I did not register my Russian visa, what should I do?
up vote
9
down vote
favorite
I am currently in Saint Petersburg on a tourist visa (I'm French). I arrived on Tuesday and I'm leaving on Wednesday morning, so I will be a total of 7 working days in Russia, including the arrival and departure days.
I assumed I wouldn't need to register my visa, so I didn't, and neither the hostel where I'm staying nor my sponsor told me anything about it either.
Now I just noticed that because of the world cup the rules have changed, and I was actually supposed to register it within 24 hours, so it's obviously too late now.
What should I do? Should I go try to register it anyway before leaving (and pay whatever fine there is) or should I just forget about it and hope they won't care? Is there a risk they will prevent me from leaving Russia?
In case that matters, I will be leaving by train to Finland (and on the last day of my visa).
visas russia registration
add a comment |
up vote
9
down vote
favorite
I am currently in Saint Petersburg on a tourist visa (I'm French). I arrived on Tuesday and I'm leaving on Wednesday morning, so I will be a total of 7 working days in Russia, including the arrival and departure days.
I assumed I wouldn't need to register my visa, so I didn't, and neither the hostel where I'm staying nor my sponsor told me anything about it either.
Now I just noticed that because of the world cup the rules have changed, and I was actually supposed to register it within 24 hours, so it's obviously too late now.
What should I do? Should I go try to register it anyway before leaving (and pay whatever fine there is) or should I just forget about it and hope they won't care? Is there a risk they will prevent me from leaving Russia?
In case that matters, I will be leaving by train to Finland (and on the last day of my visa).
visas russia registration
6
Are you sure the hostel did not register your stay? Hotels, hostels and other businesses that provide accommodation are legally obliged to register your stay. If they don't, I believe they are the ones that get punished, not you.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 18:46
1
How do I know if they did? Shouldn't I have some proof of it? They never actually asked me for my passport, so that's why I'm assuming they didn't register my stay.
– Guillaume Brunerie
Jul 2 '17 at 19:15
6
They didn't ask for your passport on arrival? That's a bit unusual, Russia is very much a "papers, please" country. I believe the registration requires a copy of your passport, so then it's possible they did not register. Asking them directly might be reasonable in any case.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 19:26
1
You should contact your host with this question. It's high probability that you're safe, as your visa is correct, and you're leaving the country in time. Most harmful output for you is some marks in your history, which may lead to problems with obtaining the visa in future.
– VMAtm
Jul 2 '17 at 23:57
4
Did you resolve your issue? You probably should answer your own question, so others in similar situation could do what you did.
– VMAtm
Jul 6 '17 at 17:27
add a comment |
up vote
9
down vote
favorite
up vote
9
down vote
favorite
I am currently in Saint Petersburg on a tourist visa (I'm French). I arrived on Tuesday and I'm leaving on Wednesday morning, so I will be a total of 7 working days in Russia, including the arrival and departure days.
I assumed I wouldn't need to register my visa, so I didn't, and neither the hostel where I'm staying nor my sponsor told me anything about it either.
Now I just noticed that because of the world cup the rules have changed, and I was actually supposed to register it within 24 hours, so it's obviously too late now.
What should I do? Should I go try to register it anyway before leaving (and pay whatever fine there is) or should I just forget about it and hope they won't care? Is there a risk they will prevent me from leaving Russia?
In case that matters, I will be leaving by train to Finland (and on the last day of my visa).
visas russia registration
I am currently in Saint Petersburg on a tourist visa (I'm French). I arrived on Tuesday and I'm leaving on Wednesday morning, so I will be a total of 7 working days in Russia, including the arrival and departure days.
I assumed I wouldn't need to register my visa, so I didn't, and neither the hostel where I'm staying nor my sponsor told me anything about it either.
Now I just noticed that because of the world cup the rules have changed, and I was actually supposed to register it within 24 hours, so it's obviously too late now.
What should I do? Should I go try to register it anyway before leaving (and pay whatever fine there is) or should I just forget about it and hope they won't care? Is there a risk they will prevent me from leaving Russia?
In case that matters, I will be leaving by train to Finland (and on the last day of my visa).
visas russia registration
visas russia registration
asked Jul 2 '17 at 18:31
Guillaume Brunerie
966
966
6
Are you sure the hostel did not register your stay? Hotels, hostels and other businesses that provide accommodation are legally obliged to register your stay. If they don't, I believe they are the ones that get punished, not you.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 18:46
1
How do I know if they did? Shouldn't I have some proof of it? They never actually asked me for my passport, so that's why I'm assuming they didn't register my stay.
