journey at any station:




          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          (source)



          However, to my understanding, you cannot continue your journey from Glasgow during the evening peak on an off-peak ticket.



          (Edit: For details about peak hours, see the comments by mrpursuit)




          I don't see any limitation of number of travels




          Maybe it's necessary to clarify this - 'Day ticket' means the ticket is valid on a particular day. You may use it only once for each part of the journey. This is different from day passes or travelcards, which are valid for any number of journeys.






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          • 1




            If this ticket is an Off-Peak Day Return, the evening peak for this ticket is defined roughly as between 1642 and 1811 but there is a few trains that it is valid on in between these times. See nationalrail.co.uk/h1
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:06











          • When off peak is depends on the exact ticket that is brought and general off peak times given by train operating companies are often completely wrong and don't match the ticket restrictions. On new style tickets the restriction code is shown near the bottom as a web address. eg. nre.co.uk/H1
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:13










          • Thanks for the clarification, I've updated my reply. If restriction 'H1' actually applies to the OP's ticket, this would mean you could easily avoid the restrictions at Glasgow Central and Queen St by getting a train from Charing Cross Glasgow.
            – user108733
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:28














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          Day off-peak tickets generally allow you to break your journey at any station:




          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          (source)



          However, to my understanding, you cannot continue your journey from Glasgow during the evening peak on an off-peak ticket.



          (Edit: For details about peak hours, see the comments by mrpursuit)




          I don't see any limitation of number of travels




          Maybe it's necessary to clarify this - 'Day ticket' means the ticket is valid on a particular day. You may use it only once for each part of the journey. This is different from day passes or travelcards, which are valid for any number of journeys.






          share|improve this answer


















          • 1




            If this ticket is an Off-Peak Day Return, the evening peak for this ticket is defined roughly as between 1642 and 1811 but there is a few trains that it is valid on in between these times. See nationalrail.co.uk/h1
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:06











          • When off peak is depends on the exact ticket that is brought and general off peak times given by train operating companies are often completely wrong and don't match the ticket restrictions. On new style tickets the restriction code is shown near the bottom as a web address. eg. nre.co.uk/H1
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:13










          • Thanks for the clarification, I've updated my reply. If restriction 'H1' actually applies to the OP's ticket, this would mean you could easily avoid the restrictions at Glasgow Central and Queen St by getting a train from Charing Cross Glasgow.
            – user108733
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:28












          up vote
          6
          down vote










          up vote
          6
          down vote









          Day off-peak tickets generally allow you to break your journey at any station:




          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          (source)



          However, to my understanding, you cannot continue your journey from Glasgow during the evening peak on an off-peak ticket.



          (Edit: For details about peak hours, see the comments by mrpursuit)




          I don't see any limitation of number of travels




          Maybe it's necessary to clarify this - 'Day ticket' means the ticket is valid on a particular day. You may use it only once for each part of the journey. This is different from day passes or travelcards, which are valid for any number of journeys.






          share|improve this answer














          Day off-peak tickets generally allow you to break your journey at any station:




          You may start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station along the route of travel on Off-Peak tickets unless the ticket restriction for the journey you are making does not allow it. If you intend to start, break and resume, or end your journey at any intermediate station, please call 03457 48 49 50 to check if it is available on your specific journey.




          (source)



          However, to my understanding, you cannot continue your journey from Glasgow during the evening peak on an off-peak ticket.



          (Edit: For details about peak hours, see the comments by mrpursuit)




          I don't see any limitation of number of travels




          Maybe it's necessary to clarify this - 'Day ticket' means the ticket is valid on a particular day. You may use it only once for each part of the journey. This is different from day passes or travelcards, which are valid for any number of journeys.







          share|improve this answer














          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer








          edited Sep 28 '17 at 11:26

























          answered Sep 28 '17 at 10:24









          user108733

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          • 1




            If this ticket is an Off-Peak Day Return, the evening peak for this ticket is defined roughly as between 1642 and 1811 but there is a few trains that it is valid on in between these times. See nationalrail.co.uk/h1
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:06











          • When off peak is depends on the exact ticket that is brought and general off peak times given by train operating companies are often completely wrong and don't match the ticket restrictions. On new style tickets the restriction code is shown near the bottom as a web address. eg. nre.co.uk/H1
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:13










          • Thanks for the clarification, I've updated my reply. If restriction 'H1' actually applies to the OP's ticket, this would mean you could easily avoid the restrictions at Glasgow Central and Queen St by getting a train from Charing Cross Glasgow.
            – user108733
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:28












          • 1




            If this ticket is an Off-Peak Day Return, the evening peak for this ticket is defined roughly as between 1642 and 1811 but there is a few trains that it is valid on in between these times. See nationalrail.co.uk/h1
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:06











          • When off peak is depends on the exact ticket that is brought and general off peak times given by train operating companies are often completely wrong and don't match the ticket restrictions. On new style tickets the restriction code is shown near the bottom as a web address. eg. nre.co.uk/H1
            – mpursuit
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:13










          • Thanks for the clarification, I've updated my reply. If restriction 'H1' actually applies to the OP's ticket, this would mean you could easily avoid the restrictions at Glasgow Central and Queen St by getting a train from Charing Cross Glasgow.
            – user108733
            Sep 28 '17 at 11:28







          1




          1




          If this ticket is an Off-Peak Day Return, the evening peak for this ticket is defined roughly as between 1642 and 1811 but there is a few trains that it is valid on in between these times. See nationalrail.co.uk/h1
          – mpursuit
          Sep 28 '17 at 11:06





          If this ticket is an Off-Peak Day Return, the evening peak for this ticket is defined roughly as between 1642 and 1811 but there is a few trains that it is valid on in between these times. See nationalrail.co.uk/h1
          – mpursuit
          Sep 28 '17 at 11:06













          When off peak is depends on the exact ticket that is brought and general off peak times given by train operating companies are often completely wrong and don't match the ticket restrictions. On new style tickets the restriction code is shown near the bottom as a web address. eg. nre.co.uk/H1
          – mpursuit
          Sep 28 '17 at 11:13




          When off peak is depends on the exact ticket that is brought and general off peak times given by train operating companies are often completely wrong and don't match the ticket restrictions. On new style tickets the restriction code is shown near the bottom as a web address. eg. nre.co.uk/H1
          – mpursuit
          Sep 28 '17 at 11:13












          Thanks for the clarification, I've updated my reply. If restriction 'H1' actually applies to the OP's ticket, this would mean you could easily avoid the restrictions at Glasgow Central and Queen St by getting a train from Charing Cross Glasgow.
          – user108733
          Sep 28 '17 at 11:28




          Thanks for the clarification, I've updated my reply. If restriction 'H1' actually applies to the OP's ticket, this would mean you could easily avoid the restrictions at Glasgow Central and Queen St by getting a train from Charing Cross Glasgow.
          – user108733
          Sep 28 '17 at 11:28

















           

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