Can I leave the EU on my New Zealand passport, having come in with my European passport and lost it?
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Will there be problems if it hasn't been stamped in?
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Yes, the lack of an entry record it will almost certainly be noticed. Since you do have a valid NZ passport, the airline will be fine and I suspect EU immigration would also be OK if you explain what happened (you'll want a police report for the loss!), but I recommend you ring up your local immigration dept and confirm.
– jpatokal
Apr 21 at 11:26
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Are you in the Schengen area or in another EU country? Have you staid longer than what is allowed as a NZ citizen? Have you consider getting a replacement for your EU passport before going back to NZ? Depending on the circumstances, that might be the solution with least hassle.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 12:38
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The duration of stay shouldn't matter, because the only way to get around the absence of an entry record is going to be to convince the officials that the traveler is an EU citizen.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 13:42
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@Tor-EinarJarnbjo that's true, but in such cases the passport would normally have been issued within the previous 90 days, which this one probably wasn't. But more importantly, regardless of the reason for having a third-country passport with no entry stamp, someone in that situation will get extra scrutiny, at which point the reason will come out. Since, in this case, the reason is that the person is an EU citizen, the duration of stay in the EU will not affect the outcome.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 18:43
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@phoog It is not likely that OP can prove being an EU citizen when passing exit immigration checks without getting a new EU passport, in which case the problem is moot anyway. If he hasn't staid longer than a NZ citizen is allowed to, his EU citizenship will be irrelevant and will not have to be proven. Why the entry stamp is missing (the immigration officer could also simply have forgotten to stamp the passport at the entry check) is of less importance if OP with other means can show at which date he entered.
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Apr 21 at 19:39
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Will there be problems if it hasn't been stamped in?
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Yes, the lack of an entry record it will almost certainly be noticed. Since you do have a valid NZ passport, the airline will be fine and I suspect EU immigration would also be OK if you explain what happened (you'll want a police report for the loss!), but I recommend you ring up your local immigration dept and confirm.
– jpatokal
Apr 21 at 11:26
1
Are you in the Schengen area or in another EU country? Have you staid longer than what is allowed as a NZ citizen? Have you consider getting a replacement for your EU passport before going back to NZ? Depending on the circumstances, that might be the solution with least hassle.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 12:38
1
The duration of stay shouldn't matter, because the only way to get around the absence of an entry record is going to be to convince the officials that the traveler is an EU citizen.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 13:42
1
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo that's true, but in such cases the passport would normally have been issued within the previous 90 days, which this one probably wasn't. But more importantly, regardless of the reason for having a third-country passport with no entry stamp, someone in that situation will get extra scrutiny, at which point the reason will come out. Since, in this case, the reason is that the person is an EU citizen, the duration of stay in the EU will not affect the outcome.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 18:43
1
@phoog It is not likely that OP can prove being an EU citizen when passing exit immigration checks without getting a new EU passport, in which case the problem is moot anyway. If he hasn't staid longer than a NZ citizen is allowed to, his EU citizenship will be irrelevant and will not have to be proven. Why the entry stamp is missing (the immigration officer could also simply have forgotten to stamp the passport at the entry check) is of less importance if OP with other means can show at which date he entered.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 19:39
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Yes, the lack of an entry record it will almost certainly be noticed. Since you do have a valid NZ passport, the airline will be fine and I suspect EU immigration would also be OK if you explain what happened (you'll want a police report for the loss!), but I recommend you ring up your local immigration dept and confirm.
– jpatokal
Apr 21 at 11:26
1
Are you in the Schengen area or in another EU country? Have you staid longer than what is allowed as a NZ citizen? Have you consider getting a replacement for your EU passport before going back to NZ? Depending on the circumstances, that might be the solution with least hassle.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 12:38
1
The duration of stay shouldn't matter, because the only way to get around the absence of an entry record is going to be to convince the officials that the traveler is an EU citizen.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 13:42
1
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo that's true, but in such cases the passport would normally have been issued within the previous 90 days, which this one probably wasn't. But more importantly, regardless of the reason for having a third-country passport with no entry stamp, someone in that situation will get extra scrutiny, at which point the reason will come out. Since, in this case, the reason is that the person is an EU citizen, the duration of stay in the EU will not affect the outcome.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 18:43
1
@phoog It is not likely that OP can prove being an EU citizen when passing exit immigration checks without getting a new EU passport, in which case the problem is moot anyway. If he hasn't staid longer than a NZ citizen is allowed to, his EU citizenship will be irrelevant and will not have to be proven. Why the entry stamp is missing (the immigration officer could also simply have forgotten to stamp the passport at the entry check) is of less importance if OP with other means can show at which date he entered.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 19:39
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Yes, the lack of an entry record it will almost certainly be noticed. Since you do have a valid NZ passport, the airline will be fine and I suspect EU immigration would also be OK if you explain what happened (you'll want a police report for the loss!), but I recommend you ring up your local immigration dept and confirm.