– Guillaume Brunerie
Jul 2 '17 at 19:15
6
They didn't ask for your passport on arrival? That's a bit unusual, Russia is very much a "papers, please" country. I believe the registration requires a copy of your passport, so then it's possible they did not register. Asking them directly might be reasonable in any case.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 19:26
1
You should contact your host with this question. It's high probability that you're safe, as your visa is correct, and you're leaving the country in time. Most harmful output for you is some marks in your history, which may lead to problems with obtaining the visa in future.
– VMAtm
Jul 2 '17 at 23:57
4
Did you resolve your issue? You probably should answer your own question, so others in similar situation could do what you did.
– VMAtm
Jul 6 '17 at 17:27
add a comment |
6
Are you sure the hostel did not register your stay? Hotels, hostels and other businesses that provide accommodation are legally obliged to register your stay. If they don't, I believe they are the ones that get punished, not you.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 18:46
1
How do I know if they did? Shouldn't I have some proof of it? They never actually asked me for my passport, so that's why I'm assuming they didn't register my stay.
– Guillaume Brunerie
Jul 2 '17 at 19:15
6
They didn't ask for your passport on arrival? That's a bit unusual, Russia is very much a "papers, please" country. I believe the registration requires a copy of your passport, so then it's possible they did not register. Asking them directly might be reasonable in any case.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 19:26
1
You should contact your host with this question. It's high probability that you're safe, as your visa is correct, and you're leaving the country in time. Most harmful output for you is some marks in your history, which may lead to problems with obtaining the visa in future.
– VMAtm
Jul 2 '17 at 23:57
4
Did you resolve your issue? You probably should answer your own question, so others in similar situation could do what you did.
– VMAtm
Jul 6 '17 at 17:27
6
6
Are you sure the hostel did not register your stay? Hotels, hostels and other businesses that provide accommodation are legally obliged to register your stay. If they don't, I believe they are the ones that get punished, not you.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 18:46
Are you sure the hostel did not register your stay? Hotels, hostels and other businesses that provide accommodation are legally obliged to register your stay. If they don't, I believe they are the ones that get punished, not you.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 18:46
1
1
How do I know if they did? Shouldn't I have some proof of it? They never actually asked me for my passport, so that's why I'm assuming they didn't register my stay.
– Guillaume Brunerie
Jul 2 '17 at 19:15
How do I know if they did? Shouldn't I have some proof of it? They never actually asked me for my passport, so that's why I'm assuming they didn't register my stay.
– Guillaume Brunerie
Jul 2 '17 at 19:15
6
6
They didn't ask for your passport on arrival? That's a bit unusual, Russia is very much a "papers, please" country. I believe the registration requires a copy of your passport, so then it's possible they did not register. Asking them directly might be reasonable in any case.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 19:26
They didn't ask for your passport on arrival? That's a bit unusual, Russia is very much a "papers, please" country. I believe the registration requires a copy of your passport, so then it's possible they did not register. Asking them directly might be reasonable in any case.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 19:26
1
1
You should contact your host with this question. It's high probability that you're safe, as your visa is correct, and you're leaving the country in time. Most harmful output for you is some marks in your history, which may lead to problems with obtaining the visa in future.
– VMAtm
Jul 2 '17 at 23:57
You should contact your host with this question. It's high probability that you're safe, as your visa is correct, and you're leaving the country in time. Most harmful output for you is some marks in your history, which may lead to problems with obtaining the visa in future.
– VMAtm
Jul 2 '17 at 23:57
4
4
Did you resolve your issue? You probably should answer your own question, so others in similar situation could do what you did.
– VMAtm
Jul 6 '17 at 17:27
Did you resolve your issue? You probably should answer your own question, so others in similar situation could do what you did.
– VMAtm
Jul 6 '17 at 17:27
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
As OP has not returned to TSE, here are the requirements and the implications for failure to register:
Russia Visa Registration and Migration Cards
According to Russian law, each foreigner entering the territory of the Russian Federation should register his or her visa within 72 hours upon arrival, except for weekends and official state holidays. Failure to register a visa may lead to detention by the Russian police, fines and other inconveniences. To register the visa, one needs a migration card [see sample].
The migration card should be filled out by every foreigner entering Russia. It consists of two sections [see sample]. The top part of the card is collected by the passport/visa control officials, while the bottom part is collected when the person leaves the country to return home. Migration cards serve as a statistical tool and a record of entry, exit, and registration. The card is also necessary to register at hotels.
Migration cards are available at all ports of entry from Russian immigration officials (Border Guards). Every time one enters Russia, he or she needs a new card. Please remember that you can not stay longer on the territory of the Russian Federation than it is stated in the migration card, so be careful filling your migration card out.
