Entering U.S. exactly on the day of visa “expiration date”



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I'm a bit surprised from my US Visa. I plan to go to a conference on 3rd of April. Amazingly though, the visa expiration date is written as April 3rd.
So what does that mean. Can I enter the US on April 3rd? or should I enter one day earlier?







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    I'm a bit surprised from my US Visa. I plan to go to a conference on 3rd of April. Amazingly though, the visa expiration date is written as April 3rd.
    So what does that mean. Can I enter the US on April 3rd? or should I enter one day earlier?







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      I'm a bit surprised from my US Visa. I plan to go to a conference on 3rd of April. Amazingly though, the visa expiration date is written as April 3rd.
      So what does that mean. Can I enter the US on April 3rd? or should I enter one day earlier?







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      I'm a bit surprised from my US Visa. I plan to go to a conference on 3rd of April. Amazingly though, the visa expiration date is written as April 3rd.
      So what does that mean. Can I enter the US on April 3rd? or should I enter one day earlier?









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          (As I just learned) A US Visa does not actually give you permission to enter the US, it just gives you permission to travel to a US Port of Entry and request permission to enter the US which can then be granted or denied by the immigration officer there. (Details)



          The wording of that webpage implies that you can, indeed, travel to a port of entry on the expiration date, April 3rd. Of course if your flight is a little bit delayed and you arrive on April 4th all bets are off!




          Edit not from OP: From travel.state.gov:



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          Although there is definitely ambiguity between 00:00 hours and 24:00 hours (ie start of first minute or end of last minute of the day) and I consider up to Tuesday to mean precisely on Monday or before visa authorities normally "play safe" (because of such ambiguity) and start and end dates are inclusive. In the insurance sector better consideration is given to this, for example 1/1/16 - 2/2/16 might have "bdi" appended, ie including both Jan 1 and Feb 2.






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            You just learned that? Sends to me like you haven't been spending enough time on TSE. :)
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          • LOL @JoelSpolsky
            – Burhan Khalid
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          • @Joel Yeah, but when something of the kind was attempted the Area 51 proposal was squashed within minutes (or so).
            – pnuts
            Aug 13 '16 at 21:18










          • @JoelSpolsky Since any opinions on travel are met with the wrath of Olympus, uninteresting technical minutia with quotes from dry bureaucratic handbooks is about what's left.
            – Johns-305
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          Yes, the visa expiration date is the last day you can use that visa to apply to enter.






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            As of early 2018, the travel.state.gov website has been updated with a new URL and new wording about this, although the rules appear to be the same. It now says:




            The visa expiration date is shown on the visa along with the visa issuance date. The time between visa issuance and expiration date is called your visa validity. The visa validity is the length of time you are permitted to travel to a port-of-entry in the United States.







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              (As I just learned) A US Visa does not actually give you permission to enter the US, it just gives you permission to travel to a US Port of Entry and request permission to enter the US which can then be granted or denied by the immigration officer there. (Details)



              The wording of that webpage implies that you can, indeed, travel to a port of entry on the expiration date, April 3rd. Of course if your flight is a little bit delayed and you arrive on April 4th all bets are off!




              Edit not from OP: From travel.state.gov:



              TSE43657 example



              Comment not from OP



              Although there is definitely ambiguity between 00:00 hours and 24:00 hours (ie start of first minute or end of last minute of the day) and I consider up to Tuesday to mean precisely on Monday or before visa authorities normally "play safe" (because of such ambiguity) and start and end dates are inclusive. In the insurance sector better consideration is given to this, for example 1/1/16 - 2/2/16 might have "bdi" appended, ie including both Jan 1 and Feb 2.






