Travel in schengen countries without carrying passport for non EU citizen
I am an Indian student in France on a 6 month visa for an Internship. Currently I don't have my passport with me as I have applied for UK visa and am not hoping to receive it back in next 10 days. I was wondering if I can travel to Germany without my passport in hand.
The documents I can carry are a photocopy of my passport's identity page, Residence proof here, proof of Internship in France,Indian national identity card, receipt from UK embassy stating my visa application.
Please note that I do NOT have a photocopy of French visa page.
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I am an Indian student in France on a 6 month visa for an Internship. Currently I don't have my passport with me as I have applied for UK visa and am not hoping to receive it back in next 10 days. I was wondering if I can travel to Germany without my passport in hand.
The documents I can carry are a photocopy of my passport's identity page, Residence proof here, proof of Internship in France,Indian national identity card, receipt from UK embassy stating my visa application.
Please note that I do NOT have a photocopy of French visa page.
visas schengen passports indian-citizens
edited Sep 19 '16 at 7:36
Ali Awan
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asked Sep 19 '16 at 7:30
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I plan to go by bus
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 8:53
What "residence proof here" do you have?
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:12
Do you really want to jeopardize your visa application? Do you expect the UK would ignore law transgressions beyond its borders? What happens if at your return to France you are asked for your documents? While in France respect French Law, respect also that of any place you wish to visit.
– David
Sep 19 '16 at 12:23
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@David I never said I was going to break the law. Question was meant to know alternates to the passport, if any. Thanks for your comment, any how
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:57
@phoog I am staying in a residence that hosts students of the university I am interning at. I have a letter from their side.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:58
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I am an Indian student in France on a 6 month visa for an Internship. Currently I don't have my passport with me as I have applied for UK visa and am not hoping to receive it back in next 10 days. I was wondering if I can travel to Germany without my passport in hand.
The documents I can carry are a photocopy of my passport's identity page, Residence proof here, proof of Internship in France,Indian national identity card, receipt from UK embassy stating my visa application.
Please note that I do NOT have a photocopy of French visa page.
visas schengen passports indian-citizens
edited Sep 19 '16 at 7:36
Ali Awan
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asked Sep 19 '16 at 7:30
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433
I am an Indian student in France on a 6 month visa for an Internship. Currently I don't have my passport with me as I have applied for UK visa and am not hoping to receive it back in next 10 days. I was wondering if I can travel to Germany without my passport in hand.
The documents I can carry are a photocopy of my passport's identity page, Residence proof here, proof of Internship in France,Indian national identity card, receipt from UK embassy stating my visa application.
Please note that I do NOT have a photocopy of French visa page.
visas schengen passports indian-citizens
visas schengen passports indian-citizens
edited Sep 19 '16 at 7:36
Ali Awan
10.7k1050100
asked Sep 19 '16 at 7:30
Hardik MalhotraHardik Malhotra
433
edited Sep 19 '16 at 7:36
Ali Awan
10.7k1050100
asked Sep 19 '16 at 7:30
Hardik MalhotraHardik Malhotra
433
edited Sep 19 '16 at 7:36
Ali Awan
10.7k1050100
edited Sep 19 '16 at 7:36
Ali Awan
10.7k1050100
edited Sep 19 '16 at 7:36
Ali Awan
10.7k1050100
10.7k1050100
asked Sep 19 '16 at 7:30
Hardik MalhotraHardik Malhotra
433
asked Sep 19 '16 at 7:30
Hardik MalhotraHardik Malhotra
433
asked Sep 19 '16 at 7:30
Hardik MalhotraHardik Malhotra
433
433
I plan to go by bus
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 8:53
What "residence proof here" do you have?
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:12
Do you really want to jeopardize your visa application? Do you expect the UK would ignore law transgressions beyond its borders? What happens if at your return to France you are asked for your documents? While in France respect French Law, respect also that of any place you wish to visit.
– David
Sep 19 '16 at 12:23
1
@David I never said I was going to break the law. Question was meant to know alternates to the passport, if any. Thanks for your comment, any how
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:57
@phoog I am staying in a residence that hosts students of the university I am interning at. I have a letter from their side.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:58
|
show 1 more comment
I plan to go by bus
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 8:53
What "residence proof here" do you have?