To register your Russian visa, you need to present your migration card. Visitors who have not put a registration mark in the migration card will be considered illegal. The only type of visa that is not supposed to be registered is transit visa. Also note that if you are going to stay in Russia for less than 3 days there is no need to register your visa.
If you are staying at a hotel, it will register your visa for you. All you need to do is presenting your Russian visa, passport, and migration card to the hotel administrator. A small registration fee can be imposed, and it usually takes a few minutes to have your visa registered. Those visitors who stay with their friends or relatives or rent an apartment should register their visa through a company that issued an invitation or through a local Passport and Visa Service (UVIR).
Proof of visa registration is a rectangular stamp in the migration card indicating period of validity, date of registration, registration number, name of registering authority and signature of executing officer.
A failure to register Russian visa is likely to result in problems leaving Russia and when trying to reenter Russia in the future. Due to the possibility of random document checks by Russian police, the foreigners should carry their original passports, registered migration cards and visas with them at all times. Failure to provide proper documentation can result in detention or heavy fines. Lost or stolen migration cards cannot be replaced. In this unfortunate case, one should report the loss to regional bodies of domestic affairs domiciliary within 3 days.
Foreign visitors not submitting migration cards during their last stay in the Russian Federation will be restricted to reentering the country.
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
(sorry for the delay, I'm still traveling and I don't have much access to the Internet)
I didn't ask the hostel, but as they never saw my visa or my migration card, I guess that means they didn't register my visa.
But in any case, there was no problem at all when leaving Russia (by train to Finland), despite a very lengthy check by the Russian immigration officers (the check was very lengthy for everyone, not just for me). They didn't mention registration at all.
Hopefully it won't prevent me to go back to Russia another time, but I haven't tried yet.
add a comment |
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
As OP has not returned to TSE, here are the requirements and the implications for failure to register:
Russia Visa Registration and Migration Cards
According to Russian law, each foreigner entering the territory of the Russian Federation should register his or her visa within 72 hours upon arrival, except for weekends and official state holidays. Failure to register a visa may lead to detention by the Russian police, fines and other inconveniences. To register the visa, one needs a migration card [see sample].
The migration card should be filled out by every foreigner entering Russia. It consists of two sections [see sample]. The top part of the card is collected by the passport/visa control officials, while the bottom part is collected when the person leaves the country to return home. Migration cards serve as a statistical tool and a record of entry, exit, and registration. The card is also necessary to register at hotels.
Migration cards are available at all ports of entry from Russian immigration officials (Border Guards). Every time one enters Russia, he or she needs a new card. Please remember that you can not stay longer on the territory of the Russian Federation than it is stated in the migration card, so be careful filling your migration card out.
To register your Russian visa, you need to present your migration card. Visitors who have not put a registration mark in the migration card will be considered illegal. The only type of visa that is not supposed to be registered is transit visa. Also note that if you are going to stay in Russia for less than 3 days there is no need to register your visa.
If you are staying at a hotel, it will register your visa for you. All you need to do is presenting your Russian visa, passport, and migration card to the hotel administrator. A small registration fee can be imposed, and it usually takes a few minutes to have your visa registered. Those visitors who stay with their friends or relatives or rent an apartment should register their visa through a company that issued an invitation or through a local Passport and Visa Service (UVIR).
Proof of visa registration is a rectangular stamp in the migration card indicating period of validity, date of registration, registration number, name of registering authority and signature of executing officer.
A failure to register Russian visa is likely to result in problems leaving Russia and when trying to reenter Russia in the future. Due to the possibility of random document checks by Russian police, the foreigners should carry their original passports, registered migration cards and visas with them at all times. Failure to provide proper documentation can result in detention or heavy fines. Lost or stolen migration cards cannot be replaced. In this unfortunate case, one should report the loss to regional bodies of domestic affairs domiciliary within 3 days.
Foreign visitors not submitting migration cards during their last stay in the Russian Federation will be restricted to reentering the country.
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
As OP has not returned to TSE, here are the requirements and the implications for failure to register:
Russia Visa Registration and Migration Cards
According to Russian law, each foreigner entering the territory of the Russian Federation should register his or her visa within 72 hours upon arrival, except for weekends and official state holidays. Failure to register a visa may lead to detention by the Russian police, fines and other inconveniences. To register the visa, one needs a migration card [see sample].
The migration card should be filled out by every foreigner entering Russia. It consists of two sections [see sample]. The top part of the card is collected by the passport/visa control officials, while the bottom part is collected when the person leaves the country to return home. Migration cards serve as a statistical tool and a record of entry, exit, and registration. The card is also necessary to register at hotels.
