Flight flown + operated by completely different, non-code-share airline?
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Yesterday (March 3) I flew Jetstar Pacific 596 from SGN to DAD. The airplane contained markings for vueling.com, the crew was wearing vueling uniforms, and despite being a domestic flight in Vietnam, flight announcements were made in English and Spanish. As far as I can tell, Vueling is a low cost carrier in Spain and this wasn't a code share flight.
It looks like this may have been the plane: https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A320/5940/EC-LZF-Jetstar-Pacific-Airlines
Can anyone explain what is going on? I've never seen anything like this before.
airlines vietnam low-cost-carriers vueling
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Yesterday (March 3) I flew Jetstar Pacific 596 from SGN to DAD. The airplane contained markings for vueling.com, the crew was wearing vueling uniforms, and despite being a domestic flight in Vietnam, flight announcements were made in English and Spanish. As far as I can tell, Vueling is a low cost carrier in Spain and this wasn't a code share flight.
It looks like this may have been the plane: https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A320/5940/EC-LZF-Jetstar-Pacific-Airlines
Can anyone explain what is going on? I've never seen anything like this before.
airlines vietnam low-cost-carriers vueling
edited Nov 7 '16 at 16:37
pnuts
27.1k368166
asked Mar 4 '16 at 9:33
Kevin BurkeKevin Burke
2,05662238
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This may be better suited for the Aviation site, if so and you are a moderator can you move it?
– Kevin Burke
Mar 4 '16 at 9:34
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Yesterday (March 3) I flew Jetstar Pacific 596 from SGN to DAD. The airplane contained markings for vueling.com, the crew was wearing vueling uniforms, and despite being a domestic flight in Vietnam, flight announcements were made in English and Spanish. As far as I can tell, Vueling is a low cost carrier in Spain and this wasn't a code share flight.
It looks like this may have been the plane: https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A320/5940/EC-LZF-Jetstar-Pacific-Airlines
Can anyone explain what is going on? I've never seen anything like this before.
airlines vietnam low-cost-carriers vueling
edited Nov 7 '16 at 16:37
pnuts
27.1k368166
asked Mar 4 '16 at 9:33
Kevin BurkeKevin Burke
2,05662238
Yesterday (March 3) I flew Jetstar Pacific 596 from SGN to DAD. The airplane contained markings for vueling.com, the crew was wearing vueling uniforms, and despite being a domestic flight in Vietnam, flight announcements were made in English and Spanish. As far as I can tell, Vueling is a low cost carrier in Spain and this wasn't a code share flight.
It looks like this may have been the plane: https://m.planespotters.net/airframe/Airbus/A320/5940/EC-LZF-Jetstar-Pacific-Airlines
Can anyone explain what is going on? I've never seen anything like this before.
airlines vietnam low-cost-carriers vueling
airlines vietnam low-cost-carriers vueling
edited Nov 7 '16 at 16:37
pnuts
27.1k368166
asked Mar 4 '16 at 9:33
Kevin BurkeKevin Burke
2,05662238
edited Nov 7 '16 at 16:37
pnuts
27.1k368166
asked Mar 4 '16 at 9:33
Kevin BurkeKevin Burke
2,05662238
edited Nov 7 '16 at 16:37
pnuts
27.1k368166
edited Nov 7 '16 at 16:37
pnuts
27.1k368166
edited Nov 7 '16 at 16:37
pnuts
27.1k368166
27.1k368166
asked Mar 4 '16 at 9:33
Kevin BurkeKevin Burke
2,05662238
asked Mar 4 '16 at 9:33
Kevin BurkeKevin Burke
2,05662238
asked Mar 4 '16 at 9:33
Kevin BurkeKevin Burke
2,05662238
2,05662238
4
This may be better suited for the Aviation site, if so and you are a moderator can you move it?
– Kevin Burke
Mar 4 '16 at 9:34
add a comment |
4
This may be better suited for the Aviation site, if so and you are a moderator can you move it?
– Kevin Burke
Mar 4 '16 at 9:34
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4
This may be better suited for the Aviation site, if so and you are a moderator can you move it?
– Kevin Burke
Mar 4 '16 at 9:34
This may be better suited for the Aviation site, if so and you are a moderator can you move it?