– jpatokal
Apr 21 at 11:26
Yes, the lack of an entry record it will almost certainly be noticed. Since you do have a valid NZ passport, the airline will be fine and I suspect EU immigration would also be OK if you explain what happened (you'll want a police report for the loss!), but I recommend you ring up your local immigration dept and confirm.
– jpatokal
Apr 21 at 11:26
1
1
Are you in the Schengen area or in another EU country? Have you staid longer than what is allowed as a NZ citizen? Have you consider getting a replacement for your EU passport before going back to NZ? Depending on the circumstances, that might be the solution with least hassle.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 12:38
Are you in the Schengen area or in another EU country? Have you staid longer than what is allowed as a NZ citizen? Have you consider getting a replacement for your EU passport before going back to NZ? Depending on the circumstances, that might be the solution with least hassle.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 12:38
1
1
The duration of stay shouldn't matter, because the only way to get around the absence of an entry record is going to be to convince the officials that the traveler is an EU citizen.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 13:42
The duration of stay shouldn't matter, because the only way to get around the absence of an entry record is going to be to convince the officials that the traveler is an EU citizen.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 13:42
1
1
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo that's true, but in such cases the passport would normally have been issued within the previous 90 days, which this one probably wasn't. But more importantly, regardless of the reason for having a third-country passport with no entry stamp, someone in that situation will get extra scrutiny, at which point the reason will come out. Since, in this case, the reason is that the person is an EU citizen, the duration of stay in the EU will not affect the outcome.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 18:43
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo that's true, but in such cases the passport would normally have been issued within the previous 90 days, which this one probably wasn't. But more importantly, regardless of the reason for having a third-country passport with no entry stamp, someone in that situation will get extra scrutiny, at which point the reason will come out. Since, in this case, the reason is that the person is an EU citizen, the duration of stay in the EU will not affect the outcome.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 18:43
1
1
@phoog It is not likely that OP can prove being an EU citizen when passing exit immigration checks without getting a new EU passport, in which case the problem is moot anyway. If he hasn't staid longer than a NZ citizen is allowed to, his EU citizenship will be irrelevant and will not have to be proven. Why the entry stamp is missing (the immigration officer could also simply have forgotten to stamp the passport at the entry check) is of less importance if OP with other means can show at which date he entered.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 19:39
@phoog It is not likely that OP can prove being an EU citizen when passing exit immigration checks without getting a new EU passport, in which case the problem is moot anyway. If he hasn't staid longer than a NZ citizen is allowed to, his EU citizenship will be irrelevant and will not have to be proven. Why the entry stamp is missing (the immigration officer could also simply have forgotten to stamp the passport at the entry check) is of less importance if OP with other means can show at which date he entered.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 19:39
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Yes, the lack of an entry record it will almost certainly be noticed. Since you do have a valid NZ passport, the airline will be fine and I suspect EU immigration would also be OK if you explain what happened (you'll want a police report for the loss!), but I recommend you ring up your local immigration dept and confirm.
– jpatokal
Apr 21 at 11:26
1
Are you in the Schengen area or in another EU country? Have you staid longer than what is allowed as a NZ citizen? Have you consider getting a replacement for your EU passport before going back to NZ? Depending on the circumstances, that might be the solution with least hassle.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 12:38
1
The duration of stay shouldn't matter, because the only way to get around the absence of an entry record is going to be to convince the officials that the traveler is an EU citizen.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 13:42
1
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo that's true, but in such cases the passport would normally have been issued within the previous 90 days, which this one probably wasn't. But more importantly, regardless of the reason for having a third-country passport with no entry stamp, someone in that situation will get extra scrutiny, at which point the reason will come out. Since, in this case, the reason is that the person is an EU citizen, the duration of stay in the EU will not affect the outcome.
– phoog
Apr 21 at 18:43
1
@phoog It is not likely that OP can prove being an EU citizen when passing exit immigration checks without getting a new EU passport, in which case the problem is moot anyway. If he hasn't staid longer than a NZ citizen is allowed to, his EU citizenship will be irrelevant and will not have to be proven. Why the entry stamp is missing (the immigration officer could also simply have forgotten to stamp the passport at the entry check) is of less importance if OP with other means can show at which date he entered.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Apr 21 at 19:39