Migration cards are available at all ports of entry from Russian immigration officials (Border Guards). Every time one enters Russia, he or she needs a new card. Please remember that you can not stay longer on the territory of the Russian Federation than it is stated in the migration card, so be careful filling your migration card out.
To register your Russian visa, you need to present your migration card. Visitors who have not put a registration mark in the migration card will be considered illegal. The only type of visa that is not supposed to be registered is transit visa. Also note that if you are going to stay in Russia for less than 3 days there is no need to register your visa.
If you are staying at a hotel, it will register your visa for you. All you need to do is presenting your Russian visa, passport, and migration card to the hotel administrator. A small registration fee can be imposed, and it usually takes a few minutes to have your visa registered. Those visitors who stay with their friends or relatives or rent an apartment should register their visa through a company that issued an invitation or through a local Passport and Visa Service (UVIR).
Proof of visa registration is a rectangular stamp in the migration card indicating period of validity, date of registration, registration number, name of registering authority and signature of executing officer.
A failure to register Russian visa is likely to result in problems leaving Russia and when trying to reenter Russia in the future. Due to the possibility of random document checks by Russian police, the foreigners should carry their original passports, registered migration cards and visas with them at all times. Failure to provide proper documentation can result in detention or heavy fines. Lost or stolen migration cards cannot be replaced. In this unfortunate case, one should report the loss to regional bodies of domestic affairs domiciliary within 3 days.
Foreign visitors not submitting migration cards during their last stay in the Russian Federation will be restricted to reentering the country.
add a comment |
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
As OP has not returned to TSE, here are the requirements and the implications for failure to register:
Russia Visa Registration and Migration Cards
According to Russian law, each foreigner entering the territory of the Russian Federation should register his or her visa within 72 hours upon arrival, except for weekends and official state holidays. Failure to register a visa may lead to detention by the Russian police, fines and other inconveniences. To register the visa, one needs a migration card [see sample].
The migration card should be filled out by every foreigner entering Russia. It consists of two sections [see sample]. The top part of the card is collected by the passport/visa control officials, while the bottom part is collected when the person leaves the country to return home. Migration cards serve as a statistical tool and a record of entry, exit, and registration. The card is also necessary to register at hotels.
Migration cards are available at all ports of entry from Russian immigration officials (Border Guards). Every time one enters Russia, he or she needs a new card. Please remember that you can not stay longer on the territory of the Russian Federation than it is stated in the migration card, so be careful filling your migration card out.
To register your Russian visa, you need to present your migration card. Visitors who have not put a registration mark in the migration card will be considered illegal. The only type of visa that is not supposed to be registered is transit visa. Also note that if you are going to stay in Russia for less than 3 days there is no need to register your visa.
If you are staying at a hotel, it will register your visa for you. All you need to do is presenting your Russian visa, passport, and migration card to the hotel administrator. A small registration fee can be imposed, and it usually takes a few minutes to have your visa registered. Those visitors who stay with their friends or relatives or rent an apartment should register their visa through a company that issued an invitation or through a local Passport and Visa Service (UVIR).
Proof of visa registration is a rectangular stamp in the migration card indicating period of validity, date of registration, registration number, name of registering authority and signature of executing officer.
A failure to register Russian visa is likely to result in problems leaving Russia and when trying to reenter Russia in the future. Due to the possibility of random document checks by Russian police, the foreigners should carry their original passports, registered migration cards and visas with them at all times. Failure to provide proper documentation can result in detention or heavy fines. Lost or stolen migration cards cannot be replaced. In this unfortunate case, one should report the loss to regional bodies of domestic affairs domiciliary within 3 days.
Foreign visitors not submitting migration cards during their last stay in the Russian Federation will be restricted to reentering the country.
As OP has not returned to TSE, here are the requirements and the implications for failure to register:
Russia Visa Registration and Migration Cards
According to Russian law, each foreigner entering the territory of the Russian Federation should register his or her visa within 72 hours upon arrival, except for weekends and official state holidays. Failure to register a visa may lead to detention by the Russian police, fines and other inconveniences. To register the visa, one needs a migration card [see sample].
The migration card should be filled out by every foreigner entering Russia. It consists of two sections [see sample]. The top part of the card is collected by the passport/visa control officials, while the bottom part is collected when the person leaves the country to return home. Migration cards serve as a statistical tool and a record of entry, exit, and registration. The card is also necessary to register at hotels.
Migration cards are available at all ports of entry from Russian immigration officials (Border Guards). Every time one enters Russia, he or she needs a new card. Please remember that you can not stay longer on the territory of the Russian Federation than it is stated in the migration card, so be careful filling your migration card out.