– Kevin Burke
Mar 4 '16 at 9:34
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Airlines wet lease aircraft all the time (wet lease being a lease that includes crew, maintenance, pilots, etc versus a dry lease which is aircraft only). If the lease is long term, then often the plane is painted to match the leasing airline's look and flight crews are provided with uniforms. But if the lease is short term, say filling the need for an increase in flights during a certain season or perhaps a delay in delivery of a new aircraft, then the aircraft may not be repainted.
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In short, the actual flight was outsourced to another airline.
– Cronax
Mar 4 '16 at 11:22
3
@Cronax - one could also use the less derogatory term of sub-contracted. But the airline industry term is wet lease.
– user13044
Mar 4 '16 at 12:43
5
@Malcolm You must not work in IT.
– Mark
Mar 4 '16 at 13:30
3
@Malcolm The derogatory nature of the word may also be regional. I notice that you are from Russia while Mark is from the US. Here in America the word "outsourcing" generally also includes the implication of taking away American jobs and giving them to cheap labor in other countries.
– David K
Mar 4 '16 at 15:59
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@DavidK I lived in the US for several years, and the same practice happens here too, so I know what he might mean, but that doesn't mean that we should stop calling things by their names just because the business practice may sometimes have a negative side.
– Malcolm
Mar 4 '16 at 16:09
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Airlines wet lease aircraft all the time (wet lease being a lease that includes crew, maintenance, pilots, etc versus a dry lease which is aircraft only). If the lease is long term, then often the plane is painted to match the leasing airline's look and flight crews are provided with uniforms. But if the lease is short term, say filling the need for an increase in flights during a certain season or perhaps a delay in delivery of a new aircraft, then the aircraft may not be repainted.
8
In short, the actual flight was outsourced to another airline.
– Cronax
Mar 4 '16 at 11:22
3
@Cronax - one could also use the less derogatory term of sub-contracted. But the airline industry term is wet lease.
– user13044
Mar 4 '16 at 12:43
5
@Malcolm You must not work in IT.
– Mark
Mar 4 '16 at 13:30
3
@Malcolm The derogatory nature of the word may also be regional. I notice that you are from Russia while Mark is from the US. Here in America the word "outsourcing" generally also includes the implication of taking away American jobs and giving them to cheap labor in other countries.
– David K
Mar 4 '16 at 15:59
7
@DavidK I lived in the US for several years, and the same practice happens here too, so I know what he might mean, but that doesn't mean that we should stop calling things by their names just because the business practice may sometimes have a negative side.
– Malcolm
Mar 4 '16 at 16:09
|
show 6 more comments
Airlines wet lease aircraft all the time (wet lease being a lease that includes crew, maintenance, pilots, etc versus a dry lease which is aircraft only). If the lease is long term, then often the plane is painted to match the leasing airline's look and flight crews are provided with uniforms. But if the lease is short term, say filling the need for an increase in flights during a certain season or perhaps a delay in delivery of a new aircraft, then the aircraft may not be repainted.
8
In short, the actual flight was outsourced to another airline.
– Cronax
Mar 4 '16 at 11:22
3
@Cronax - one could also use the less derogatory term of sub-contracted. But the airline industry term is wet lease.
– user13044
Mar 4 '16 at 12:43
5
@Malcolm You must not work in IT.
– Mark
Mar 4 '16 at 13:30
3
@Malcolm The derogatory nature of the word may also be regional. I notice that you are from Russia while Mark is from the US. Here in America the word "outsourcing" generally also includes the implication of taking away American jobs and giving them to cheap labor in other countries.
– David K
Mar 4 '16 at 15:59
7
@DavidK I lived in the US for several years, and the same practice happens here too, so I know what he might mean, but that doesn't mean that we should stop calling things by their names just because the business practice may sometimes have a negative side.
– Malcolm
Mar 4 '16 at 16:09
|
show 6 more comments
Airlines wet lease aircraft all the time (wet lease being a lease that includes crew, maintenance, pilots, etc versus a dry lease which is aircraft only). If the lease is long term, then often the plane is painted to match the leasing airline's look and flight crews are provided with uniforms. But if the lease is short term, say filling the need for an increase in flights during a certain season or perhaps a delay in delivery of a new aircraft, then the aircraft may not be repainted.