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:12
Do you really want to jeopardize your visa application? Do you expect the UK would ignore law transgressions beyond its borders? What happens if at your return to France you are asked for your documents? While in France respect French Law, respect also that of any place you wish to visit.
– David
Sep 19 '16 at 12:23
1
@David I never said I was going to break the law. Question was meant to know alternates to the passport, if any. Thanks for your comment, any how
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:57
@phoog I am staying in a residence that hosts students of the university I am interning at. I have a letter from their side.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:58
I plan to go by bus
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 8:53
I plan to go by bus
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 8:53
What "residence proof here" do you have?
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:12
What "residence proof here" do you have?
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:12
Do you really want to jeopardize your visa application? Do you expect the UK would ignore law transgressions beyond its borders? What happens if at your return to France you are asked for your documents? While in France respect French Law, respect also that of any place you wish to visit.
– David
Sep 19 '16 at 12:23
Do you really want to jeopardize your visa application? Do you expect the UK would ignore law transgressions beyond its borders? What happens if at your return to France you are asked for your documents? While in France respect French Law, respect also that of any place you wish to visit.
– David
Sep 19 '16 at 12:23
1
1
@David I never said I was going to break the law. Question was meant to know alternates to the passport, if any. Thanks for your comment, any how
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:57
@David I never said I was going to break the law. Question was meant to know alternates to the passport, if any. Thanks for your comment, any how
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:57
@phoog I am staying in a residence that hosts students of the university I am interning at. I have a letter from their side.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:58
@phoog I am staying in a residence that hosts students of the university I am interning at. I have a letter from their side.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:58
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According to the law, you are not allowed to travel to Germany without your passport. Foreign citizens are required to have a valid and approved travel document both to enter and to stay in Germany (AufenthG § 3). In your case as an Indian citizen, only passport is an approved travel document and a copy does not suffice.
In practice, there are no regular id checks on the French/German border and unless the bus company requires you to present a valid id document, no-one will likely notice that you don't have your passport with you.
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The linked statute doesn't help much since we don't know what is meant by a "passport substitute" or a "substitute identity document."
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:10
@phoog In practice: approved national id cards (e.g. from EEA citizens) or refugee travel documents.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Sep 19 '16 at 11:35
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo Thank you. I wanted to know alternates to passport and as it turns out there are none in my case. I just hope I receive my passport back soon enough.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 15:00
Passport checks at the French-German border are rare - at the French-Swiss and German-Swiss borders though, they're common, especially entry checks by the Swiss
– Crazydre
Jul 6 '17 at 20:57
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According to the law, you are not allowed to travel to Germany without your passport. Foreign citizens are required to have a valid and approved travel document both to enter and to stay in Germany (AufenthG § 3). In your case as an Indian citizen, only passport is an approved travel document and a copy does not suffice.
In practice, there are no regular id checks on the French/German border and unless the bus company requires you to present a valid id document, no-one will likely notice that you don't have your passport with you.
edited Sep 19 '16 at 12:36
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The linked statute doesn't help much since we don't know what is meant by a "passport substitute" or a "substitute identity document."
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:10
@phoog In practice: approved national id cards (e.g. from EEA citizens) or refugee travel documents.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Sep 19 '16 at 11:35
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo Thank you. I wanted to know alternates to passport and as it turns out there are none in my case. I just hope I receive my passport back soon enough.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 15:00
Passport checks at the French-German border are rare - at the French-Swiss and German-Swiss borders though, they're common, especially entry checks by the Swiss
– Crazydre
Jul 6 '17 at 20:57
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According to the law, you are not allowed to travel to Germany without your passport. Foreign citizens are required to have a valid and approved travel document both to enter and to stay in Germany (AufenthG § 3). In your case as an Indian citizen, only passport is an approved travel document and a copy does not suffice.
In practice, there are no regular id checks on the French/German border and unless the bus company requires you to present a valid id document, no-one will likely notice that you don't have your passport with you.
edited Sep 19 '16 at 12:36
Jan
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answered Sep 19 '16 at 10:57
Tor-Einar JarnbjoTor-Einar Jarnbjo
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The linked statute doesn't help much since we don't know what is meant by a "passport substitute" or a "substitute identity document."