To register your Russian visa, you need to present your migration card. Visitors who have not put a registration mark in the migration card will be considered illegal. The only type of visa that is not supposed to be registered is transit visa. Also note that if you are going to stay in Russia for less than 3 days there is no need to register your visa.
If you are staying at a hotel, it will register your visa for you. All you need to do is presenting your Russian visa, passport, and migration card to the hotel administrator. A small registration fee can be imposed, and it usually takes a few minutes to have your visa registered. Those visitors who stay with their friends or relatives or rent an apartment should register their visa through a company that issued an invitation or through a local Passport and Visa Service (UVIR).
Proof of visa registration is a rectangular stamp in the migration card indicating period of validity, date of registration, registration number, name of registering authority and signature of executing officer.
A failure to register Russian visa is likely to result in problems leaving Russia and when trying to reenter Russia in the future. Due to the possibility of random document checks by Russian police, the foreigners should carry their original passports, registered migration cards and visas with them at all times. Failure to provide proper documentation can result in detention or heavy fines. Lost or stolen migration cards cannot be replaced. In this unfortunate case, one should report the loss to regional bodies of domestic affairs domiciliary within 3 days.
Foreign visitors not submitting migration cards during their last stay in the Russian Federation will be restricted to reentering the country.
answered Jul 29 '17 at 20:34
Giorgio
30.4k962173
30.4k962173
add a comment |
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
(sorry for the delay, I'm still traveling and I don't have much access to the Internet)
I didn't ask the hostel, but as they never saw my visa or my migration card, I guess that means they didn't register my visa.
But in any case, there was no problem at all when leaving Russia (by train to Finland), despite a very lengthy check by the Russian immigration officers (the check was very lengthy for everyone, not just for me). They didn't mention registration at all.
Hopefully it won't prevent me to go back to Russia another time, but I haven't tried yet.
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
(sorry for the delay, I'm still traveling and I don't have much access to the Internet)
I didn't ask the hostel, but as they never saw my visa or my migration card, I guess that means they didn't register my visa.
But in any case, there was no problem at all when leaving Russia (by train to Finland), despite a very lengthy check by the Russian immigration officers (the check was very lengthy for everyone, not just for me). They didn't mention registration at all.
Hopefully it won't prevent me to go back to Russia another time, but I haven't tried yet.
add a comment |
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
(sorry for the delay, I'm still traveling and I don't have much access to the Internet)
I didn't ask the hostel, but as they never saw my visa or my migration card, I guess that means they didn't register my visa.
But in any case, there was no problem at all when leaving Russia (by train to Finland), despite a very lengthy check by the Russian immigration officers (the check was very lengthy for everyone, not just for me). They didn't mention registration at all.
Hopefully it won't prevent me to go back to Russia another time, but I haven't tried yet.
(sorry for the delay, I'm still traveling and I don't have much access to the Internet)
I didn't ask the hostel, but as they never saw my visa or my migration card, I guess that means they didn't register my visa.
But in any case, there was no problem at all when leaving Russia (by train to Finland), despite a very lengthy check by the Russian immigration officers (the check was very lengthy for everyone, not just for me). They didn't mention registration at all.
Hopefully it won't prevent me to go back to Russia another time, but I haven't tried yet.
answered Jul 31 '17 at 9:52
Guillaume Brunerie
966
966
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Travel Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.
Please pay close attention to the following guidance:
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2ftravel.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f96310%2fi-did-not-register-my-russian-visa-what-should-i-do%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
6
Are you sure the hostel did not register your stay? Hotels, hostels and other businesses that provide accommodation are legally obliged to register your stay. If they don't, I believe they are the ones that get punished, not you.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 18:46
1
How do I know if they did? Shouldn't I have some proof of it? They never actually asked me for my passport, so that's why I'm assuming they didn't register my stay.
– Guillaume Brunerie
Jul 2 '17 at 19:15
6
They didn't ask for your passport on arrival? That's a bit unusual, Russia is very much a "papers, please" country. I believe the registration requires a copy of your passport, so then it's possible they did not register. Asking them directly might be reasonable in any case.
– DUman
Jul 2 '17 at 19:26
1
You should contact your host with this question. It's high probability that you're safe, as your visa is correct, and you're leaving the country in time. Most harmful output for you is some marks in your history, which may lead to problems with obtaining the visa in future.
– VMAtm
Jul 2 '17 at 23:57
4
Did you resolve your issue? You probably should answer your own question, so others in similar situation could do what you did.
– VMAtm
Jul 6 '17 at 17:27