Airlines wet lease aircraft all the time (wet lease being a lease that includes crew, maintenance, pilots, etc versus a dry lease which is aircraft only). If the lease is long term, then often the plane is painted to match the leasing airline's look and flight crews are provided with uniforms. But if the lease is short term, say filling the need for an increase in flights during a certain season or perhaps a delay in delivery of a new aircraft, then the aircraft may not be repainted.
edited Mar 4 '16 at 9:49
answered Mar 4 '16 at 9:43
user13044
8
In short, the actual flight was outsourced to another airline.
– Cronax
Mar 4 '16 at 11:22
3
@Cronax - one could also use the less derogatory term of sub-contracted. But the airline industry term is wet lease.
– user13044
Mar 4 '16 at 12:43
5
@Malcolm You must not work in IT.
– Mark
Mar 4 '16 at 13:30
3
@Malcolm The derogatory nature of the word may also be regional. I notice that you are from Russia while Mark is from the US. Here in America the word "outsourcing" generally also includes the implication of taking away American jobs and giving them to cheap labor in other countries.
– David K
Mar 4 '16 at 15:59
7
@DavidK I lived in the US for several years, and the same practice happens here too, so I know what he might mean, but that doesn't mean that we should stop calling things by their names just because the business practice may sometimes have a negative side.
– Malcolm
Mar 4 '16 at 16:09
|
show 6 more comments
8
In short, the actual flight was outsourced to another airline.
– Cronax
Mar 4 '16 at 11:22
3
@Cronax - one could also use the less derogatory term of sub-contracted. But the airline industry term is wet lease.
– user13044
Mar 4 '16 at 12:43
5
@Malcolm You must not work in IT.
– Mark
Mar 4 '16 at 13:30
3
@Malcolm The derogatory nature of the word may also be regional. I notice that you are from Russia while Mark is from the US. Here in America the word "outsourcing" generally also includes the implication of taking away American jobs and giving them to cheap labor in other countries.
– David K
Mar 4 '16 at 15:59
7
@DavidK I lived in the US for several years, and the same practice happens here too, so I know what he might mean, but that doesn't mean that we should stop calling things by their names just because the business practice may sometimes have a negative side.
– Malcolm
Mar 4 '16 at 16:09
8
8
In short, the actual flight was outsourced to another airline.
– Cronax
Mar 4 '16 at 11:22
In short, the actual flight was outsourced to another airline.
– Cronax
Mar 4 '16 at 11:22
3
3
@Cronax - one could also use the less derogatory term of sub-contracted. But the airline industry term is wet lease.
– user13044
Mar 4 '16 at 12:43
@Cronax - one could also use the less derogatory term of sub-contracted. But the airline industry term is wet lease.
– user13044
Mar 4 '16 at 12:43
5
5
@Malcolm You must not work in IT.
– Mark
Mar 4 '16 at 13:30
@Malcolm You must not work in IT.
– Mark
Mar 4 '16 at 13:30
3
3
@Malcolm The derogatory nature of the word may also be regional. I notice that you are from Russia while Mark is from the US. Here in America the word "outsourcing" generally also includes the implication of taking away American jobs and giving them to cheap labor in other countries.
– David K
Mar 4 '16 at 15:59
@Malcolm The derogatory nature of the word may also be regional. I notice that you are from Russia while Mark is from the US. Here in America the word "outsourcing" generally also includes the implication of taking away American jobs and giving them to cheap labor in other countries.
– David K
Mar 4 '16 at 15:59
7
7
@DavidK I lived in the US for several years, and the same practice happens here too, so I know what he might mean, but that doesn't mean that we should stop calling things by their names just because the business practice may sometimes have a negative side.
– Malcolm
Mar 4 '16 at 16:09
@DavidK I lived in the US for several years, and the same practice happens here too, so I know what he might mean, but that doesn't mean that we should stop calling things by their names just because the business practice may sometimes have a negative side.
– Malcolm
Mar 4 '16 at 16:09
|
show 6 more comments
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This may be better suited for the Aviation site, if so and you are a moderator can you move it?
– Kevin Burke
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