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                You just learned that? Sends to me like you haven't been spending enough time on TSE. :)
                – JoErNanO♦
                Feb 21 '15 at 19:10






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                time to rename this site "visas.stackexchange.com"
                – Joel Spolsky♦
                Feb 21 '15 at 19:28










              • LOL @JoelSpolsky
                – Burhan Khalid
                Aug 13 '16 at 21:10










              • @Joel Yeah, but when something of the kind was attempted the Area 51 proposal was squashed within minutes (or so).
                – pnuts
                Aug 13 '16 at 21:18










              • @JoelSpolsky Since any opinions on travel are met with the wrath of Olympus, uninteresting technical minutia with quotes from dry bureaucratic handbooks is about what's left.
                – Johns-305
                Apr 9 at 19:25














              up vote
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              (As I just learned) A US Visa does not actually give you permission to enter the US, it just gives you permission to travel to a US Port of Entry and request permission to enter the US which can then be granted or denied by the immigration officer there. (Details)



              The wording of that webpage implies that you can, indeed, travel to a port of entry on the expiration date, April 3rd. Of course if your flight is a little bit delayed and you arrive on April 4th all bets are off!




              Edit not from OP: From travel.state.gov:



              TSE43657 example



              Comment not from OP



              Although there is definitely ambiguity between 00:00 hours and 24:00 hours (ie start of first minute or end of last minute of the day) and I consider up to Tuesday to mean precisely on Monday or before visa authorities normally "play safe" (because of such ambiguity) and start and end dates are inclusive. In the insurance sector better consideration is given to this, for example 1/1/16 - 2/2/16 might have "bdi" appended, ie including both Jan 1 and Feb 2.






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              • 5




                You just learned that? Sends to me like you haven't been spending enough time on TSE. :)
                – JoErNanO♦
                Feb 21 '15 at 19:10






              • 13




                time to rename this site "visas.stackexchange.com"
                – Joel Spolsky♦
                Feb 21 '15 at 19:28










              • LOL @JoelSpolsky
                – Burhan Khalid
                Aug 13 '16 at 21:10










              • @Joel Yeah, but when something of the kind was attempted the Area 51 proposal was squashed within minutes (or so).
                – pnuts
                Aug 13 '16 at 21:18










              • @JoelSpolsky Since any opinions on travel are met with the wrath of Olympus, uninteresting technical minutia with quotes from dry bureaucratic handbooks is about what's left.
                – Johns-305
                Apr 9 at 19:25












              up vote
              10
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              up vote
              10
              down vote









              (As I just learned) A US Visa does not actually give you permission to enter the US, it just gives you permission to travel to a US Port of Entry and request permission to enter the US which can then be granted or denied by the immigration officer there. (Details)



              The wording of that webpage implies that you can, indeed, travel to a port of entry on the expiration date, April 3rd. Of course if your flight is a little bit delayed and you arrive on April 4th all bets are off!




              Edit not from OP: From travel.state.gov:



              TSE43657 example



              Comment not from OP



              Although there is definitely ambiguity between 00:00 hours and 24:00 hours (ie start of first minute or end of last minute of the day) and I consider up to Tuesday to mean precisely on Monday or before visa authorities normally "play safe" (because of such ambiguity) and start and end dates are inclusive. In the insurance sector better consideration is given to this, for example 1/1/16 - 2/2/16 might have "bdi" appended, ie including both Jan 1 and Feb 2.






              share|improve this answer














              (As I just learned) A US Visa does not actually give you permission to enter the US, it just gives you permission to travel to a US Port of Entry and request permission to enter the US which can then be granted or denied by the immigration officer there. (Details)



              The wording of that webpage implies that you can, indeed, travel to a port of entry on the expiration date, April 3rd. Of course if your flight is a little bit delayed and you arrive on April 4th all bets are off!




              Edit not from OP: From travel.state.gov:



              TSE43657 example



              Comment not from OP



              Although there is definitely ambiguity between 00:00 hours and 24:00 hours (ie start of first minute or end of last minute of the day) and I consider up to Tuesday to mean precisely on Monday or before visa authorities normally "play safe" (because of such ambiguity) and start and end dates are inclusive. In the insurance sector better consideration is given to this, for example 1/1/16 - 2/2/16 might have "bdi" appended, ie including both Jan 1 and Feb 2.