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:10
@phoog In practice: approved national id cards (e.g. from EEA citizens) or refugee travel documents.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Sep 19 '16 at 11:35
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo Thank you. I wanted to know alternates to passport and as it turns out there are none in my case. I just hope I receive my passport back soon enough.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 15:00
Passport checks at the French-German border are rare - at the French-Swiss and German-Swiss borders though, they're common, especially entry checks by the Swiss
– Crazydre
Jul 6 '17 at 20:57
add a comment |
According to the law, you are not allowed to travel to Germany without your passport. Foreign citizens are required to have a valid and approved travel document both to enter and to stay in Germany (AufenthG § 3). In your case as an Indian citizen, only passport is an approved travel document and a copy does not suffice.
In practice, there are no regular id checks on the French/German border and unless the bus company requires you to present a valid id document, no-one will likely notice that you don't have your passport with you.
edited Sep 19 '16 at 12:36
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answered Sep 19 '16 at 10:57
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According to the law, you are not allowed to travel to Germany without your passport. Foreign citizens are required to have a valid and approved travel document both to enter and to stay in Germany (AufenthG § 3). In your case as an Indian citizen, only passport is an approved travel document and a copy does not suffice.
In practice, there are no regular id checks on the French/German border and unless the bus company requires you to present a valid id document, no-one will likely notice that you don't have your passport with you.
edited Sep 19 '16 at 12:36
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answered Sep 19 '16 at 10:57
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The linked statute doesn't help much since we don't know what is meant by a "passport substitute" or a "substitute identity document."
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:10
@phoog In practice: approved national id cards (e.g. from EEA citizens) or refugee travel documents.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Sep 19 '16 at 11:35
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo Thank you. I wanted to know alternates to passport and as it turns out there are none in my case. I just hope I receive my passport back soon enough.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 15:00
Passport checks at the French-German border are rare - at the French-Swiss and German-Swiss borders though, they're common, especially entry checks by the Swiss
– Crazydre
Jul 6 '17 at 20:57
add a comment |
1
The linked statute doesn't help much since we don't know what is meant by a "passport substitute" or a "substitute identity document."
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:10
@phoog In practice: approved national id cards (e.g. from EEA citizens) or refugee travel documents.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Sep 19 '16 at 11:35
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo Thank you. I wanted to know alternates to passport and as it turns out there are none in my case. I just hope I receive my passport back soon enough.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 15:00
Passport checks at the French-German border are rare - at the French-Swiss and German-Swiss borders though, they're common, especially entry checks by the Swiss
– Crazydre
Jul 6 '17 at 20:57
1
1
The linked statute doesn't help much since we don't know what is meant by a "passport substitute" or a "substitute identity document."
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:10
The linked statute doesn't help much since we don't know what is meant by a "passport substitute" or a "substitute identity document."
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:10
@phoog In practice: approved national id cards (e.g. from EEA citizens) or refugee travel documents.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Sep 19 '16 at 11:35
@phoog In practice: approved national id cards (e.g. from EEA citizens) or refugee travel documents.
– Tor-Einar Jarnbjo
Sep 19 '16 at 11:35
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo Thank you. I wanted to know alternates to passport and as it turns out there are none in my case. I just hope I receive my passport back soon enough.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 15:00
@Tor-EinarJarnbjo Thank you. I wanted to know alternates to passport and as it turns out there are none in my case. I just hope I receive my passport back soon enough.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 15:00
Passport checks at the French-German border are rare - at the French-Swiss and German-Swiss borders though, they're common, especially entry checks by the Swiss
– Crazydre
Jul 6 '17 at 20:57
Passport checks at the French-German border are rare - at the French-Swiss and German-Swiss borders though, they're common, especially entry checks by the Swiss
– Crazydre
Jul 6 '17 at 20:57
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I plan to go by bus
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 8:53
What "residence proof here" do you have?
– phoog
Sep 19 '16 at 11:12
Do you really want to jeopardize your visa application? Do you expect the UK would ignore law transgressions beyond its borders? What happens if at your return to France you are asked for your documents? While in France respect French Law, respect also that of any place you wish to visit.
– David
Sep 19 '16 at 12:23
1
@David I never said I was going to break the law. Question was meant to know alternates to the passport, if any. Thanks for your comment, any how
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:57
@phoog I am staying in a residence that hosts students of the university I am interning at. I have a letter from their side.
– Hardik Malhotra
Sep 19 '16 at 14:58