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              answered Feb 21 '15 at 19:06









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              • 5




                You just learned that? Sends to me like you haven't been spending enough time on TSE. :)
                – JoErNanO♦
                Feb 21 '15 at 19:10






              • 13




                time to rename this site "visas.stackexchange.com"
                – Joel Spolsky♦
                Feb 21 '15 at 19:28










              • LOL @JoelSpolsky
                – Burhan Khalid
                Aug 13 '16 at 21:10










              • @Joel Yeah, but when something of the kind was attempted the Area 51 proposal was squashed within minutes (or so).
                – pnuts
                Aug 13 '16 at 21:18










              • @JoelSpolsky Since any opinions on travel are met with the wrath of Olympus, uninteresting technical minutia with quotes from dry bureaucratic handbooks is about what's left.
                – Johns-305
                Apr 9 at 19:25












              • 5




                You just learned that? Sends to me like you haven't been spending enough time on TSE. :)
                – JoErNanO♦
                Feb 21 '15 at 19:10






              • 13




                time to rename this site "visas.stackexchange.com"
                – Joel Spolsky♦
                Feb 21 '15 at 19:28










              • LOL @JoelSpolsky
                – Burhan Khalid
                Aug 13 '16 at 21:10










              • @Joel Yeah, but when something of the kind was attempted the Area 51 proposal was squashed within minutes (or so).
                – pnuts
                Aug 13 '16 at 21:18










              • @JoelSpolsky Since any opinions on travel are met with the wrath of Olympus, uninteresting technical minutia with quotes from dry bureaucratic handbooks is about what's left.
                – Johns-305
                Apr 9 at 19:25







              5




              5




              You just learned that? Sends to me like you haven't been spending enough time on TSE. :)
              – JoErNanO♦
              Feb 21 '15 at 19:10




              You just learned that? Sends to me like you haven't been spending enough time on TSE. :)
              – JoErNanO♦
              Feb 21 '15 at 19:10




              13




              13




              time to rename this site "visas.stackexchange.com"
              – Joel Spolsky♦
              Feb 21 '15 at 19:28




              time to rename this site "visas.stackexchange.com"
              – Joel Spolsky♦
              Feb 21 '15 at 19:28












              LOL @JoelSpolsky
              – Burhan Khalid
              Aug 13 '16 at 21:10




              LOL @JoelSpolsky
              – Burhan Khalid
              Aug 13 '16 at 21:10












              @Joel Yeah, but when something of the kind was attempted the Area 51 proposal was squashed within minutes (or so).
              – pnuts
              Aug 13 '16 at 21:18




              @Joel Yeah, but when something of the kind was attempted the Area 51 proposal was squashed within minutes (or so).
              – pnuts
              Aug 13 '16 at 21:18












              @JoelSpolsky Since any opinions on travel are met with the wrath of Olympus, uninteresting technical minutia with quotes from dry bureaucratic handbooks is about what's left.
              – Johns-305
              Apr 9 at 19:25




              @JoelSpolsky Since any opinions on travel are met with the wrath of Olympus, uninteresting technical minutia with quotes from dry bureaucratic handbooks is about what's left.
              – Johns-305
              Apr 9 at 19:25












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              Yes, the visa expiration date is the last day you can use that visa to apply to enter.






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                  Yes, the visa expiration date is the last day you can use that visa to apply to enter.






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                      As of early 2018, the travel.state.gov website has been updated with a new URL and new wording about this, although the rules appear to be the same. It now says:




                      The visa expiration date is shown on the visa along with the visa issuance date. The time between visa issuance and expiration date is called your visa validity. The visa validity is the length of time you are permitted to travel to a port-of-entry in the United States.







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                        As of early 2018, the travel.state.gov website has been updated with a new URL and new wording about this, although the rules appear to be the same. It now says:




                        The visa expiration date is shown on the visa along with the visa issuance date. The time between visa issuance and expiration date is called your visa validity. The visa validity is the length of time you are permitted to travel to a port-of-entry in the United States.







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                          As of early 2018, the travel.state.gov website has been updated with a new URL and new wording about this, although the rules appear to be the same. It now says:




                          The visa expiration date is shown on the visa along with the visa issuance date. The time between visa issuance and expiration date is called your visa validity. The visa validity is the length of time you are permitted to travel to a port-of-entry in the United States.







                          share|improve this answer












                          As of early 2018, the travel.state.gov website has been updated with a new URL and new wording about this, although the rules appear to be the same. It now says:




                          The visa expiration date is shown on the visa along with the visa issuance date. The time between visa issuance and expiration date is called your visa validity. The visa validity is the length of time you are permitted to travel to a port-of-entry in the United States.








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